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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 23 2019 10:19 GMT
#2496
Hmm. Between Artanis and BC I dont know who is more mafia. Artanis became really underwhelming, while BC made the worst post and vote in the game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 23 2019 10:20 GMT
#2498
My mafia team is still
Calix
BC
Artanis

BUT

I am now willing to vote somebody else than Calix.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 23 2019 10:26 GMT
#2504
On May 23 2019 19:20 Koshi wrote:
My mafia team is still
Calix
BC
Artanis

BUT

I am now willing to vote somebody else than Calix.

And I still think HF is mafia. For real.

I really dont think iGrok is mafia and maybe mafia is setting up the TvT with Calix/iGrok.

iGrok is just not looking evil. Maybe helpless? Even though he provides his ideas. Dnu.

I feel the thread has put more doubt in iGrok than he deserves for sure.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 23 2019 10:28 GMT
#2507
On May 23 2019 19:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2019 19:20 Koshi wrote:
My mafia team is still
Calix
BC
Artanis

BUT

I am now willing to vote somebody else than Calix.

You know, the main reason you townread iGrok was that he was maf reading Bugs like you. Now that you're not maf reading Bugs, does your townread of iGrok remain? If so, why?

No I neveraf read bugs.
Also not why I townread iGrok at all. I townread him because I feel that the pressure on him is dirty.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 23 2019 10:28 GMT
#2509
On May 23 2019 19:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
Koshi interacts with me when he agrees and ignores me when he doesn't.

I dislike.

Hmm
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 23 2019 10:30 GMT
#2511
On May 23 2019 19:28 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2019 19:26 Koshi wrote:
On May 23 2019 19:20 Koshi wrote:
My mafia team is still
Calix
BC
Artanis

BUT

I am now willing to vote somebody else than Calix.

And I still think HF is mafia. For real.

I really dont think iGrok is mafia and maybe mafia is setting up the TvT with Calix/iGrok.

iGrok is just not looking evil. Maybe helpless? Even though he provides his ideas. Dnu.

I feel the thread has put more doubt in iGrok than he deserves for sure.


That's incredibly close to my set of scumreads at the moment.

Not sure about Calix. Also not sure about iGrock.

I may be willing to switch to iGrock if we can lynch hf/artanis if he flips town.

Yes. iGrok is a lynch made after more information. Like ruxxar should have been.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 23 2019 10:31 GMT
#2513
On May 23 2019 19:28 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2019 19:26 Koshi wrote:
On May 23 2019 19:20 Koshi wrote:
My mafia team is still
Calix
BC
Artanis

BUT

I am now willing to vote somebody else than Calix.

And I still think HF is mafia. For real.

I really dont think iGrok is mafia and maybe mafia is setting up the TvT with Calix/iGrok.

iGrok is just not looking evil. Maybe helpless? Even though he provides his ideas. Dnu.

I feel the thread has put more doubt in iGrok than he deserves for sure.


That's incredibly close to my set of scumreads at the moment.

Not sure about Calix. Also not sure about iGrock.

I may be willing to switch to iGrock if we can lynch hf/artanis if he flips town.

I'll join you on Artanis because I trust wbg his read on bc. That is the only reason why I vote Artanis > bc.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 23 2019 10:32 GMT
#2514
##unvote
##vote Artanis
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 23 2019 10:35 GMT
#2517
On May 22 2019 21:03 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 05:57 Koshi wrote:
1. BloodyC0bble
4. HolyFlare
11. disformation
12. Arty Mctanis
13. Calix


Shortened my list.

I only feel confident 2 are on there. Unless Calix is mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 23 2019 10:36 GMT
#2518
On May 23 2019 19:34 Calix wrote:
Lo and behold!

I predicted people would call me town/ back off when I got back into the thread.

And now Koshi and VE have done exactly that!

Show nested quote +
Callix I could see flipping red, however I havent been able to keep a stable read on her all game. I saw her as red based purely on her opening post. There are other posts that reinforce that decision but at the same time there are a ton that I see being made specifically from the mindset from someone who is town. Given that my biggest reason for ever seeing her as scum was basically the same reason I saw ruxxar as scum I would say she is a lower priority to kill than the me/igrok/artanis group.


Meanwhile BC comes out with a 'read' on me which is so vague it might as well not exist. What posts does he refer to? What is the thought process? I see none, only vague wankery.

In fact, BC's #2499 doesn't say anything!

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 23 2019 19:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Well, be it vet or Jailer, good work last night. It almost makes up for our screw up D1.

Now let us learn from our mistakes and get this lynch right.

TBH

Based on yesterdays escapades the current people to start the day looking at to lynch.

Myself
Calix
Igrok
Artanis

Possibly add in Disinformation/Conversation. However as much as I know I am town, there is enough suspicion that we need to sort me out as well as the other 3. We have all been accused / still being accused of being mafia so as much as you all have your other reads. (please do share them clearly) Consolidation on a lynch priority barring some new pressing information everyone should be weighing in on this group.

If nothing else it forces everyone to hard stance enough and prevents people from waffling or "appearing" and not actually providing substance. I think we can all agree on this? I hope so at least.


I have posted my reasons already on Artanis. Even with everything that has happened and taking a step back I can still see him bleeding red.

Callix I could see flipping red, however I havent been able to keep a stable read on her all game. I saw her as red based purely on her opening post. There are other posts that reinforce that decision but at the same time there are a ton that I see being made specifically from the mindset from someone who is town. Given that my biggest reason for ever seeing her as scum was basically the same reason I saw ruxxar as scum I would say she is a lower priority to kill than the me/igrok/artanis group.

Igrok. I really haven't spent much time on him. Going to go do that now, but I will honestly say based on everything I can currently remember from day 1. The worst thing he did was the weird association between HF/Ruxxar/Calix?


Let's go through this.

He points out the obvious lynch candidates then adds a pointless paragraph about how we need to sort him out as well. This doesn't need to exist, it's basically theory that anyone can spout.

Still has Artanis read which hasn't changed, k.

Vague AF read on moi.

Wants to filter iGrok and takes two sentences to say 'I have no actual read on this dude'.

This really did not need to be a wall post.

Meh. I feel the lynches were set up weird.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 23 2019 10:38 GMT
#2521
On May 23 2019 19:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
koshi aiming at 2-2-2-2-2 again.

Maybe I'm wrong on Koshi.

Meh. You say weird things.
You jump off Calix and I need to stay on her?
Dnu bro. Lynch on Calix might be dirty because iGrok is not mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 23 2019 10:41 GMT
#2525
On May 23 2019 19:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2019 19:38 Koshi wrote:
On May 23 2019 19:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
koshi aiming at 2-2-2-2-2 again.

Maybe I'm wrong on Koshi.

Meh. You say weird things.
You jump off Calix and I need to stay on her?
Dnu bro. Lynch on Calix might be dirty because iGrok is not mafia.

I can also lynch Art.

It just felt weird. Like you were so sure yesterday. But w/e I can lynch Art.

Yes. Opening and her attacking me but not voting me is annoying and not sensical.

But HF/Artanis/BloodyCobbler are so passive and not making waves. If they are mafia it fits with Calix not being mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 23 2019 10:43 GMT
#2530
BloodyC also puts so many questions in his posts that are so mehhhhh. I dont understand why people do that.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 23 2019 13:28 GMT
#2602
Maybe if I play wbg his game he will like me more. 🤔
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 23 2019 13:35 GMT
#2610
On May 23 2019 22:24 Conversion wrote:
onto a more salient point:

Show nested quote +
On May 23 2019 21:00 Holyflare wrote:
On May 23 2019 18:49 Koshi wrote:
Can somebody explain to me why the thread now thibks conversion is mafia? I saw rayn put it in the thread and after that he dropped on both HF and VE townlist by more than he should.


I don't think he's dropped through actions really, just by poe and the fact I've not entirely liked what he's been up to. He has no focus on me which is something I think he'd be doing as town (afraid as mafia maybe? Bit of a stretch) and he's kind of in a weird tangential place not playing the same game as other people.


I'm like 99.99% sure I do not ever engage you directly unless you engage me first, unless I'm doing some D1 lynch holyflare that never gets traction. I'll attempt to eat a shoe and probably fail if I'm wrong, but a quick filter into past games confirm that

HF is a liar and a thief!

Also mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 23 2019 13:36 GMT
#2611
On May 23 2019 22:31 disformation wrote:
desire to lynch conv: about 0%

Why?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 23 2019 14:10 GMT
#2627
On May 23 2019 22:40 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2019 22:36 Koshi wrote:
On May 23 2019 22:31 disformation wrote:
desire to lynch conv: about 0%

Why?

cause it feels genuine that he is pissed that not that many ppl cared about his case on me and im pretty sure like 0 ppl cared about his post on you?

Oki. Feel like he can fake that but it's ok.
Maybe not.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 23 2019 14:12 GMT
#2631
On May 23 2019 22:49 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2019 22:35 Koshi wrote:
On May 23 2019 22:24 Conversion wrote:
onto a more salient point:

On May 23 2019 21:00 Holyflare wrote:
On May 23 2019 18:49 Koshi wrote:
Can somebody explain to me why the thread now thibks conversion is mafia? I saw rayn put it in the thread and after that he dropped on both HF and VE townlist by more than he should.


I don't think he's dropped through actions really, just by poe and the fact I've not entirely liked what he's been up to. He has no focus on me which is something I think he'd be doing as town (afraid as mafia maybe? Bit of a stretch) and he's kind of in a weird tangential place not playing the same game as other people.


I'm like 99.99% sure I do not ever engage you directly unless you engage me first, unless I'm doing some D1 lynch holyflare that never gets traction. I'll attempt to eat a shoe and probably fail if I'm wrong, but a quick filter into past games confirm that

HF is a liar and a thief!

Also mafia.

d00d.
i had to go back like 8 pages back in your filter to find a semblance of an explanation of your hf scum read. all 8 pages after that is just you saying "hf is mafia".
so if you are town: i get its frustrating that ppl ignore you and not listen to you and lynch someone thats obv town to you. and i know hf is not easy to case if he is mafia. but maybe instead of being an obstinate spamer you could like slow down at one point and be like "i know you scrubs wont get it, but maybe open hfs filter and look for those points".
so 1 braincell towns like me (normally i run on 2 brain cells but i currently have an headache) can open up hf's filter and be like "oh i can now totally see what koshi is going on about, maybe my read on hf was ass".

and for the record that were the posts i found:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 02:38 Koshi wrote:
On May 21 2019 17:47 ruXxar wrote:
On May 21 2019 17:37 Holyflare wrote:
Personally, I think ruxxar was perfectly correct to call me mafia. I had a high burst of activity and then have completely waffled and disappeared as people get more active.

What I don't like is that it was opportunistic. He'd town read me before afaik, arbitrarily decided that between rayn and I that I somehow became mafia and then wrote the narrative on me.

He dropped all his other reads for that too. Essentially I'm the lynch bait currently and he took it. Who else is he supposed to push to look good other than a high profile sitting duck that people can't disagree with his read on?


What id this logic.

Ruxx: hf is acting scummy
Hf: youre right, but your scummy for calling me scum.

Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 02:39 Koshi wrote:
On May 19 2019 21:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 19 2019 20:56 Holyflare wrote:
On May 19 2019 20:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What? I copy pasted my first post from last game and changed some words and order lol.


Now he's retroactively justifying it :D!!!!!!!!

HF: Rayn did this because he's mafia
Rayn: No I did this because X
HF: AND NOW HES TRYING TO EXPLAIN HIMSELF!!! KILL IT!!!


Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 02:40 Koshi wrote:
That is hf this game.
+
Trash filter 7 hours ago. Didnt check anymore.

e.g. it would have been super swell to write one sentence or two about why exactly hf's filter is trash and we should put him together with his filter into the garbage bin

He is too friendly to be town. I have a theory he reads people by his jackassness.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 23 2019 14:16 GMT
#2635
On May 23 2019 23:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2019 23:12 Conversion wrote:
On May 23 2019 23:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2019 23:06 Conversion wrote:
On May 23 2019 23:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2019 22:55 Conversion wrote:
I also did not call VE mafia, not sure where you're getting that from. I was specifically responding to Calix asking me about the VE/Artanis/BC/Calix stuff, and I was saying that if there was mafia in the 4, I can narrow it to three because I believe Calix is town.

I got it from this post:
On May 23 2019 22:36 Conversion wrote:
On May 23 2019 22:29 Calix wrote:
I also agree that Conversion's post reads as extremely townie for his frustration over his efforts largely being ignored...as opposed to him being okay that most people don't really care about him. The latter IS an ideal situation for mafia, after all.

Don't think it's helpful to discuss this 'game' or whatever though. Conversion, have disformation/ Koshi done anything to change your reads of them? And what do you make of the whole BC/ VE/ Calix/ Artanis situation?

[...]
On the opinion on BC/VE/Calix/Artanis, I'm inclined to believe there is scum in there. If I'm going by my current reads (I honestly think you are town, not sure where this Calix mafia stuff is coming from), it'd be BC/VE/Artanis, so they'll be my focus today.

Because your answer is very subtle. If you don't think one or more of those people are mafia, then idk why you word your post like this.

I mean:

Calix: what do you make of the whole BC/ VE/ Calix/ Artanis situation?
Conv: I'm inclined to believe there is scum in there. If I'm going by my current reads it'd be BC/VE/Artanis.

I dont think this looks natural at all, regardless of what you think about Calix.


what is subtle about that, though? I am telling the thread that I feel as if there's a mafia in there (literally 0 reason, as you can see), and that I will focus my efforts in there. I still don't see the subtlety of calling VE mafia, if that's what you're getting at?

Because this game is about giving reads on other people and the only thing you say is that you think there is mafia but Calix can be town and then both of you seems to just be happy with that answer.........


because I have no reads. I have not read them, which I admitted to. I haven't read basically most of this game besides Koshi and Disfo on day 1. I can give you reads now if you want, but they'll be off me remembering things than actually doing research, which I don't want to do. I want to find logical inconsistencies, and I want to have proof that I caught scum. if my feeling wavers after actually reading their filters, then I'll look into someone else.

I don't have time to have read everyone's filters especially when most are 10+ pages, with a lot of spam. I was busy for the past few days.

No one is living happily ever after-- if I still don't give reads by the end of this 72hour day cycle, then that is enough to lynch me as dodging scum.

fine, do what you do. but then dont tell other people you're mad at noone listening to you because you made basically one case yesterday you have now backed off and you seem to have no scumreads.

Apply water
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 23 2019 14:20 GMT
#2640
I said it too!
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