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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
May 19 2019 23:06 GMT
#381
ill be back in like 5-6 ish hours. Doing some family stuff.

Please for the love of god dont turn this thread into a shitshow in the meantime though
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
May 19 2019 23:07 GMT
#382
On May 20 2019 08:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
##vote ruxxar

why am i anot mafia?
why i was mafia in the first place?

let's hear it.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 19 2019 23:08 GMT
#383
The worst part of that Jock post is that he's calling rayn mafia by doing exactly what he told rayn was scummy about him fmp. He says rayn does nothing but come in and bitch about how people are playing, but complains about how rayn is playing.

I did miss that iGrok was town last game for whatever reason I though iGrok was replaced by Vivax who got modkilled, but it was a simultaneous thing iGrok replaced when Vivax was unjustly modkilled. Honest mistake, but it doesn't change my read of this game. Just makes the throwaway meta part of it inaccurate.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
May 19 2019 23:10 GMT
#384
VE, jock is mafia. I give you a the mars volta promise
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 19 2019 23:11 GMT
#385
On May 20 2019 08:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 08:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
##vote ruxxar

why am i anot mafia?
why i was mafia in the first place?

let's hear it.


My read on you hasn’t moved much tbh, in my spreadsheet last night I had you as a coin flip (compared to 25% baseline) . I think ruxxar is just a better lynch and if you’re town you have plenty of activity and potential to shape up, especially if you’re not constantly on edge due to people calling you scum.

I don’t often find your reads very useful in general though, and this game you don’t seem to have many yet so it would be nice if you spent some time actually trying to reduce unknowns rather than attack people for doing things you don’t like.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
May 19 2019 23:12 GMT
#386
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 19 2019 23:15 GMT
#387
On May 20 2019 08:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 07:59 Holyflare wrote:
On May 20 2019 07:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 20 2019 07:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why would you kill a townie that wants to lynch mafia?


You know he’s town?

btw I didn’t see anyone else mention this and I’m sad because I wanted a free town read so I’ll just come out and say it myself

VE used activity to paint iGrok scummy based on him being replaced last game but actually iGrok was town last game, replaced by slam. I can’t point out the post now because I’m on mobile but 99.999% sure VE’s post was saying this. Seems like it might have just been an honest mistake but VE is quite sharp


I mean, that's not the reason VE voted or called iGrok scummy in the slightest? He said he didn't like how iGrok called rayn friend for his opening post and then voted rayn for his opening post.

There was a whole discussion about it?


I didn’t say that. I was just pointing out something. Go read my post again, carefully, then go read VE’s posts (probably from the last page?) again. He makes one post to the effect of something like “iGrok replaced out of last game as mafia” and assuming he is talking about the game we all just played, that is not true.



On May 19 2019 23:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On May 19 2019 23:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 19 2019 23:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
Eeeehhhh....I don't like how iGrok jumped on the rayn wagon. His first post was a jokey response post TO rayn and I about also being friendly - at the time, he didn't seem to be bothered by the way rayn phrased his post. In fact it looks like it's worded in a way that makes it seem like he thinks rayn is town ("i'm also friendly") only to then say he thinks rayn got "fucked by the hosts"

##Vote: iGrok

I like this one better.


I have to check if iGrok is really that terrible as mafia. If it was iamperfection who made that post i 'd vote in a heartbeat.

Well he instareplaced out of the last game as mafia. If viewed from an 'iGrok bad at mafia, but he try this game in penance" perspective it feels pretty good.


It's pretty ambiguous? Does he mean the last time he actually was mafia? Hard to tell, either way seems bit meaningless.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
May 19 2019 23:16 GMT
#388
On May 20 2019 08:11 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 08:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 20 2019 08:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
##vote ruxxar

why am i anot mafia?
why i was mafia in the first place?

let's hear it.


My read on you hasn’t moved much tbh, in my spreadsheet last night I had you as a coin flip (compared to 25% baseline) . I think ruxxar is just a better lynch and if you’re town you have plenty of activity and potential to shape up, especially if you’re not constantly on edge due to people calling you scum.

I thought i am your top mafia as you voted for me?
Your reasoning to "not call me scum anymore" if that's how we put it, is because i have potential if i am NOT scum?

I don’t often find your reads very useful in general though, and this game you don’t seem to have many yet so it would be nice if you spent some time actually trying to reduce unknowns rather than attack people for doing things you don’t like.

I can do that when you respond to my reads other than "bad read". The read on Jock is hands down 2019, you just dont see it yet or are mafia, but idc that much about it, i am just telling who is mafia. <3
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 19 2019 23:17 GMT
#389
On May 20 2019 07:19 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 07:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
This is literally the exact shit I was trying to avoid.

I'm catching up but man alive. I specifically warned against this shit.


Actually you know what?

I am calling bullshit on this.

This seems way too convenient. VE just HAPPENED to warn us against pushing rayn too much, tried diverting to iGrok, claimed rayn would ruin the game if we kept pushing him, etc.

Then rayn just latches onto a bad case against Jock and pushes it with a vastly disproportionate amount of confidence before making a random and completely unwarranted role claim and generally acting like he's lost his shit.

Emphasis on the acting.

I'm more tempted to think VE/ rayn set this up than anything else. There are lots of 'hints' beforehand that make me suspicious as to how authentic they're being.

#shamelesstinfoil


Calix I want to hear about the hints you described, can you point them out to me?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 19 2019 23:17 GMT
#390
On May 20 2019 08:15 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 08:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 20 2019 07:59 Holyflare wrote:
On May 20 2019 07:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 20 2019 07:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why would you kill a townie that wants to lynch mafia?


You know he’s town?

btw I didn’t see anyone else mention this and I’m sad because I wanted a free town read so I’ll just come out and say it myself

VE used activity to paint iGrok scummy based on him being replaced last game but actually iGrok was town last game, replaced by slam. I can’t point out the post now because I’m on mobile but 99.999% sure VE’s post was saying this. Seems like it might have just been an honest mistake but VE is quite sharp


I mean, that's not the reason VE voted or called iGrok scummy in the slightest? He said he didn't like how iGrok called rayn friend for his opening post and then voted rayn for his opening post.

There was a whole discussion about it?


I didn’t say that. I was just pointing out something. Go read my post again, carefully, then go read VE’s posts (probably from the last page?) again. He makes one post to the effect of something like “iGrok replaced out of last game as mafia” and assuming he is talking about the game we all just played, that is not true.



Show nested quote +
On May 19 2019 23:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 19 2019 23:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 19 2019 23:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
Eeeehhhh....I don't like how iGrok jumped on the rayn wagon. His first post was a jokey response post TO rayn and I about also being friendly - at the time, he didn't seem to be bothered by the way rayn phrased his post. In fact it looks like it's worded in a way that makes it seem like he thinks rayn is town ("i'm also friendly") only to then say he thinks rayn got "fucked by the hosts"

##Vote: iGrok

I like this one better.


I have to check if iGrok is really that terrible as mafia. If it was iamperfection who made that post i 'd vote in a heartbeat.

Well he instareplaced out of the last game as mafia. If viewed from an 'iGrok bad at mafia, but he try this game in penance" perspective it feels pretty good.


It's pretty ambiguous? Does he mean the last time he actually was mafia? Hard to tell, either way seems bit meaningless.


Nvm.

Not sure I like VE' s reentry straight into Jock though.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
May 19 2019 23:17 GMT
#391
VE is a boss.
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 19 2019 23:20 GMT
#392
alright I’m officially putting rayn in the ignore pile.

Also I don’t know how anyone can say they are 100% sure on reading Jock either way, especially someone who played last game and witnessed us mislynch him in the presence of virtually identical rhetoric
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
May 19 2019 23:22 GMT
#393
On May 20 2019 08:20 wherebugsgo wrote:
alright I’m officially putting rayn in the ignore pile.

Also I don’t know how anyone can say they are 100% sure on reading Jock either way, especially someone who played last game and witnessed us mislynch him in the presence of virtually identical rhetoric

witnessed yes
participated no
told you he was town.

BC is town i think.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
May 19 2019 23:24 GMT
#394
those kind of posts make me think if you are mafia or just so fucking bad at this game...
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Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
May 19 2019 23:24 GMT
#395
I am also coincidentally boarding a flight home. praise 72 hour days, cause I can catch up tomorrow

interesting hot takes from skimming:

wtf rayn claimed? was it a joke

disinfo is flaky as hell from what I read and probably mafia
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
May 19 2019 23:26 GMT
#396
On May 20 2019 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
for the record i think disformation is mafia too. purely associative but always true if jock is mafia which he is.


can u explain this association to me? im gonna dig disfo, but i’d like to hear ur association thoughts
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
May 19 2019 23:26 GMT
#397
On May 20 2019 08:24 Conversion wrote:
wtf rayn claimed? was it a joke

disinfo is flaky as hell from what I read and probably mafia

yes

yes

you should vote for jock.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
May 19 2019 23:27 GMT
#398
On May 20 2019 08:26 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
for the record i think disformation is mafia too. purely associative but always true if jock is mafia which he is.


can u explain this association to me? im gonna dig disfo, but i’d like to hear ur association thoughts

i posted a thohough case and all he had to say was "hmmmmm (not gonna touch the case) maybe it could somehow be interesting if jock was mafia"
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 19 2019 23:28 GMT
#399
On May 20 2019 07:29 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 07:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
List of shit because I want to.

Town reads
VE
HF (god help me)

Mafia reads
Ruxxar
Calix
Disinformation

Null
Everyone else

where is jock? or are you withholding that read (i am super curious after you asked everyone to comment on it) until everyone commented on it? -.-


What is your read on Jock?

And what do you think of Conversion coming in and calling you flaky?
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
May 19 2019 23:30 GMT
#400
On May 20 2019 06:39 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 06:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Hi disinformation. As I see you are here. Answer me!

What do you think of the quote I posted in my bigger post above?

dunno if I see the point.
rayn comments on some ppl (which dont look scummy to him) and jock asks if anyone looks suspicious to him. I think one would expect rayn to call people scum/mafia (like he is doing now).
though. thinking about it, jock kinda ignores that rayn just gave a bunch of reads and says rayn is only defending himself and berating people. which he isnt cause he just gave reads.

hmmm... don't think I like that.


idk i havent played in a while but this sorta flaky thing is something that’s rather evident (like rayn just mentioned, he doesn’t take a stance really)

someone correct me if that’s just how disfo plays, but i dont like pivot posts where someone goes “hmm good point but x” “this is true but y”

might be personal bias against posts like that though. i’ll do a meta check once at a computer but i like my read right now
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