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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
May 23 2019 05:57 GMT
#2441
The easiest scum to kill today will be artanis in my opinion.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
May 23 2019 05:59 GMT
#2442
I've got another real busy day today so I won't be around much until late tonight (again)/tomorrow.

Everyone should vote artanis. Particularly VE, Koshi, BC and Bugs who all have him as a major scumread.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
May 23 2019 07:21 GMT
#2451
On May 23 2019 15:49 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2019 14:59 Jockmcplop wrote:
I've got another real busy day today so I won't be around much until late tonight (again)/tomorrow.

Everyone should vote artanis. Particularly VE, Koshi, BC and Bugs who all have him as a major scumread.

I have Calix as a scumread.

Then bc.

Then some others.



I will vote Calix. And Calix alone.


By 'some others', you mean artanis and hf right?

On May 23 2019 00:08 Koshi wrote:
Calix
BC
Artanis

I like that more I think.


On May 23 2019 00:08 Koshi wrote:
Oh and hf. Cant forget hf


RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
May 23 2019 07:32 GMT
#2454
On May 23 2019 16:25 Holyflare wrote:
Can't you see igrok was around for deadline and vanished again with nothing to give?

iGrock is suspicious to me but I honestly don't have a strong scumread on him.

Here's the thing.

During the night phase hf a bunch of people were trying to figure the game out in their own special angry way, using logic and associations to try and get reads of various people and all we got from you was 'lynch iGrock'. There was a subtle inference in there that you wanted to figure out the game by doing so (when you said iGrock is the 'missing puzzle piece') but aside from a *maybe possible* associative on Calix I don't get how we can figure anything out by lynching iGrock.

All that will probably achieve is getting rid of iGrock.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
May 23 2019 07:34 GMT
#2455
Feel free to explain it to me properly though.
I'm pretty much confirmed town in most people's eyes so it can't hurt. I'm totally ready to admit that I've got everything wrong if, in fact, I have.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
May 23 2019 07:51 GMT
#2457
You see when you make posts like this it makes you look less like scum and also shows me how you're thinking while you play, which is going to make me a better player because its giving me examples of how people think in a mafia game and how people work things out.

But most people prefer to hide their intentions behind innuendo and clever language 100% of the time. I get why that's much, much more fun for you, but I need the odd simple, clear post or I get confused.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
May 23 2019 07:57 GMT
#2458
My other question would be:
Can you see how that interaction with artanis looks weird???

There's like 2 seconds between you scumreading and then townreading him and he only comes up in one more post that you make before the end of night 1 and that was to townread him again....
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
May 23 2019 10:05 GMT
#2486
Its a bit weird that everyone scumread Artanis during the night stage and yet no-one wants to lynch him.

Maybe he's staying just enough under the radar.
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
May 23 2019 10:10 GMT
#2491
On May 23 2019 19:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2019 19:05 Jockmcplop wrote:
Its a bit weird that everyone scumread Artanis during the night stage and yet no-one wants to lynch him.

Maybe he's staying just enough under the radar.

I'm not not willing to lynch Artanis. As I said earlier, I find Calix to be the easiest-to-achieve lynch today because of obstinate koshi.


If its really easy to lynch someone like calix who has alot of people scumreading her don't you think there might be scum making it easy for you?
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
May 23 2019 10:14 GMT
#2494
On May 23 2019 19:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2019 19:10 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 23 2019 19:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 23 2019 19:05 Jockmcplop wrote:
Its a bit weird that everyone scumread Artanis during the night stage and yet no-one wants to lynch him.

Maybe he's staying just enough under the radar.

I'm not not willing to lynch Artanis. As I said earlier, I find Calix to be the easiest-to-achieve lynch today because of obstinate koshi.


If its really easy to lynch someone like calix who has alot of people scumreading her don't you think there might be scum making it easy for you?

We'll see if it's easy. Jock you have to understand that in mafia, people can say one thing and do another when it's crunch time.

Yes, that's a concern. But currently me and TunnelKoshi are the only people voting for Calix, so hows about we talk about how "easy" the lynch is once we have like...more than 2 votes on her ya?


OK thanks for the tip.
The more people explain basic obvious shit like this to me now the less you're all gonna have to in the future

RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
May 23 2019 10:22 GMT
#2500
On May 23 2019 19:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2019 19:14 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 23 2019 19:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 23 2019 19:10 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 23 2019 19:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 23 2019 19:05 Jockmcplop wrote:
Its a bit weird that everyone scumread Artanis during the night stage and yet no-one wants to lynch him.

Maybe he's staying just enough under the radar.

I'm not not willing to lynch Artanis. As I said earlier, I find Calix to be the easiest-to-achieve lynch today because of obstinate koshi.


If its really easy to lynch someone like calix who has alot of people scumreading her don't you think there might be scum making it easy for you?

We'll see if it's easy. Jock you have to understand that in mafia, people can say one thing and do another when it's crunch time.

Yes, that's a concern. But currently me and TunnelKoshi are the only people voting for Calix, so hows about we talk about how "easy" the lynch is once we have like...more than 2 votes on her ya?


OK thanks for the tip.
The more people explain basic obvious shit like this to me now the less you're all gonna have to in the future


Frankly it's not obvious, you're right - a lot of people have stated suspicion of her. But NOT a lot of people have backed up that suspicion with a vote, so we'll see what happens when she's like, THE viable wagon. People put their money where their mouth is so to speak. You know, in exactly the way that Calix DIDN'T where iGrok was concerned yesterday.


I mean we're coming at the discussion from different points of view.

You're focusing on Calix because she's your target - so fair enough.

From the perspective of someone looking at Artanis its strange though. I made a spreadsheet of everyone's reads during the night phase and artanis was scum on everyone's list (except hf), but everyone I have spoken to this morning has kinda got cold feet about that a little bit.

I find that suspicious in itself - regardless of whether its because people are focusing elsewhere - because that's the kind of thing that could easily be directed using distraction without anyone really noticing.




RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
May 23 2019 10:28 GMT
#2508
On May 23 2019 19:26 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2019 19:20 Koshi wrote:
My mafia team is still
Calix
BC
Artanis

BUT

I am now willing to vote somebody else than Calix.

And I still think HF is mafia. For real.

I really dont think iGrok is mafia and maybe mafia is setting up the TvT with Calix/iGrok.

iGrok is just not looking evil. Maybe helpless? Even though he provides his ideas. Dnu.

I feel the thread has put more doubt in iGrok than he deserves for sure.


That's incredibly close to my set of scumreads at the moment.

Not sure about Calix. Also not sure about iGrock.

I may be willing to switch to iGrock if we can lynch hf/artanis if he flips town.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
May 23 2019 10:43 GMT
#2528
On May 23 2019 19:41 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
I may be willing to switch to iGrock if we can lynch hf/artanis if he flips town.


People need to stop saying shit like this.


Why?
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
May 23 2019 11:30 GMT
#2557
On May 23 2019 19:45 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2019 19:43 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 23 2019 19:41 Calix wrote:
I may be willing to switch to iGrock if we can lynch hf/artanis if he flips town.


People need to stop saying shit like this.


Why?


Because if iGrok/ HF/ Artanis are all town then you're basically locking in several mislynches. And if people vote for X so they can lynch Y tomorrow it makes them less willing to re-evaluate their reads.

Also you should vote for people you think are mafia, not just compromise on reads so you can get a lynch you want the next day...when your reads on the people you want lynched will most likely change in that time...therefore making the whole process really dumb.


I mean at the risk of being too open about this i was JUST told that in mafia people say one thing and then do something different at EoD, but then people treat my word as fucking gold when I suggest something with about 65 hours left in the day that I might not want to do but would get me information if people respond to it.

Make your bloody minds up.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
May 23 2019 11:32 GMT
#2560
I've gone totally cold on my conversion scumread btw. Not because of anything he's done but more because I decided to play to my strengths and try to put more emphasis on analyzing data rather than analyzing post content for scumtells.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
May 23 2019 11:37 GMT
#2564
On May 23 2019 20:34 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2019 20:30 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 23 2019 19:45 Calix wrote:
On May 23 2019 19:43 Jockmcplop wrote:
On May 23 2019 19:41 Calix wrote:
I may be willing to switch to iGrock if we can lynch hf/artanis if he flips town.


People need to stop saying shit like this.


Why?


Because if iGrok/ HF/ Artanis are all town then you're basically locking in several mislynches. And if people vote for X so they can lynch Y tomorrow it makes them less willing to re-evaluate their reads.

Also you should vote for people you think are mafia, not just compromise on reads so you can get a lynch you want the next day...when your reads on the people you want lynched will most likely change in that time...therefore making the whole process really dumb.


I mean at the risk of being too open about this i was JUST told that in mafia people say one thing and then do something different at EoD, but then people treat my word as fucking gold when I suggest something with about 65 hours left in the day that I might not want to do but would get me information if people respond to it.

Make your bloody minds up.


I don't wanna be snarky but:

A) Different people have different ways of viewing and playing the game. Much like how everyone has a different view of the world around them. There's no One True Way of playing as town or mafia because everyone has different ideas of what is townie and scummy. If everyone did agree on these things then the game would be super boring.

B) You're currently IN the mafia game. For all you know, the people telling you this stuff could be wording things in a way to make you agree with them for whatever reason. You can't necessarily take us at our word, lol.

Even this post could be worded in such a way as to push an agenda. If you want to ask about basic stuff like roles then you can trust the answer but your questions are about more subjective things so...expect different answers that may or may not truly reflect the person's views.

Hope that makes sense.


Be as snarky as you want I've got fully over my little hissy fit now....
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
May 23 2019 12:34 GMT
#2595
On May 23 2019 21:22 Holyflare wrote:
Just you know, work makes me shit, not a thread leader and passive. Tomorrow I am off work. Be prepared to lynch igrok.


Yeah I'm probably going to lynch iGrok because mafia tells me to.


THUMBS UP EMOJI
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
May 23 2019 14:31 GMT
#2661
On May 23 2019 23:28 Koshi wrote:
Normal hf would have done something fun and fresh and cool and annoying and would piss me off etc.

This hf just sets up things. I feel it.


Did hf fakeclaim night 1?
I don't think he did.
Why the fuck not???????
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
May 23 2019 14:55 GMT
#2693
On May 23 2019 16:57 Jockmcplop wrote:
My other question would be:
Can you see how that interaction with artanis looks weird???

There's like 2 seconds between you scumreading and then townreading him and he only comes up in one more post that you make before the end of night 1 and that was to townread him again....


HF never answered this question and I really don't want it to go unanswered.
Does anyone else think this was super weird.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9714 Posts
May 23 2019 14:57 GMT
#2694
Talking about this interaction:

On May 22 2019 04:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 04:20 Holyflare wrote:
On May 22 2019 04:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
And HF, explain your read progression on me. You disliked me, read my filter, gave a begrudging townread and now you're scumreading me for something that is wholly false.


Eh, yeah, you're pretty correct actually I don't know. I think it's because you're just not around that you kind of fall by the wayside and I'm like "oh, I haven't scum read that guy in a while and nobody else fits, let's call him mafia."

Fuck you why does this make me think you're town

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