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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10021 Posts
May 25 2019 15:26 GMT
#4175
At this point I don't need to pressure artan
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10021 Posts
May 25 2019 15:27 GMT
#4177
...cont
Artanis right? He's just gna die so it's up to him to do the work
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10021 Posts
May 25 2019 15:32 GMT
#4185
I literally can't my dude
I said yesterday I'm not really here this weekend
I've got maybe 10 minutes now and I'm on the shittest phone you've ever seen. Even reading the thread is giving me a headache. I'm back home tomorrow night but if you makesome posts that change my mind I'll check back in befoe eod
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10021 Posts
May 25 2019 15:33 GMT
#4187
Art #3240 is about your very poor case on bugs
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10021 Posts
May 25 2019 15:36 GMT
#4192
I'm ignoring bugs top at the moment but whatever his reasons this whole 'just wait until tomorrow, you'll see' thing that people keep doing makes me want to superglue my lips to a moving car
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10021 Posts
May 25 2019 15:38 GMT
#4196
Ignoring his POSTS stupid phone.
Bugs it's because I don't have the time to waituntil tomorrow cos I'm trying to lynch scum here
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10021 Posts
May 25 2019 15:48 GMT
#4201
So sorry art I meant this post.
This is why I didn't wanna post today I can't do shit on this fucking waste of space phone FML
I'm trying to work with you.
Honestly I want you to look town so I can vote iGrok and confirm hf.

On May 24 2019 03:27 Jockmcplop wrote:
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On May 24 2019 03:20 Conversion wrote:
artanis is giving me great conflict. generally his entire filter looked good to me. the only thing about this is I don't QUITE particularly think BC was being aggressive, except to Artanis himself. so I don't quite get this "BC was super duper aggressive, but then chilled out" as a switch reason.

+ Show Spoiler +

On May 23 2019 20:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
First, why I'm not as sold on BC anymore. He's significantly dialed down his aggression in general when there's no real reason to and is giving opinions on a lot of things. It's this sequence of posts:
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On May 23 2019 07:20 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
I r back now and fuck, sorry guys. The way Ruxxar was playing I thought the read was right =\ Even if my voted wasn't on him, my read still played a huge part in his death.

As for the newest events of the last 20 pages or so.

No Bugs, after al that has been said and done, I wont be agreeing to kill VE. I voted for him (briefly) for the same reasons I started to lose my read of HF in the last game. Having time to sit back, think, and reflect I just can't kill him atm.

Looking at the thread trying to be impartial again to avoid the tunnel mentality and the adversity from contrary reads VE looks good. and his reasonings for the slight changes between games makes sense. Can't kill him as of yet.

Looking at the thread now, especially during the night phase. I would say this.

Rayn, HF, VE, Koshi (i hate saying this), all look decent and should be where any protective roles we have be sitting.

As much I know that I am on that list because I know that I am 100% town, given that basically no one else thinks so, leave me to potential bullets. Bugs, and I personally would say Jock, basically lives in the same zone that I am.

That leaves everyone else.

There is enough consensus now on Artanis that although the way I got my initial read on him was completely stupid, he has continued to post in a way that I still think is mafia. Plus the people who seem to be playing better than me agree on it so I feel a bit more sure.

the other 2 I feel are scattered between Callix, Igrok, Conversion and Disinformation. Im trying to avoid tunneling like I have been, because I can see that I have been now.

I need to reread Calix and Igrok as through tunneling artanis, ruxxar and disinformation I more or less left them by the wayside.


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On May 23 2019 07:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Bugs. I will fully agree that my first major read on Artanis was after he tunnel dove me and said shit I know is wrong. Your reason for why i was super pissed is right though. I gave him a pass, got shat on by him for giving him that pass, had my filter misinterpreted and shit made up. So I will fully admit I got pissed and tunneled on him.

Now. Do I still think hes mafia? yes, but hes currently the only read I had that I am committed to.

That is also concentrating mainly on the last 24ish hours as well.

The content is partially important, but more so is the tone. As mafia there'd be no reason to do anything but keep the focus on me with thread sentiment on his side. He also seems to be working with people to actively try and get a read on them.
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On May 23 2019 20:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
I have already stated when I scum read you and when I upgraded my read. Those are clearly already in thread. So go filter dive me if you want to read them. Even you have to put through the extra work if we are going to solve the game.

The tone is just so different from earlier and there was no pressure on him to change, really. All the people accusing him were considered null at best.

As for why WBG:
Same tone thing, but very differently. When HF accused me of something that was wrong, this was how he replied:
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On May 22 2019 04:20 Holyflare wrote:
On May 22 2019 04:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
And HF, explain your read progression on me. You disliked me, read my filter, gave a begrudging townread and now you're scumreading me for something that is wholly false.


Eh, yeah, you're pretty correct actually I don't know. I think it's because you're just not around that you kind of fall by the wayside and I'm like "oh, I haven't scum read that guy in a while and nobody else fits, let's call him mafia."

Extremely transparent, acknowledges his reasons for reading me were inaccurate and.. that's it. He doesn't arrive at a conclusion immedately because it's not necessary. Contrast that with Bugs regarding me accusing BC:
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On May 22 2019 23:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
why did people say BC OMGUSed artanis when BC scumread artanis first

or at least I feel like I remember that sentiment was thrown around

ok w/e. Too much thinking.

Makes an incorrect statement.
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On May 23 2019 07:16 wherebugsgo wrote:
On BC reading Artanis as scum before Artanis cased him, look:

On May 21 2019 21:08 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Fuck. I need to sleep.

Currently Voting for VE. Although I may be seeing ghosts so I need to think on it a bit / re read his filter.

If hes not who we decide to lynch.

At this point id still be down for

Artanis
Disinformation
Ruxxar.

I will clearly update / reevaluate based on whatever is posted while im gone but those 4 would be my preferred lynch priorities


He literally lists Artanis as the FIRST choice before disfo/ruxxar, after just saying he is confused about VE.

I can totally get him reacting very strongly to Artanis then jumping on a vote on him.

I’m actually deducting town points from both disformation and Artanis for not correctly reading this and using it as an opportunity to scum me instead


Lastly, on the disappearing thing: go ahead and look at the times I’m absent from the thread. It is 7 am here in Japan. I referred to ruxxar disappearing on multiple occasions after myself or other players would direct messages at him shortly after he posted in the thread. These are different types of disappearances, and that both rayn and disformation are trying to scum me for it is highly suspicious.

Well, I guess not on rayn’s part because rayn just has a hard-on for calling me stupid and twisting everything I say in that direction.

Expands on statement, showcases its importance regarding reading me and disfo. Did not check the validity of said statement.
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On May 23 2019 07:26 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 23 2019 07:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 23 2019 07:16 wherebugsgo wrote:
On BC reading Artanis as scum before Artanis cased him, look:

On May 21 2019 21:08 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Fuck. I need to sleep.

Currently Voting for VE. Although I may be seeing ghosts so I need to think on it a bit / re read his filter.

If hes not who we decide to lynch.

At this point id still be down for

Artanis
Disinformation
Ruxxar.

I will clearly update / reevaluate based on whatever is posted while im gone but those 4 would be my preferred lynch priorities


He literally lists Artanis as the FIRST choice before disfo/ruxxar, after just saying he is confused about VE.

I can totally get him reacting very strongly to Artanis then jumping on a vote on him.

I’m actually deducting town points from both disformation and Artanis for not correctly reading this and using it as an opportunity to scum me instead

Lastly, on the disappearing thing: go ahead and look at the times I’m absent from the thread. It is 7 am here in Japan. I referred to ruxxar disappearing on multiple occasions after myself or other players would direct messages at him shortly after he posted in the thread. These are different types of disappearances, and that both rayn and disformation are trying to scum me for it is highly suspicious.

Well, I guess not on rayn’s part because rayn just has a hard-on for calling me stupid and twisting everything I say in that direction.

I didn't know May 21 2019 21:08 was before May 20 2019 22:22 in your calendar, WBG.


Did you scumread BC before you voted him? Because if you did then I honestly just didn’t remember that, all I remember is that I ignored you for a while since your vote was on me and you were mostly AFK so why would I bother reading you.

If you did indeed scumread him before then my apologies, I’m wrong and BC OMGUSed you. Not sure that makes him scum or that his assessment of the situation from his perspective is scummy given that I agreed with it.

"Oh I was wrong, but it doesn't change my BC read!"
The focus is much more defensive and closed.

Then the most recent post made above feels to me like he's trying to stay 'above' the discussion. Get people to guess at his little game to get free townreads.. it doesn't feel like he's critically trying to think of the game, but just filling up space whilst sitting on the sidelines.

##Vote wherebugsgo



the second thing is his bugs read, but that's mostly because I townread bugs and I don't think his argument was a good one. mmmmmmmh

he's definitely looks less towny than BC to me right now


That bugs read barely makes sense to me.
In what world are townies open and given to quickly admitting their errors and mafia are defensive and closed?
Positive character traits don't make you townie and negative ones don't make you mafia.

It looks pretty much like he started with the reads and tried to justify them afterwards.

RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10021 Posts
May 25 2019 15:53 GMT
#4207
But dude no. It doesn't make sense.

Mafia prime motivation is to look good? I thought it was to survive ie look town, not look good.

Hf basically accepted that this interaction was him not having time and not being bothered to play properly. That's whatsticks out as town to you compared to bug's reaction here.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10021 Posts
May 25 2019 15:57 GMT
#4209
That was the best bit of my argument and he left.

Poor artanis
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10021 Posts
May 25 2019 16:00 GMT
#4212
On May 26 2019 00:59 Holyflare wrote:
I'm very underwhelmed with artanis

Right???
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10021 Posts
May 25 2019 16:11 GMT
#4220
On May 26 2019 01:08 Holyflare wrote:
Can I get past the BC meta read Artanis made? I dunno lol. I can't believe Artanis thought BC's posts were even aggro to make a case? Kinda unbelievable?


He thought low effort no time hf weakly and immediately folding on a read looked townie and that bugs doing what he does as town every single time looked scum?
I don't think he really though that tho.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10021 Posts
May 25 2019 20:30 GMT
#4450
On May 26 2019 05:01 Holyflare wrote:
The way he's talking to me is the most buddy buddy psychological manipulation thing I can think of. Not sure if he believes I'm falling for it or something but I pretty much ignore every single one of those posts and think what I want, not what he tells me.


I <3 U hf
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10021 Posts
May 25 2019 20:44 GMT
#4501
On May 26 2019 05:43 iGrok wrote:
Haha, HFs case against is that I both don’t update my reads and that I updated my reads too much, this is hilarious


Arghh no man I was ready to lynch artanis with everyone else just refute the fucking case and stop this.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10021 Posts
May 25 2019 20:45 GMT
#4504
On May 26 2019 05:44 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2019 05:43 iGrok wrote:
Haha, HFs case against is that I both don’t update my reads and that I updated my reads too much, this is hilarious


Arghh no man I was ready to lynch artanis with everyone else just refute the fucking case and stop this.


BY THIS I MEAN DON'T TALK ABOUT HF TALK ABOUT HIS CASE
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10021 Posts
May 25 2019 21:01 GMT
#4545
On May 26 2019 06:00 Calix wrote:
Is...is iGrok voting for HF even though it'll probably kill him in the process...?


No he didn't unvote.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10021 Posts
May 25 2019 21:04 GMT
#4555
Did you post that for a reason BC?
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10021 Posts
May 25 2019 21:08 GMT
#4568
Conversion he's either doing the BC scumpost thing because he hasn't given us an obvious enough scumtell yet or trying to get a reaction.
It looks ridiculous if you read it though lol.

WHY IS EVERYONE POSTING SO MUCH AND WHY ARE THE PEOPLE WHO AREN'T POSTING NOT POSTING AND WHY IS EVERYONE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE MAFIA ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10021 Posts
May 25 2019 21:08 GMT
#4571
On May 26 2019 06:07 iGrok wrote:
So just to be clear, we’re all completely ignoring that HF apparently faked a post by me to include a fake breadcrumb to attack me for falsely crumbing a cop? Everyone thinks this is totally normal town behavior?


Its totally normal hf town behaviour.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10021 Posts
May 25 2019 21:11 GMT
#4581
I'm pretty sure iGrock has flat out ignored every single thing I've posted in response to him so far in this game.
I need validation dude. I need people to talk to me. I'm a social guy, know what i mean??
I get we're all busy solving the game but come on man. Just once when I talk to you don't completely blank me.
Fuck
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10021 Posts
May 25 2019 21:15 GMT
#4590
On May 26 2019 06:11 iGrok wrote:
What’s your question, champ


It wasn't a question I never asked you anything it was just an observation.

Probably just cos of the post count. I did ask you to respond to hf's point a few pages back and you ignored it and then answered it for Koshi. ITS A PATTERN. ITS NOT ONLY YOU I GET IGNORED MOST OF THE TIME.

It plays with my fragile self conscious ego.

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