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wherebugsgo
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wherebugsgo
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On May 01 2019 10:29 Jockmcplop wrote: Out of character compared to when I was mafia? You gonna ignore my previous post? You should answer this, and don't even think about skipping any of the questions: Can you define what makes people suspicious? What types of things are suspicious and why would they be indicators someone is mafia instead of town? Have you read Incognito's guide? What do you think your #1 priority should be if you are a townie? Regardless of your alignment, at your current rate, you should know you're going to be dead. In addition to that, let's see your reads. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On May 01 2019 10:29 Jockmcplop wrote: Out of character compared to when I was mafia? Compared to when you were carefree, joking and a bit lost as town. Unless you've become a giant ego after 2 games for absolutely no reason and you've decided to laud it over everyone else my conclusion is that you're not a dick and this is bravado to try and appeal to people's emotions and sensibilities. | ||
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Holyflare
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See first sentence. | ||
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wherebugsgo
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see your vote. If you want to convince people that Jack is acting out of character you're gonna have to try harder. There are a whopping two games to base this on, and comparing to the town game I just don't see how you can come to this conclusion. Jack clearly had at least a bit of an attitude and also self-awareness in the townie game: On April 06 2019 11:06 Jockmcplop wrote: Oh great I make one sarcastic comment about hf and he gets the nukes out, everyone else is screaming to murder him and they get nothing. This is bullshit. On April 06 2019 21:54 Jockmcplop wrote: Or it could be that I wasn't really concentrating on this until just now, given that my earlier posts were just snarky comments. Do you think I should have just carried on trying to be silly instead of attempting to read people? So this I think tells us nothing. There are other reasons I think which might be good to consider Jack scum but no one has really brought them up. Maybe I expect too much out of people too :p | ||
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VisceraEyes
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On May 01 2019 09:17 wherebugsgo wrote: I'm 99% sure at this point if I do absolutely nothing to push a different lynch, Jock will continue to get suspicion and probably die. I'm giving him outs and the benefit of the doubt because I'm not confident he's scum. Honestly to me the weirdest thing he's done so far has been his last exit: Only for him to never come back. It's what, 1 am in the UK? So we can't really expect him to come back and defend himself any time soon. Anyway, my opinion has always been that having a single wagon on day 1 is rarely good. No need for me to contribute to that if I see something better, anyway. So.....circumstantial? It looks like you mean that you have no strong feelings on Jock and you're taking a lot of words to say it. Noted. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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wherebugsgo
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On May 01 2019 10:50 VisceraEyes wrote: So.....circumstantial? It looks like you mean that you have no strong feelings on Jock and you're taking a lot of words to say it. Noted. nope, not what I mean. I am actually fine with killing Jack. You know as well as I do if I actually strongly believed Jack to be town I'd try to defend because I hate mislynches. However, I don't think my participation is necessary for Jack to die. Jack's image gets worse in my eyes the longer I don't get responses to questions I've directly posed. Also I think the reasoning people have for voting Jack is a bit weird so far so that's why I'm trying to dig and get people to actually post more about it. | ||
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Holyflare
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On May 01 2019 10:48 wherebugsgo wrote: see your vote. If you want to convince people that Jack is acting out of character you're gonna have to try harder. There are a whopping two games to base this on, and comparing to the town game I just don't see how you can come to this conclusion. Jack clearly had at least a bit of an attitude and also self-awareness in the townie game: So this I think tells us nothing. There are other reasons I think which might be good to consider Jack scum but no one has really brought them up. Maybe I expect too much out of people too :p If you think those posts are anything like this one then I'm afraid your reading comprehension needs some brushing up on. It's a quite obvious thing. Maybe it's a nuance to mere mortals but from an experienced veteran of mafia such as myself, the evidence you've provided is of a guy that is butt hurt but not cocky and certainly not saying he's above the entire site because everyone is so much worse than him. Game 1 where he was mafia, read his QT. You can see it was all a facade and every time he got called out he was afraid it was the end of him. That's extremely understandable for someone new to mafia to feel when someone is pointing out your inconsistencies. See game 2 where he was more concerned with fairness more than anything and, you know, calmly giving reads even when called out. Your quotes literally show a guy defending himself with matter of fact points in a cocky way. See game 3. He gets called out. Everything people taught him in game 1 was to ignore the suspicion and fight back as if it meant nothing. Here he is trying but with the telltale way of fake bravado. No way he thinks he's above everyone on TL after 2 games where game 1 he thought he played badly but everyone complemented him and game 2 he got killed n1 and I don't think he picked out any of the mafia team at that point (could be wrong but don't think so). He's classically over compensating and he's played his hand too early. | ||
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wherebugsgo
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On May 01 2019 11:04 Holyflare wrote: If you think those posts are anything like this one then I'm afraid your reading comprehension needs some brushing up on. It's a quite obvious thing. Maybe it's a nuance to mere mortals but from an experienced veteran of mafia such as myself, the evidence you've provided is of a guy that is butt hurt but not cocky and certainly not saying he's above the entire site because everyone is so much worse than him. Game 1 where he was mafia, read his QT. You can see it was all a facade and every time he got called out he was afraid it was the end of him. That's extremely understandable for someone new to mafia to feel when someone is pointing out your inconsistencies. See game 2 where he was more concerned with fairness more than anything and, you know, calmly giving reads even when called out. Your quotes literally show a guy defending himself with matter of fact points in a cocky way. See game 3. He gets called out. Everything people taught him in game 1 was to ignore the suspicion and fight back as if it meant nothing. Here he is trying but with the telltale way of fake bravado. No way he thinks he's above everyone on TL after 2 games where game 1 he thought he played badly but everyone complemented him and game 2 he got killed n1 and I don't think he picked out any of the mafia team at that point (could be wrong but don't think so). He's classically over compensating and he's played his hand too early. I think I'll choose agree to disagree as far as the differences in playstyle game-to-game go. I don't think it is as significant or as alignment indicative as you seem to think. With that said, we're not coming to wildly different conclusions and I think having different reasons for the same outcome is good in the end. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9715 Posts
Reads incoming I've got some time now | ||
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Jockmcplop
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On May 01 2019 10:35 wherebugsgo wrote: You gonna ignore my previous post? You should answer this, and don't even think about skipping any of the questions: Regardless of your alignment, at your current rate, you should know you're going to be dead. In addition to that, let's see your reads. I have read incognito's guide. At the moment I'm looking for typical mafia stuff, apologetic posting, if anyone has an agenda or is making alot of posts without contributing, inconsistent weird logic. That stuff is suspicious. #1 priority as town for me is finding scum. don't even think about skipping any of the questions: LOL | ||
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wherebugsgo
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On May 01 2019 11:23 Jockmcplop wrote: I have read incognito's guide. At the moment I'm looking for typical mafia stuff, apologetic posting, if anyone has an agenda or is making alot of posts without contributing, inconsistent weird logic. That stuff is suspicious. #1 priority as town for me is finding scum. LOL So after reading Incognito's guide what did you learn? | ||
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Jockmcplop
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On May 01 2019 11:28 wherebugsgo wrote: So after reading Incognito's guide what did you learn? Many, numerous things.Are you getting at something specific? I'm gonna say you want me to say that I should be making myself look town but hey, I'm freestyling today. Something might come of it, you never know. | ||
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Jockmcplop
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wherebugsgo
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On May 01 2019 11:42 Jockmcplop wrote: ps I'm going to spend a while reading the thread so may not reply immediately. Who would you suggest I look at first? I mean, you said you had reads incoming so maybe post those first? | ||
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Jockmcplop
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He's wrong about me but he's genuinely hunting I think. FF could be scum. Just turned up to claim town and hasn't said anything at all. VE is the most blatant town to me so far. His posts are sensible and he's actually contributing. MZ reads town Can't read HF Bugs is interesting. Lots of questions no answers. Probably the most scummy out of everyone, just from the number of questions he's asked people that are irrelevant or pointless. I don't really have any strong scum reads at the moment. | ||
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Jockmcplop
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So far every post you make in my direction is telling me what or how you think i should post or getting upset because I was away when I said I would be away. Anyone piquing your interest? | ||
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wherebugsgo
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On May 01 2019 12:08 Jockmcplop wrote: bugs what are you my dad? So far every post you make in my direction is telling me what or how you think i should post or getting upset because I was away when I said I would be away. Anyone piquing your interest? ##vote Jockmcplop You were wrong earlier, you're definitely the most interesting person so far. | ||
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