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On May 24 2019 16:26 Koshi wrote:
HF is mafia. Just remember that guys.
Just remember it.

Tou dont have to act on it. You just have to know it.

On May 24 2019 17:16 Jockmcplop wrote:


There probably will be. I've read what I've read so far and I haven't read iGrock properly. It'll happen before day 2 ends I promise you, but I'm not doing off the cuff scumhunting any more because I'm not very good at it, I need to prepare and read and get my facts straight and I'm a bit dumb so that takes time and effort.

On May 24 2019 15:27 iGrok wrote:
Ok, so first, rebutting HF's nonsense.

##vote HF

So he starts with my fake vote on rayne. I am literally not allowed to discuss that, sorry.

????

HF will continue, throughout his entire takedown piece, bring up my initial rux/diso statement, even when I change my read after reading more.
-I'm pretty sure HF doesn't understand the concept of -not tunnelling-, or (as I really think) he's scum. Or both Not even true, this was just under the category "Early D1" and was highlighting his inconsistency in reads

Then he posts my "read" of Calix. The thing about my "reads" is that unlike most people, I'm not making a case. I give my thoughts. a lot is lost when I copy/paste. I'll include a picture of the map, with colors etc
+ Show Spoiler [blue doesn't mean blue, mafia.…] + Can I just point out that not only does this not include Calix but if he is indeed doing a points based approach with colouring he added 2 points that he AGREED with calix on later to his list and STILL scum read her. NOT TO MENTION he seems to have highlighted me calling VE out (I can't even read it, it looks like that at least) but DIRECTLY BELOW IT he has VE in fucking red. What the shit?

Next, HF quotes the same post twice, somehow thinking he's trapped me by making me work after I said I was time limited. This is just... bad. No idea where I quote the same post twice, it might be easy to think I quoted the same post twice but they were 2 different igrok posts. Regardless, "Thinking he's trapped me by making me work" certainly doesn't sound like something you attribute to a mafia read.

HF is very upset that I called him dumbtown. Honestly, I shouldn't have called Calix potentially dumbtown. I was a little frustrated that I hadn't caught that, if I had more time to focus then maybe I wouldn't have been frustrated. I still don't understand the dumb town thing. I have no qualms with being called dumb town, I often am. It's the inconsistency with the fact he's trying to call someone that voted for HIS MAFIA READ dumb. Why is that dumb in the slightest?

HF also apparently doesn't understand what its like to not just tunnel someone. I hope that one day, I can be like as HF and have 100% confidence that I am always right the first time, every time. staple me AND DEFINITELY READS LIKE HE KNOWS I'M TOWN. Probably the WORST part of this entire post. It's my literal job if I'm mafia to push a mislynch but he's telling me that I'm 100% confident and tunelled which is calling me town 100%!!!

Finally, concludes with accusing me of being mafia because I'm not in the thread. The "Where's his head at?" made me laugh. For all his filter diving of me, he still can't tell that I'M AT A FUCKING 12 HOUR/DAY INTENSIVE SEMINAR FOR WORK. As I've said. Multiple times. And no one else seems to have an issue figuring that out. This is flat out bull shit. You were in the thread multiple times since the end of d1 and posted such gems as "I said this first" or "good job" but couldn't be bothered to write one sentence on who you thought was mafia.

Also, yeah the best vets were basically day 2 monsters. The meta now seems to be to Tunnel someone until they crack, and spam the shit out of the thread, but back then that was the rare exception (Palmar for example). I'm nowhere near as good as foolishness, radfield, Ace, Dr.H etc - but I think a lot of people then wanted to emulate their playstyle. I haven't played in a while, and my plan for any game where I don't know a lot of the players is to be as open as I can, and just convince them I'm townHas VE red in his list he posted above but never said anything about him. Doesn't explain fake votes. Doesn't ever update his reads.. I believe day 1 is mostly just about stirring shit up, read generation as I said before. Unfortunately I'm not allowed to talk about what my plan was day 1, and I literally can't say more than that.

But yeah, none of this was for HF, this is for everyone else. Now, I've got 1 more day of seminar, and then a red-eye flight home. I'll still be reading, and commenting occasionally, but please don't fuck this up. Also, Conversion if I see you in LA, remember, no talking about the ongoing game What was the point of all this anyway? That I'm tunneled and spammy but not mafia?

VE
HF is overreacting
Buuuut its ok to kill rayn
rayn and wbg are unlynchable
Rayn and WBG are unlynchable because they are read generating
igrok is blue or red
if rayn and wbg are both town, they wil shit up the thread trying to lynch each other.
Its been years since i last played with them, but this tracks perfectly with my memory Point for VE

On May 21 2019 15:14 iGrok wrote:

None until I finish reading the thread.

VE caught something that no one else did (publicly).

On May 24 2019 17:47 Jockmcplop wrote:


I will because he needs looking at if you're gonna go for the lynch.

Just so you know, though, saying "congrats you pressured me you're town" doesn't make me suddenly think "Oh shit, hf must be town."
That's gonna need more than just one big long day of pressure on iGrock.

So Rux became more townie, but still is less townie than BC. I wasn't active during this time, so who is now scummier than Rux and why haven't we heard about it?

On May 24 2019 18:04 Holyflare wrote:


Points to take away from this:

He shows us a list of reads that has VE red, not explained as far as I can see in the entire thread.



Let me just really hammer this home for you. This guy has coloured VE red and highlights points that are negative in his image here: + Show Spoiler + BUT the only point you can see that he's said anything attributing to a positive OR a negative in this entire post is a POINT FOR VE. Where is this green highlighted in this image in the slightest??????? NOWHERE.



HF, Calix, Rux, Arty, BC, loosely in that order.

No VE. Nowhere.

The rest of this post literally just explains how I'm tunneled and tells everyone that he wishes he could be 100% convinced like I am but that implies I'm town. Otherwise I'm just pushing agenda, a mislynch on someone afk, anything. He never once mentions this.

On May 24 2019 19:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

You remember me from a time when I didn't have a job and a wife my friend, I haven't played much at all since then. Please do not try to read me from activity as it will lead you astray.

Please tell me which salient points cannot be rebutted by time invested compared to thread length and I will address them.

On May 24 2019 20:04 Koshi wrote:

Disfo my dearest friend.

Is it believable that hf is so prudent of Artanis his alignment? Based on his filter.

(You dont need to reread filter. Just base it on your feelds)

On May 24 2019 20:11 disformation wrote:

not fully sure on art myself. so it kinda makes sense that some other town dude also struggles with reading art. and the thread indeed moves 10 pages a second. and unlike grok, art always does _something_ when hes here.
though not sure why hf says arts stuff isnt awful, eg arts n1 stuff looked very rushed and as i stated last page if found the waffle off bc a bit strange.