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On May 19 2019 22:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 22:15 Holyflare wrote:
lol jock is like top tier town at the moment. I like the aggression. The only thing that bothers me is that he is pretty much saying he is dumb but i dont think he is dumb.
He doesn't say he's dumb, anywhere. He just says that he doesn't really like your response because it's weird (which it was) and THEN he doesn't like your follow up because you've not really done anything to scum hunt, spread suspicion or prove yourself town. Simple.
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On May 19 2019 23:09 VisceraEyes wrote:emphasis mine Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 12:35 iGrok wrote:
I am also friendly, and wearing black tie attire Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 22:29 iGrok wrote:
I think rayne got fucked by host, but I'm not going to not take advantage of it.
I'm also going to be on a plane most of today. Probably different one than Artanis though lol
##vote: Raynpelikoneet
I literally don't even know what this case is supposed to highlight? What makes him mafia?
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On May 19 2019 23:47 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 23:31 Holyflare wrote:On May 19 2019 23:09 VisceraEyes wrote:emphasis mine On May 19 2019 12:35 iGrok wrote:
I am also friendly, and wearing black tie attire On May 19 2019 22:29 iGrok wrote:
I think rayne got fucked by host, but I'm not going to not take advantage of it.
I'm also going to be on a plane most of today. Probably different one than Artanis though lol
##vote: Raynpelikoneet I literally don't even know what this case is supposed to highlight? What makes him mafia? Opportunistic hop onto rayn wagon that contradicts his prior posting. It seemed obvious enough to me...
How is it contradictory?
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On May 19 2019 23:58 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 23:56 Holyflare wrote:On May 19 2019 23:47 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 19 2019 23:31 Holyflare wrote:On May 19 2019 23:09 VisceraEyes wrote:emphasis mine On May 19 2019 12:35 iGrok wrote:
I am also friendly, and wearing black tie attire On May 19 2019 22:29 iGrok wrote:
I think rayne got fucked by host, but I'm not going to not take advantage of it.
I'm also going to be on a plane most of today. Probably different one than Artanis though lol
##vote: Raynpelikoneet I literally don't even know what this case is supposed to highlight? What makes him mafia? Opportunistic hop onto rayn wagon that contradicts his prior posting. It seemed obvious enough to me... How is it contradictory? As I said in my post DIRECTLY ABOVE that one HF, the first post heavily implies that he thinks rayn is town, that the town vanilla did NOT bother him. Clearly. But then in the second one he says he thinks rayn got host-fucked. It's a clear contradiction, are you really doing this?
I don't think it's a clear contradiction in the slightest if you read any kind of context or tone into the post?
On May 19 2019 12:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Are you my friend VE?
On May 19 2019 12:26 VisceraEyes wrote:I am your friend. We will rule together. I, too, am vanilla town.
On May 19 2019 12:35 iGrok wrote:
I am also friendly, and wearing black tie attire
He doesn't say he's friends with rayn, nor that he town reads rayn in any capacity (and even if he did, he doesn't say anywhere that it would be for his first post at all). It's simply a joke-y entrance following suit with what you've posted.
I don't think it's contradictory to not even think about Rayn's post being a slip into having someone call it out into voting that person, since that's what bugs, myself, jock and calix kind of did (but really it's not for the first post at all).
Don't really know why I'm writing all these words defending iGrok tbh, maybe I just don't like logical inconsistency. You can call him mafia for hopping on the bandwagon for BAD reasons (just SOLELY doing it for the VT post is bad at this stage when people are voting rayn for other reasons).
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May actually even vote him with you.
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On May 20 2019 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am simply going to consider anyone who doesn't agree with me mafia right here because this is a fucking 100% slam dunk case.
You don't have the good case that you think you do, you've muddied the meaning of two posts to be about one topic.
He doesn't think you're scummy for the first post, he thinks you're weird and it's interesting you'd even do it.
He thinks you're scummy for your lack of doing anything after.
He then questions why you did the post you did to begin with but doesn't actually say that's the reason he's scum reading you, more that he wants to know why you even did it to begin with.
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On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix
Please elaborate on specifics on when Calix did these things so that I can cross reference what you actually mean and if it's bs or not.
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On May 20 2019 06:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am starting to think Holyfare is in fact mafia too.
No, you're just being dumb or actually mafia and conflating things into a narrative.
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On May 20 2019 06:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:HF. Ignoring Rayns case on Jock. What do you think of Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 22:07 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 19 2019 21:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 19 2019 21:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 19 2019 21:13 Holyflare wrote:On May 19 2019 21:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 19 2019 20:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Rayn, what was the plan behind it? No plan. I just thought it would be fun. So you're telling me you went to the past game, copied your post and changed like 50% of the words AND the order when you could have just simply typed out the sentence instead? That's really the line you're going with lol? Yes. Do you think i believe any host ever words VT "town vanilla" lol??? Well actually maybe you of all people do...  I mean this is the whole point of the case. Holyflare can actually brainfart and believe this is true and definitely is shameless enough to write shit like that. So nothing much to say about him. Jock is probably just new enough to idk just sheep and not think further. Gut says town becaise it would just give him more to talk about if he was just being right. Bugs should know better. Artanis and VE are being smart, which doesnt surprise me. At least VE is most likely friend. Latest posts say Artanis might be too. Is anyone suspicious to you yet rayn?? It seems like you're only defending yourself by telling people to play better instead of calling people out you think are being scummy.
You can read Rayn's filter and see "oh look he's posted reads on people" and whatever nonsense rayn keeps repeating like he believes he actually did something this game at the start that was worthy of being town read but when you actually get to the meat and veg of what rayn was posting it's entirely defensive drivel and based off of a defence of himself.
I totally agreed with Jock when he said it.
Now, I may have a different view of rayn because he's actually got a bit of a fire going but that doesn't mean he can't be mafia still. He may just have found something to latch onto that he will aggressively push to the ends of the earth and berate everyone from not seeing how obvious™ it was.
Truth is, Rayn always whines about how he just plays these games to solve it and at the start of it he was doing a whole lot of shit all and not much solving. No interest in doing what he says he always wants to do BUT he was actually present in the thread.
My read. Null :D
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On May 20 2019 06:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 06:47 Holyflare wrote:On May 20 2019 06:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am starting to think Holyfare is in fact mafia too. No, you're just being dumb or actually mafia and conflating things into a narrative. No. This one actually is a fucking slam dunk case. I have never been this sure without a check except for the rsoultin mderg not voting for each other case. And the ms paint one. This is top three and this is 100%. You can do whatever you want but he is mafia. I dont care if you, town, or both realise it in this game or after but i am not going to do anything but say this until i am dead or he is lynched.
Your reasons literally don't make a single bit of sense. You were in the thread for a whole lot of time while there was a case on you and you did absolutely shit all up to the point Jock said he scum read you for doing nothing. You were IN THE THREAD DOING NOTHING.
If you think this is a slam dunk case then I can only assume you are mafia and are just going to use it as a massive excuse to whine and afk and berate people for not seeing how obvious it was.
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If I had to rate people based on being robotic I'd probably have a list of:
Calix
iGrok
Bugs
Then there's just like:
Koshi
Conversion
Disfo(???? maybe not ????)
probably a good list for day 1 to look at tbh
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On May 20 2019 06:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I posted fucking once between his NAI -> scumread and said i thought it was funny which is what he said too lol.
Your opening post being non alignment indicative does not mean your OTHER posts are not alignment indicative.
You have 6 posts total before he calls you a scum read. A fair few of those are posts AFTER I've accused you of being mafia for your opening (of which he eventually finds NAI). So, you've seen a case on you, you're not responding other than with a few word answers and you're not making any conclusions to defend yourself, call someone mafia or solve the game.
I think it's well within his remit to call you mafia for that. I called you mafia for that and you haven't called me mafia, so what makes me any different?
iGrok called you mafia JUST FOR YOUR OPENING POST even though I admitted that was fake-ish pressure (and he posted after I said that!) and I called you mafia for other reasons before then! Why are you not voting him?
Calix just jumped on your bandwagon and called you mafia even though you said you had many content related posts. Why are you not voting her over Jock (yes, I know you DID vote her previously but your Jock post is in no way any less "damning" than any of these other people).
Bugs literally just sheeped me but didn't really allude to what part of it he was actually really sheeping, again, no vote on him.
Soooo what do you want me to think here rayn? That you just let all these people slide and focus on Jock, the guy I think looks by far and large the most townie out of them all?
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On May 20 2019 07:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He formed an opinion on me always based on what pther people said, never on what i said.
This is the truth.
Why does that make anyone mafia????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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On May 20 2019 07:04 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 07:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He formed an opinion on me always based on what pther people said, never on what i said.
This is the truth. Why does that make anyone mafia????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
like you KNOW KNOW KNOW this is even bull shit, he didn't always change his opinion based on what people said, he went AGAINST my case on your opening post saying it wasn't really alignment indicative
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On May 20 2019 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 06:53 Holyflare wrote:
Truth is, Rayn always whines about how he just plays these games to solve it and at the start of it he was doing a whole lot of shit all and not much solving. No interest in doing what he says he always wants to do BUT he was actually present in the thread.
For you, you are right. I was doing a whole lot of nothing. So was everyone else. Except for you, you were shitting up the thread with said nonsense. No opinions, only facts, and this is a fact. So fuck you.
If you want to berate me personally for presenting facts then so be it. It doesn't make me mafia and it makes you look pathetic. If you agree with the points that you did nothing but were present that's all I need to know and that's primarily why half the game scum read(s) you.
I don't agree with your Jock read and I don't think it's entirely accurate and as solid as you believe it to be. Sorry that that's the case but it is what it is. Let's move on because I don't think it's going to convince anyone else either.
Who else would you lynch that's not me or Jock?
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On May 20 2019 07:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:FYI idiots i wrote my psot like 3 hrs before the game started because:
Why are we idiots? Literally nobody voted you for that reason and we can't mind read that you decided pre-game that it would be hilarious to write a post 1 minute after the game started.
The only one that actually thinks you're mafia for it is iGrok and you're not voting him and apparently he's not even your top 3 votes after Jock, Calix and I?
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On May 20 2019 07:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 07:13 Holyflare wrote:On May 20 2019 07:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:FYI idiots i wrote my psot like 3 hrs before the game started because: On May 19 2019 21:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I just thought it would be fun. Why are we idiots? Literally nobody voted you for that reason and we can't mind read that you decided pre-game that it would be hilarious to write a post 1 minute after the game started. The only one that actually thinks you're mafia for it is iGrok and you're not voting him and apparently he's not even your top 3 votes after Jock, Calix and I? Then please actually read the thread and tell me why jock and bugs voted for me?
I.... did... like 3 times.
On May 20 2019 06:40 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am simply going to consider anyone who doesn't agree with me mafia right here because this is a fucking 100% slam dunk case. You don't have the good case that you think you do, you've muddied the meaning of two posts to be about one topic. He doesn't think you're scummy for the first post, he thinks you're weird and it's interesting you'd even do it. He thinks you're scummy for your lack of doing anything after.He then questions why you did the post you did to begin with but doesn't actually say that's the reason he's scum reading you, more that he wants to know why you even did it to begin with.
On May 20 2019 06:55 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 06:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 20 2019 06:47 Holyflare wrote:On May 20 2019 06:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am starting to think Holyfare is in fact mafia too. No, you're just being dumb or actually mafia and conflating things into a narrative. No. This one actually is a fucking slam dunk case. I have never been this sure without a check except for the rsoultin mderg not voting for each other case. And the ms paint one. This is top three and this is 100%. You can do whatever you want but he is mafia. I dont care if you, town, or both realise it in this game or after but i am not going to do anything but say this until i am dead or he is lynched. Your reasons literally don't make a single bit of sense. You were in the thread for a whole lot of time while there was a case on you and you did absolutely shit all up to the point Jock said he scum read you for doing nothing. You were IN THE THREAD DOING NOTHING. If you think this is a slam dunk case then I can only assume you are mafia and are just going to use it as a massive excuse to whine and afk and berate people for not seeing how obvious it was.
On May 20 2019 07:03 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 06:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I posted fucking once between his NAI -> scumread and said i thought it was funny which is what he said too lol. Your opening post being non alignment indicative does not mean your OTHER posts are not alignment indicative. You have 6 posts total before he calls you a scum read. A fair few of those are posts AFTER I've accused you of being mafia for your opening (of which he eventually finds NAI). So, you've seen a case on you, you're not responding other than with a few word answers and you're not making any conclusions to defend yourself, call someone mafia or solve the game. I think it's well within his remit to call you mafia for that. I called you mafia for that and you haven't called me mafia, so what makes me any different? iGrok called you mafia JUST FOR YOUR OPENING POST even though I admitted that was fake-ish pressure (and he posted after I said that!) and I called you mafia for other reasons before then! Why are you not voting him? Calix just jumped on your bandwagon and called you mafia even though you said you had many content related posts. Why are you not voting her over Jock (yes, I know you DID vote her previously but your Jock post is in no way any less "damning" than any of these other people). Bugs literally just sheeped me but didn't really allude to what part of it he was actually really sheeping, again, no vote on him. Soooo what do you want me to think here rayn? That you just let all these people slide and focus on Jock, the guy I think looks by far and large the most townie out of them all?
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On May 20 2019 07:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:because i had nothing to say when people were sheeping this: Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 20:56 Holyflare wrote:On May 19 2019 19:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Also HF's point on Rayn is NAI as the host had already cleared it up by then. Bugs giving HF easy towncred on that grants him some free scumpointsTM. I was hoping someone else would be around  ??????????????????? Rayn's post was BEFORE the host cleared it up how the fuck is it NAI? He either got a pm saying he was town vanilla which is absolutely not the case because it's not that or he doesn't know what the fuck the role even was called ??????????????????????
Point to me in the thread where people were sheeping this? Literally only iGrok has voted you for this reason.
Wherebugsgo, voting you for your lack of follow up to it or any kind of fire and passion (sheeping me).
Jock, DEFENDING your opening post but voting you for your lack of follow up or passion (sheeping me).
Calix (sheep).
iGrok, voting you for nonsense <---- currently best vote in the game
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On May 20 2019 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
L O fucking L, that's the shittiest case you have ever made HF, and you can't even realise what actually happened because of it. Those people are voting for me because of that shit. I didn't even see FF's clarification of the VT role when i wrote my post you called "Now he's retroactively justifying it :D!!!!!!!!".
This is so factually incorrect it's quite funny. I don't think you're this oblivious to the thread usually so why so ignorant of why people are voting you?
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It's pointless arguing with you. I'm just going to put you into an ignore pile and see what happens after your claim. iGrok is the best lynch today imo.
When he returned to the thread there were the following 2-3 points against rayn:
1) Rayn's opening post
2) Rayn's lack of doing anything afterwards and no passion mean rayn is mafia
3) Rayn hasn't tried to solve the game
At this point Jock/HF/Bugs (and calix?? need to double check) are voting for Rayn for reasons that aren't 1) because 1) was a fake case and literally just pressure. iGrok comes and votes Rayn for 1).
##vote iGrok
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