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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 22 2019 17:39 GMT
#2381
lol, look at bugs' filter and ctrl+f "disappear"
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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2019 18:00 GMT
#2382
On May 23 2019 02:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
lol, look at bugs' filter and ctrl+f "disappear"

filter page 2:
On May 20 2019 14:45 wherebugsgo wrote:
[..]I was getting a lot of complaints last game for "disappearing" from the thread when I was just asleep or not around, and I'm quite an active player. Right now, the thread seems a bit quiet to me and I have to look at the times and confirm who might be around in order to prevent my mind from going crazy about how X player is not here because of Y scummy reason and not, you know, with the application of Occam's Razor that they're not around just because they can't be.[...]

bolded for extra power.
filter page 4:
On May 20 2019 23:00 wherebugsgo wrote:
man I might actually be right here

ruxxar put up a weak front when responding to me and then just disappeared, while everyone else has just gone on to talk about all sorts of other things.[...]

On May 20 2019 23:34 wherebugsgo wrote:
[,,,]This just leaves ruxxar, who didn't really respond to things, muddied my credibility by saying that I'm preachy and that I sound like his scum game (and then he disappeared shortly after I asked him to point out this similarity with an example) and has been chainsaw defended for hours despite having done nothing defense-worthy.

On May 21 2019 00:07 wherebugsgo wrote:
[,,,]
In this situation what I expect a lot of scum to do is to put up token resistance if suspected and then disappear. That's exactly what ruxxar did.

filter page 5:
On May 21 2019 09:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
[...]
Rather than answer the question you posed he completely ignored it and responded in a confusing manner, then harped on the confusion making it less likely you’d follow up. Predictably he disappeared before he was forced to commit to anything else.

Credit where credit is due, he’s remarkably slippery.

page 6:
On May 21 2019 16:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
rayn has a good chance to be scum this game, especially if ruxxar is scum. His disappearances are too convenient and he’s pushing a disformation lynch by proxy
[...]

page 7:
On May 21 2019 18:04 wherebugsgo wrote:
[...]
Rayn is just as equally making no sense, pushing disfo which is a bad lynch but not even doing it directly, rather pushing it trough Koshi, and to top it all off conveniently disappeared when the pressure abated only to come back when people started noticing he disappeared
[...]

page 10:
On May 22 2019 07:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
[...]
The only issue is that rayn has disappeared since then and seems mostly non-participatory in finding other scum-he just found some weird reasons to continue townreading ruxxar. idk though, he’s probably townier than scum just on the jock basis alone.
[...]


might have missed one or two.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 22 2019 18:07 GMT
#2383
yeah prolly on ruxxar, i dint even know he did it on me that much i only read one post one day which made me even ctrl+f it in the first place.
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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2019 18:11 GMT
#2384
i also didnt realize he was going on about ruxxar disappearing before ruxxar didnt post in a long while, commented on jock and then didnt post until he had like 4 votes on him
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 22 2019 18:11 GMT
#2385
if this game ever goes to lylo kill bugs and dont feel bad about it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 22 2019 18:12 GMT
#2386
like literally just do that, tell him fuck you and disappear.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 22 2019 18:31 GMT
#2387
On May 23 2019 03:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
like literally just do that, tell him fuck you and disappear.

I can do it tomorrow tbh.
I had a good night of sleep.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
May 22 2019 19:05 GMT
#2388
I'm here for a bit, in and out.

@VE
On May 22 2019 23:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 23:15 disformation wrote:
On May 22 2019 23:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
disformation do you have thoughts on Artanis? Your filter doesn't give me much of a hint.

sure.
didnt have much posts going early game, but nothing screamed scum to me.
came in with the good bc stuff, which i gave him a lot of town points for. didnt mind his other posts as far as i can recall.
now i am a bit miffed and not sure if I wasnt a bit to hasty with the town points. prolly just irritated at him leaving me out.

What do you think about the fact that he goes from townreading me to scumreading me based on me not joining his BC wagon? He claims that it's suspicious because I liked his case, and I'll admit that I did jokingly assent to ONE point in his case, but these were the other posts that Artanis is conveniently leaving out...

Initially in response to Artanis' case

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On May 20 2019 23:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ya I'm okay with BC honestly Artanis, the posturing and strawmen you mentioned in your first point about HF and rayn bidness just kinda feels like the way townBC thinks about the game. Trying to draw a line between the way townHF ended up playing last game and the way he's playing this game. Dunno I'm not seein what you see there.

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On May 20 2019 23:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I get it, they're two different things, HF's claim last game and the way rayn phrased his intro this game, and they're like apples to oranges or whatever, but it seems like BC is referring to more the mindset behind it all, like someone who fakeclaims the way HF did last game wouldn't/shouldn't be all up in rayns ass the way he is for what he is - not necessarily drawing a direct parallel between the two occurrences, but more commenting on the mindset that drives them both. I disagree that it necessarily means that HF should die, but I can kinda see where he's coming from.


After his SECOND appearance to come in and focus on BC to exclusion.

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On May 22 2019 02:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 22 2019 02:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 22 2019 02:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ur good carry on I said.

So Cilax, assuming an answer you like and you think she's town, who's your next target Artanis?

I still want to lynch the Cobbler but I doubt that's happening today. Need to go through the lurkers.

Ya you're seeing something rayn and I aren't right now - you may get it done later but I don't think it's happening today.


Here's where I jokingly say I'd lynch BC, though I guess Artanis didn't think it was so obviuos? It seemed obvious to me.

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On May 22 2019 04:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 22 2019 04:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Here, I'll show how.
##Vote BloodyC0bbler

Just copy and paste that in the vote thread.

I.....


I want to do it just because now it's a thing.

That's bad I know but.....






I wanna do it.

Should we?

Should we lynch BC?


Oh wait I even said it was a joke. XD

Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 04:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
LAWL I'M JUST KIDDING OF COURSE I'M NOT GONNA DO IT






am I?

God I hope a decent wagon doesn't form or I'll be put to the TEST BRUH

Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 04:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
He's not, he's trusting townread bugs and fearing my skill

Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 04:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
WAIT THAT DOESNT SOUND LIKE BC AT ALL

I guess I can see how this LAST two post interaction could be construed as "agreeing with BC's case" if you squint, but the fact remains that I consistently say I'm not into lynching BC this phase. Consistently. But somehow I'm suspicious for not lynching BC this phase? shawhaaaaaaaaa?

Yes, those last two posts are what made me believe that you agreed with my case on BC. It was also the last thing you said about him, and you then proceeded to completely ignore it which sets off some serious alarm bells.

On May 22 2019 23:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
why did people say BC OMGUSed artanis when BC scumread artanis first

or at least I feel like I remember that sentiment was thrown around

ok w/e. Too much thinking.

Uhh what?
On May 20 2019 22:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
BC is on my radar.
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2019 06:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
honestly thought this was going to start you know, not when it did.

As I am just finishing the catch up so far.

Anyone who liked the fact HF started the vote train and swing onto rayn based off the Town Vanilla post should be shooting HF with a gun. Why? Because HF claims / fake claims shit every fucking game and gets pissed if you lynch him off it. If someones whos moto is to be a troll with claims decides to start any form of suspicion on someone for any style of claim he deserves to be doused in fire and die.

Now. If you voted for Rayn for anything after his claim and before Calix appeared in the thread, you are in the clear for now.

A lot of posturing in here, as well as a strawman. HF fakeclaiming has nothing to do with claiming a wrong name for a role. The two situations are incomparable. Also, what is he actually accomplishing with this? He's making a general statement without bothering to follow up on who transgressed in the way he mentioned. "Anyone who liked HF for his claim comments should want to kill HF instead". What? And then anyone who liked him for things after is in the clear? When did we suddenly switch from talking about HF's alignment to the alignment of these unnamed players?

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Calix imo screams fucking mafia. His first post, Which I will quote here just to bring it back to the forefront

On May 19 2019 22:38 Calix wrote:
Hi.

HF/ Jock said a lot of what I was going to say so I don't have much new to add. They're currently my top town-reads because of that and I'm happy to sheep them.

I like WBG's #220, that looks like a post a townie would make when they're trying to be reasonable and not just jump down their suspect's throat.

Personally, I don't like how rayn has been acting during his latest interaction with Jock. Jock's been on the offensive and looking really townie while rayn's responses have been lacking.

(I don't care about the role stuff. It has nothing to do with my vote)

##vote raynpelikoneet


this post is extremely fucking scummy. His entire post screams thread sentiment while offering nothing new, gives a shitty reason to drop a vote. He "red" reads rayn for being lacking while his entire post is lacking anything but "certainty" then spends the rest of his time basically doing nothing aside from "keep voting rayn" while offering nothing new before vanishing.

Speaking of thread sentiment, how about piling onto a post everyone's already piled up on? Seems like a good strategy. He's being wordy on a post people have already gone into detail about. Pretty easy.

Show nested quote +
VE does raise a good point on Igrok however before we decide to fully opt that route we should wait for him to get back from being gone all day on a plane to post anything to get a better idea. I am fine with putting him on the likely red list for now but I feel like its fine to give the man a few more posts before damning him given what he has posted thus far.

Says basically nothing.

Show nested quote +
Also this is being quoted for anyone who bothers to think on it. I feel it will give me / anyone with brains proper reads on eachother this game.

On May 19 2019 22:07 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 19 2019 21:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 19 2019 21:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 19 2019 21:13 Holyflare wrote:
On May 19 2019 21:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 19 2019 20:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Rayn, what was the plan behind it?

No plan. I just thought it would be fun.


So you're telling me you went to the past game, copied your post and changed like 50% of the words AND the order when you could have just simply typed out the sentence instead?

That's really the line you're going with lol?

Yes. Do you think i believe any host ever words VT "town vanilla" lol??? Well actually maybe you of all people do...

I mean this is the whole point of the case. Holyflare can actually brainfart and believe this is true and definitely is shameless enough to write shit like that. So nothing much to say about him. Jock is probably just new enough to idk just sheep and not think further. Gut says town becaise it would just give him more to talk about if he was just being right. Bugs should know better. Artanis and VE are being smart, which doesnt surprise me. At least VE is most likely friend. Latest posts say Artanis might be too.


Is anyone suspicious to you yet rayn??

It seems like you're only defending yourself by telling people to play better instead of calling people out you think are being scummy.

In this quote thread, BC comes out with the following reads on people listed:

Rayn - Null - possible town
HF - null to scum
Jock - null to scum
And no read on me. If everyone's nullish, what could possibly be interesting on this streak that he wants to get reads on others off on? I don't get it.


My first post espousing suspicion on BC. Unless you count this weaksauce as suspicion:
On May 20 2019 14:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
I also want more out of Artanis, Igrok and Koshi. But they are all players id like substance of some sort to make an opinion on either way given that they are basically all non posters atm


He didn't say anything about me until I cased him.
On May 23 2019 00:08 Koshi wrote:
Calix
BC
Artanis

I like that more I think.

Man I must be really good at bussing.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
May 22 2019 19:09 GMT
#2389
I do actually think VE might be town though. Him trying to talk down people on points he thinks are weak on me whilst still scumreading me comes off pretty genuine and I dnu why he wouldn't just pile up on me with thread sentiment against me.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 22 2019 19:34 GMT
#2390
On May 23 2019 04:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I do actually think VE might be town though. Him trying to talk down people on points he thinks are weak on me whilst still scumreading me comes off pretty genuine and I dnu why he wouldn't just pile up on me with thread sentiment against me.

Okay who do you think is mafia?
table for two on a tv tray
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
May 22 2019 19:46 GMT
#2391
On May 23 2019 04:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2019 04:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I do actually think VE might be town though. Him trying to talk down people on points he thinks are weak on me whilst still scumreading me comes off pretty genuine and I dnu why he wouldn't just pile up on me with thread sentiment against me.

Okay who do you think is mafia?

WBG maybe? His thread policing without really taking any hard stances himself feels like he's just keeping his options open right now. He's also just pointing out a bunch of things without following up on his thoughts.
On May 22 2019 23:42 wherebugsgo wrote:
wait, me, Artanis, and BC all called VE scum...

hmm

Okay, what are you doing with this?

On May 22 2019 23:48 wherebugsgo wrote:
why did people say BC OMGUSed artanis when BC scumread artanis first

or at least I feel like I remember that sentiment was thrown around

ok w/e. Too much thinking.

Was untrue, didn't check and just checked out. I need to dig into him further though.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 22 2019 19:57 GMT
#2392
Man if wbg is mafia... what a world
I had a good night of sleep.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
May 22 2019 20:01 GMT
#2393
pretty sure i just kicked my interview’s ass

altho pretty sad at flip. i’ll be back at daytime tho. gotta pack for LA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
May 22 2019 20:03 GMT
#2394
Let's try to keep things civil, I'm sick of making blue posts in this game. If someone is making you uncomfortable or you think they've crossed a line, please don't hesitate to pm a host.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 22 2019 20:04 GMT
#2395
Wut
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 22 2019 20:05 GMT
#2396
Also congrats conv
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2019 20:13 GMT
#2397
On May 23 2019 05:05 Holyflare wrote:
Also congrats conv

this.

around-ish but pretty tired. tbh dont think me looking at filter is gonna yield anything productive rn.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
May 22 2019 20:20 GMT
#2398
On May 23 2019 05:13 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2019 05:05 Holyflare wrote:
Also congrats conv

this.

around-ish but pretty tired. tbh dont think me looking at filter is gonna yield anything productive rn.

Where are you at on WBG?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2019 20:21 GMT
#2399
oh. just noticed. think ive hit 8k post this game and got a defiler icon now. used to be one of my fav units way back in the day. never really played seriously though. not a very competetive person tbh.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2019 20:41 GMT
#2400
On May 23 2019 05:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2019 05:13 disformation wrote:
On May 23 2019 05:05 Holyflare wrote:
Also congrats conv

this.

around-ish but pretty tired. tbh dont think me looking at filter is gonna yield anything productive rn.

Where are you at on WBG?

dunno he just kinda disappeared.

j/k

thought he was one of the more sane people and had a decent read progression. though after looking at the disappearance stuff i'm not that sure if the later is that true. like... maybe he should have known better than to use that as metric?
probably should reread his case on VE tbh think i got distracted off that by your reentry readlist.

so i guess he can be similar to you. looked very town d1, but is probably not as town as i thought and i should double check and see what he does d2
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