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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 14:42 GMT
#747
On May 20 2019 23:33 Koshi wrote:
Lets just kill wbg

u have... like a case or something?
most solid mention on wbg in your filter is like:
On May 20 2019 19:38 Koshi wrote:
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On May 20 2019 16:37 Jockmcplop wrote:
koshi i'm really not getting scum vibes from WBG except for that one early bit where he gave towncred to hf but he kinda backed up on that a bit later iirc.
Is this because you are posting bit by bit as you read the first pages or do you think WBG is sucm?

Wbg is playing thread police and pushing the lynch onto a place it should never go.

He claims Calix is mafia but wants to lynch Ruxxar. That is the most retarded thing ever because Ruxxar is only mafia if he decided to hard buss Calix. All other cases he is tip top town.

I should read the player list but lynch should almost always go into Calix or a lurker.

On May 20 2019 20:49 Koshi wrote:
Wbg is probably mafia for pushing me to vote Calix.

disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 14:57 GMT
#767
currently looking at ruxxar. doesnt seem like a bad vote target.
other option would be to sheep ve and hf onto igrok.

want to see bc to explain the stuff surrounding his jock quote, think that will heavily influence my opinion on him.
fairly null on you tbh.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 14:58 GMT
#770
On May 20 2019 23:54 Conversion wrote:
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On May 20 2019 23:53 Calix wrote:
On May 20 2019 23:51 Conversion wrote:
disfo what is your state of the game right now? literally all I'm seeing is you prodding things and 0 conclusive anythings

who do you watn to lynch? do you agree with bugs and we should lynch ruxxar? what about jock's point on me? anything?


I shall pose similar questions to you since I don't know your thoughts on many of the players. What other reads do you have that you have SOME confidence in?


I don't need thoughts on other players, I have caught scum in disformation and am currently meta diving him. I invite you to join me and lynch scum with fire

i have links to (nearly) all game i was in in my profile btw.
havent added the recent themed game yet (the fibonacci one)
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 14:59 GMT
#772
On May 20 2019 23:57 disformation wrote:
currently looking at ruxxar. doesnt seem like a bad vote target.
other option would be to sheep ve and hf onto igrok.

want to see bc to explain the stuff surrounding his jock quote, think that will heavily influence my opinion on him.
fairly null on you tbh.

that was @calix
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 15:05 GMT
#781
On May 21 2019 00:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
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On May 20 2019 23:54 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 20 2019 23:53 wherebugsgo wrote:
conversion I support you and would like to invite you to my town circle


What's conversion done to make you think he's town?


his tone, and that he's one of the very few people in this game who has kept their eye on the prize and forced the conversation back to the lynch target of choice.

what was your read on jock again? i think he was in your town circle? cause he is doing the exact opposite of that imo.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 15:10 GMT
#789
On May 21 2019 00:05 Conversion wrote:
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On May 21 2019 00:02 Jockmcplop wrote:
Y'know your the second person in here to say they're gonna ignore me (koshi backed off that quickly tho) but that genuinely makes you look like scum.


so tell me why disformation IGNORING ME FOR THE PAST 40 PAGES NOT MAKE HIM SCUM

i mentioned you here:
On May 20 2019 18:39 disformation wrote:
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On May 20 2019 08:28 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 20 2019 07:29 disformation wrote:
On May 20 2019 07:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
List of shit because I want to.

Town reads
VE
HF (god help me)

Mafia reads
Ruxxar
Calix
Disinformation

Null
Everyone else

where is jock? or are you withholding that read (i am super curious after you asked everyone to comment on it) until everyone commented on it? -.-


What is your read on Jock?

And what do you think of Conversion coming in and calling you flaky?

flaky is a new one. usually people say things like "waffly" "unoriginal" "no reads" etc. And I don't think I did a lot of stuff in this game so far so *shrugs*.
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hmm good point but x” “this is true but y”

is basically my play style so I suspect he is going to scum read me a lot?
interested to see if he follows up on the meta though.

jock is complicated for me atm. will do a post after lunch to explain.
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On May 20 2019 16:58 Koshi wrote:
I also ignore jock his posts. Which is dangerous but w.e

highway to the danger zone
right into the danger zone

great now i have an ear worm

still waiting for the meta.
On May 21 2019 00:07 wherebugsgo wrote:
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On May 21 2019 00:05 disformation wrote:
On May 21 2019 00:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 20 2019 23:54 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 20 2019 23:53 wherebugsgo wrote:
conversion I support you and would like to invite you to my town circle


What's conversion done to make you think he's town?


his tone, and that he's one of the very few people in this game who has kept their eye on the prize and forced the conversation back to the lynch target of choice.

what was your read on jock again? i think he was in your town circle? cause he is doing the exact opposite of that imo.


he's town. If you think scum Jock would randomly start attacking VE and bring all sorts of attention to himself in the process, at a time where the thread has already gone to shit and all he'd have to do is sit back, then I don't know what to tell you.

In this situation what I expect a lot of scum to do is to put up token resistance if suspected and then disappear. That's exactly what ruxxar did.

aight fair point. was noting earlier that jock was digging into a lot low effort targets, but not "big names". him digging at VE would subvert that. sounds indeed unlikely.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 15:21 GMT
#794
fuck flood control...

@ conv:
i think also wanted to know if you think jock is pants on head town or scum from your pov.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 15:33 GMT
#797
On May 21 2019 00:25 wherebugsgo wrote:
I'm off to bed now. ruxxar's come back so hopefully he can clear up his alignment for us. I'm not hopeful either way

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On May 21 2019 00:21 disformation wrote:
fuck flood control...

@ conv:
i think also wanted to know if you think jock is pants on head town or scum from your pov.


btw do you intend on providing any opinions or only asking questions this game?

What player would you kill right now and why?

opinions are totally overrated

i acutally like your posts on ruxxar (as i mentioned like a few minutes ago), but he just got here so imma wait and see what he does.
otherwise sheeping ve and hf on igrok seems decent (as i mentioned a few minutes ago).
for conv i want see see what/if he follows up on my meta (as i mentioned ...)
for bc i have a town lead (as i posted) but am confused about the jock stuff so i want him to come back and explain (as i posted).
ve top town (as i posted)
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 15:34 GMT
#798
also posted a read on jock

so not sure where the "0 opinions" stuff is coming from.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 15:37 GMT
#799
your points on ruxxar and jock look reasonable and i dont really get the early game read art and ve had on you, so u prolly town
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 15:50 GMT
#802
On May 21 2019 00:37 Holyflare wrote:
God you guys do a lot of pointless arguing.

Give me a case to look at.

not sure if we have proper cases to quote at you.


wbg on ruxxar:
On May 20 2019 10:44 wherebugsgo wrote:
man I hate when I'm timeboxed for decisions. I've got one I've got to make before the 27th and I'd rather just punt it for 6 months but people are impatient /rl rant

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On May 20 2019 09:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 20 2019 08:59 wherebugsgo wrote:
I’ve got a meeting in 3 minutes.

VE, BC while I’m gone sheep me on ruxxar or explain why you don’t want to

Also define who’s a thread skimmer/lurker this game and rank them on kill priority

I'm gonna pass on that one.

A) You've given literally no reasoning that I can see for your vote aside from "for that one post alone" which, filtering you in isolation, I can't even see which it is. So...

B) I filtered ruxxar and found that his posting seems internally consistent, and relatively comprehensive as far as "what you should know about me" posts go. It feels this side of townie to me.

I'm not going to rank lurkers on kill priority, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard what are you even fucking doing?


you're right, I didn't post reasons for ruxxar, mostly because I put too much faith in people actually going back to read his only post of any real substance and it being self-explanatory from his entrance. It's quite simple:

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On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.

- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.

- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.

##Vote calix


3 things that stand out:

1. Doesn't want to lynch active people but isn't actively involved either. In fact there's almost a hidden implication that ruxxar doesn't intend to be active in that statement
2. First 5 bullets come off as "I need to post some reads so I can continue skating by so let me summarize some basics and say things others probably would agree with"
3. Calix vote justification looks forced and justification for the sake of justification.

When Calix responded by saying "yeah well, it looks like that way because I'm sheeping" ruxxar's only response was to concede that the pronouns were wrong.

On May 20 2019 23:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
man I might actually be right here

ruxxar put up a weak front when responding to me and then just disappeared, while everyone else has just gone on to talk about all sorts of other things. Koshi's entrance and almost every entrance since then (like Artanis's) just make it easier for him to continue hiding. He's still the best lynch here. disformation's response isn't completely awful, and Conversion's response to Jock feels a bit overblown but it's easier to ignore him for now and let him calm down a bit because it reduces variance.

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On May 20 2019 22:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 20 2019 22:35 Holyflare wrote:
On May 20 2019 22:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 20 2019 22:07 Holyflare wrote:
On May 20 2019 22:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 20 2019 00:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 19 2019 23:32 Calix wrote:
While I can see where you're coming from with wanting to avoid a flame war, I don't think disregarding players as lynch candidates [even if only temporary] is a good idea just because they MIGHT act like shitters And if they will do that then better to get it out of the way IMO.

This really just makes it sound like you want to lynch townies. I really don't like the feels.

[2]


Can you explain how this shows Calix wants to lynch townies?

"better to get it out of the way" suggests not actually thinking they'll flip scum to me. The tone of the post in general doesn't suggest that she thinks they'll likely flip scum, which when juxtaposed with her Rayn position doesn't make a whole lotta sense.


You realise this means get their tantrum out of the way not lynch them right?

That's not how I read it and I'm not sure how you got there.


this is to everyone, but mostly you and VE because you are the ones asserting this:

rather than assume what Calix is saying why not just get Calix to say it directly? Nitpicking someone is not a great way to establish their alignment

but ruxxar just came into thread so kinda waiting to see what he responds/posts.


conversion is on me with:
On May 20 2019 08:30 Conversion wrote:
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On May 20 2019 06:39 disformation wrote:
On May 20 2019 06:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Hi disinformation. As I see you are here. Answer me!

What do you think of the quote I posted in my bigger post above?

dunno if I see the point.
rayn comments on some ppl (which dont look scummy to him) and jock asks if anyone looks suspicious to him. I think one would expect rayn to call people scum/mafia (like he is doing now).
though. thinking about it, jock kinda ignores that rayn just gave a bunch of reads and says rayn is only defending himself and berating people. which he isnt cause he just gave reads.

hmmm... don't think I like that.


idk i havent played in a while but this sorta flaky thing is something that’s rather evident (like rayn just mentioned, he doesn’t take a stance really)

someone correct me if that’s just how disfo plays, but i dont like pivot posts where someone goes “hmm good point but x” “this is true but y”

might be personal bias against posts like that though. i’ll do a meta check once at a computer but i like my read right now

On May 21 2019 00:05 Conversion wrote:
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On May 21 2019 00:02 Jockmcplop wrote:
Y'know your the second person in here to say they're gonna ignore me (koshi backed off that quickly tho) but that genuinely makes you look like scum.


so tell me why disformation IGNORING ME FOR THE PAST 40 PAGES NOT MAKE HIM SCUM



jock on conv:
On May 20 2019 17:37 Jockmcplop wrote:
Lynching conversion is the smart play here.

Like reading through his filter I can't see a single post where there's a clear town motive. He makes a read but says sorry and its probably wrong like because he hasn't played much.

Later on its 'i'm on phone and lazy'.

He's the third person in the space of a couple of hours to say he's on a plane and can't post. NAI on its own but looks scummy in context. Doesn't come back after. Long plane journey? Can't still post lazily on his phone when he lands/gets home. I mean if you're posting lazily why not just take the 2 seconds to do so.







and then we still have the same old igrok stuff?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 15:51 GMT
#803
votes are super all over the place thb
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 15:58 GMT
#804
oh think i forgot to mention ruxxar and koshi on calix.
On May 20 2019 06:49 ruXxar wrote:
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On May 20 2019 06:41 Holyflare wrote:
On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.

- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.

- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.

##Vote calix



Please elaborate on specifics on when Calix did these things so that I can cross reference what you actually mean and if it's bs or not.


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On May 19 2019 22:38 Calix wrote:
Hi.

HF/ Jock said a lot of what I was going to say so I don't have much new to add. They're currently my top town-reads because of that and I'm happy to sheep them.

I like WBG's #220, that looks like a post a townie would make when they're trying to be reasonable and not just jump down their suspect's throat.

Personally, I don't like how rayn has been acting during his latest interaction with Jock. Jock's been on the offensive and looking really townie while rayn's responses have been lacking.

(I don't care about the role stuff. It has nothing to do with my vote)

##vote raynpelikoneet


this post right here
it almost makes me wanna vomit how artificial it is



not sure if that counts as case
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 16:20 GMT
#807
On May 21 2019 01:00 Calix wrote:
Clearly the current best case is ruxxar making a "here if you have any questions" post before fucking off.

wow already has been an hour... alrighty!
#vote: ruxxar
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 16:37 GMT
#808
On May 21 2019 01:14 Conversion wrote:
interestingly enough I have played with disformation more than I thought

two recent games I'm meta diving here: classic (disfo mafia)and vendee (disfo town, replaced in after N1)

totally forgot about vendee. think i havent added both games to my filter either.
On May 21 2019 01:14 Conversion wrote:
the thing with disfo here, from what I'm reading, is that he generally sounds the same (to which I think rayn alluded to when he was telling me disfo sounds the same either way)

yeah no shit
On May 21 2019 01:14 Conversion wrote:
the thing is I'm more inclined to believe disfo is mafia here because it's been almost 48hrs and he hasn't done one productive thing all game

yeah unfortunately i missed a huge part of d1.
On May 21 2019 01:14 Conversion wrote:
let's take a look at Vendee:

vendee

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On February 08 2018 05:25 disformation wrote:
also a random thought i had:
if i remember correctly: the rs wagon was for a long time the only serious one around, so i want to look at ppl who hoped onto that easily/meekily so that they look like they were doing/pushing someone.


On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:
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On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.

Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.

@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?

flagged for possible teammate interaction.
aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot?

your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo.
i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads?
like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin
then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile.
heavily implied strong tr on koshi though


On February 08 2018 06:51 disformation wrote:
ritoky afks his vote on mderg fairly early in the day. says we could default lynch him instead for shennies. dont think that is likely to come from scum.
hf was hammer on scum. and even if both wagons are scum i think a scum!hf would have played this day differently.

outside of that it is a bit hard to tell imo. kinda depends on whether rsoultin is really scum or not.


I'm not going to go on a wall of quotes here, but what I'm seeing is lots of transparent thoughts in solving the game, without PRODDING.

that's the big thing here, disfo this game has done nothing but majorly prodding. no real original thoughts tbh, just lots of questions

won't share who he wants to lynch, won't comment on wagons, doesn't defend anyone, he tries to slink off into the background

stuff like this in the current game
On May 20 2019 23:57 disformation wrote:
currently looking at ruxxar. doesnt seem like a bad vote target.
other option would be to sheep ve and hf onto igrok.

want to see bc to explain the stuff surrounding his jock quote, think that will heavily influence my opinion on him.
fairly null on you tbh.


translates to "ruxxar is meh, I'll vote him maybe, or I'll sheep to igro, but you are null. he just seems very opportunistic and not trying to solve the game

he only really comes in when questioned/asked as well, I'm not seeing any proactivity in scum hunting in his posts



now let's look at his mafia game

classic
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On March 20 2018 16:36 disformation wrote:
not sure what to about mocsta. I like that he is like looking at ppl that are not much talked about (tocktock).

but then both tocktock and ylk look like okayish to me, so I am not sure if he is just making stuff up to post.


On March 21 2018 21:34 disformation wrote:
@rs: did look at the host revenge game. slam looked very different to here.
i also don't think he would care that much about ppl voting him that much normally.

but as a question: does it look different from only his town games or both his town and scum games? dont recall any scum slam games I was, link me a good one?

though if the theory works then slam should think you are town for voting him early. as scum tries to keep him alive for long. the thing is, he hasn't posted about that theory thing recently hasnt he? maybe he forgot?

so the question would be:
@slam:
chupazi theory or:
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On March 21 2018 13:52 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 21 2018 07:46 Mocsta wrote:
So... im in an odd predicament

(1) I have an important dinner tonight so wont be able to critically read anything
(2) Where I work has been thrown in an unplanned shutdown.. I really dont know if I can commit the time to apply critical thought.

I still think Day1 comes down to resolutions on the big topics:
Slam
Moosy
Ex0/KSC,
Koshi/Disfo/n00bking,
DF

Rest is probably side distractions.

My current (albeit loose) thoughts are:

Above null pile (Ex0_, rsoultin, vivax, rayn, Kelsier, ykl, disinfo, Palmar
Null pile (HF, Conversion, Slam, darthfoley, Rels, tictock, sicklucker, koshi, moosy)
Below null pile (n00bking)

Of the above null, I feel least strong about disinfo as its based on a heuristic that is gut feel only.
Conversion is in null pile as I havent focused on anything he has said.
Slam I would still need to meta-dive.
DF I actually like, but I give pause since so many others have issue. I wouldnt lynch today, and would prefer not to use a bullet on.
tictock is in null pile as I was surprised by the content since waking. Maybe im selfish, but I was quite surprised he didnt ask me anything.
moosy i agree is not on the table Day1. Could be easy mislynch; so focus on other scum team.

Apologies to leave it like this.

Like shit I’m a big topic still.

Consider lynching me like lynching little Blazinghand. I am really actually quite good; I’m just too nervous to ditch the façade just yet. Also, late game I wifom myself to the 5th level so I become easily influenced again.

So I’m a mid game player. Give me the mid game, and I’ll benefit. I really shine when you throw me in at the middle.

But lynching me early is just a waste.

Say I were actually mafia even. Do you really think I am a good day one lynch mafia player? I am shit at pushing a real lynch I actually believe in (read last game! I couldn’t even do it with HF’s dogged help, and he is one of the best!) so what real use am I to a scumteam?

Except to bus. So now, if you’re pushing me as scum? Consider this. As your scummate, (lol), I just took away your ability to bus me without heavily implicating yourself- EVERYONE KNOWS MY POINT IS RIGHT; I AM A GREAT BUSSING TARGET. SO NOW YOU INCRIMINATE YOURSELF. You ask, “lol slam cracked poor guy” in the QT, “how the hell does he think this will implicate us with his flip?”

Here’s the kicker.

Town, if you push me with genuine intent on me being scum, you are a lazy ass and deserve to lose. I am, if not THE least, one of the least influential players on this forum- I SAY BAR NONE, and challenge you to lift my spirits a bit and prove me wrong.

So when I flip town? You deserve to be suspected.

BAM MAFIA GOTTA BACK OFF.

which one is it?

but i am not gonna lie, between him being very different and him being apparently fairly upset by that vote, he makes me nervous.


On March 21 2018 21:56 disformation wrote:
rayn's overall filter is kinda meh. doesn't look horrible on a glance, but has not a lot of impact either. his reason to vote me checks out. also seems to be very busy.
rayn has fooled me before though so i'll reserve the right to some paranoia.

not sure if i would want to lynch him for that d1, but if his filter is still meh and he has had no impact on a later day, i would heavily recommend lynching him.


On March 21 2018 22:08 disformation wrote:
nah. don't have a problem with rs's filter. have no meta with/on her though.


On March 21 2018 22:25 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 22:20 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, tbf, my read on you was back and forth.

Namely, you've only been focused on noob. You don't seem to be trying to suss out other alignments. That is scummy.

Caveats are: scumreading for his entrance wasn't bad
you could be tunneled town

But frankly, even tunneled town usually bother to attempt to make other reads even as they're tunneling.

yeah i think that was my prob with conv as well. he had like 2 reads.

just to organize my thought:

town(ish) (no order):
tocktock
vivi
ksc
rs
mocsta

way too many nulls/meh/bleh ppl.


he does a better job blending in Classic than he is here, actually. tries to at least LOOK like he's putting in some effort, but looking at his game here, it just does exactly what he's doing here, just better

he's blending in, throwing out some "reads" here and there, but falls flat in taking a strong stance in really anything


I just feel like it's the same sort of weird tonal meta read I had with rsoul in Vendee and the meta diving for me encapsulates disformation very clearly here: demotivated, trying to stay hidden and posting for the sake of posting (lots of prodding, evades conclusive questions, not really sure what real objective he has for D1 still to this hour)

I'd just like to reiterate here that I do not think Jock-Disfo can be a team from the way they are playing.

I'll look into ruxxar next since he did kind of just go "u tried" and ran away

slightly confused why you say in the beginning i sound the same in both games and then conclude i am scum anyways, at least partially for tone? I also wouldn't exactly call the quotes from the classic game strong conclusions. well maybe the comment on hf.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 16:44 GMT
#810
On May 21 2019 01:39 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 00:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 21 2019 00:20 ruXxar wrote:
ya know, i gotta give you credit for tunneling hard bugs, at least youre trying.
im home now so i can answer any questions you have.


On May 20 2019 16:01 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 20 2019 15:55 ruXxar wrote:
I do the same shit when im mafia, playing the “knowitlall good guy mafiiso armchair hunter #1”


Then please go ahead and point out such a post in a past scum game of yours.

It shouldn't be terribly hard for you to do that if you're telling the truth.


Feel free to explain at this point who you'd kill and why. I have my doubts you'll make much sense, though.


so i spent about an hour reading through filters to refresh and condense my thoughts.
tbh my opnions didnt change much. new development being koshis entry and seeming fairly townish.
im starting to dislike jock a lot, his thread presence is annoying and erratic, i wish he would calm down and focus.
my scum read on calix remains, though i liked her post on conversion.
speaking of: im sensing some fake agression from conversion. might be tryharding to imitate town meta.
i could be swayed to vote conversion today.

That means you are still scumreading calix mainly for her entry post? Despite liking some posts she posted in the meantime?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 16:47 GMT
#814
yeah conv seems a tad tunnelled / conf. biased. at first i was like "oh nice not misrepresenting my meta, prolly wrong town" and then he concludes im scum anyways. So i am a bit like "wat".
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 16:54 GMT
#819
On May 21 2019 01:47 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 01:44 disformation wrote:
On May 21 2019 01:39 ruXxar wrote:
On May 21 2019 00:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 21 2019 00:20 ruXxar wrote:
ya know, i gotta give you credit for tunneling hard bugs, at least youre trying.
im home now so i can answer any questions you have.


On May 20 2019 16:01 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 20 2019 15:55 ruXxar wrote:
I do the same shit when im mafia, playing the “knowitlall good guy mafiiso armchair hunter #1”


Then please go ahead and point out such a post in a past scum game of yours.

It shouldn't be terribly hard for you to do that if you're telling the truth.


Feel free to explain at this point who you'd kill and why. I have my doubts you'll make much sense, though.


so i spent about an hour reading through filters to refresh and condense my thoughts.
tbh my opnions didnt change much. new development being koshis entry and seeming fairly townish.
im starting to dislike jock a lot, his thread presence is annoying and erratic, i wish he would calm down and focus.
my scum read on calix remains, though i liked her post on conversion.
speaking of: im sensing some fake agression from conversion. might be tryharding to imitate town meta.
i could be swayed to vote conversion today.

That means you are still scumreading calix mainly for her entry post? Despite liking some posts she posted in the meantime?


yep

unwillingness to update ones reads in the face of new evidence is usually not town. guess that applied to conv too though...
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 17:13 GMT
#831
On May 21 2019 01:59 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 01:54 disformation wrote:
On May 21 2019 01:47 ruXxar wrote:
On May 21 2019 01:44 disformation wrote:
On May 21 2019 01:39 ruXxar wrote:
On May 21 2019 00:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 21 2019 00:20 ruXxar wrote:
ya know, i gotta give you credit for tunneling hard bugs, at least youre trying.
im home now so i can answer any questions you have.


On May 20 2019 16:01 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 20 2019 15:55 ruXxar wrote:
I do the same shit when im mafia, playing the “knowitlall good guy mafiiso armchair hunter #1”


Then please go ahead and point out such a post in a past scum game of yours.

It shouldn't be terribly hard for you to do that if you're telling the truth.


Feel free to explain at this point who you'd kill and why. I have my doubts you'll make much sense, though.


so i spent about an hour reading through filters to refresh and condense my thoughts.
tbh my opnions didnt change much. new development being koshis entry and seeming fairly townish.
im starting to dislike jock a lot, his thread presence is annoying and erratic, i wish he would calm down and focus.
my scum read on calix remains, though i liked her post on conversion.
speaking of: im sensing some fake agression from conversion. might be tryharding to imitate town meta.
i could be swayed to vote conversion today.

That means you are still scumreading calix mainly for her entry post? Despite liking some posts she posted in the meantime?


yep

unwillingness to update ones reads in the face of new evidence is usually not town. guess that applied to conv too though...


At least Conversion MIGHT actually be tunneled though. I didn't hate his meta post as much as I thought I would. By that, I mean I can actually kinda see it come from a townie, not that I agree with it.

agreed.
On May 21 2019 02:02 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2019 01:54 disformation wrote:
On May 21 2019 01:47 ruXxar wrote:
On May 21 2019 01:44 disformation wrote:
On May 21 2019 01:39 ruXxar wrote:
On May 21 2019 00:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 21 2019 00:20 ruXxar wrote:
ya know, i gotta give you credit for tunneling hard bugs, at least youre trying.
im home now so i can answer any questions you have.


On May 20 2019 16:01 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 20 2019 15:55 ruXxar wrote:
I do the same shit when im mafia, playing the “knowitlall good guy mafiiso armchair hunter #1”


Then please go ahead and point out such a post in a past scum game of yours.

It shouldn't be terribly hard for you to do that if you're telling the truth.


Feel free to explain at this point who you'd kill and why. I have my doubts you'll make much sense, though.


so i spent about an hour reading through filters to refresh and condense my thoughts.
tbh my opnions didnt change much. new development being koshis entry and seeming fairly townish.
im starting to dislike jock a lot, his thread presence is annoying and erratic, i wish he would calm down and focus.
my scum read on calix remains, though i liked her post on conversion.
speaking of: im sensing some fake agression from conversion. might be tryharding to imitate town meta.
i could be swayed to vote conversion today.

That means you are still scumreading calix mainly for her entry post? Despite liking some posts she posted in the meantime?


yep

unwillingness to update ones reads in the face of new evidence is usually not town. guess that applied to conv too though...


my reads are changing, its just that people dont usually throw out posts that are so dramatic it totally changes my alignment on them right away.
also first impression reads tend to linger quite a while

mh. i mean tone wise its prolly more town?
like mafia probably wouldnt want to be like "yo im here" then take an hour and go like "nah got nuffing much for you". on the other hand you are not offering up any new opinions/ideas this way? on the other other other hand though...

lemme think a bit omw home.
not sure how much time i have today. will try to have more time tomorrow
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 20 2019 20:13 GMT
#852
On May 21 2019 02:33 ruXxar wrote:
havent played a mafia game where its been this hard to come up with solid reads ngl.
everyone being active smart or active gorilla, hard to tell apart day 1.

hope this isnt like a hf/koshi/art game or something.
On May 21 2019 05:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
By nature of when he was here and what was going on, How is just general inactivity make more more suspicious? If he appears just to avoid potential warnings/modkills it would look suspicious otherwise why does it get worse?

There are far better options atm then someone who might get removed via a mod. That is literally why he shouldnt be up for a lynch

isnt banking on modkills a bad idea? like nothing stops him showing up 1-2mins b4 deadline posting something and then avoiding the modkill.
i think VE has a point. in recent fibonacci themed game, scum!vivax got a bunch of votes thrown in his face and just disappeared from the face of the earth.
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