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you'll never guess who my roleblocker is LOL
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I mean I'm literally scumclaiming right now and I guarantee you I won't get lynched
that's how confident I am
I mean even if I do get lynched in that like 0.02%, I don't see how my roleblocker would get lynched
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On May 22 2019 20:45 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 20:43 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2019 20:41 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 20:38 disformation wrote:On May 22 2019 20:37 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 20:31 disformation wrote:On May 22 2019 20:16 Calix wrote: Also can someone tell me why iGrok decides to vote for HF at EOD? Earlier he justified his vote on me partly because 'HF my top scum read isn't getting lynched' but then he leaves a lone vote on HF despite literally nobody wanting to lynch him at EOD. No way he could've thought HF was going to die when nobody had mentioned him.
It's even worse because this was when I was a wagon? [because he apparently scum-reads me again but not really, who the fuck even understood that part of the chat]
It looks horrible. oh he is going for a logic attempt. let me try to translate and see if it makes sense: On May 22 2019 10:16 iGrok wrote: [...] So if at least one of calix and ruxx are town, that means that HF has to be scum. On May 22 2019 10:21 iGrok wrote: Seriously, I think the logic there is pretty straightforward, but to reiterate:
Calix and Ruxx are not both mafia, because mafia would not bus a teammate when the votes are close like this.
Ruxx and HF aren't both mafia because Ruxxar called HF on some shit that most other people didn't, it was a weird attack when HF was not seeing any real pressure.
Calix and HF aren't both mafia because HF looked like he was trying to set up a wagon on Calix earlier.
so what this means is:
If you think that any one of HF, Calix, or Ruxx are mafia, it has to be HF
On May 22 2019 10:41 iGrok wrote: Lol, Calix and HF on "INDEPENDENT TERMS" are red.
The weakest of those assertions is the Calix/HF one, because HF switched off calix fairly quickly. Why you're attacking the ruxx/hf assertion doesn't make sense. In your words, "Come the fuck on".
Ruxxar's filter is filled with brief periods of activity which go like this: "I'm back, here's a quick summary, some filler posts, bye". H's acting like a dude who doesn't have a whole lot of time to put into writing up stuff, but he is clearly reading based on his quotes in his posts. Not everyone spams like You, HF, Koshi, or VE. On May 22 2019 10:56 iGrok wrote: C OR R==TOWN C OR H==TOWN H OR R==TOWN R != H C AND H AND R==MAFIA
Forgot that part read: one of calix, ruxxar is town one of calix, hf is town one of ruxxar, hf is town ruxxar has a different alignment from hf one of ruxxar, hf, calix scum so he is basically saying "all 3 of them look super scummy to me, but it makes no sense for them to be a team, so lemme look for the one that is most likely scum and afk my vote there" Fair play on the whole 'they're not on a team so clearly I fucked up somewhere' part. But if he thinks there's mafia between HF and myself then it still makes more sense to just re-vote me since I actually had votes and if I'm mafia then great, if I'm town then HF is scum, etc. Especially since he thinks one of us is scum still. yeah. the progression or read kinda makes sense if you think from his pov. but i also agree with you that i am not a fan of him parking the vote again on hf, after earlier being like "cant get him lynched anyways". but then i dont think anyone was in thread, so it prolly didnt super matter anyways? Whether it 'mattered or not' isn't really the point though. As for your Artanis thing, is forgetting to include a name in a basic reads list that has no reasoning attached actually scummy? *Insert random question that pretend shows I am scumhunting but instead shows I am not thinking about the game myself and really dislike to analyse situations and make conclusions about them. Not to speak of forcing my conclusions on the thread like every fucking townie does from time to time* Could you actually fuck off? I am trying to play the game and you keep harassing me and yelling at people who 'talk to me like I am a person' as if I am somehow undeserving of that. It's rude and starting to get to me on a personal level.
I have a question for you Calix
Since you've played a couple games as town against Koshi now, did you ever manage to catch him in those two previous games?
Did he play like this in either of those two ones?
How about the opposite, when you were scum vs his town?
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On May 22 2019 20:51 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 20:50 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 22 2019 20:45 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 20:43 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2019 20:41 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 20:38 disformation wrote:On May 22 2019 20:37 Calix wrote:On May 22 2019 20:31 disformation wrote:On May 22 2019 20:16 Calix wrote: Also can someone tell me why iGrok decides to vote for HF at EOD? Earlier he justified his vote on me partly because 'HF my top scum read isn't getting lynched' but then he leaves a lone vote on HF despite literally nobody wanting to lynch him at EOD. No way he could've thought HF was going to die when nobody had mentioned him.
It's even worse because this was when I was a wagon? [because he apparently scum-reads me again but not really, who the fuck even understood that part of the chat]
It looks horrible. oh he is going for a logic attempt. let me try to translate and see if it makes sense: On May 22 2019 10:16 iGrok wrote: [...] So if at least one of calix and ruxx are town, that means that HF has to be scum. On May 22 2019 10:21 iGrok wrote: Seriously, I think the logic there is pretty straightforward, but to reiterate:
Calix and Ruxx are not both mafia, because mafia would not bus a teammate when the votes are close like this.
Ruxx and HF aren't both mafia because Ruxxar called HF on some shit that most other people didn't, it was a weird attack when HF was not seeing any real pressure.
Calix and HF aren't both mafia because HF looked like he was trying to set up a wagon on Calix earlier.
so what this means is:
If you think that any one of HF, Calix, or Ruxx are mafia, it has to be HF
On May 22 2019 10:41 iGrok wrote: Lol, Calix and HF on "INDEPENDENT TERMS" are red.
The weakest of those assertions is the Calix/HF one, because HF switched off calix fairly quickly. Why you're attacking the ruxx/hf assertion doesn't make sense. In your words, "Come the fuck on".
Ruxxar's filter is filled with brief periods of activity which go like this: "I'm back, here's a quick summary, some filler posts, bye". H's acting like a dude who doesn't have a whole lot of time to put into writing up stuff, but he is clearly reading based on his quotes in his posts. Not everyone spams like You, HF, Koshi, or VE. On May 22 2019 10:56 iGrok wrote: C OR R==TOWN C OR H==TOWN H OR R==TOWN R != H C AND H AND R==MAFIA
Forgot that part read: one of calix, ruxxar is town one of calix, hf is town one of ruxxar, hf is town ruxxar has a different alignment from hf one of ruxxar, hf, calix scum so he is basically saying "all 3 of them look super scummy to me, but it makes no sense for them to be a team, so lemme look for the one that is most likely scum and afk my vote there" Fair play on the whole 'they're not on a team so clearly I fucked up somewhere' part. But if he thinks there's mafia between HF and myself then it still makes more sense to just re-vote me since I actually had votes and if I'm mafia then great, if I'm town then HF is scum, etc. Especially since he thinks one of us is scum still. yeah. the progression or read kinda makes sense if you think from his pov. but i also agree with you that i am not a fan of him parking the vote again on hf, after earlier being like "cant get him lynched anyways". but then i dont think anyone was in thread, so it prolly didnt super matter anyways? Whether it 'mattered or not' isn't really the point though. As for your Artanis thing, is forgetting to include a name in a basic reads list that has no reasoning attached actually scummy? *Insert random question that pretend shows I am scumhunting but instead shows I am not thinking about the game myself and really dislike to analyse situations and make conclusions about them. Not to speak of forcing my conclusions on the thread like every fucking townie does from time to time* Could you actually fuck off? I am trying to play the game and you keep harassing me and yelling at people who 'talk to me like I am a person' as if I am somehow undeserving of that. It's rude and starting to get to me on a personal level. I have a question for you Calix Since you've played a couple games as town against Koshi now, did you ever manage to catch him in those two previous games? Did he play like this in either of those two ones? How about the opposite, when you were scum vs his town? Uh, I think I got lynched D1 in the scum game. And I don't think I've ever 'caught' him as town until after I was dead, lol. So my record of reading Koshi is, on the whole, not great.
you have the benefit of hindsight now, do you think this play is more similar to his town or scum games?
If I had the power to smite Koshi and rayn both out of the game I probably would, even though sadly I have a townread on rayn and sort of a community town read on Koshi
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On May 22 2019 20:58 disformation wrote: he is pretty unchill. but can be town!koshi being super annoyed at kinda getting ignored all game
you mentioned earlier in the game he had reads you disagreed with and didn't know how to read him because of that
is that still true or are you more aligned on reads now?
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On May 22 2019 21:05 VisceraEyes wrote: Town motivations: - Town often switch their reads based on their own thread actions and interactions. Could just be town and I'm wrong about being fake. - Could be trying to stay alive by making the mafia think he's dumb? - Could be a power role trying to dodge a bullet?
Mafia motivations: - Town often switch their reads based on their own thread actions and interactions. Could be mafia faking town? - Could be trying (lol) to turn thread sentiment against me? - Could be faking trying to stay alive?
uuuuuuggghhhhhh
Why are people playing in an intentionally difficult way? Just play the same as you do during the day, Jesus fucking Christ.
do you think his case on BC is legit (AKA would town Artanis do that)? Do you agree with it?
What's your read/take on Calix ATM?
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On May 22 2019 21:14 VisceraEyes wrote: God it reminds me of that time I switched off Sandroba. Do you remember that shit? I bet Bugs does.
Ugh....I remember last game when Bugs was not dumb OR mafia. He's one of the two this game and it's so fucking annoying.
uhh I definitely was dumb last game, no idea what you're talking about here
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I'm both this game though :D
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if koshi had iGrok AND BC in his list why the fuck did he keep his vote on Calix when it became obvious she wouldn't die?
He was still in the thread at that point???
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On May 22 2019 21:30 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 21:16 disformation wrote:On May 22 2019 21:03 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2019 05:57 Koshi wrote: 1. BloodyC0bble 4. HolyFlare 8. iGrok 11. disformation 12. Arty Mctanis 13. Calix aight. what do you think about the grok read progression i pointed out? not sure about your progression on grok. think you were like "oh hes town... no wait hes on my list" yesterday. On May 22 2019 21:05 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 22 2019 20:58 disformation wrote: he is pretty unchill. but can be town!koshi being super annoyed at kinda getting ignored all game you mentioned earlier in the game he had reads you disagreed with and didn't know how to read him because of that is that still true or are you more aligned on reads now? well the big thing koshi and me seem to agree on is bc. that is good and i like that. otherwise for the most part and we having pretty much disagreeing opinions? though to be honest, after yesterday's lynch i might be more willing to see a world where koshi is smart town and i am dumb town, so ill prolly take a look at calix and hf again and see if i can see what koshi is seeing. Grok has always been on my list.
what in the
On May 20 2019 18:20 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 18:13 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 18:12 Koshi wrote:On May 20 2019 18:11 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 18:10 Koshi wrote:On May 20 2019 06:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:honestly thought this was going to start you know, not when it did. As I am just finishing the catch up so far. Anyone who liked the fact HF started the vote train and swing onto rayn based off the Town Vanilla post should be shooting HF with a gun. Why? Because HF claims / fake claims shit every fucking game and gets pissed if you lynch him off it. If someones whos moto is to be a troll with claims decides to start any form of suspicion on someone for any style of claim he deserves to be doused in fire and die. Now. If you voted for Rayn for anything after his claim and before Calix appeared in the thread, you are in the clear for now. Calix imo screams fucking mafia. His first post, Which I will quote here just to bring it back to the forefront On May 19 2019 22:38 Calix wrote: Hi.
HF/ Jock said a lot of what I was going to say so I don't have much new to add. They're currently my top town-reads because of that and I'm happy to sheep them.
I like WBG's #220, that looks like a post a townie would make when they're trying to be reasonable and not just jump down their suspect's throat.
Personally, I don't like how rayn has been acting during his latest interaction with Jock. Jock's been on the offensive and looking really townie while rayn's responses have been lacking.
(I don't care about the role stuff. It has nothing to do with my vote)
##vote raynpelikoneet this post is extremely fucking scummy. His entire post screams thread sentiment while offering nothing new, gives a shitty reason to drop a vote. He "red" reads rayn for being lacking while his entire post is lacking anything but "certainty" then spends the rest of his time basically doing nothing aside from "keep voting rayn" while offering nothing new before vanishing. VE does raise a good point on Igrok however before we decide to fully opt that route we should wait for him to get back from being gone all day on a plane to post anything to get a better idea. I am fine with putting him on the likely red list for now but I feel like its fine to give the man a few more posts before damning him given what he has posted thus far. Also this is being quoted for anyone who bothers to think on it. I feel it will give me / anyone with brains proper reads on eachother this game. On May 19 2019 22:07 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 19 2019 21:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 19 2019 21:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 19 2019 21:13 Holyflare wrote: [quote]
So you're telling me you went to the past game, copied your post and changed like 50% of the words AND the order when you could have just simply typed out the sentence instead?
That's really the line you're going with lol? Yes. Do you think i believe any host ever words VT "town vanilla" lol??? Well actually maybe you of all people do...  I mean this is the whole point of the case. Holyflare can actually brainfart and believe this is true and definitely is shameless enough to write shit like that. So nothing much to say about him. Jock is probably just new enough to idk just sheep and not think further. Gut says town becaise it would just give him more to talk about if he was just being right. Bugs should know better. Artanis and VE are being smart, which doesnt surprise me. At least VE is most likely friend. Latest posts say Artanis might be too. Is anyone suspicious to you yet rayn?? It seems like you're only defending yourself by telling people to play better instead of calling people out you think are being scummy. Welcome to smart town. PS: also mafia reside in smart town. So you're saying that everyone who is playing smart could be town or mafia, and everyone who is playing stupid could be town or mafia. Welcome to pointless town, where every post is pointless. Tis true. Except smart people are smart. Its true but pointless as I said, to say it. Everyone could be town of mafia. Making a bunch of post to point that out seems kinda like you're wasting everyone's time - no matter how true it is. Lol waste time. Tldr of all my posts so far: ... iGrok I dont understand the case about. ...
On May 21 2019 06:36 Koshi wrote: Maybe kill spot 10 to 13. And iGrok.
On May 22 2019 04:11 Koshi wrote: Igrok thinks bc, Calix and hf are mafia. Looks good.
On May 22 2019 07:00 Koshi wrote: iGrok if you get yourself lunched over 100% Calix and 85% mafia BC.... Sad days bro.
On May 22 2019 07:06 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 07:05 Calix wrote: Hey Koshi, you'd literally be more helpful if you shut the fuck up and vote for BC instead. Since I'm probably not getting lynched at this point. And you'd actually be voting for mafia then. Ohh now he is mafia. When momentum swings to iGrok and you will do everyrhing for it to stay there. Oki
On May 22 2019 07:06 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 07:06 Conversion wrote: I have no time to catch up atm— preparing for an interview tomorrow and flying out Thursday for another one. did no one like my Koshi case? I’ll revisit both Koshi and disfo if I can.
who are leading wagons, and who should I case and who should I have an opinion on? Dont vote igrok he is town.
On May 22 2019 07:11 Koshi wrote: I forgot my own list but dnu why I am here. It's mafia only.
On May 22 2019 07:13 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 05:57 Koshi wrote: 1. BloodyC0bble 4. HolyFlare 8. iGrok 11. disformation 12. Arty Mctanis 13. Calix
My 6 candidates after D1. Bit afraid for Ruxxar maybe? I hesitated the most there. And rayn I don't consider till d3. Oh wait. iGrok is on the list? Weird. Than I will just wait on flip. Dont think he can be mafia knowing my 5 other mafia reads are voting him bit w.e.
On May 22 2019 07:14 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 07:13 disformation wrote: joshi: you could also try to explain why you think igrok is town? only thing i remember is that you two had similar reads at one point. Look list. Look people pushing igrok.
On May 22 2019 15:55 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 09:50 iGrok wrote: Still not sure between you and HF, but one of you is scum. Alternatively, HF made a +2 level play and you both are, but that’s... unlikely. Josh I, Convo, disinformation, and rayn are pretty green. I think disinfo is just going with ruxxar to get something done, and the other three votes on him are mixed signals at best. And while I did initially have ruxxar as red, he did make a good post that put him back to null for me. So I’m ok with ruxxar but I’d still rather have a better target if I can.
Outside of you and HF, Artanis is my next lowest read right now, but I don’t think that’s likely to happen. Anyone who thinks it could though, speak up and let’s talk about it Tip top town.
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hold on VE let me get something straight
1. you don't believe Calix is mafia (or have you come to agree with rayn/koshi/whoever here?) 2. you don't believe BC is mafia 3. you don't believe I am mafia. 4. you believe iGrok is mafia. 5. you believe artanis could be mafia...?
pretty sure we're up to that point, right?
I actually agree with basically all of these reads though I'm waffly on both #4 and #5.
Got any other scumreads?
Koshi is town to you?
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why would iGrok waste his vote and conversion help consolidate if iGrok is town and conversion is scum
like even if conversion read into HF/Calix and/or believed iGrok's weird 1 scum out of 3 players thing, why would he ever vote on HF there when if he's mafia he could've just continued to afk? Like, iGrok chose to essentially waste his vote on HF. You could make the argument that if conversion and Calix are scum that's why he ensured the lynch on ruxxar, except that makes no sense because Calix not really ever in danger of dying there (she needed a minimum of two votes)
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On May 22 2019 22:02 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 21:55 wherebugsgo wrote: hold on VE let me get something straight
1. you don't believe Calix is mafia (or have you come to agree with rayn/koshi/whoever here?) 2. you don't believe BC is mafia 3. you don't believe I am mafia. 4. you believe iGrok is mafia. 5. you believe artanis could be mafia...?
pretty sure we're up to that point, right?
I actually agree with basically all of these reads though I'm waffly on both #4 and #5.
Got any other scumreads?
Koshi is town to you?
This is fucking retarded. ALL of those reads are in my filter, literally all of them, except somehow you got that I don't believe Calix is mafia. The one changed read changes your view of me? All of a sudden I'm worthy of talking to and not trolling? Just leave me alone. Keep playing like a person and not something that lives under a bridge and we can start discussing this game again.
I've tried to discuss things with you all game and you've consistently been pissy for no reason. Once I threaten to kill you for your takes that are completely incongruent with thread facts you seem to really perk up though.
Just answer my question. I don't actually think you can believe iGrok and Calix are mafia at the same time here though. Feel free to make up a reason why that is or isn't the case, though.
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It's a really simple question VE
do you scumread both iGrok and Calix or not?
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VE I'm going to recruit the other players in this game to harass you with those exact same questions. You know I will be successful. Your best bet is to just answer me directly because you also know that regardless of my alignment if you don't cooperate you will be dying on d2
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On May 22 2019 22:10 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 22:07 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 22 2019 22:02 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 22 2019 21:55 wherebugsgo wrote: hold on VE let me get something straight
1. you don't believe Calix is mafia (or have you come to agree with rayn/koshi/whoever here?) 2. you don't believe BC is mafia 3. you don't believe I am mafia. 4. you believe iGrok is mafia. 5. you believe artanis could be mafia...?
pretty sure we're up to that point, right?
I actually agree with basically all of these reads though I'm waffly on both #4 and #5.
Got any other scumreads?
Koshi is town to you?
This is fucking retarded. ALL of those reads are in my filter, literally all of them, except somehow you got that I don't believe Calix is mafia. The one changed read changes your view of me? All of a sudden I'm worthy of talking to and not trolling? Just leave me alone. Keep playing like a person and not something that lives under a bridge and we can start discussing this game again. I've tried to discuss things with you all game and you've consistently been pissy for no reason. Once I threaten to kill you for your takes that are completely incongruent with thread facts you seem to really perk up though. Just answer my question. I don't actually think you can believe iGrok and Calix are mafia at the same time here though. Feel free to make up a reason why that is or isn't the case, though. Do you mean specifically ve or everyone? I think it's more likely calix is if igrok is personally.
Specifically VE.
He said this:
On May 22 2019 21:13 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 21:11 Holyflare wrote: Can everyone please comment on igrok and stop ignoring him. Read his points on me and see if you agree with them. If you think they're all fabricated why has he not updated it when told he's wrong? OH I'M READY TO KILL HIM HF. Like I'm sorry I moved my vote, I THOUGHT it might hit simultaneously hit scum because I'm dumb and switch Bugs read of me because he's smart, but IT DID NEITHER AND I'M SORRY.
and he also said this:
On May 21 2019 23:16 VisceraEyes wrote: Can'tLynchWon'tLynch VE rayn Bugs BC Koshi Conversion ruxXar
AwfulWaffle JockMcFlop HF
CouldLynchWouldLynch iGrok Calix disformation Artanis
I'm absolutely null on HF/Jock. He was town before, but after a reread I'm really not sure. He seemed more into actually convincing people to lynch other people last game, even as chaos reigned around him. He's content with the content in this thread. I don't know that it says anything about his alignment. Again, I refuse to try and read it yet. Jock is in a weird place like I said earlier, his effort/tone felt townie to me but now he's in here agitating and what looks like trying to get actives lynched...idk, I'm bumping it down to null.
On the won't lynch side, there are townreads and one or two people that I'm iffy on but am willing to pass for today - ruXxar among them, BC and Bugs both being hard on him warrants a look tomorrow, but frankly I think he's fine for today.
Calix being a lynch is the most dirty thing in my list I think. It goes against everything I believe right now - It's PoE, and I FUCKING HATE THAT, but it is what it is. I pseudo-agree that about half her posts seem contrived - I'm not typically one to niggle formatting but it really does look put on when she posts. Maybe it's the fact that her posts feel like they'd be fine without it, idk. But ya, agree with Koshi that it feels fake and could lynch it.
This constitutes my entire read of the game. I can maybe explain some of it, other of it I'd have to look back and see why I think it. But this is where I'm at currently, in the name of trying to figure out the best lynch today.
and he literally JUST said this:
On May 22 2019 22:02 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 21:55 wherebugsgo wrote: hold on VE let me get something straight
1. you don't believe Calix is mafia (or have you come to agree with rayn/koshi/whoever here?) 2. you don't believe BC is mafia 3. you don't believe I am mafia. 4. you believe iGrok is mafia. 5. you believe artanis could be mafia...?
pretty sure we're up to that point, right?
I actually agree with basically all of these reads though I'm waffly on both #4 and #5.
Got any other scumreads?
Koshi is town to you?
This is fucking retarded. ALL of those reads are in my filter, literally all of them, except somehow you got that I don't believe Calix is mafia. The one changed read changes your view of me? All of a sudden I'm worthy of talking to and not trolling? Just leave me alone. Keep playing like a person and not something that lives under a bridge and we can start discussing this game again.
with a strong implication that he did indeed flip his read on Calix from town to scum
sooooo why is VE just not answering this simple question
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Like I really don't know why VE is townread in this situation. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills because his play here is really not the same as last game, his takes just don't make any sense and he's been dodging interacting with me basically all game.
To the best of my recollection he hasn't proactively asked me OR BC a single question in what...72+ hours??
How is that even possible if he started the game out townreading both of us the same way he saw us last game??
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On May 22 2019 22:20 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 22:19 wherebugsgo wrote: Like I really don't know why VE is townread in this situation. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills because his play here is really not the same as last game, his takes just don't make any sense and he's been dodging interacting with me basically all game.
To the best of my recollection he hasn't proactively asked me OR BC a single question in what...72+ hours??
How is that even possible if he started the game out townreading both of us the same way he saw us last game?? Jesus now it's a buzzing, does anyone else hear the buzzing?!
man when BC reenters the thread and affirms that I'm not bullshitting your last resort will be to call us both scum.
It's too bad you thought you could get away with fucking me here
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On May 22 2019 22:24 VisceraEyes wrote: LOL
omg ur right this is fun my bad.
Bugs I still PoE Calix, but Conversion dropped in my estimation too so that PoE is weaker. It doesn't make Calix look any BETTER, it just add more Ps to E, making it less likely BY DEFINITION that she's mafia.
I don't have a strong read on Calix, she feels town to me, but not as town as my town reads so she's down in the bowels of my nulls/lynches. It's real simple and I'm trolling you because I never ever ONCE said that Calix wasn't on my radar, at least not that I remember. I have NO idea where you got the idea that my read on her switched.
why does it seem like you have no interest in figuring out the game?
If you townread both me and BC why is it that you never posed either of us any questions?
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well you better kill me or BC today then because if we're both alive you probably are dead tomorrow
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