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On May 22 2019 21:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 21:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
No, I don't currently agree with it, but we'll see if he jumps onboard the VE train with you and Art. I currently have a town tone read on BC that has been corroborated by rayn who I townread and I have no reason to doubt it currently. Me too but the post ruxxar made is honestly very very good so i'd put BC as #2 mafia. All it needs for him is to read last game's obs QT to know what he does "wrong" as mafia.
This is classic town rayn, like I've had this exact meta read on BC for years, and I've been telling BC about it for years and BC NEVER CHANGES IT FOR YEARS, but somehow rayn thinks that BC seeing rayn say it in ObsQT will make him change it for this game. LMAO
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You're a Liquidian Treasure rayn never change.
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On May 22 2019 21:46 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 21:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
here is what conversion did last night:
iGrok has his stupid (sorry man it was stupid) propositional calculus case.
Conv says he has read iGrok's post, and says he will go read HF and Calix
Instead of reading HF and Calix he takes part into "proving" iGrok's "case"
Then he ends up reading ruxxar and votes for him. Yeah this is all true so it is an EOD that could come from mafia just quietly nattering on about logick stuff before voting for the leading train. He was pretty waffly on ruxxar before. But I've liked Conversion's big posts [even if he does use meta way too much, lol] so not convinced he's mafia.
ofc you are
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hold on VE let me get something straight
1. you don't believe Calix is mafia (or have you come to agree with rayn/koshi/whoever here?)
2. you don't believe BC is mafia
3. you don't believe I am mafia.
4. you believe iGrok is mafia.
5. you believe artanis could be mafia...?
pretty sure we're up to that point, right?
I actually agree with basically all of these reads though I'm waffly on both #4 and #5.
Got any other scumreads?
Koshi is town to you?
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On May 22 2019 21:47 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 21:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 22 2019 21:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
No, I don't currently agree with it, but we'll see if he jumps onboard the VE train with you and Art. I currently have a town tone read on BC that has been corroborated by rayn who I townread and I have no reason to doubt it currently. Me too but the post ruxxar made is honestly very very good so i'd put BC as #2 mafia. All it needs for him is to read last game's obs QT to know what he does "wrong" as mafia. This is classic town rayn, like I've had this exact meta read on BC for years, and I've been telling BC about it for years and BC NEVER CHANGES IT FOR YEARS, but somehow rayn thinks that BC seeing rayn say it in ObsQT will make him change it for this game. LMAO
yeah i am not sure if i believe it, you might be right. but then he got super angry at artanis just because artanis called him mafia.
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On May 22 2019 21:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 21:47 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 22 2019 21:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 22 2019 21:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
No, I don't currently agree with it, but we'll see if he jumps onboard the VE train with you and Art. I currently have a town tone read on BC that has been corroborated by rayn who I townread and I have no reason to doubt it currently. Me too but the post ruxxar made is honestly very very good so i'd put BC as #2 mafia. All it needs for him is to read last game's obs QT to know what he does "wrong" as mafia. This is classic town rayn, like I've had this exact meta read on BC for years, and I've been telling BC about it for years and BC NEVER CHANGES IT FOR YEARS, but somehow rayn thinks that BC seeing rayn say it in ObsQT will make him change it for this game. LMAO yeah i am not sure if i believe it, you might be right. but then he got super angry at artanis just because artanis called him mafia.
Factor in history - Artanis the only player forum-older than BC in this game I think...town BC can totally get emo about Artanis calling him mafia.
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why would iGrok waste his vote and conversion help consolidate if iGrok is town and conversion is scum
like even if conversion read into HF/Calix and/or believed iGrok's weird 1 scum out of 3 players thing, why would he ever vote on HF there when if he's mafia he could've just continued to afk? Like, iGrok chose to essentially waste his vote on HF. You could make the argument that if conversion and Calix are scum that's why he ensured the lynch on ruxxar, except that makes no sense because Calix not really ever in danger of dying there (she needed a minimum of two votes)
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On May 22 2019 21:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
hold on VE let me get something straight
1. you don't believe Calix is mafia (or have you come to agree with rayn/koshi/whoever here?)
2. you don't believe BC is mafia
3. you don't believe I am mafia.
4. you believe iGrok is mafia.
5. you believe artanis could be mafia...?
pretty sure we're up to that point, right?
I actually agree with basically all of these reads though I'm waffly on both #4 and #5.
Got any other scumreads?
Koshi is town to you?
This is fucking retarded. ALL of those reads are in my filter, literally all of them, except somehow you got that I don't believe Calix is mafia. The one changed read changes your view of me? All of a sudden I'm worthy of talking to and not trolling?
Just leave me alone. Keep playing like a person and not something that lives under a bridge and we can start discussing this game again.
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On May 22 2019 22:02 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 21:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
hold on VE let me get something straight
1. you don't believe Calix is mafia (or have you come to agree with rayn/koshi/whoever here?)
2. you don't believe BC is mafia
3. you don't believe I am mafia.
4. you believe iGrok is mafia.
5. you believe artanis could be mafia...?
pretty sure we're up to that point, right?
I actually agree with basically all of these reads though I'm waffly on both #4 and #5.
Got any other scumreads?
Koshi is town to you?
This is fucking retarded. ALL of those reads are in my filter, literally all of them, except somehow you got that I don't believe Calix is mafia. The one changed read changes your view of me? All of a sudden I'm worthy of talking to and not trolling? Just leave me alone. Keep playing like a person and not something that lives under a bridge and we can start discussing this game again.
I've tried to discuss things with you all game and you've consistently been pissy for no reason. Once I threaten to kill you for your takes that are completely incongruent with thread facts you seem to really perk up though.
Just answer my question. I don't actually think you can believe iGrok and Calix are mafia at the same time here though. Feel free to make up a reason why that is or isn't the case, though.
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On May 22 2019 22:07 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 22:02 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 22 2019 21:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
hold on VE let me get something straight
1. you don't believe Calix is mafia (or have you come to agree with rayn/koshi/whoever here?)
2. you don't believe BC is mafia
3. you don't believe I am mafia.
4. you believe iGrok is mafia.
5. you believe artanis could be mafia...?
pretty sure we're up to that point, right?
I actually agree with basically all of these reads though I'm waffly on both #4 and #5.
Got any other scumreads?
Koshi is town to you?
This is fucking retarded. ALL of those reads are in my filter, literally all of them, except somehow you got that I don't believe Calix is mafia. The one changed read changes your view of me? All of a sudden I'm worthy of talking to and not trolling? Just leave me alone. Keep playing like a person and not something that lives under a bridge and we can start discussing this game again. I've tried to discuss things with you all game and you've consistently been pissy for no reason. Once I threaten to kill you for your takes that are completely incongruent with thread facts you seem to really perk up though. Just answer my question. I don't actually think you can believe iGrok and Calix are mafia at the same time here though. Feel free to make up a reason why that is or isn't the case, though.
Yeah we're done here.
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It's a really simple question VE
do you scumread both iGrok and Calix or not?
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On May 22 2019 22:08 wherebugsgo wrote:
It's a really simple question VE
do you scumread both iGrok and Calix or not?
Does someone hear something? All I hear are crickets. REALLY LOUD ANNOYING crickets.
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On May 22 2019 22:07 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 22:02 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 22 2019 21:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
hold on VE let me get something straight
1. you don't believe Calix is mafia (or have you come to agree with rayn/koshi/whoever here?)
2. you don't believe BC is mafia
3. you don't believe I am mafia.
4. you believe iGrok is mafia.
5. you believe artanis could be mafia...?
pretty sure we're up to that point, right?
I actually agree with basically all of these reads though I'm waffly on both #4 and #5.
Got any other scumreads?
Koshi is town to you?
This is fucking retarded. ALL of those reads are in my filter, literally all of them, except somehow you got that I don't believe Calix is mafia. The one changed read changes your view of me? All of a sudden I'm worthy of talking to and not trolling? Just leave me alone. Keep playing like a person and not something that lives under a bridge and we can start discussing this game again. I've tried to discuss things with you all game and you've consistently been pissy for no reason. Once I threaten to kill you for your takes that are completely incongruent with thread facts you seem to really perk up though. Just answer my question. I don't actually think you can believe iGrok and Calix are mafia at the same time here though. Feel free to make up a reason why that is or isn't the case, though.
Do you mean specifically ve or everyone? I think it's more likely calix is if igrok is personally.
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VE I'm going to recruit the other players in this game to harass you with those exact same questions. You know I will be successful. Your best bet is to just answer me directly because you also know that regardless of my alignment if you don't cooperate you will be dying on d2
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On May 22 2019 22:10 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 22:07 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 22 2019 22:02 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 22 2019 21:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
hold on VE let me get something straight
1. you don't believe Calix is mafia (or have you come to agree with rayn/koshi/whoever here?)
2. you don't believe BC is mafia
3. you don't believe I am mafia.
4. you believe iGrok is mafia.
5. you believe artanis could be mafia...?
pretty sure we're up to that point, right?
I actually agree with basically all of these reads though I'm waffly on both #4 and #5.
Got any other scumreads?
Koshi is town to you?
This is fucking retarded. ALL of those reads are in my filter, literally all of them, except somehow you got that I don't believe Calix is mafia. The one changed read changes your view of me? All of a sudden I'm worthy of talking to and not trolling? Just leave me alone. Keep playing like a person and not something that lives under a bridge and we can start discussing this game again. I've tried to discuss things with you all game and you've consistently been pissy for no reason. Once I threaten to kill you for your takes that are completely incongruent with thread facts you seem to really perk up though. Just answer my question. I don't actually think you can believe iGrok and Calix are mafia at the same time here though. Feel free to make up a reason why that is or isn't the case, though. Do you mean specifically ve or everyone? I think it's more likely calix is if igrok is personally.
Specifically VE.
He said this:
On May 22 2019 21:13 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 21:11 Holyflare wrote:
Can everyone please comment on igrok and stop ignoring him. Read his points on me and see if you agree with them. If you think they're all fabricated why has he not updated it when told he's wrong? OH I'M READY TO KILL HIM HF. Like I'm sorry I moved my vote, I THOUGHT it might hit simultaneously hit scum because I'm dumb and switch Bugs read of me because he's smart, but IT DID NEITHER AND I'M SORRY.
and he also said this:
On May 21 2019 23:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
Can'tLynchWon'tLynch
VE
rayn
Bugs
BC
Koshi
Conversion
ruxXar
AwfulWaffle
JockMcFlop
HF
CouldLynchWouldLynch
iGrok
Calix
disformation
Artanis
I'm absolutely null on HF/Jock. He was town before, but after a reread I'm really not sure. He seemed more into actually convincing people to lynch other people last game, even as chaos reigned around him. He's content with the content in this thread. I don't know that it says anything about his alignment. Again, I refuse to try and read it yet. Jock is in a weird place like I said earlier, his effort/tone felt townie to me but now he's in here agitating and what looks like trying to get actives lynched...idk, I'm bumping it down to null.
On the won't lynch side, there are townreads and one or two people that I'm iffy on but am willing to pass for today - ruXxar among them, BC and Bugs both being hard on him warrants a look tomorrow, but frankly I think he's fine for today.
Calix being a lynch is the most dirty thing in my list I think. It goes against everything I believe right now - It's PoE, and I FUCKING HATE THAT, but it is what it is. I pseudo-agree that about half her posts seem contrived - I'm not typically one to niggle formatting but it really does look put on when she posts. Maybe it's the fact that her posts feel like they'd be fine without it, idk. But ya, agree with Koshi that it feels fake and could lynch it.
This constitutes my entire read of the game. I can maybe explain some of it, other of it I'd have to look back and see why I think it. But this is where I'm at currently, in the name of trying to figure out the best lynch today.
and he literally JUST said this:
On May 22 2019 22:02 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 21:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
hold on VE let me get something straight
1. you don't believe Calix is mafia (or have you come to agree with rayn/koshi/whoever here?)
2. you don't believe BC is mafia
3. you don't believe I am mafia.
4. you believe iGrok is mafia.
5. you believe artanis could be mafia...?
pretty sure we're up to that point, right?
I actually agree with basically all of these reads though I'm waffly on both #4 and #5.
Got any other scumreads?
Koshi is town to you?
This is fucking retarded. ALL of those reads are in my filter, literally all of them, except somehow you got that I don't believe Calix is mafia. The one changed read changes your view of me? All of a sudden I'm worthy of talking to and not trolling? Just leave me alone. Keep playing like a person and not something that lives under a bridge and we can start discussing this game again.
with a strong implication that he did indeed flip his read on Calix from town to scum
sooooo why is VE just not answering this simple question
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On May 22 2019 21:39 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 21:30 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2019 21:16 disformation wrote:On May 22 2019 21:03 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2019 05:57 Koshi wrote:
1. BloodyC0bble
4. HolyFlare
8. iGrok
11. disformation
12. Arty Mctanis
13. Calix aight. what do you think about the grok read progression i pointed out? not sure about your progression on grok. think you were like "oh hes town... no wait hes on my list" yesterday. On May 22 2019 21:05 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 22 2019 20:58 disformation wrote:
he is pretty unchill.
but can be town!koshi being super annoyed at kinda getting ignored all game you mentioned earlier in the game he had reads you disagreed with and didn't know how to read him because of that is that still true or are you more aligned on reads now? well the big thing koshi and me seem to agree on is bc. that is good and i like that. otherwise for the most part and we having pretty much disagreeing opinions? though to be honest, after yesterday's lynch i might be more willing to see a world where koshi is smart town and i am dumb town, so ill prolly take a look at calix and hf again and see if i can see what koshi is seeing. Grok has always been on my list. what in the Show nested quote +On May 20 2019 18:20 Koshi wrote:On May 20 2019 18:13 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 18:12 Koshi wrote:On May 20 2019 18:11 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 20 2019 18:10 Koshi wrote:On May 20 2019 06:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:honestly thought this was going to start you know, not when it did. As I am just finishing the catch up so far. Anyone who liked the fact HF started the vote train and swing onto rayn based off the Town Vanilla post should be shooting HF with a gun. Why? Because HF claims / fake claims shit every fucking game and gets pissed if you lynch him off it. If someones whos moto is to be a troll with claims decides to start any form of suspicion on someone for any style of claim he deserves to be doused in fire and die. Now. If you voted for Rayn for anything after his claim and before Calix appeared in the thread, you are in the clear for now. Calix imo screams fucking mafia. His first post, Which I will quote here just to bring it back to the forefront On May 19 2019 22:38 Calix wrote:
Hi.
HF/ Jock said a lot of what I was going to say so I don't have much new to add. They're currently my top town-reads because of that and I'm happy to sheep them.
I like WBG's #220, that looks like a post a townie would make when they're trying to be reasonable and not just jump down their suspect's throat.
Personally, I don't like how rayn has been acting during his latest interaction with Jock. Jock's been on the offensive and looking really townie while rayn's responses have been lacking.
(I don't care about the role stuff. It has nothing to do with my vote)
##vote raynpelikoneet this post is extremely fucking scummy. His entire post screams thread sentiment while offering nothing new, gives a shitty reason to drop a vote. He "red" reads rayn for being lacking while his entire post is lacking anything but "certainty" then spends the rest of his time basically doing nothing aside from "keep voting rayn" while offering nothing new before vanishing. VE does raise a good point on Igrok however before we decide to fully opt that route we should wait for him to get back from being gone all day on a plane to post anything to get a better idea. I am fine with putting him on the likely red list for now but I feel like its fine to give the man a few more posts before damning him given what he has posted thus far. Also this is being quoted for anyone who bothers to think on it. I feel it will give me / anyone with brains proper reads on eachother this game. On May 19 2019 22:07 Jockmcplop wrote:On May 19 2019 21:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 19 2019 21:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:[quote] Yes. Do you think i believe any host ever words VT "town vanilla" lol??? Well actually maybe you of all people do...  I mean this is the whole point of the case. Holyflare can actually brainfart and believe this is true and definitely is shameless enough to write shit like that. So nothing much to say about him. Jock is probably just new enough to idk just sheep and not think further. Gut says town becaise it would just give him more to talk about if he was just being right. Bugs should know better. Artanis and VE are being smart, which doesnt surprise me. At least VE is most likely friend. Latest posts say Artanis might be too. Is anyone suspicious to you yet rayn?? It seems like you're only defending yourself by telling people to play better instead of calling people out you think are being scummy. Welcome to smart town. PS: also mafia reside in smart town. So you're saying that everyone who is playing smart could be town or mafia, and everyone who is playing stupid could be town or mafia. Welcome to pointless town, where every post is pointless. Tis true. Except smart people are smart. Its true but pointless as I said, to say it. Everyone could be town of mafia. Making a bunch of post to point that out seems kinda like you're wasting everyone's time - no matter how true it is. Lol waste time. Tldr of all my posts so far: ... iGrok I dont understand the case about. ... Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 04:11 Koshi wrote:
Igrok thinks bc, Calix and hf are mafia. Looks good. Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 07:00 Koshi wrote:
iGrok if you get yourself lunched over 100% Calix and 85% mafia BC.... Sad days bro. Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 07:06 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2019 07:05 Calix wrote:
Hey Koshi, you'd literally be more helpful if you shut the fuck up and vote for BC instead. Since I'm probably not getting lynched at this point. And you'd actually be voting for mafia then. Ohh now he is mafia. When momentum swings to iGrok and you will do everyrhing for it to stay there. Oki Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 07:06 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2019 07:06 Conversion wrote:
I have no time to catch up atm— preparing for an interview tomorrow and flying out Thursday for another one. did no one like my Koshi case? I’ll revisit both Koshi and disfo if I can.
who are leading wagons, and who should I case and who should I have an opinion on? Dont vote igrok he is town. Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 07:11 Koshi wrote:
I forgot my own list but dnu why I am here. It's mafia only. Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 07:13 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2019 05:57 Koshi wrote:
1. BloodyC0bble
4. HolyFlare
8. iGrok
11. disformation
12. Arty Mctanis
13. Calix
My 6 candidates after D1. Bit afraid for Ruxxar maybe? I hesitated the most there.
And rayn I don't consider till d3. Oh wait. iGrok is on the list? Weird. Than I will just wait on flip. Dont think he can be mafia knowing my 5 other mafia reads are voting him bit w.e. Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 07:14 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2019 07:13 disformation wrote:
joshi: you could also try to explain why you think igrok is town?
only thing i remember is that you two had similar reads at one point. Look list. Look people pushing igrok. Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 15:55 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2019 09:50 iGrok wrote:
Still not sure between you and HF, but one of you is scum. Alternatively, HF made a +2 level play and you both are, but that’s... unlikely. Josh I, Convo, disinformation, and rayn are pretty green. I think disinfo is just going with ruxxar to get something done, and the other three votes on him are mixed signals at best. And while I did initially have ruxxar as red, he did make a good post that put him back to null for me. So I’m ok with ruxxar but I’d still rather have a better target if I can.
Outside of you and HF, Artanis is my next lowest read right now, but I don’t think that’s likely to happen. Anyone who thinks it could though, speak up and let’s talk about it Tip top town.
Quoting me makes you look intelligent wbg
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On May 22 2019 21:43 Holyflare wrote:
Yeah, I know. If you give me my lynch tomorrow I will fully listen to all of you after that.
Afkers and morons left by then.
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On May 22 2019 22:18 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 21:43 Holyflare wrote:
Yeah, I know. If you give me my lynch tomorrow I will fully listen to all of you after that. Afkers and morons left by then.
Hmm this comment might save me.
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Koshi if you think I'm mafia why are you letting me freely talk and bend people around to lynch who I want?
I reckon you don't think I'm mafia but you're too afraid to say it :D
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