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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 16:14 GMT
#3397
On May 25 2019 01:13 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 01:04 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 25 2019 01:00 Calix wrote:
On May 25 2019 00:57 disformation wrote:
On May 25 2019 00:46 Calix wrote:
Good talk, disfo and Koshi.

Since you two are either paranoid of me or think I'm 'mafia', fancy making some sort of case? Asking some questions?

Or in Koshi's case, pushing me so that I die over 'obvtown' iGrok

yeah, not 100% sure about your alignment.
still think you are less likely scum than grok, art, bc.
your reads look reasonable to me.
and unless a bunch of other guys you actually play when you are here.


Okay why are you not '100% sure'? Because it's getting annoying having people whine about how I might be mafia yet never doing anything to fix that.


I think you should stop defending yourself.

I really don't think defending yourself at this point is helping anyone read you. In fact, it's making it harder for me to maintain a read on you because you defend yourself so much even now when you are under no lynch pressure that it completely overshadows your reads. I have to struggle to recall your reads when more than half your posts are like this.


I am just trying to get people to clear up their reads on me while this game is in a lull, not defending myself.

And while I could try getting Koshi to do something, I don't think that'll get me very far.

I feel like game is on pause because thread sentiment is so against iGrok that he's almost certainly going to die today unless he comes at us with a townie post. Which I doubt.

Trying to push someone else won't do a lot because that person knows they're unlikely to die today.

As things should be.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 16:19 GMT
#3400
On May 25 2019 01:16 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 01:13 Calix wrote:
On May 25 2019 01:04 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 25 2019 01:00 Calix wrote:
On May 25 2019 00:57 disformation wrote:
On May 25 2019 00:46 Calix wrote:
Good talk, disfo and Koshi.

Since you two are either paranoid of me or think I'm 'mafia', fancy making some sort of case? Asking some questions?

Or in Koshi's case, pushing me so that I die over 'obvtown' iGrok

yeah, not 100% sure about your alignment.
still think you are less likely scum than grok, art, bc.
your reads look reasonable to me.
and unless a bunch of other guys you actually play when you are here.


Okay why are you not '100% sure'? Because it's getting annoying having people whine about how I might be mafia yet never doing anything to fix that.


I think you should stop defending yourself.

I really don't think defending yourself at this point is helping anyone read you. In fact, it's making it harder for me to maintain a read on you because you defend yourself so much even now when you are under no lynch pressure that it completely overshadows your reads. I have to struggle to recall your reads when more than half your posts are like this.


I am just trying to get people to clear up their reads on me while this game is in a lull, not defending myself.

And while I could try getting Koshi to do something, I don't think that'll get me very far.

I feel like game is on pause because thread sentiment is so against iGrok that he's almost certainly going to die today unless he comes at us with a townie post. Which I doubt.

Trying to push someone else won't do a lot because that person knows they're unlikely to die today.


You could do what you are dreading and actually read VE, or at the very least read the posts I've made about VE because solving the game is more useful than sitting on your hands.

I don't understand why you think you need to get Koshi to do more in order to get a better read on him when he's played like this for five IRL days and there is no sign of him stopping any time soon

I am a nice boy now.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 16:54 GMT
#3415
On May 25 2019 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Calix/conv/hf

conv for Artanis.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 17:46 GMT
#3446
On May 25 2019 02:45 Holyflare wrote:
Whatever this rayn guy is doing is a bit silly though.

but not mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 17:47 GMT
#3449
On May 25 2019 01:36 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 00:59 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty sure I even gave my 6 before the jock event.

your first list with 6 ppl is imo that one:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 05:57 Koshi wrote:
1. BloodyC0bble
4. HolyFlare
8. iGrok
11. disformation
12. Arty Mctanis
13. Calix

My 6 candidates after D1. Bit afraid for Ruxxar maybe? I hesitated the most there.
And rayn I don't consider till d3.

jock became town jesus before that

sad days btw
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 17:57 GMT
#3455
On May 25 2019 02:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay so I'm open to the idea that I've just been wrong about rayn this whole time. I've had to disagree with like every reason he's given for his reads...not like, WHOLLY disagree, but disagree with the level of certainty that these things provide rayn. I've written it off to his playstyle up until now, but frankly with this his most recent Top 10 Anime Betrayal of HF, I'm left thinking maybe I'm the one being fooled here. Maybe he's trying to emulate his town-play as mafia with all this crazy certainty? It's DEFINITELY in his wheelhouse.

Someone like HF with loads of meta weigh in. Has rayn's certainty up to now been within his normal town-rayn range of certainty - to - bad reasoning?

rayn mafia game in the past was always say what the thread will say but 5 hourd before that.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 17:58 GMT
#3456
Anyway. igrok obv town.

But baddies wont listen to me and rayn so w.e
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 17:58 GMT
#3460
Maybe VE is mafia and this is a VE/hf tandem but I am not seeing it.

I think chances are higher townies are just wrong on iGrok.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 18:00 GMT
#3462
@iGrok. Sry but you were on my PoE 6 names list and therefore potential mafia. I also but too much weight into other people their opinion. It's one of my weaknesses.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 18:02 GMT
#3463
On May 25 2019 02:59 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 02:58 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. igrok obv town.

But baddies wont listen to me and rayn so w.e


His posting today has been pretty scummy.
Why obvtown?
I GUESS WE'LL NEVER KNOW AS USUAL.

Because he sticks to his reads. And his reads are good but sadly the majority is still on the wrong path.

So they dont see he is right.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 18:03 GMT
#3464
@bugs. I am sorry for everything and will not flame you again. I didnt know you are sensitive about that.

We need to stop this igrok train bro.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 18:04 GMT
#3465
Ahh nvm bugs is also on igrok. Lolll
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 18:06 GMT
#3468
On May 25 2019 03:05 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 02:58 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. igrok obv town.

But baddies wont listen to me and rayn so w.e


This is really funny, don't you think?

Show nested quote +
On May 24 2019 01:11 Holyflare wrote:
No, they're good points to pick up on but unfortunately don't mean anything. It would probably be quite beneficial if you read some of my games where I'm mafia maybe? Although that will also be a time when I had more free time you can get a sense of my style. I normally imo just pick up on a point and hammer at it until I get a mislynch whereas town I kinda do that but actually have an ongoing poe with really shit feels and reasoning entwined in it. I also get swayed off things really easily.

Unlike this igrok guy who yet again posted an afk excuse.


One can only hope they see the light after you die. Dont focus and arguing with them. Just post opinions and your opinion only. Make it your testament.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 18:07 GMT
#3469
On May 25 2019 03:06 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 03:05 iGrok wrote:
On May 25 2019 02:58 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. igrok obv town.

But baddies wont listen to me and rayn so w.e


This is really funny, don't you think?

On May 24 2019 01:11 Holyflare wrote:
No, they're good points to pick up on but unfortunately don't mean anything. It would probably be quite beneficial if you read some of my games where I'm mafia maybe? Although that will also be a time when I had more free time you can get a sense of my style. I normally imo just pick up on a point and hammer at it until I get a mislynch whereas town I kinda do that but actually have an ongoing poe with really shit feels and reasoning entwined in it. I also get swayed off things really easily.

Unlike this igrok guy who yet again posted an afk excuse.


One can only hope they see the light after you die. Dont focus and arguing with them. Just post opinions and your opinion only. Make it your testament.

Dont focus on arguing*
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 18:08 GMT
#3470
Also to all other people

Who didnt want to vote jock because he was potential town: Koshi
Who said Ruxxar was conf town and should never be the lynch: Koshi


But you people keep doing what you are doing. Youbare the best.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 18:11 GMT
#3474
On May 25 2019 03:09 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 03:06 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2019 03:05 iGrok wrote:
On May 25 2019 02:58 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. igrok obv town.

But baddies wont listen to me and rayn so w.e


This is really funny, don't you think?

On May 24 2019 01:11 Holyflare wrote:
No, they're good points to pick up on but unfortunately don't mean anything. It would probably be quite beneficial if you read some of my games where I'm mafia maybe? Although that will also be a time when I had more free time you can get a sense of my style. I normally imo just pick up on a point and hammer at it until I get a mislynch whereas town I kinda do that but actually have an ongoing poe with really shit feels and reasoning entwined in it. I also get swayed off things really easily.

Unlike this igrok guy who yet again posted an afk excuse.


One can only hope they see the light after you die. Dont focus and arguing with them. Just post opinions and your opinion only. Make it your testament.

Yeah, that's why I decided to just completely tune out HF at this point. Just not worth engaging with mafia.

Should I even bother doing a stitch of my read list or should I just say fuck it because mafia are going to misconstrue it and get me lynched anyways?

I dont care. Just do it for yourself and look at the results endgame.

If you spam dumb shit people do what they want.
If you make brilliant cases people do what they want.

You play for yourself.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 18:12 GMT
#3477
On May 25 2019 03:11 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 03:08 Koshi wrote:
Also to all other people

Who didnt want to vote jock because he was potential town: Koshi
Who said Ruxxar was conf town and should never be the lynch: Koshi


But you people keep doing what you are doing. Youbare the best.


Its amazing really.
Its like you already knew who all the town are and only tell us when they look like they're gonna get lynched.

Bro. Dont be daft.
I have been saying things all the time. I just repeat them more if it is about lynch targets
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 18:14 GMT
#3480
On May 25 2019 03:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 02:57 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2019 02:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay so I'm open to the idea that I've just been wrong about rayn this whole time. I've had to disagree with like every reason he's given for his reads...not like, WHOLLY disagree, but disagree with the level of certainty that these things provide rayn. I've written it off to his playstyle up until now, but frankly with this his most recent Top 10 Anime Betrayal of HF, I'm left thinking maybe I'm the one being fooled here. Maybe he's trying to emulate his town-play as mafia with all this crazy certainty? It's DEFINITELY in his wheelhouse.

Someone like HF with loads of meta weigh in. Has rayn's certainty up to now been within his normal town-rayn range of certainty - to - bad reasoning?

rayn mafia game in the past was always say what the thread will say but 5 hourd before that.

Then by definition you can never get a read on him because everything he's saying you can't corroborate for 5 hours and by then it's something different. I.E. there's no way this metric is real.

Y U MAKE SHIT UP KOSHI?!?

I meant he tries to do that.
Is he trying to do something like that here?

No.

Here he is stuck with reads he cant progredd because town decided to lynch Ruxxar obvious town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 18:14 GMT
#3481
And he is sad bec2ause of that.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 18:14 GMT
#3482
On May 25 2019 03:13 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'm very said that no-one got my Amanda Young reference.

Who?
I had a good night of sleep.
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