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BloodyC0bbler

Canada7876 Posts

May 23 2019 20:23 GMT

#2881

Do you think Artanis is town Disinformation? Cause you just said you didnt. As such I find it pretty odd that your biggest upside to him is a case on me.

Like, you even removed one of his "core" points on your rehash. Also not sure why people keep saying my reads go unexplained as I have explained various reads throughout the game. More importantly its not like any of the ones I haven't fully explained is a thing only im guilty of. So whatever.

People want to lynch me for a false narrative created by a scum, being brought up repeatedly by someone else that could be scum / bad town go for it =\

disformation

Germany8352 Posts

May 23 2019 20:24 GMT

#2882

On May 24 2019 05:16 disformation wrote:
artymctanisface

early d1 is okayish-i kinda like
doesnt hate the calix entry as much as some ppl, which i can respect
comes back, digs at bc, writes good case, i like
interesting post on calix i maybe want to double check

his stuff n1 looks rushed
and the backpedal + switch to wbg dont 100% look natural?

like i really liked his d1. n1 and d2 look pretty bleh.
what else is there on art?

hmmm...
verdict: small to decent chance of scum
increasing if he keeps up the blehness.

think id rather lynch grok or bc

with what else is there i meant the "cases"
so far ive seen:
jock mainly the hf <> art interaction imo
koshi trusts wbg assessment that bc is town

BloodyC0bbler

Canada7876 Posts

May 23 2019 20:27 GMT

#2883

I am like 100% certain I never scumread Koshi. Which means you aren't reading my filter. So If you can find the posts (as I just filter dived myself and can't find them) I will concede to your points and not even fight a lynch if people say I'm scum

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Germany8352 Posts

May 23 2019 20:29 GMT

#2884

On May 24 2019 05:27 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
I am like 100% certain I never scumread Koshi. Which means you aren't reading my filter. So If you can find the posts (as I just filter dived myself and can't find them) I will concede to your points and not even fight a lynch if people say I'm scum

On May 22 2019 05:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Also based on the last few pages alone

Koshi, Artanis, Ruxxar, Disinformation are all good targets for lynches, dt checks and vig bullets.

VE feels better after seeing everything since I came back.

BloodyC0bbler

Canada7876 Posts

May 23 2019 20:32 GMT

#2885

That doesn't state hes a scum read. I will fully give you it can look like that based on the other 3 names however.

On May 23 2019 07:57 BloodyC0bbler wrote:

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This general sentiment (not just in regards to koshi but a style he and many more do) led to my hiatus for so long. Honestly the only "troll" player I truly enjoy reading is Chezinu because well, its chez. His posts were always so carefully crafted.

Ill let you decide if this was a good enough reason, if not go to town on me man. Said I wouldn't fight it. Given I did have him as null or town everywhere else after that post you quoted.

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Germany8352 Posts

May 23 2019 20:33 GMT

#2886

but yes i have to admit that me not being confident in art being town does create some hesistance. which is why i had to check your filter again.

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Germany8352 Posts

May 23 2019 20:39 GMT

#2887

On May 24 2019 05:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
That doesn't state hes a scum read. I will fully give you it can look like that based on the other 3 names however.

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Ill let you decide if this was a good enough reason, if not go to town on me man. Said I wouldn't fight it. Given I did have him as null or town everywhere else after that post you quoted.

hmmmm... not 100% convinced tbh.
but you could answer some questions
1. if art was not available today, who would you lynch and why
2. can you explain what/why you liked the two first grok posts:

On May 24 2019 04:41 disformation wrote:
bc's defense on grok is also pretty eh?

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On May 23 2019 20:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote:

On May 23 2019 20:05 Calix wrote:

On May 23 2019 20:01 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Once he returned to the thread (after the first his flight) He has been fairly active in the thread. At least by say, my standards.

Like, I am clearly able of being wrong given HF last game and ruxxar this game. But I just don't see Igrok as scum at this moment. His activity is similar to my own (so if that means im scum go for it) and he looks to be trying to figure out the game.

Not going to judge igrok for that sentiment though if we arent going to also damn every other player who has borderline rage quit the game for similar behaviour.

I don't understand this post. Nobody is scum-reading you or iGrok based on activity yet most of this post talks about activity like it's AI.

As for the only thing in this post that would actually be AI, can you point us to the 'figuring out the game' posts iGrok has, in your opinion, made?

Do you even read the thread? VE literally just used the reason of "complained about thread and fucked off"

As for posts

On May 21 2019 16:31 iGrok wrote:
Man, I'm out of practice. I really want to feel like calix is mafia, but I can tell if its because she is making bad aggro on me and I'm overreacting.

It doesn't help that I have no idea how good/bad/experienced calix is. My initial key moments for her were:

Calix
HF / Jock good, rayn bad, wbg probably good
-Honestly really basic post. easy to make if less experienced scum
stop calling me scum for sheeping, I'm gonna keep sheeping because reasons
Its a fucking VE / rayn conspiracy
Total reversal, VE/dis good, conv/rux bad
BC is scummy because he's... drawing attention away from me... by bringing me up when other lurkers are being focused more?

Only positive thing I know about calix right now is that I like her playstyle. Periodic summaries - its what I typically tried to do as well.

But like I said, I'm self-aware enough to realize that I may just be reacting incorrectly. Thoughts?

On May 21 2019 16:58 iGrok wrote:
alright guys its 1am and I have to be up at 5am for another all-day class. I'll be back before the vote, catch up, give my thoughts, and vote. next day cycle won't be like this, class finishes friday.

And I guess I shouldn't really say class, its a programming seminar thats 12 hours/day.

Go catch some scum for me lol. Most of my reads are there.

Some hidden thought counts for future use:
BC:1
WBG:2
HF:2
VE:4
Rux:1

Actually, I'll go ahead and open the rux thought up. Someone should review post #682. I honestly dont even remember what it was and I'm about to pass out, but I made a note to review it.

On May 22 2019 01:02 iGrok wrote:
Frankly the HF turn on Jock feels scummy, like pushing an easy lynch. Honestly HF's filter looks like trash, with one or two exceptions

On May 22 2019 04:36 iGrok wrote:
@VE I've been away for a while but my read on rayn fits perfectly with my memory of him. I thought you had caught onto it earlier, said as much too, but I guess not?

Rayn's early game felt completely like read-generation material. The bad VT claim, the aggression, the obvious fake claim (which almost everyone ignored, so... either good job to everyone for not buying it or horrible job for not even noticing it) - he did oversell it later, made it more obvious but like...

He called HF on some nonsense, decided he had found some mafia and stopped playing as someone said - but honestly that is such a rayn thing to do from my memory.

On May 22 2019 08:35 iGrok wrote:
@Calix, you obviously can't read me or don't want to. You're throwing a bunch of extra implications into my statement.

"If it comes down to myself, bc, or rux, I will obviously vote rux." does not mean "I want to vote rux". Give me a fucking break.

I took my vote off you despite knowing that my having put the earlier vote on you would probably be the tiebreaker for the lynch. I did this because I'm just trying to figure the game out, realized I had made a mistake, and fucking owned up to it instead of rolling on ahead ignoring everyone else.

That being said, I'm not a village idiot, I don't want to die today, and I know that I'm at least as likely to be town as BC/Rux because, from my perspective, I'm 100% town. So if that's what it comes down to, yeah I'll vote for either of them in a heartbeat.

like i think hf had some posts that the notes on calix werent very good and the "oh i have notes on ppl, for example someone should look at this post by ruxxar i forgot why i noted it down" post was bit strange as well.
i mean im glad he mentioned it so i could dig it out, but i would have a better read on grok if he would have said if its supposed to be a scummy/towny post by ruxxar.

rest of the grok quotes seem okay, but the first two posts by grok are not that inductive of a tr on him imo

BloodyC0bbler

Canada7876 Posts

May 23 2019 20:40 GMT

#2888

Honestly as a last bit. Filter this game a bit. Its 3 pages so you can see if im full of shit or not.

https://tl.net/forum/mafia/542541-end-of-the-world-party-mafia?user=BloodyC0bbler Was mafia. I know theres at least 1 or 2 posts in there that could easily explain my stylistic change. However that is a very good example of my scum play. Especially given that its recent.

However now to continue reading everything else that happened while I slept.

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Germany8352 Posts

May 23 2019 20:41 GMT

#2889

eh sry for the huge quote thing. you quote like 5 grok quotes as being town. and two of them are very underwhelming imo.

also where the fuck is everyone else. i want opinions on this stuff (grok/art/bc) from everyone

BloodyC0bbler

Canada7876 Posts

May 23 2019 20:47 GMT

#2890

If not Art? At this moment im not 100%. I have a strong read on Calix but I'm easily able to admit that could because I extremely dislike her and my interaction before I went to bed. Waiting on me to simmer a bit on it and re read to come at it at a clear head. However atm it would be her.

As for Igrok. I liked them because they show he is actively scum hunting and making notes. He calls people out for things he notices. Sure that can be faked. But it doesn't strike me as "HI IM MAFIA" and instead comes of more like "HI IM TOWN"
Also he was willing to reevaluate a read over just auto locking a lynch due to new light. He may have re settled his read but actively being willing to update via new information is a good thing.

BloodyC0bbler

Canada7876 Posts

May 23 2019 20:49 GMT

#2891

On May 24 2019 05:41 disformation wrote:
eh sry for the huge quote thing. you quote like 5 grok quotes as being town. and two of them are very underwhelming imo.

also where the fuck is everyone else. i want opinions on this stuff (grok/art/bc) from everyone

I can totally appreciate your view. Its just how I saw him. I am clearly willing to admit I could be wrong. Regardless of what other people say, my strong suit has never been as town as I struggle to differentiate mafia from what I perceive as bad play. Which is my own fault and my own personal bias' that come into play.

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Germany8352 Posts

May 23 2019 20:51 GMT

#2892

On May 24 2019 05:40 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Honestly as a last bit. Filter this game a bit. Its 3 pages so you can see if im full of shit or not.

https://tl.net/forum/mafia/542541-end-of-the-world-party-mafia?user=BloodyC0bbler Was mafia. I know theres at least 1 or 2 posts in there that could easily explain my stylistic change. However that is a very good example of my scum play. Especially given that its recent.

However now to continue reading everything else that happened while I slept.

notes:
1) you sound way angrier that game, so it really seems that art fucked up the meta
2) the very first post you already explain all three of your reads and you continue to explain your reads better throughout the game. i can even see some cases! not sure how that makes me feel tbh ~~

BloodyC0bbler

Canada7876 Posts

May 23 2019 20:58 GMT

#2893

Easier to be sure of yourself when you are holding all the information haha

disformation

Germany8352 Posts

May 23 2019 21:03 GMT

#2894

this game tbh...
"oops youve got me, vote me if you want"
bit creepy how you cooperative you became all of a sudden though ~~

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Germany8352 Posts

May 23 2019 21:14 GMT

#2895

its like the same shit with grok
me like: "got you scum!"
and i expect resistance and/or shitfighting or omgus or a countercase

and what do i get
"oopsie me wrong, thanks for pointing it out"
"got me, fam, vote me if you wanna"

so my like 5 brain cells go like: