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Holyflare
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On May 23 2019 14:52 Jockmcplop wrote: hf what did calix do to end up more scummy on your list? Nothing specifically. Maybe voting ruxxar over igrok. Also the fact igrok dodged her and still scum read her to vote me. | ||
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Holyflare
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 As will you soon enough. | ||
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Bugs/bc - igrok is a vet so he votes for rayn (now igroks vote was fake). Igrok is just afk don't vote him even though what he's done is scummy. Changed now to minorly scum read him but no passion. Calix - full on scum read at deadline, doesn't want to vote ruxxar over igrok who is blatantly scummy. Igrok appeals to her and she drops it in the blink of an eye. Not to mention igrok saving her but scum reading her. Either they're partners or he did some social engineering saying he was unvoting her. Either way it makes him mafia here. Koshi - defended igrok but still had him in his list, not voting him but still saying he's scummy You - seem to think he's scummy but we won't learn anything but why do you think he's scummy but also myself and artanis are scummy? Like you said, he's all I've pushed Artanis - I don't think he's taken a stance on igrok as far as I remember which is really reallllyyyy bad Rayn - just doing his own thing. Think he said town read or some shit but he seems super nonchalant about it Ve - said igrok scummy, would vote eventually Disfo - got the dirt on igrok and hopeful he will vote but voted not igrok at the end of the day. Dunno if I blame him Conv - would rather talk about logic with igrok and meta about koshi than game solving or giving a read on igrok So, no, talking about igrok isn't all I'm doing. I collect all the information I need around igrok for after his flip. I also have been narrowing down my town pool all night because that's how you find mafia. To you it might look like "igrok did x, y, z" but to me it's "oh he said something that I'm agreeing with, move him up in the arbitrary town list" and as you can see my read list has shifted overnight. | ||
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Holyflare
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On May 23 2019 18:49 Koshi wrote: Can somebody explain to me why the thread now thibks conversion is mafia? I saw rayn put it in the thread and after that he dropped on both HF and VE townlist by more than he should. I don't think he's dropped through actions really, just by poe and the fact I've not entirely liked what he's been up to. He has no focus on me which is something I think he'd be doing as town (afraid as mafia maybe? Bit of a stretch) and he's kind of in a weird tangential place not playing the same game as other people. | ||
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On May 23 2019 19:26 Koshi wrote: And I still think HF is mafia. For real. I really dont think iGrok is mafia and maybe mafia is setting up the TvT with Calix/iGrok. iGrok is just not looking evil. Maybe helpless? Even though he provides his ideas. Dnu. I feel the thread has put more doubt in iGrok than he deserves for sure. This is so bs. There's been like 8 people defending igrok and not even scum reading him. YOU scum read him and then you don't anymore in your list for what reason that has changed? It's like pulling teeth to lynch the scummiest behaving person I've seen in a long long time. That's crazy. | ||
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On May 23 2019 19:51 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I know this will likely damn me but whatever. I am looking into Igroks filter. Opening a post and reading the thread around it for context and I just dont see it. He is actively trying to figure the thread out IMO and his reads do appear to change based on how the thread progresses. Again, he can easily be fooling me but I just don't see how he priority in lynching at this moment in time. As such ##vote artanis This is the most untrue thing I've read in my life. You have to be mafia defending igrok. | ||
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Why does he do this if he still scum reads calix after it? Why unvote calix? | ||
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On May 23 2019 21:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Similar reasons to Ruxxar not really trying to dissuade people from voting for him? Like, I do see where you are coming from but if you arent 100% on a read and fear it might hit town (who could very well by lynched) why wouldnt you remove said vote if it could save them. Because: A) he still scum reads calix from what he said afterwards B) he let his town read die because of it C) he afkd a vote on a wagon he himself said had no way of happening | ||
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On May 23 2019 22:24 Conversion wrote: onto a more salient point: I'm like 99.99% sure I do not ever engage you directly unless you engage me first, unless I'm doing some D1 lynch holyflare that never gets traction. I'll attempt to eat a shoe and probably fail if I'm wrong, but a quick filter into past games confirm that That's what I meant. I felt like you'd be more convicted on this lynch hf shtick after obs last game. Like I said, really a stretch. | ||
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On May 23 2019 23:55 Jockmcplop wrote: HF never answered this question and I really don't want it to go unanswered. Does anyone else think this was super weird. On May 23 2019 23:55 Jockmcplop wrote: HF never answered this question and I really don't want it to go unanswered. Does anyone else think this was super weird. I can easily answer it for you. I can see how it would be weird for you but I don't think I'd ever interact with a mafia partner like that. I normally just bus or hard defend, none of this meek in between stuff that makes me look bad because of indecision. The thing about this game is that my early play will be so polarising to a work week that it's like a whole different player. This game is like the last thing on my mind (that's a lie really) but I just pop in and see a post and register it as a post I don't like but my critical evaluation brain is switched off and I'll just blurt out my thoughts quickly. I'll go back to work pondering my skim and come back and say what I've been thinking even if it's wrong. This is exactly why I got pushed and lynched last game, for misremembering something and pushing it as fact (just nobody called me out on it till I get lynched). So, I called artanis out for something I believed he did wrong and his call out made me look back at his filter and correct myself. | ||
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Holyflare
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On May 24 2019 00:56 Jockmcplop wrote: I hate to keep harping on how weirdly hf is playing this game buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut..... I'm struggling to find any meta examples of hf's vote landing off one of the major wagons, like ever. Until day 1 of this game. This might be tunneling but there's so much weird stuff its hard not to get drawn into it,know what i mean? My dude, I was the leading wagon voter I think when I went to bed. It was 5am when the flip and shenanigans happened. It's normally an eu friendly deadline or at least like 12 to 1am max so I stick around. I didn't do a fake claim this game because a) I've effectively ruined the last 2 games doing it and people never learn and even lynched me for it twice and b) it was 5am！ I think you're pretty tunnelled | ||
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On May 24 2019 01:04 Jockmcplop wrote: WOuld you get tunnelled if someone who had been playing every single game here in a similar fashion all of a sudden started playing completely differently?? I mean you've admitted that that's what's happening so surely you can understand.... Considering we both agree that you're behaving weirdly surely we can both agree that it all comes down to whether I believe your reasons for it, right? I don't think I'm playing this game any different to the last game at all? | ||
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Within the game it will be different because I have free time on a weekend. Which is the same as every game. Although last game I was buying a house so it was similar the whole time. | ||
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Unlike this igrok guy who yet again posted an afk excuse. | ||
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