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On May 22 2019 20:37 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 20:21 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2019 19:54 disformation wrote:bleh. -.- On May 22 2019 19:32 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 22 2019 19:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Calix and VE liking the BC case and then never actually moving their vote when they didn't seem convinced by the leading wagons makes my boner to lynch all of them that much harder. Ah you’re here for only two hours right? So this is my only chance Two things I’d like you to explain: 1. If BC and VE are scum why was BC willing to help me push VE? And why would VE say that BC was buddying me/not actually believing in the case on VE himself if they’re both scum? 2. Why would either Calix or VE vote BC at EOD when igrok reached the lead? They seemed far more into killing iGrok than BC 3. Where is disformation? i am here. though tired and at work. On May 22 2019 19:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Confirmed town:
Jockmcplop
Town:
Holyflare
Conversion
Koshi
Townish:
Raynpelikoneet
Null:
iGrok
wherebugsgo
Scummish:
Calix
VisceraEyes
Lynch with fire:
The Cobbler
AMA. bc: totes scum calix, ve: totes scum for saying they like the case but refusing to vote disfo: only guy to vote totes scum and only other guy to at least try to get ppl to vote bc: *insert tumbleweed gif* not sure if that makes you scum, but I feel kinda insulted -.- I have been calling a bc/calix lynch since calix posted and bc was calling a ruxxar lynch over calix lynch. So pls gooby not exactly my point. my point is: art is basing two of his scumreads entirely on their reactions/actions to his bc read. and then forgets the only dude voting with him.
I know what your point was.
But you lied making your point.
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On May 22 2019 20:38 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 20:37 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 20:31 disformation wrote:On May 22 2019 20:16 Calix wrote:
Also can someone tell me why iGrok decides to vote for HF at EOD? Earlier he justified his vote on me partly because 'HF my top scum read isn't getting lynched' but then he leaves a lone vote on HF despite literally nobody wanting to lynch him at EOD. No way he could've thought HF was going to die when nobody had mentioned him.
It's even worse because this was when I was a wagon? [because he apparently scum-reads me again but not really, who the fuck even understood that part of the chat]
It looks horrible. oh he is going for a logic attempt. let me try to translate and see if it makes sense: On May 22 2019 10:16 iGrok wrote:
[...]
So if at least one of calix and ruxx are town, that means that HF has to be scum. On May 22 2019 10:21 iGrok wrote:
Seriously, I think the logic there is pretty straightforward, but to reiterate:
Calix and Ruxx are not both mafia, because mafia would not bus a teammate when the votes are close like this.
Ruxx and HF aren't both mafia because Ruxxar called HF on some shit that most other people didn't, it was a weird attack when HF was not seeing any real pressure.
Calix and HF aren't both mafia because HF looked like he was trying to set up a wagon on Calix earlier.
so what this means is:
If you think that any one of HF, Calix, or Ruxx are mafia, it has to be HF
On May 22 2019 10:41 iGrok wrote:
Lol, Calix and HF on "INDEPENDENT TERMS" are red.
The weakest of those assertions is the Calix/HF one, because HF switched off calix fairly quickly. Why you're attacking the ruxx/hf assertion doesn't make sense. In your words, "Come the fuck on".
Ruxxar's filter is filled with brief periods of activity which go like this: "I'm back, here's a quick summary, some filler posts, bye". H's acting like a dude who doesn't have a whole lot of time to put into writing up stuff, but he is clearly reading based on his quotes in his posts. Not everyone spams like You, HF, Koshi, or VE. On May 22 2019 10:56 iGrok wrote:
C OR R==TOWN
C OR H==TOWN
H OR R==TOWN
R != H
C AND H AND R==MAFIA
Forgot that part read: one of calix, ruxxar is town one of calix, hf is town one of ruxxar, hf is town ruxxar has a different alignment from hf one of ruxxar, hf, calix scum so he is basically saying "all 3 of them look super scummy to me, but it makes no sense for them to be a team, so lemme look for the one that is most likely scum and afk my vote there" Fair play on the whole 'they're not on a team so clearly I fucked up somewhere' part. But if he thinks there's mafia between HF and myself then it still makes more sense to just re-vote me since I actually had votes and if I'm mafia then great, if I'm town then HF is scum, etc. Especially since he thinks one of us is scum still. yeah. the progression or read kinda makes sense if you think from his pov. but i also agree with you that i am not a fan of him parking the vote again on hf, after earlier being like "cant get him lynched anyways". but then i dont think anyone was in thread, so it prolly didnt super matter anyways?
STOP TALKING TO THE MAFIA AS IF IT IS A PERSON.
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On May 22 2019 20:41 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 20:38 disformation wrote:On May 22 2019 20:37 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 20:31 disformation wrote:On May 22 2019 20:16 Calix wrote:
Also can someone tell me why iGrok decides to vote for HF at EOD? Earlier he justified his vote on me partly because 'HF my top scum read isn't getting lynched' but then he leaves a lone vote on HF despite literally nobody wanting to lynch him at EOD. No way he could've thought HF was going to die when nobody had mentioned him.
It's even worse because this was when I was a wagon? [because he apparently scum-reads me again but not really, who the fuck even understood that part of the chat]
It looks horrible. oh he is going for a logic attempt. let me try to translate and see if it makes sense: On May 22 2019 10:16 iGrok wrote:
[...]
So if at least one of calix and ruxx are town, that means that HF has to be scum. On May 22 2019 10:21 iGrok wrote:
Seriously, I think the logic there is pretty straightforward, but to reiterate:
Calix and Ruxx are not both mafia, because mafia would not bus a teammate when the votes are close like this.
Ruxx and HF aren't both mafia because Ruxxar called HF on some shit that most other people didn't, it was a weird attack when HF was not seeing any real pressure.
Calix and HF aren't both mafia because HF looked like he was trying to set up a wagon on Calix earlier.
so what this means is:
If you think that any one of HF, Calix, or Ruxx are mafia, it has to be HF
On May 22 2019 10:41 iGrok wrote:
Lol, Calix and HF on "INDEPENDENT TERMS" are red.
The weakest of those assertions is the Calix/HF one, because HF switched off calix fairly quickly. Why you're attacking the ruxx/hf assertion doesn't make sense. In your words, "Come the fuck on".
Ruxxar's filter is filled with brief periods of activity which go like this: "I'm back, here's a quick summary, some filler posts, bye". H's acting like a dude who doesn't have a whole lot of time to put into writing up stuff, but he is clearly reading based on his quotes in his posts. Not everyone spams like You, HF, Koshi, or VE. On May 22 2019 10:56 iGrok wrote:
C OR R==TOWN
C OR H==TOWN
H OR R==TOWN
R != H
C AND H AND R==MAFIA
Forgot that part read: one of calix, ruxxar is town one of calix, hf is town one of ruxxar, hf is town ruxxar has a different alignment from hf one of ruxxar, hf, calix scum so he is basically saying "all 3 of them look super scummy to me, but it makes no sense for them to be a team, so lemme look for the one that is most likely scum and afk my vote there" Fair play on the whole 'they're not on a team so clearly I fucked up somewhere' part. But if he thinks there's mafia between HF and myself then it still makes more sense to just re-vote me since I actually had votes and if I'm mafia then great, if I'm town then HF is scum, etc. Especially since he thinks one of us is scum still. yeah. the progression or read kinda makes sense if you think from his pov. but i also agree with you that i am not a fan of him parking the vote again on hf, after earlier being like "cant get him lynched anyways". but then i dont think anyone was in thread, so it prolly didnt super matter anyways? Whether it 'mattered or not' isn't really the point though. As for your Artanis thing, is forgetting to include a name in a basic reads list that has no reasoning attached actually scummy?
*Insert random question that pretend shows I am scumhunting but instead shows I am not thinking about the game myself and really dislike to analyse situations and make conclusions about them. Not to speak of forcing my conclusions on the thread like every fucking townie does from time to time*
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On May 22 2019 05:57 Koshi wrote:
1. BloodyC0bble
4. HolyFlare
8. iGrok
11. disformation
12. Arty Mctanis
13. Calix
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Did you ever give 6 names hf?
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Calix 99%
Bloody 75%
Hf 55%
Rest of 71% over the other 3.
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On May 22 2019 21:16 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 21:03 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2019 05:57 Koshi wrote:
1. BloodyC0bble
4. HolyFlare
8. iGrok
11. disformation
12. Arty Mctanis
13. Calix aight. what do you think about the grok read progression i pointed out? not sure about your progression on grok. think you were like "oh hes town... no wait hes on my list" yesterday. Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 21:05 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 22 2019 20:58 disformation wrote:
he is pretty unchill.
but can be town!koshi being super annoyed at kinda getting ignored all game you mentioned earlier in the game he had reads you disagreed with and didn't know how to read him because of that is that still true or are you more aligned on reads now? well the big thing koshi and me seem to agree on is bc. that is good and i like that. otherwise for the most part and we having pretty much disagreeing opinions? though to be honest, after yesterday's lynch i might be more willing to see a world where koshi is smart town and i am dumb town, so ill prolly take a look at calix and hf again and see if i can see what koshi is seeing.
Grok has always been on my list.
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On May 22 2019 21:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 21:29 Holyflare wrote:On May 22 2019 21:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like why doesnt he just vote for ruxxar if he scumreads ruxxar lol? Because he knows he's town?? What is this reasoning even? :o
I also laughed. And it is 2 people saying it.
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Mafia do things to look horrible and stand out from the pack.
Mafia 101
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On May 22 2019 21:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Conversion has actually a decent chance of being mafia, even with Calix.
Mehhhhhhhhhh
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On May 22 2019 21:39 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 21:30 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2019 21:16 disformation wrote:On May 22 2019 21:03 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2019 05:57 Koshi wrote:
1. BloodyC0bble
4. HolyFlare
8. iGrok
11. disformation
12. Arty Mctanis
13. Calix aight. what do you think about the grok read progression i pointed out? not sure about your progression on grok. think you were like "oh hes town... no wait hes on my list" yesterday. On May 22 2019 21:05 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 22 2019 20:58 disformation wrote:
he is pretty unchill.
but can be town!koshi being super annoyed at kinda getting ignored all game you mentioned earlier in the game he had reads you disagreed with and didn't know how to read him because of that is that still true or are you more aligned on reads now? well the big thing koshi and me seem to agree on is bc. that is good and i like that. otherwise for the most part and we having pretty much disagreeing opinions? though to be honest, after yesterday's lynch i might be more willing to see a world where koshi is smart town and i am dumb town, so ill prolly take a look at calix and hf again and see if i can see what koshi is seeing. Grok has always been on my list. what in the Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 18:20 Koshi wrote:On May 20 2019 18:13 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 18:12 Koshi wrote:On May 20 2019 18:11 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 18:10 Koshi wrote:On May 20 2019 06:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:honestly thought this was going to start you know, not when it did. As I am just finishing the catch up so far. Anyone who liked the fact HF started the vote train and swing onto rayn based off the Town Vanilla post should be shooting HF with a gun. Why? Because HF claims / fake claims shit every fucking game and gets pissed if you lynch him off it. If someones whos moto is to be a troll with claims decides to start any form of suspicion on someone for any style of claim he deserves to be doused in fire and die. Now. If you voted for Rayn for anything after his claim and before Calix appeared in the thread, you are in the clear for now. Calix imo screams fucking mafia. His first post, Which I will quote here just to bring it back to the forefront On May 19 2019 22:38 Calix wrote:
Hi.
HF/ Jock said a lot of what I was going to say so I don't have much new to add. They're currently my top town-reads because of that and I'm happy to sheep them.
I like WBG's #220, that looks like a post a townie would make when they're trying to be reasonable and not just jump down their suspect's throat.
Personally, I don't like how rayn has been acting during his latest interaction with Jock. Jock's been on the offensive and looking really townie while rayn's responses have been lacking.
(I don't care about the role stuff. It has nothing to do with my vote)
##vote raynpelikoneet this post is extremely fucking scummy. His entire post screams thread sentiment while offering nothing new, gives a shitty reason to drop a vote. He "red" reads rayn for being lacking while his entire post is lacking anything but "certainty" then spends the rest of his time basically doing nothing aside from "keep voting rayn" while offering nothing new before vanishing. VE does raise a good point on Igrok however before we decide to fully opt that route we should wait for him to get back from being gone all day on a plane to post anything to get a better idea. I am fine with putting him on the likely red list for now but I feel like its fine to give the man a few more posts before damning him given what he has posted thus far. Also this is being quoted for anyone who bothers to think on it. I feel it will give me / anyone with brains proper reads on eachother this game. On May 19 2019 22:07 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 19 2019 21:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 19 2019 21:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:[quote] Yes. Do you think i believe any host ever words VT "town vanilla" lol??? Well actually maybe you of all people do...  I mean this is the whole point of the case. Holyflare can actually brainfart and believe this is true and definitely is shameless enough to write shit like that. So nothing much to say about him. Jock is probably just new enough to idk just sheep and not think further. Gut says town becaise it would just give him more to talk about if he was just being right. Bugs should know better. Artanis and VE are being smart, which doesnt surprise me. At least VE is most likely friend. Latest posts say Artanis might be too. Is anyone suspicious to you yet rayn?? It seems like you're only defending yourself by telling people to play better instead of calling people out you think are being scummy. Welcome to smart town. PS: also mafia reside in smart town. So you're saying that everyone who is playing smart could be town or mafia, and everyone who is playing stupid could be town or mafia. Welcome to pointless town, where every post is pointless. Tis true. Except smart people are smart. Its true but pointless as I said, to say it. Everyone could be town of mafia. Making a bunch of post to point that out seems kinda like you're wasting everyone's time - no matter how true it is. Lol waste time. Tldr of all my posts so far: ... iGrok I dont understand the case about. ... Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 04:11 Koshi wrote:
Igrok thinks bc, Calix and hf are mafia. Looks good. Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 07:00 Koshi wrote:
iGrok if you get yourself lunched over 100% Calix and 85% mafia BC.... Sad days bro. Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 07:06 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2019 07:05 Calix wrote:
Hey Koshi, you'd literally be more helpful if you shut the fuck up and vote for BC instead. Since I'm probably not getting lynched at this point. And you'd actually be voting for mafia then. Ohh now he is mafia. When momentum swings to iGrok and you will do everyrhing for it to stay there. Oki Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 07:06 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2019 07:06 Conversion wrote:
I have no time to catch up atm— preparing for an interview tomorrow and flying out Thursday for another one. did no one like my Koshi case? I’ll revisit both Koshi and disfo if I can.
who are leading wagons, and who should I case and who should I have an opinion on? Dont vote igrok he is town. Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 07:11 Koshi wrote:
I forgot my own list but dnu why I am here. It's mafia only. Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 07:13 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2019 05:57 Koshi wrote:
1. BloodyC0bble
4. HolyFlare
8. iGrok
11. disformation
12. Arty Mctanis
13. Calix
My 6 candidates after D1. Bit afraid for Ruxxar maybe? I hesitated the most there.
And rayn I don't consider till d3. Oh wait. iGrok is on the list? Weird. Than I will just wait on flip. Dont think he can be mafia knowing my 5 other mafia reads are voting him bit w.e. Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 07:14 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2019 07:13 disformation wrote:
joshi: you could also try to explain why you think igrok is town?
only thing i remember is that you two had similar reads at one point. Look list. Look people pushing igrok. Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 15:55 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2019 09:50 iGrok wrote:
Still not sure between you and HF, but one of you is scum. Alternatively, HF made a +2 level play and you both are, but that’s... unlikely. Josh I, Convo, disinformation, and rayn are pretty green. I think disinfo is just going with ruxxar to get something done, and the other three votes on him are mixed signals at best. And while I did initially have ruxxar as red, he did make a good post that put him back to null for me. So I’m ok with ruxxar but I’d still rather have a better target if I can.
Outside of you and HF, Artanis is my next lowest read right now, but I don’t think that’s likely to happen. Anyone who thinks it could though, speak up and let’s talk about it Tip top town.
Quoting me makes you look intelligent wbg
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On May 22 2019 21:43 Holyflare wrote:
Yeah, I know. If you give me my lynch tomorrow I will fully listen to all of you after that.
Afkers and morons left by then.
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On May 22 2019 22:18 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 21:43 Holyflare wrote:
Yeah, I know. If you give me my lynch tomorrow I will fully listen to all of you after that. Afkers and morons left by then.
Hmm this comment might save me.
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On May 22 2019 22:19 Holyflare wrote:
Koshi if you think I'm mafia why are you letting me freely talk and bend people around to lynch who I want?
I reckon you don't think I'm mafia but you're too afraid to say it :D
Maybe. I am missing 1 mafia and you are too nice this game. And you are pretending to be intelligent.
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On May 21 2019 17:52 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 17:50 Holyflare wrote:On May 21 2019 17:43 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 21 2019 17:37 Holyflare wrote:
Personally, I think ruxxar was perfectly correct to call me mafia. I had a high burst of activity and then have completely waffled and disappeared as people get more active.
What I don't like is that it was opportunistic. He'd town read me before afaik, arbitrarily decided that between rayn and I that I somehow became mafia and then wrote the narrative on me.
He dropped all his other reads for that too. Essentially I'm the lynch bait currently and he took it. Who else is he supposed to push to look good other than a high profile sitting duck that people can't disagree with his read on? Why are you not responding to me I find this analysis weird though, why on earth do you think you’re the lynch bait here? If anything it’s Calix or disformation. I agree that it’s a scum vote but I think it’s more a vote in line with “if I vote HF here no one will believe I’d have the balls to do that as scum” because you weren’t on any radars and weren’t likely to be lynched given the vote spread He has consistently just disappeared after every short burst of activity and his “progressions” are just odd. As you pointed out he just completely dropped the Calix/conversion business; what happened to one of them being scum? He also had a set up into calling BC scum but dropped that too. No idea why he mentions rayn in his post on you either, just seems like a forced mention especially because rayn was nearly completely absent for 24 hours. Sorry what was I supposed to respond to? I am the perfect lynch bait. I could make a case on myself for being mafia. High activity poking on rayn to blow up into low activity keeping options open when everyone becomes active? I'm the mafia dream to push. Nobody can really argue with that. Push back on calix/conversion etc is all because they have blurred lines, nothing to sway one way or the other. Are you going to help kill ruxxar?? I honestly don’t think iGrok is scum here. Scum basically has to be in: Ruxxar VE rayn Koshi Almost everyone else has a few or loads of town points in favour
Quoted for good laughs.
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Did bugs also want to solve the game so badly last game? I didnt read shit there.
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Bugs can you make a >75% town list?
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EPT
