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On May 25 2019 04:22 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 04:17 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 25 2019 04:05 Calix wrote:On May 25 2019 02:51 iGrok wrote:
The rest:
BC is a complete null to me. Don't have a single idea where he is.
Bugs I'm leaning town on.
HF is obviously mafia.
VE I'm not sure. Lots of points, haven't contextualized them well yet.
Jock is also null, same deal. Some town some scum, especially the domino lynch proposal is just never a good idea.
Artanis is leaning scum, but I haven't paid much attention to him D2.
Calix's early game felt real bad, but I'm convinced on HF and also don't think Calix and HF can both be scum.. Translation: I have no other scum reads aside from Artanis, the guy who is the scum-driven counter-wagon. I will be voting for Artanis at EOD but I'll pretend this isn't what I'm planning to do by saying "I haven't paid much attention". While we're on the topic of 'scum driven wagons', Koshi is only now willing to put aside his scum read of me if it means he can vote off Artanis instead. It's so obvious that's what these two scummers are leading up to, lol. iGrok's reappearance has to be the most disappointing letdown in mafia history. He doesn't even try looking into Artanis or talk about other players or anything. Seriously, almost all his recent posts do nothing to help town. Page 6 of his filter is appallingly scant of discussion about other players despite having a bunch of null and 'uncertain' reads. How the fuck VE and Jock looked at iGrok's posts and conclude Artanis is more mafia is beyond my comprehension. Give me one read artanis has made based on solid townie logic. I have no idea what you definition of 'solid townie logic' is. All I can say is that, when I filter-dived him yesterday, his progressions make sense and I could see a townie perspective/ internal logic behind his posts. His D2/ WBG posts aren't great but they don't sufficiently prove he's mafia either. Meanwhile iGrok has not posted ANYTHING helpful to town this entire cycle.
Every even remotely committed read I've seen in his filter is based on very suspect logic.
iGrok is also looking scummy. I believe this.
What I can't believe is how to everyone here its so fucking obvious that they are right and the other side is wrong. That's stupid.
They actually have fairly similar filters in many ways...
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On May 25 2019 04:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
Also Artanis’s logic wasn’t completely terrible but it was a stretch. Stretching does not make you mafia because townies want to be right. Like me, I want to be right all the time and I’m sure I stretch the truth too. Not here though.
This isn't a stretch.
You are taking two pretty much identical filters and making excuses for one of them while calling the other scum...
No stretching, pure agenda.
So you can shove you occam's razor up your bum.
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On May 25 2019 04:30 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 04:25 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 25 2019 04:22 Calix wrote:On May 25 2019 04:17 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 25 2019 04:05 Calix wrote:On May 25 2019 02:51 iGrok wrote:
The rest:
BC is a complete null to me. Don't have a single idea where he is.
Bugs I'm leaning town on.
HF is obviously mafia.
VE I'm not sure. Lots of points, haven't contextualized them well yet.
Jock is also null, same deal. Some town some scum, especially the domino lynch proposal is just never a good idea.
Artanis is leaning scum, but I haven't paid much attention to him D2.
Calix's early game felt real bad, but I'm convinced on HF and also don't think Calix and HF can both be scum.. Translation: I have no other scum reads aside from Artanis, the guy who is the scum-driven counter-wagon. I will be voting for Artanis at EOD but I'll pretend this isn't what I'm planning to do by saying "I haven't paid much attention". While we're on the topic of 'scum driven wagons', Koshi is only now willing to put aside his scum read of me if it means he can vote off Artanis instead. It's so obvious that's what these two scummers are leading up to, lol. iGrok's reappearance has to be the most disappointing letdown in mafia history. He doesn't even try looking into Artanis or talk about other players or anything. Seriously, almost all his recent posts do nothing to help town. Page 6 of his filter is appallingly scant of discussion about other players despite having a bunch of null and 'uncertain' reads. How the fuck VE and Jock looked at iGrok's posts and conclude Artanis is more mafia is beyond my comprehension. Give me one read artanis has made based on solid townie logic. I have no idea what you definition of 'solid townie logic' is. All I can say is that, when I filter-dived him yesterday, his progressions make sense and I could see a townie perspective/ internal logic behind his posts. His D2/ WBG posts aren't great but they don't sufficiently prove he's mafia either. Meanwhile iGrok has not posted ANYTHING helpful to town this entire cycle. Every even remotely committed read I've seen in his filter is based on very suspect logic. iGrok is also looking scummy. I believe this. What I can't believe is how to everyone here its so fucking obvious that they are right and the other side is wrong. That's stupid. They actually have fairly similar filters in many ways... That's because we're egotists who love yelling at each other  But for real, I don't think this thread is indicative of iGrok/ Artanis both being mafia. Don't take this as 100% truth but two divisive wagons forming near EOD is usually not indicative of two mafia trains. So it's better to assume at least one is town as opposed to being thoughtless about who dies. Hell, both could be town. But I personally don't think iGrok is town.
I am assuming that one is town.
All i meant was in the absence of that information they both look scummy from their filters.
I agree they could both be town.
I don't think we will be able to lynch hf if iGrock flips town. Might be able to get something from an Artanis flip though.
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+ Show Spoiler +Once people start claiming roles I get really confused really fast.
I would appreciate it so much if someone could - out of the kindness of your obviously oversized hearts - explain shit to me like a 2 year old - in spoilers if you want to avoid disrupting the thread vibe, or I might disappear...
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On May 25 2019 04:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like if I were mafia /I/ certainly wouldn't have shot Koshi, he's lynch bait.
Lynch bait as in mafia will try and get a wagon on him?
That doesn't make any sense to me, given that a whole bunch of people have told me not to even bother going there because its not going to happen.
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On May 25 2019 05:14 Holyflare wrote:
Everyone is so depressing :D
Probably all depressed from looking at Koshi's filter after he claimed.
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On May 25 2019 06:06 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 06:06 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 25 2019 06:05 Holyflare wrote:
You said iGrok is mostly scumread by town? You don't know that though. HE HAS LIKE A HUNDRED VOTES It's tied 5 to 5
I still have as scum but I'm not voting for him rn.
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On May 25 2019 06:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
Dude for real please lynch me LOL
People think this kind of post is cool but someone does it everyone time like zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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On May 25 2019 06:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 06:22 Holyflare wrote:On May 25 2019 06:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 25 2019 06:12 Holyflare wrote:
I don't want to, I like having you around. Let's see what BC has to say about my case on iGrok. What page in your filter is in it? For ease of my reading it Somewhere between 1 and the end of it. + Show Spoiler +https://tl.net/forum/mafia/547420-72-24-midnight-sun-mafia?user=Holyflare&page=16 Its not bad. I do like it. But I still (currently) would prefer to lynch Artanis. I will spend part of the night at work thinking on it, and on breaks filter diving igrok to get a better read but like, currently still prefer Artanis.
I said exactly the same thing and got told I was 'being Jock' by WBG.
I GUESS WE'RE BOTH JOCK NOW.
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On May 25 2019 07:23 Koshi wrote:
Mafia already removed jock as a ml.
What is a ml?
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On May 25 2019 07:28 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 07:27 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 25 2019 07:23 Koshi wrote:
Mafia already removed jock as a ml. What is a ml? Mother in law
You made me search for this on mafiawiki
How embarrassing.
Fuck you holyflare.
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On May 25 2019 07:29 Koshi wrote:
For me the most obvious mafia is Calix.
And I scumread Artanis for lack of effort and lack of intelligence waves.
And BC for doing super fucking unlogical stuff. Ruxxar over Calix. At least 1 mafia in Ruxxarr Calix. And the lets find mafia outside ruxxar Calix. +nothing on d2. +Ruxxar his case.
I might read calix tonight and see if a case appears.
I'm pretty much at the point of sheeping you rn considering I'm not going to have any time after tonight before the deadline.
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if BC is scum artanis and calix are probably not, right?
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On May 25 2019 07:42 Koshi wrote:
Calix made case.
Ruxxar calls Calix out and says she is mafia.
BC says both Ruxxar and Calix are mafia but votes Ruxxar.
I thought BC's whole shtick on day 1 was that one of ruxxar and calix had to be mafia.
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Hmm I've just looked back through his filter and its more like one or both of ruxxar and calix. Calix starts as his major scumread and then he cites a couple of pages and upgrades calix.
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/547420-72-24-midnight-sun-mafia?user=Calix&page=3
All the posts that turned calix from scum to maybe town are going to be in this page but BC never really elaborated on what exactly they were.
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I'm disappointed with artanis.
NO BREAD OR FISH FOR YOU until you do something useful.
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On May 26 2019 00:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2019 00:11 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'm disappointed with artanis.
NO BREAD OR FISH FOR YOU until you do something useful. I've made plenty of reads and posted thoughts in the last 3 hours? It's mostly waiting for Calix and iGrok to return and I'm currently trying to get a better read on Disfo.
Your reads are boring rehashes of stuff that other people already said.
You don't have to defend yourself against me tho, I'm just a newbie and I'm not angry with you I just feel a little bit let down.
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On May 26 2019 00:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2019 00:15 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 26 2019 00:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 26 2019 00:11 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'm disappointed with artanis.
NO BREAD OR FISH FOR YOU until you do something useful. I've made plenty of reads and posted thoughts in the last 3 hours? It's mostly waiting for Calix and iGrok to return and I'm currently trying to get a better read on Disfo. Your reads are boring rehashes of stuff that other people already said. You don't have to defend yourself against me tho, I'm just a newbie and I'm not angry with you I just feel a little bit let down. I'm pretty sure I'm the first person to press Disfo as well as questioning WBG. I've brought up plenty of points that hadn't been made yet.
I'm phone posting so I'm not going to be making any long posts or arguing particularly.
All I'm saying is I thought you'd wanna make yourself look townie so you don't get lynched.
Sup to you tho
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On May 26 2019 00:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2019 01:37 VisceraEyes wrote:I wish Artanis had responded to Jock's point about him scumreading Bugs for things that way more than Bugs are guilty of. :/ I mean he unvoted and voted iGrok and everything but....he said he'd address points against him and he just like....left.  I asked him at the time to point me to examples of what he meant and as far as I'm aware these haven't been presented yet.
It's in my filter somewhere. Replying to Disfo maybe.
Good luck
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