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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 24 2019 17:42 GMT
#3441
Like, this is getting ridiculous igrok. Even if you're mafia, post your read list and interact for the remainder of your lunch. I know you're going to drop a post and disappear again so don't do that because it's in your best interest either way
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9650 Posts
May 24 2019 17:43 GMT
#3442
On May 25 2019 02:38 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 02:36 Jockmcplop wrote:
Yo hf what do you think of BC?
You spent ages reading him but didn't really say what you thought at the end of it just something about Art saying a thing about BC and Koshi..


Nah I stopped reading him and got bored again so I'm taking a break while I wait for igrok. There was a lot of wrong stuff I saw him posting about and I think it would be easy to actually make a case about him being mafia but his meta is very very different, even from the civil game he was mafia in.


Didn't that happen with calix as well???
You might as well stop trying and just concentrate on your one read
RIP Meatloaf <3
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 24 2019 17:44 GMT
#3443
On May 25 2019 02:43 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 02:38 Holyflare wrote:
On May 25 2019 02:36 Jockmcplop wrote:
Yo hf what do you think of BC?
You spent ages reading him but didn't really say what you thought at the end of it just something about Art saying a thing about BC and Koshi..


Nah I stopped reading him and got bored again so I'm taking a break while I wait for igrok. There was a lot of wrong stuff I saw him posting about and I think it would be easy to actually make a case about him being mafia but his meta is very very different, even from the civil game he was mafia in.


Didn't that happen with calix as well???
You might as well stop trying and just concentrate on your one read


Yeah I lost a lot of passion when the game gets boring not interacting with scum reads.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 24 2019 17:45 GMT
#3444
Whatever this rayn guy is doing is a bit silly though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 24 2019 17:46 GMT
#3445
Could be mafia depending on what he says.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 17:46 GMT
#3446
On May 25 2019 02:45 Holyflare wrote:
Whatever this rayn guy is doing is a bit silly though.

but not mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 24 2019 17:47 GMT
#3447
On May 25 2019 02:35 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 02:28 disformation wrote:
image explanation/variation of b):
On May 24 2019 22:00 Holyflare wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Timeline


This one's easy, but you won't like the answer. Based on #246, I thought VE picked up on why I fake-voted for rayn, which I did for reasons that I'm not allowed to talk about. VE had 4 hidden hidden points (and still does, after D1 I don't think I need hidden thoughts). Two of those are green.

that... is indeed not the possible answer i had in mind.
On May 25 2019 02:44 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 02:43 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 25 2019 02:38 Holyflare wrote:
On May 25 2019 02:36 Jockmcplop wrote:
Yo hf what do you think of BC?
You spent ages reading him but didn't really say what you thought at the end of it just something about Art saying a thing about BC and Koshi..


Nah I stopped reading him and got bored again so I'm taking a break while I wait for igrok. There was a lot of wrong stuff I saw him posting about and I think it would be easy to actually make a case about him being mafia but his meta is very very different, even from the civil game he was mafia in.


Didn't that happen with calix as well???
You might as well stop trying and just concentrate on your one read


Yeah I lost a lot of passion when the game gets boring not interacting with scum reads.

also have the most fun when im in thread interacting with yall.

so going home. and dinner and stuff. mayhaps laundry.
will prolly be back later, cause this game is too addicting.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 24 2019 17:47 GMT
#3448
K
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 17:47 GMT
#3449
On May 25 2019 01:36 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 00:59 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty sure I even gave my 6 before the jock event.

your first list with 6 ppl is imo that one:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 05:57 Koshi wrote:
1. BloodyC0bble
4. HolyFlare
8. iGrok
11. disformation
12. Arty Mctanis
13. Calix

My 6 candidates after D1. Bit afraid for Ruxxar maybe? I hesitated the most there.
And rayn I don't consider till d3.

jock became town jesus before that

sad days btw
I had a good night of sleep.
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 24 2019 17:51 GMT
#3450
Popping in a bit for lunch. I'm just not going to acknowledge HF because frankly its exhausting. 21 pages on D2? Really?

I'll see if I can post my full list. Its weirdly formatted in that I'd have to reformat everything if I wanted to post it in TL with indents and colors. Maybe I can stitch a picture.

My "confirmed town" reads right now are (sorry guys, this basically dooms you lol), Koshi, Conv, and disinfo. Pretty sure Rayn is town as well, and calix I find scummy but logically dont think is mafia.

People are going to pull out one of my first statements, which was the "I'm not finished reading but initial gut feeling is rux/disinfo scummy", but like... I haven't thought disinfo was possibly mafia since he pointed out my logical inconsistency with HF/calix. There's just no way that mafia does that. I get that disinfo still thinks I'm mafia but idgaf, he's confirmed town.
+ Show Spoiler +
There is one possible exception to this which is that disinfo and HF are scum together, but that really doesn't seem likely, so i'm not considering it until I get more evidence.


I think Conv is confirmed town because #806 and tone reasons. He doesn't post a ton but when he does its typically meaningful. Sounds exactly like a townie who started strong but is getting overwhelmed with the sheer amount of spam in the game, which I can completely empathize with.

Koshi is confirmed town to me because his reads match mine, and it seemed like he was reading me pretty well. He was on my case early, and up until #560 he basically had no meaningful posts. He's never been afraid to call out BS when he sees it, like #2962, pointed out that there was a bunch of doubt being generated about my posting habits. The dude just completely mirrors my thoughts about most reads. I guess now he's leaning me as possible scum, but that doesn't change my read of him.

Rayn I'm pretty sure is town because he made what is, in my memory, the most town rayn play: shit up the thread D1 early to generate activity to generate reads, find someone he thinks is mafia, call everyone else dumb for not getting it, and stops playing until he gets another mafia read.



The rest:

BC is a complete null to me. Don't have a single idea where he is.
Bugs I'm leaning town on.
HF is obviously mafia.
VE I'm not sure. Lots of points, haven't contextualized them well yet.
Jock is also null, same deal. Some town some scum, especially the domino lynch proposal is just never a good idea.
Artanis is leaning scum, but I haven't paid much attention to him D2.
Calix's early game felt real bad, but I'm convinced on HF and also don't think Calix and HF can both be scum.




I'll see about stitching my read list into a big image. Honestly if anyone expects me to spam instead of posting fewer, longer posts, you've never played with me.
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 24 2019 17:53 GMT
#3451
Oh, and while ordinarily I wouldn't say "you're defending me so you're clearly not mafia" is good logic, I'm such an easy lynch that it doesn't make sense to defend me if you are. You dont even have to attack me, just let me die. Koshi's not doing that.
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 24 2019 17:54 GMT
#3452
Colour me incredibly underwhelmed in your read list please.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 24 2019 17:54 GMT
#3453
Okay so I'm open to the idea that I've just been wrong about rayn this whole time. I've had to disagree with like every reason he's given for his reads...not like, WHOLLY disagree, but disagree with the level of certainty that these things provide rayn. I've written it off to his playstyle up until now, but frankly with this his most recent Top 10 Anime Betrayal of HF, I'm left thinking maybe I'm the one being fooled here. Maybe he's trying to emulate his town-play as mafia with all this crazy certainty? It's DEFINITELY in his wheelhouse.

Someone like HF with loads of meta weigh in. Has rayn's certainty up to now been within his normal town-rayn range of certainty - to - bad reasoning?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 24 2019 17:56 GMT
#3454
Rayn I'm pretty sure is town because he made what is, in my memory, the most town rayn play: shit up the thread D1 early to generate activity to generate reads, find someone he thinks is mafia, call everyone else dumb for not getting it, and stops playing until he gets another mafia read.


Like what the fuck does this even say? It was rayn's intentional play to get mad and really sad and demotivated? Not my play to fake case rayn to get everyone to talk and make reads?

What part of rayn shitting up the thread generated his reads on Jock which were solely based on posts I was making and jock was sheeping?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 17:57 GMT
#3455
On May 25 2019 02:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay so I'm open to the idea that I've just been wrong about rayn this whole time. I've had to disagree with like every reason he's given for his reads...not like, WHOLLY disagree, but disagree with the level of certainty that these things provide rayn. I've written it off to his playstyle up until now, but frankly with this his most recent Top 10 Anime Betrayal of HF, I'm left thinking maybe I'm the one being fooled here. Maybe he's trying to emulate his town-play as mafia with all this crazy certainty? It's DEFINITELY in his wheelhouse.

Someone like HF with loads of meta weigh in. Has rayn's certainty up to now been within his normal town-rayn range of certainty - to - bad reasoning?

rayn mafia game in the past was always say what the thread will say but 5 hourd before that.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 17:58 GMT
#3456
Anyway. igrok obv town.

But baddies wont listen to me and rayn so w.e
I had a good night of sleep.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 24 2019 17:58 GMT
#3457
I'll say that I found his certainty about his Calix read to be the most unfortunate - my read of the situation was that the game he linked would have made Calix MORE confident in her ability to read HF Town and her ability to find Mafia Rayn, not less. Rayn says that because she would be LESS confident, her read has to be fake/made up...but like I said, that's not the read I got off the game he linked.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9650 Posts
May 24 2019 17:58 GMT
#3458
On May 25 2019 02:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay so I'm open to the idea that I've just been wrong about rayn this whole time. I've had to disagree with like every reason he's given for his reads...not like, WHOLLY disagree, but disagree with the level of certainty that these things provide rayn. I've written it off to his playstyle up until now, but frankly with this his most recent Top 10 Anime Betrayal of HF, I'm left thinking maybe I'm the one being fooled here. Maybe he's trying to emulate his town-play as mafia with all this crazy certainty? It's DEFINITELY in his wheelhouse.

Someone like HF with loads of meta weigh in. Has rayn's certainty up to now been within his normal town-rayn range of certainty - to - bad reasoning?


I would like to filter dive rayn but I am not Amanda Young.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 24 2019 17:58 GMT
#3459
What do you scum read me for igrok? Definitively. I want a list. Everyone in this game has corrected you that you are wrong about my opportune posting and that's just what I do. Why has your read not fluidly updated with that?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2019 17:58 GMT
#3460
Maybe VE is mafia and this is a VE/hf tandem but I am not seeing it.

I think chances are higher townies are just wrong on iGrok.
I had a good night of sleep.
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