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I don't think I could ever be convinced disfo is mafia. Maybe but very very unlikely.
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You're really transparent lol.
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Only thing I'm interested in today is Artanis' responses really.
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On May 25 2019 21:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 21:04 Holyflare wrote:On May 25 2019 21:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also no clue why HF thinks disfo is the expert on me when he, VE, Rayn, and Koshi played a lot more games with me. I don't care about meta, disfo is one of the only people in the game that has made a comment about reading your filter or remembering your posts. Irrelevant anyway. Tell me your scum reads now and why! iGrok for lots of filler posts and lack of evolving reads Calix is jumping up reading the interactions at the end of D1 right now with how she sort of scumread BC but never actually ended up digging into that further and Rayn wasn't really an option for a lynch. It looks to me like she didn't really care to definitively solidify her BC read after this post: Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 06:40 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 06:37 disformation wrote:wait. On May 22 2019 02:25 iGrok wrote:
Oh, I left out you also started to go after calix when the momentum was starting on her, but then ruxxar called you mafia and you switched focus On May 22 2019 04:30 iGrok wrote:Lunch break. On May 22 2019 04:11 Koshi wrote:
Igrok thinks bc, Calix and hf are mafia. Looks good. I dont have a strong read on BC, I just think he's done some things that I don't like. I'm slightly biased towards liking him for a couple reasons. A) His posts are typically well formatted summaries, and I'm a sucker for those. B) As he said about me, we recognize each other's names so there is some subconcious level of bias towards each other. As in, all things considered, if I had two players exactly equally likely, I'd rather keep the player I'm more familiar with because it should be easier to read them later. HF, Calix, Rux, Arty, BC, loosely in that order. HF wants me to cite every action of his that I refer to and I'm simply not going to do that. The thread is too long and too dense. He's flipped aggro a bunch of times as I referred to previously, and almost always it was towards someone who was starting to get momentum towards them. On May 22 2019 06:29 iGrok wrote:
I'm actually getting invested in this game now. I should really be focusing on this seminar but like... I'm getting pulled back in.
I still think Calix is the best d1 lynch. so hf is a mean scummer going against ppl when momentum builds against them, such as calix, which makes calix the obvious lynch? Oh shit :o Meanwhile I went into BC's filter to check his whole 'I came up with the disfo/ ruxxar reads first' thing and sure, it's true he says 'ruxxar/ disfo are scum' early on but he doesn't actually explain WHY until a lot later. For example, he first included disfo as scum in #338 but gives no obvious indications as to why disfo is scum until #1248. Personally I don't think it counts if you just say 'X is mafia' without actually saying why cos nobody's gonna find that convincing. The read comes out in passing but then she doesn't really go into it any further. Third one could be any between disfo/WBG/BC. As BC mentioned, Disfo's just kinda been commenting on things without really coming up with his own things. WBG's not commenting on any of his own reads whilst still harping on on VE when he has no chance of getting him lynched today feels wrong, and despite the meta being wrong, BC still feels like he should have a good chance of being scum just based on how EOD1 went with multiple people scumreading him yet never landing a vote on him.
How can you read the deadline d1 and pick up calix for not reading any further but not conversion saying he'd look into calix/hf and then talking logic for an hour? Is it cos calix is the alternate scum read for everyone? :D
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Bugs if you had a rb and were mafia who would you be rbing?
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On May 25 2019 22:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 21:58 Holyflare wrote:On May 25 2019 21:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 25 2019 21:04 Holyflare wrote:On May 25 2019 21:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also no clue why HF thinks disfo is the expert on me when he, VE, Rayn, and Koshi played a lot more games with me. I don't care about meta, disfo is one of the only people in the game that has made a comment about reading your filter or remembering your posts. Irrelevant anyway. Tell me your scum reads now and why! iGrok for lots of filler posts and lack of evolving reads Calix is jumping up reading the interactions at the end of D1 right now with how she sort of scumread BC but never actually ended up digging into that further and Rayn wasn't really an option for a lynch. It looks to me like she didn't really care to definitively solidify her BC read after this post: On May 22 2019 06:40 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 06:37 disformation wrote:wait. On May 22 2019 02:25 iGrok wrote:
Oh, I left out you also started to go after calix when the momentum was starting on her, but then ruxxar called you mafia and you switched focus On May 22 2019 04:30 iGrok wrote:Lunch break. On May 22 2019 04:11 Koshi wrote:
Igrok thinks bc, Calix and hf are mafia. Looks good. I dont have a strong read on BC, I just think he's done some things that I don't like. I'm slightly biased towards liking him for a couple reasons. A) His posts are typically well formatted summaries, and I'm a sucker for those. B) As he said about me, we recognize each other's names so there is some subconcious level of bias towards each other. As in, all things considered, if I had two players exactly equally likely, I'd rather keep the player I'm more familiar with because it should be easier to read them later. HF, Calix, Rux, Arty, BC, loosely in that order. HF wants me to cite every action of his that I refer to and I'm simply not going to do that. The thread is too long and too dense. He's flipped aggro a bunch of times as I referred to previously, and almost always it was towards someone who was starting to get momentum towards them. On May 22 2019 06:29 iGrok wrote:
I'm actually getting invested in this game now. I should really be focusing on this seminar but like... I'm getting pulled back in.
I still think Calix is the best d1 lynch. so hf is a mean scummer going against ppl when momentum builds against them, such as calix, which makes calix the obvious lynch? Oh shit :o Meanwhile I went into BC's filter to check his whole 'I came up with the disfo/ ruxxar reads first' thing and sure, it's true he says 'ruxxar/ disfo are scum' early on but he doesn't actually explain WHY until a lot later. For example, he first included disfo as scum in #338 but gives no obvious indications as to why disfo is scum until #1248. Personally I don't think it counts if you just say 'X is mafia' without actually saying why cos nobody's gonna find that convincing. The read comes out in passing but then she doesn't really go into it any further. Third one could be any between disfo/WBG/BC. As BC mentioned, Disfo's just kinda been commenting on things without really coming up with his own things. WBG's not commenting on any of his own reads whilst still harping on on VE when he has no chance of getting him lynched today feels wrong, and despite the meta being wrong, BC still feels like he should have a good chance of being scum just based on how EOD1 went with multiple people scumreading him yet never landing a vote on him. How can you read the deadline d1 and pick up calix for not reading any further but not conversion saying he'd look into calix/hf and then talking logic for an hour? Is it cos calix is the alternate scum read for everyone? :D Cause I'm at page 97 and I haven't encountered him yet?
Then stop making summaries as if you've fully caught up yet then lol. Just read and make a summary of everything and what you think :/
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I feel like I'm in a different world and the only one actually trying to undermine my reads is bugs :D
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and bc kinda but he's not really forcing anything (or doing anything :D :D :D :D)
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On May 25 2019 22:37 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 22:34 Holyflare wrote:
I feel like I'm in a different world and the only one actually trying to undermine my reads is bugs :D read my last post on VE. I just slam dunked him
I'm going to have to disagree really, I don't agree with any of it.
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You and I have very different ideas of what mafia do if you think they vote for their town reads to blend in.
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On May 25 2019 22:40 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 22:39 Holyflare wrote:On May 25 2019 22:37 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 25 2019 22:34 Holyflare wrote:
I feel like I'm in a different world and the only one actually trying to undermine my reads is bugs :D read my last post on VE. I just slam dunked him I'm going to have to disagree really, I don't agree with any of it. why do you think VE calling disfo scum but ruxxar town and then not voting disfo, and then complaining when I push him on his disfo read (which he never explains) is not scummy?
Because it's not scummy in the slightest, you set up so many false equivalencies and bs around the ruxxar lynch that it was distracting. Furthermore, why the fuck would VE vote for his TOWN read and look god damn awful when you've specified that you're going to lynch people that vote for him if he's town or some crap and he has scum reads on other people. It's so dumb to do unless you think he was doing to save a buddy.
On May 22 2019 06:50 Grackaroni wrote:
Day One Vote Count
Calix (2): RuXxar, Raynpelikoneet, Koshi, Koshi, VisceraEyes, Raynpelikoneet, VisceraEyes , Artanis[Xp], Holyflare, iGrok
Raynpelikoneet (2): Holyflare, Wherebugsgo, Jockmcplop, Calix, Calix, Jockmcplop
iGrok (2): VisceraEyes , Holyflare, Holyflare, VisceraEyes
BloodyC0bbler(2): Artanis[Xp], Disformation
RuXxar (1): Wherebugsgo, BloodyC0bbler , Disformation, Wherebugsgo
Holyflare (1): Conversion , ruxxar
Koshi(1): Conversion
Artanis[Xp](1): BloodyC0bbler
VisceraEyes (0):BloodyC0bbler
Jockmcplop (0): Raynpelikoneet, VisceraEyes, Holyflare
Disformation (0): Conversion, Wherebugsgo
Wherebugsgo (0): Artanis[Xp] , VisceraEyes , Koshi
conversion(0): Jockmcplop, Calix
Not voting (1): iGrok
Calix is currently set to be lynched.
Please let us know if you notice any mistakes. The deadline is Wednesday, May 22 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
This was the vote before everyone switched. Calix/iGrok/BC essentially up for lynch.
On May 22 2019 06:53 Calix wrote:
##vote iGrok
On May 22 2019 08:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: ruXxar
On May 22 2019 08:43 disformation wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: ruXxar
On May 22 2019 08:46 Calix wrote:
##unvote
##vote ruxxar
On May 22 2019 08:54 Grackaroni wrote:
Day One Vote Count
RuXxar (4): Wherebugsgo, BloodyC0bbler , Disformation, Wherebugsgo, VisceraEyes, Disformation, Calix
Calix (2): RuXxar, Raynpelikoneet, Koshi, Koshi, VisceraEyes, Raynpelikoneet, VisceraEyes , Artanis[Xp], Holyflare, iGrok
BloodyC0bbler(1): Artanis[Xp], Disformation
iGrok (1): VisceraEyes , Holyflare, Holyflare, VisceraEyes, Calix
Raynpelikoneet (1): Holyflare, Wherebugsgo, Jockmcplop, Calix, Calix, Jockmcplop
Holyflare (1): Conversion , ruxxar
Koshi(1): Conversion
Artanis[Xp](1): BloodyC0bbler
VisceraEyes (0):BloodyC0bbler
Jockmcplop (0): Raynpelikoneet, VisceraEyes, Holyflare
Disformation (0): Conversion, Wherebugsgo
Wherebugsgo (0): Artanis[Xp] , VisceraEyes , Koshi
conversion(0): Jockmcplop, Calix
Not voting (1): iGrok
RuXxar is currently set to be lynched.
Please let us know if you notice any mistakes. The deadline is Wednesday, May 22 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
It only makes sense for VE to look fucking awful and not vote his scum read and instead vote his town read WITH YOU if he's defending his teammate calix/bc/igrok but you don't scum read ANY OF THEM AT ALL. So, no, it doesn't make sense with the narrative you're posting for mafia to go out of their way to look fucking awful voting their town read and to get pushed when they can just vote on their scum reads. It's really bad to push this imo.
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Like, I really just don't know if bugs is obviously showing face as mafia and became really bad or just town doing some really stupid bait. After his nk in that game rayn was talking about that saved town I'm really starting to see a picture where he just doesn't "get" people's metas yet and is trying to make a mafia play that seems obvious to him but looks really out of place to me or anyone that knows these people.
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On May 25 2019 22:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
And then on page 158 Rayn quotes a bunch of posts on what he's been doing, including a good point on Conversion. Cool.
How did you read 58 pages from Conversion's post before d1 to rayn's post on page 158 in like 5 minutes?
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On May 25 2019 22:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 21:58 Holyflare wrote:On May 25 2019 21:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 25 2019 21:04 Holyflare wrote:On May 25 2019 21:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also no clue why HF thinks disfo is the expert on me when he, VE, Rayn, and Koshi played a lot more games with me. I don't care about meta, disfo is one of the only people in the game that has made a comment about reading your filter or remembering your posts. Irrelevant anyway. Tell me your scum reads now and why! iGrok for lots of filler posts and lack of evolving reads Calix is jumping up reading the interactions at the end of D1 right now with how she sort of scumread BC but never actually ended up digging into that further and Rayn wasn't really an option for a lynch. It looks to me like she didn't really care to definitively solidify her BC read after this post: On May 22 2019 06:40 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 06:37 disformation wrote:wait. On May 22 2019 02:25 iGrok wrote:
Oh, I left out you also started to go after calix when the momentum was starting on her, but then ruxxar called you mafia and you switched focus On May 22 2019 04:30 iGrok wrote:Lunch break. On May 22 2019 04:11 Koshi wrote:
Igrok thinks bc, Calix and hf are mafia. Looks good. I dont have a strong read on BC, I just think he's done some things that I don't like. I'm slightly biased towards liking him for a couple reasons. A) His posts are typically well formatted summaries, and I'm a sucker for those. B) As he said about me, we recognize each other's names so there is some subconcious level of bias towards each other. As in, all things considered, if I had two players exactly equally likely, I'd rather keep the player I'm more familiar with because it should be easier to read them later. HF, Calix, Rux, Arty, BC, loosely in that order. HF wants me to cite every action of his that I refer to and I'm simply not going to do that. The thread is too long and too dense. He's flipped aggro a bunch of times as I referred to previously, and almost always it was towards someone who was starting to get momentum towards them. On May 22 2019 06:29 iGrok wrote:
I'm actually getting invested in this game now. I should really be focusing on this seminar but like... I'm getting pulled back in.
I still think Calix is the best d1 lynch. so hf is a mean scummer going against ppl when momentum builds against them, such as calix, which makes calix the obvious lynch? Oh shit :o Meanwhile I went into BC's filter to check his whole 'I came up with the disfo/ ruxxar reads first' thing and sure, it's true he says 'ruxxar/ disfo are scum' early on but he doesn't actually explain WHY until a lot later. For example, he first included disfo as scum in #338 but gives no obvious indications as to why disfo is scum until #1248. Personally I don't think it counts if you just say 'X is mafia' without actually saying why cos nobody's gonna find that convincing. The read comes out in passing but then she doesn't really go into it any further. Third one could be any between disfo/WBG/BC. As BC mentioned, Disfo's just kinda been commenting on things without really coming up with his own things. WBG's not commenting on any of his own reads whilst still harping on on VE when he has no chance of getting him lynched today feels wrong, and despite the meta being wrong, BC still feels like he should have a good chance of being scum just based on how EOD1 went with multiple people scumreading him yet never landing a vote on him. How can you read the deadline d1 and pick up calix for not reading any further but not conversion saying he'd look into calix/hf and then talking logic for an hour? Is it cos calix is the alternate scum read for everyone? :D Cause I'm at page 97 and I haven't encountered him yet?
On May 25 2019 22:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 11:24 Conversion wrote:
d'oh.
I just meta-dived ruxxar and he plays really fluid, jokes around a lot as town.
his mafia games are like 4+ years old, though, and not sure if they should really count as much here (couldn't find any more recent games)
but you're right in the fact that nothing about his game here resembles the town games I read meta wise.
in terms of reads, my brain is fried (as evidenced by fucking up a simple logic table up ^^^ there), and I think I'm inclined to believe bugs.. I think disfo is in a pretty non-safe spot going on this ruxxar lynch here as well, so ruxxar flipping mafia doesn't give him too much cred. I don't really buy any of Koshi's reads, and him dodging me and not calling me scum is pretty fuckin' weird cause I'm not really playing any differently than I have in the games we've played together. m
If ruxxar flips mafia though Koshi is never, ever, 100% never ever mafia.
and now I'm sleepy and lost 90 minutes of s tudying for an interview so I'm peacing out. gl hf, see y'all after like 4 PM est for a bit before I fly out Good thing you're fine with the now unavoidable lynch 30 min before deadline.
page 97 22:02 tl time
page 102 22:37 tl time
35 minutes to read 5 pages + make some posts in thread
On May 25 2019 22:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
And then on page 158 Rayn quotes a bunch of posts on what he's been doing, including a good point on Conversion. Cool.
22:50 page 158
13 minutes to read 56 pages after that + make posts in thread?
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Oh, so you haven't got to my case on igrok then? That's like 160+ or something.
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Damn you didn't fall for the bait. WP.
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iGrok's supposed to have a free weekend this week isn't he? At least that's what he's said.
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I'm about 40% certain iGrok is scum and that's because of the amount of pointless defence he's gotten. But I won't tell you that because in my other thread mind he's 100% scum.
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On May 25 2019 23:07 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 23:06 Holyflare wrote:
I'm about 40% certain iGrok is scum and that's because of the amount of pointless defence he's gotten. But I won't tell you that because in my other thread mind he's 100% scum. Is the first one willing to consider not iGrok or were you just trolling people?
I mean if he literally just interacted with me and answered my questions I wouldn't be voting him at all even after my case so that's a really fucking net negative play if he's mafia or town.
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On May 25 2019 23:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 22:52 Holyflare wrote:
Like, I really just don't know if bugs is obviously showing face as mafia and became really bad or just town doing some really stupid bait. After his nk in that game rayn was talking about that saved town I'm really starting to see a picture where he just doesn't "get" people's metas yet and is trying to make a mafia play that seems obvious to him but looks really out of place to me or anyone that knows these people. Unfortunately that doesn't make him mafia. I thought basically the same thing last game, but especially the comment after game where he said never listen to rayn when i voted for mafia D1 and died on N1 and he managed to land his vote on zero mafia in four days, idk i realised he actually believes in his narratives. Idk what's the point of even interacting a player like that, like earlier you asked me about my claim, the "weird" wording on Conversion's question, i explained it, bugs has just completely skipped over it and is still saying i am fakeclaiming. Again, what's the point in interacting a player like that? I am not even reading his posts anymore.
You gotta learn to let go my man. Last game isn't real anymore, just history. Be free rayn, be free.
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