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On May 26 2019 15:54 Jockmcplop wrote:
Right I'm all in.
Probably not going to be in the thread much today, but I say that every day and then I'm here anyway. Make them see, Bugs.
If hf isn't scum he's the mislynch king.
But he is scum.
yeah whichever two of me, rayn, and koshi are alive will lead town and vote together. Like we are guaranteed to vote as a block. And I think if HF is alive he becomes the lynch because all 3 of us agree he is scum.
I think if we lynch in this order:
HF/BC/Calix/Artanis
We win the game. Like, disformation, conversion, etc. are not listed by enough players for them to be scum here, it just doesn't make sense, and their reads are perfectly fine and I townread them otherwise.
Both VE and BC's read lists make 0 sense and due to associations on HF, who we all seem to think is scum, they're probably all scum together. No other trio has as many associations where all 3 share the same weirdass reads.
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On May 26 2019 16:00 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2019 15:54 Jockmcplop wrote:
Right I'm all in.
Probably not going to be in the thread much today, but I say that every day and then I'm here anyway. Make them see, Bugs.
If hf isn't scum he's the mislynch king.
But he is scum. yeah whichever two of me, rayn, and koshi are alive will lead town and vote together. Like we are guaranteed to vote as a block. And I think if HF is alive he becomes the lynch because all 3 of us agree he is scum. I think if we lynch in this order: HF/BC/Calix/Artanis We win the game. Like, disformation, conversion, etc. are not listed by enough players for them to be scum here, it just doesn't make sense, and their reads are perfectly fine and I townread them otherwise. Both VE and BC's read lists make 0 sense and due to associations on HF, who we all seem to think is scum, they're probably all scum together. No other trio has as many associations where all 3 share the same weirdass reads.
HF/BC/Calix/Artanis is assuming VE dies tonight of course. If HF dies tonight then it's VE/BC/Calix/Artanis whatever.
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On May 26 2019 16:14 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2019 15:15 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 26 2019 15:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
And you've been wrong on ruxxar (so was i)
You were wrong on igrok
You are wrong about me.
So given I don't trust your reads based on that perhaps mine are more realistic.
I was not wrong on iGrok, I thought he was going to flip jailkeeper for like 80% of yesterday. I at least got the alignment right. I mended my reads with HF because I thought we needed to cooperate more. He didn't listen to me. Imagine calling the guy town and voting him but then scum reading the guy that wrote a case on him :D That's you buddy.
I'm confirmed town. You're probably getting shot in the dick tonight anyway.
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On May 26 2019 16:17 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think you are. Its extremely likely you have a mafia vig and will try and claim a shot on me.
if I had a mafia vig I would have killed two people N1.
I'm not a fucking scrublord at scum like you
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also if I were a real vig and not a shitty gunsmith I would've shot VE n1 when he taunted me about sleeping tight and this game would probably be at 150 pages instead of nearly 250
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On May 26 2019 16:20 Holyflare wrote:
Just in case anyone is a fucking moron. I am hard claiming jailor.
who did you target n1
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kill HF 100%
he should've lynched Koshi if he's jailer
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like no way you see that there are 4 claimed roles there and then not want to kill one of us
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On May 26 2019 16:20 Holyflare wrote:
Just in case anyone is a fucking moron. I am hard claiming jailor.
Jailer - Targets a player each night, that player is both protected from being killed and roleblocked (unable to use any powers that night). The targeted player is still susceptible to other effects.[Optional]
lel
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On May 26 2019 16:27 Holyflare wrote:
Everything you write is so fake and unbelievable. That's your mafia weakness unfortunately. Now you've decided to turn it to me that was your biggest mistake.
you're gonna have to figure out who I sent the gun to in order to actually make it to d3 lol
You won't be there to save VE and BC
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anyway. Night all. Will pick up again tomorrow from work.
tl;dr: to the person who has my gun, shoot HF or VE.
Lynch order is this:
HF/VE BC Calix Artanis
gg
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On May 26 2019 17:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
I'd laugh (if hfs claim is legit) that he stopped kp via his power by hitting scum with it
no idea how you know who he targeted when he actually didn't answer my question in the thread.
Anyway, y'all can leave me alive and try to get me lynched. You all know that even if I get lynched I will gladly trade myself 1 for 3. This game is over.
HF VE BC
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On May 26 2019 17:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Honestly shooting me may be best tbh, even if just to get Koshi/Jock to stop tunneling me and re-eval.
no, you're not scum.
HF, VE, and BC are the scumteam.
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Like seriously, just go read those 3 players.
I'm sorry rayn and Koshi for not believing your claims. Rayn I didn't believe your claim because it sounded fake + you would have needed to not read your role PM to do what you did on d1 and I didn't believe you would do that.
Koshi I literally did not believe your claim because you bolded and coloured the role name LOL
if HF is town jailer here he never would claim during the night. He would hold his claim until day because then he can try to actually get a prot off to delay the game a half-cycle, and it has the exact same impact on the game. Also if he doesn't claim, mafia will shoot into one of the other claimers or search for the jailer, and if the latter that means he has a chance to eat the mafia shot and become a dead confirmed townie.
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On May 26 2019 18:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2019 17:58 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 26 2019 17:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Honestly shooting me may be best tbh, even if just to get Koshi/Jock to stop tunneling me and re-eval. no, you're not scum. HF, VE, and BC are the scumteam. I really don't think so, but if you're right I don't see how you can lynch them when Jock/Koshi/Rayn are much more interested in Me/Calix. HF is also right that people need to realize it was a town/town day. Also, please look into disfo and tell me what you see.
nah Jock will be on my side.
Like seriously, there are two possible scenarios that happen here. They leave me alive, and I will either get one of them lynched (probably VE/HF depending on who my gunholder shoots) or I will get lynched, become confirmed gunsmith, and then you lynch the two remaining scum between VE/HF/BC in the following 2 cycles.
Your read on BC was correct.
My read on VE was correct.
Jock, Koshi, rayn, ruxxar, iGrok were all correct on HF.
GG.
Calix is not scum. Artanis is not scum. disformation is not scum. conversion is not scum. There are no scum teams that make sense that contain any of these players.
HF is dead tonight, and if not it seems like they're angling to keep me alive for tomorrow and we'll just lynch him then. koshi and rayn know what's up. No town jailer claims a few hours into the night when the mafia RB takes precedence, especially when by trying for a save he could ensure victory by delaying the game another half cycle.
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sorry conversion/disfo/Calix if I missed your reads lol. I think Calix shares my VE reads and looked like she didn't like the BC = town case dump thing which I also hated. disfo we can lynch if he takes no stances and there is 0% chance conversion is scum here
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On May 21 2019 11:30 ruXxar wrote:
Bugs sounding like a broken record and repeating yourself ad nauseam doesnt make the genie pop out of bottle and make your wish of me being mafia come true.
It does however make me think youre just a dumb town tunneling. Unless youre scum buddy with calix trying to deflect his lynch(which i find unlikely after your call out post), youre just stuck in the typical town ego trap of mafia read confirmation bias. Your ego wont allow you to back down from this lynch now that youve put so much into it.
I see no point why you as mafia would keep pushing me at this point.
Thats fine, i get it, ive been there. Ill just ignore you from now on as youre very clearly too deep in the hole to think rationally any longer.
I do want to bring attention to the huge momentum swing we’ve had in activity from certain players.
The beginning of the game was a big shitshow dominated by the presence of rayn and hf. Both of which have gone either completely silent(rayn) or currently do not give a shit(hf)
Rayn really outed himself in a dumb way that i dont think mafia would do. He took a what i would consider big gamble by goung full retard. He was on the chopping block for a while but made it out alive. Hes very likely town at this point.
Hf on the other hand, is currently playing a masterful scum game. Hes controlling his thread presence well, but has basically taken no hard scum stances on anyone. Hes wobbling and flaky in his reads and he refuses to take a stance on the main wagons by either defending or pushing them (calix and me).
Lately he seems very content with where the thread is heading and is very indifferent to the outcome of this lynch, despite claiming that i was not scum earlier and refusing to make up a fresh opinion.
I see no real motivation behind his actions besides his content in letting this lynch play out.
HF reeks of scum and is almost certain to flip mafia at this point, summing up the development of his thread interaction, lack of real motivation and indifference to the current situation.
Tldr:
Bugs is dumbo town.
Rayn is town.
HF is mafia.
##vote holyflare
man I really regret killing this guy
best single read in the game right here
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On May 26 2019 18:27 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2019 14:44 wherebugsgo wrote:Alright, since everyone's asleep except me let me dump my thoughts and get opinions before I do my Sunday reflection time in time for the day to start again on Monday. We have 3 confirmed townies if no one else claims blue: koshi
rayn
wherebugsgoNo point in me waiting for the EON to post this now because I don't see any evidence rayn or koshi are fake claiming here and the flip was not another blue as I was suspecting, so Koshi's hit claim is 100% legit unless we have a jailer come forward later in the game. I'm: gunsmith that's how my role appears, even though it's Gunsmith in the OP. Important thing to know about my role: I know whether I was roleblocked on n1 because I can check whether I have a gun after the night if I've tried to send the gun to someone. I don't have my gun anymore and so my send on n1 was successful. to the person who received my gun on n1: Shoot VE tonight.Now that's over with, here's my remaining thoughts: There are 3 scum in these players: VE/BC/HF/Calix/disformation/Artanis That's currently the order I'd kill them, left to right. VisceraEyes he's dead tonight unless I happened to give my gun to a scum n1. Highly doubt that though  BloodyC0bbler - very likely to be scum with VE because he's been passing on reading a lot of players, especially VE in particular. Really bad posts today. Raging on Koshi getting shot, bad play, etc. smells like he's genuinely tired of this game but it looks a lot worse to me now because unlike last game he hasn't actively helped me as much as I'd expect him to, and I think his reads are trash. He also took no stance on me vs VE and given the amount of time and number of posts I've made, it's unacceptable that he still townreads VE. I personally believe he needs to die tomorrow. HolyFlare pretty likely to be scum here too. Given the events of the game and now that we know rayn and Koshi are town, I'll leave it to both of them to decide between HF/Calix/BC. Both ruxxar and iGrok thought he was scum and it's honestly not terribly unlikely that HF is scum given how chaotic this town has been. Even if all of the scumteam options here are disgusting like VE/BC/HF or VE/BC/Calix or (less likely IMO) VE/Calix/HF we can still easily win here. Highly likely townJockmcplop - you can do this. Look at my reads but also trust your own as it gets later in the game. Conversion - highly doubt you're scum here. iGrok saw the same thing I did on you, and so did Calix. Townish but on the POE list:Calix - I believe you're town but you're part of the POE list now because rayn and koshi are confirmed town and it's confirmed that koshi was shot. If you're town your job will be to figure out the one scum between HF/disfo/artanis, with a possibility of conversion, I believe. However you're probably the best lynch after HF if he flips town because you obviously would have a huge motivation to shoot Koshi, and if you're on a team with VE that would be an obvious bus opportunity as well. Sorry. Artanis I gave you quite a pass on d2. You looked a lot better than BC to me. You also scumread BC. I actually see some of the anger tone appearing on BC so I think the meta defense case was bad (and this makes HF look way worse as well) especially because if BC is scum here he's playing with VE, and if HF is scum with him then the defense on BC wasn't real. However you didn't really agree with me on VE so that's a minus in my book on you. Once VE flips red on the daypost I hope you can pull out a lynch of BC or HF tomorrow without getting mislynched if you are indeed town here. disformation - I believe you're town as well but at this point I don't remember exactly why. You're my least certain read here and you need to start taking really hard stances on which pair of scum teammates VE has, otherwise you might be lynchbait. + Show Spoiler +I nearly died laughing when I saw this: On May 26 2019 04:30 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2019 04:29 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 26 2019 04:29 Holyflare wrote:On May 26 2019 04:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
No you don't think bugs is mafia.
ur trollin lol I had a gif prepared the whole time. U ALMOST GOT ME I'm not lying? + Show Spoiler +Why do you think he's been making all these blue posts all of a sudden? I actually have insomnia and so I saw it soon after it was posted, but I was so sleepy I had no idea what was going on. Flashbacks to last game and the fake claim and I was just like nah let's sleep it off LOL WBG saw the light????
bro we got this, you know this is the scum team
I'll even let you lynch Calix if you want LOL. I'm sure she wouldn't mind being inserted in there
However HF comes first, if he's alive tomorrow.
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On May 26 2019 18:29 Holyflare wrote:
You should be modkilled bugs.
for what? Saying I didn't believe Koshi's roleclaim because it didn't match the veteran role in the OP? For saying the role you claimed doesn't match the spelling in the OP? For saying that rayn would never claim town vanilla either before OR after reading his role PM once he claimed PC later and didn't back off of it?
Come now, if we're gonna talk modkills don't tell me you didn't do the same thing with rayn at start of D1. You knew he was a PR there.
It's not a modkill-worthy offense to take advantage of thread-public knowledge for the advance of your win condition.
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On May 26 2019 18:30 Holyflare wrote:Like now I know your claim is legit because: Show nested quote +
I'm:
gunsmith
that's how my role appears, even though it's Gunsmith in the OP.
you talked about your host given role pm and how it was formatted and it's just like mine so you will never ever be lynched by me or campaigned for being mafia
I mean, I didn't quote the PM at all? That's literally how my role appears, I'm going to claim it as I received it, and state that it does not match what's in the OP because that's the truth.
Like, I didn't believe Koshi's roleclaim partly because it was bolded and in blue and that does not match what was clarified publically in this thread.
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