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On May 20 2019 07:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 07:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Dude. You need to step the fuck back out of this thread for like 10 minutes. Go calm yourself down and come back. We have 48 hours to figure out a lynch and you are arguing and flailing like you have 5 minutes. Normally I disagree with you a ton, and fuck I hate your playstyle but you are normally someone I can get a better clear read on and you went and fucked it up. youre right. i would say normally it wouldn't matter to me if i was sure, but i am actually sure now. i understand why you feel like this. idk why you hate my playstyle because i am nowhere near as abrasive i used to be. If it's because i call people retarded then okay i do.
No its because your town style is very very similar to my mafia playstyle (which HF is also guilty of) and it makes me want to stab you both with knives. but I also get thats a stylistic thing and something thats an issue on my end.
Theres more to why I dislike what youve done in the last 4 pages but Ill hold on to that for now as it may matter later if you continue playing like you are
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On May 20 2019 07:29 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 07:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
List of shit because I want to.
Town reads
VE
HF (god help me)
Mafia reads
Ruxxar
Calix
Disinformation
Null
Everyone else where is jock? or are you withholding that read (i am super curious after you asked everyone to comment on it) until everyone commented on it? -.-
Anyone else interested that he wonders where my jock read is but doesn't give a fuck that I put him as mafia ?
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On May 20 2019 07:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 07:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Theres more to why I dislike what youve done in the last 4 pages but Ill hold on to that for now as it may matter later if you continue playing like you are can you just tell me about it? if you are town then there is no reason you're gonna yell me about it later just because?
You are a good enough player to change what I am seeing if I out it atm. This is purely for my own read of your meta.
If it makes you feel better if I need to bring it up it will be done in a very similar manner to which I did (although wrongly) to HF last game. So you will be able to very clearly see my thought process. I wont bring it up now purely because I don't think you are someone who should even be up to be lynched today and until you post shit that changes my mind on that I dont want to waste more time cluttering the thread when there are better options IMO
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Come on bugs. Answer what I asked youuuuu
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On May 20 2019 07:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 07:40 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 20 2019 07:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 20 2019 07:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Theres more to why I dislike what youve done in the last 4 pages but Ill hold on to that for now as it may matter later if you continue playing like you are can you just tell me about it? if you are town then there is no reason you're gonna yell me about it later just because? You are a good enough player to change what I am seeing if I out it atm. This is purely for my own read of your meta. If it makes you feel better if I need to bring it up it will be done in a very similar manner to which I did (although wrongly) to HF last game. So you will be able to very clearly see my thought process. I wont bring it up now purely because I don't think you are someone who should even be up to be lynched today and until you post shit that changes my mind on that I dont want to waste more time cluttering the thread when there are better options IMO I am confused. When you say you dislike what i am doing are you saying it makes me look scummy (or scummier)? If that's so then idc. If it's like you dislike as a person (idk how to word it) then i'd like you to say whay.
Think of it like this. up until say 4ish pages ago I had you as a town read. You then proceeded to do things that put you down to null. Clearly I don't think you are currently scum but I dont have you clearly town anymore. IE you did something(s) that I didnt like. I given some of that already. Anything else is meta and I want to see if it was an abnormality based on the general circumstance.
Again I find reading you and HF extremely hard and don't want to clutter the thread when its not a good thing for the game. Just know that I am actively looking for scum and as of now I am looking at you carefully to determine you either way. A town Rayn is a great thing but a mafia one is a shitty thing.
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On May 19 2019 22:38 Calix wrote:
Hi.
HF/ Jock said a lot of what I was going to say so I don't have much new to add. They're currently my top town-reads because of that and I'm happy to sheep them.
I like WBG's #220, that looks like a post a townie would make when they're trying to be reasonable and not just jump down their suspect's throat.
Personally, I don't like how rayn has been acting during his latest interaction with Jock. Jock's been on the offensive and looking really townie while rayn's responses have been lacking.
(I don't care about the role stuff. It has nothing to do with my vote)
##vote raynpelikoneet
On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix
On May 20 2019 06:49 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 06:41 Holyflare wrote:On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix Please elaborate on specifics on when Calix did these things so that I can cross reference what you actually mean and if it's bs or not. Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 22:38 Calix wrote:
Hi.
HF/ Jock said a lot of what I was going to say so I don't have much new to add. They're currently my top town-reads because of that and I'm happy to sheep them.
I like WBG's #220, that looks like a post a townie would make when they're trying to be reasonable and not just jump down their suspect's throat.
Personally, I don't like how rayn has been acting during his latest interaction with Jock. Jock's been on the offensive and looking really townie while rayn's responses have been lacking.
(I don't care about the role stuff. It has nothing to do with my vote)
##vote raynpelikoneet this post right here it almost makes me wanna vomit how artificial it is
gonna post these now as I feel current trend has gone away from them. So lets talk about it!
Also, Bugs and VE
On May 19 2019 22:07 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2019 21:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 19 2019 21:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 19 2019 21:13 Holyflare wrote:On May 19 2019 21:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 19 2019 20:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Rayn, what was the plan behind it? No plan. I just thought it would be fun. So you're telling me you went to the past game, copied your post and changed like 50% of the words AND the order when you could have just simply typed out the sentence instead? That's really the line you're going with lol? Yes. Do you think i believe any host ever words VT "town vanilla" lol??? Well actually maybe you of all people do...  I mean this is the whole point of the case. Holyflare can actually brainfart and believe this is true and definitely is shameless enough to write shit like that. So nothing much to say about him. Jock is probably just new enough to idk just sheep and not think further. Gut says town becaise it would just give him more to talk about if he was just being right. Bugs should know better. Artanis and VE are being smart, which doesnt surprise me. At least VE is most likely friend. Latest posts say Artanis might be too. Is anyone suspicious to you yet rayn??
It seems like you're only defending yourself by telling people to play better instead of calling people out you think are being scummy.
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On May 20 2019 07:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
BC, on Jock’s post, I don’t remember if it occurred after my post on rayn or before, the one that Calix said they liked (which was 220 IIRC) but basically I agreed with Jock’s assessment.
Comparing to last game and based on what Jock said post-game I think his posts here are within the bands of what I’d expect for a reasonable town adjustment. My read there is not strong but I do think what rayn has said about him is completely wrong. I’d suggest reading the first few pages without filter diving and see what conclusion you come up with. I’m particularly curious if you think town-rayn would come to the same conclusion and whether you think the aggression is real.
Didn't see this before i made my last post so dont need to repeat yourself.
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On May 20 2019 07:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay. idk what i did except for push my scum read. If you see me and HF as the "same" he does that same thing for different reasons, with less confirmation. I am just trying to get my scumread lynched, if that's what you dislike then.... well whatever. I know you read Jock mafia aswell, i just dont understand how you come up with a different opinion on me atm just because how i did it, and not why.
You reason for Jock and Mine are completely different. I have a scum lean but not strong enough that Im happy with.
Bugs has given me currently the best answer to jock if that helps you understand my thought process at all.
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and by best answer, he answered what I was actually looking for.
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On May 20 2019 07:55 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 07:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why would you kill a townie that wants to lynch mafia? You know he’s town? btw I didn’t see anyone else mention this and I’m sad because I wanted a free town read so I’ll just come out and say it myself VE used activity to paint iGrok scummy based on him being replaced last game but actually iGrok was town last game, replaced by slam. I can’t point out the post now because I’m on mobile but 99.999% sure VE’s post was saying this. Seems like it might have just been an honest mistake but VE is quite sharp
Id say if Igrok gets replaced again it would be more of an indication VE is has a read on it. If Igrok comes out being more active he might revise his read?
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ill be back in like 5-6 ish hours. Doing some family stuff.
Please for the love of god dont turn this thread into a shitshow in the meantime though
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Honestly bugs as the person who linked the ruxxar post you jumped on as a vote im not going to "sheep you" hes already on my fucking mafia list for his shit. Fuck, his re entry to this thread is also disgustingly bad since then.
between him and Calix I think we have a guarenteed mafia (possibly 2, not ruling it out).
Disinformation really needs to step it up, but based on day 1 screams scum as of the moment.
Now. I know you all hate Rayn for screaming at the top of his lungs about killing jock. You both have (VE and Bugs) has said nothing strikes you as strange however. After reading
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/544405-fibonacci-mafia?user=Jockmcplop
I am a little suspect. Not going to say hes a priority as of right now, but there is a shot of a real hit based purely on this. I find it unlikely (not impossible) that someone could roll town 3 games in a row and completely change their playstyle 3 games in a row.
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Again, im not saying kill jock as of right now. What I am saying is this. Keep an eye on him. The reason the post of his I quoted earlier i said was the "scummiest thing" he has done is a few reasons
A) Outside Rayn he has basically done dick fuck all
B) for a completely new player to change their meta so much with the same alignment 3 games in a row is shady.
Basically hes a good cop check?
Ruxxar, Calix and Disinformation to me are higher in likelyhood to strike red.
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I also want more out of Artanis, Igrok and Koshi. But they are all players id like substance of some sort to make an opinion on either way given that they are basically all non posters atm
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Older people get the worse their work schedules or other life commitments may be as well. I used to have way more time for games and whatnot when I was younger. Like fuck, I had all this weekend off and still didnt have time til like 20 hours had passed or some nonsense to play based purely on life.
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Honestly I am kinda happy to see Koshi's play by post play as he catches up.
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On May 20 2019 16:41 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 16:31 Jockmcplop wrote:
What does everyone think about lynching a lurker or someone that is AFK?
I know people in general on here tend to be against policy lynches like that but in the game I played as mafia the way mafia won was by literally not posting (mostly) for the first few days. Is that the standard mafia meta here?
Because if so, iGrok is a great vote.
Otherwise I wouldn't really vote for him based off what he has posted, just what he hasn't posted. So it doesn't get lost. Anyone wanna talk about lynching a lurker?
given that the lurkers in this game more or less (so far)
are like
Disinformation
Ruxxar
Calix
and like
Conversion
are in that list more or less im semi fine with that? But only because most of the people lurking thus far are people i already want to hang.
If you are so unsure with the current thread trend and who to lynch id almost say rng it instead.
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On May 20 2019 16:55 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 14:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Again, im not saying kill jock as of right now. What I am saying is this. Keep an eye on him. The reason the post of his I quoted earlier i said was the "scummiest thing" he has done is a few reasons
A) Outside Rayn he has basically done dick fuck all
B) for a completely new player to change their meta so much with the same alignment 3 games in a row is shady.
Basically hes a good cop check?
Ruxxar, Calix and Disinformation to me are higher in likelyhood to strike red. Just out of interest bobby do you accept my explanation as to why i have changed my meta so drastically in the first few games?? I would have no need to change my meta if i was mafia, as the only game I have won so far was as mafia. My first two town games were both horrible mistakes - which is why i have deliberately changed my playstyle. I just don't want you to be suspicious of me based off that. I had a very, very solid reason to change the way i was playing when i instantly died in my first two town games. WOuldn't that make you want to change your playstyle? I also explained that the adjustments that I have made were due to reading along with the last game. Can you see how the things that were successful in the last game for town are influencing the way I am playing now?
You are still more nullish read to me. Again I want to see more? If you are town me watching for a bit to get a solid read on you. Dont want to repeat last game.
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On May 20 2019 16:58 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 16:56 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 16:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 20 2019 16:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 16:31 Jockmcplop wrote:
What does everyone think about lynching a lurker or someone that is AFK?
I know people in general on here tend to be against policy lynches like that but in the game I played as mafia the way mafia won was by literally not posting (mostly) for the first few days. Is that the standard mafia meta here?
Because if so, iGrok is a great vote.
Otherwise I wouldn't really vote for him based off what he has posted, just what he hasn't posted. So it doesn't get lost. Anyone wanna talk about lynching a lurker? given that the lurkers in this game more or less (so far) are like Disinformation Ruxxar Calix and like Conversion are in that list more or less im semi fine with that? But only because most of the people lurking thus far are people i already want to hang. If you are so unsure with the current thread trend and who to lynch id almost say rng it instead. Do'nt forget iGrock. But yeah, that list of lurkers looks like SOLID pickings for a lynch. In fact, why would you leave iGrock out of that list? Did you forget, because I mentioned him the post that I quoted.
Tbh Igrock gets a pass atm, along with artanis as they are names i recognize and would rather be sure on alignment before killing them. not saying they aren't mafia, just saying they both more or less look inactive as fuck and not like lurkers.
Plus I far more prefer offing people in the list I listed. All of them scream scum for a reason here or there, and all of it after the stupidity of the first few pages / shit with rayn.
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On May 20 2019 17:08 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 17:04 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 20 2019 16:58 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 16:56 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 16:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 20 2019 16:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 16:31 Jockmcplop wrote:
What does everyone think about lynching a lurker or someone that is AFK?
I know people in general on here tend to be against policy lynches like that but in the game I played as mafia the way mafia won was by literally not posting (mostly) for the first few days. Is that the standard mafia meta here?
Because if so, iGrok is a great vote.
Otherwise I wouldn't really vote for him based off what he has posted, just what he hasn't posted. So it doesn't get lost. Anyone wanna talk about lynching a lurker? given that the lurkers in this game more or less (so far) are like Disinformation Ruxxar Calix and like Conversion are in that list more or less im semi fine with that? But only because most of the people lurking thus far are people i already want to hang. If you are so unsure with the current thread trend and who to lynch id almost say rng it instead. Do'nt forget iGrock. But yeah, that list of lurkers looks like SOLID pickings for a lynch. In fact, why would you leave iGrock out of that list? Did you forget, because I mentioned him the post that I quoted. Tbh Igrock gets a pass atm, along with artanis as they are names i recognize and would rather be sure on alignment before killing them. not saying they aren't mafia, just saying they both more or less look inactive as fuck and not like lurkers. Plus I far more prefer offing people in the list I listed. All of them scream scum for a reason here or there, and all of it after the stupidity of the first few pages / shit with rayn. Hmmm.... Not a fan of this reasoning but I'll let it pass for now. Can you explain to me why recongizable names (I assume that means people you have played with a few times before) means you don't want to vote for them based of inactivity?
mainly due to it backfiring on me in the past. Offing a recognizable name before they have an opportunity to damn themselves can backfire royally and fuck the town out of a resource. Now, if I thought they had said something that screams super scum to me id be down, but as of yet I don't have anything besides a null read. Why off a null read when I have mafia reads?
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