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On May 03 2019 09:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
All the one-liners and non-paragraph posts?
I get a lot of flak from the old-timers for that shit, you don't wanna be one of those guys MZ.
On May 01 2019 01:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also I'm DEATH-ACCURATELY-EAGLE-EYE-WATCHING Grackaroni, per his own request.
On May 02 2019 02:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
OH FUCK I FAILED WBG'S "READ OP" TEST
le sigh
WBG you expected me to fail, don't lie.
On May 03 2019 03:17 VisceraEyes wrote:I'd still fear-lynch the shit out of you frand. No hard feelings.
Back in the day this stuff drove me up the wall lol, I've chilled out a lot in the last 5 or 6 years lol.
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On May 03 2019 09:46 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2019 09:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 03 2019 08:14 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 03 2019 07:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 03 2019 07:54 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 03 2019 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm fine lynching with HFs claim.
I need to think more about VE's Pandain push. I very much hate when players come in and try to claim towncred for stuff they weren't responsible for so I'm finding myself agreeing with a lot of what VE was saying.
However if HF's redcheck is real it makes it look like VE was trying to chainsaw defend Bugs. do you have any real opinions? Do you? I think Pandain's post N1 stuff looks terrible. I was liking what HF posted before he even claimed a check on you so that was just a warm fuzzy. VE is almost always town, however the Pandain push is going to look very suspect if you flip red. I feel like that was pretty obvious from my post. If you want more opinions on individuals you'll have to wait until I've filtered people. If you have anyone you'd like me to address first just let me know. from my standpoint and the knowledge I have this is a post that manages to say absolutely nothing. "I was liking what HF posted" -> cool, if you're scum you already have the knowledge that HF is town "VE is almost always town" why? slides into hypothetical about VE if I flip scum -> knows that this will never happen so it's a completely empty thing to say MZ is setting up a lynch on Pandain after I flip here with this post. Back when VE started playing, I pushed for his mislynch a lot for behavior that he's displaying right now, after I played with him more I realized that's just how he plays town. So I have a town read on him. I hated Pandain's post flip stuff as we've already been over, however we were in the middle of discussing you vs HF when VE popped in with the posts about Pandain. I even agree with VE on the content there, however if you flip scum (which I'm fairly sure you will) it looks like VE made an out of character chainsaw defense of you before HF claimed. However its your last little line which caught my attention, what do you mean by setting up a lynch? First off I have zero thread pull so suggesting I'm going to get someone lynched is hysterical. Secondly, you have talked about Pandain probably more than any other player in this game, you've gone from town reading him, to calling him scum, to calling him town, to listing him in your "possibles" category and with your last post you seem completely confused with him. All that is to say, why do you have an issue with me reading Pandain as scummy when you have literally done that twice or three times yourself? blah blah blah first paragraph is lots of nothing about VE and me flipping scum, it won't happen. If you're scum, I'm getting the impression that you're setting up two things here. One obviously won't happen because if you're scum you already know I'm town. The natural progression is for the thing that you're not highlighting right now to be the thing you set up when I flip -> lynch Pandain I don't personally see Pandain as scummy and I find this characterization by you really strange because if you are town you can just read my posts and take them at literal face value, it's not like I'm trying to hide anything. Even in the post where I list him in "possibles" I say: Show nested quote +
I'd personally put Pandain in "probably not" but whatever, I've been wrong before.
The only thing you've done of note all game is sheep people, particularly HF and now seemingly you're setting everything up to sheep VE.
Bugs this waffling on Pandain is not working for me. You have called him scum and backed off several times now. I'm all for people "evolving" their views but for you to say wanting Pandain dead makes me scum is flat out ignoring your own (very recent) reads. If you want to accuse me of sheeping go right ahead, I wasn't around at the day flip so I didn't have the chance to be the first person to talk about how trash Pandain's posts were. You talk about some "setup" as if you also weren't reading Pandain as red yesterday. You can talk all you want about transparency of reads and that stuff but at some point it just starts to look like you're trying to figure out what the "right" read is to have on Pandain bc holy smokes do you talk about him a lot in your filter.
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On May 03 2019 09:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's actually why I ended up playing video mafia as long as I did, that style meshes better with my style of playing the game - my posts are short and conversational. If I walk up to you on a street I'm not going to hand you a letter, I'm going to say "what's up". This game is meant to emulate that dynamic, medium notwithstanding.
Anyway, rant over. I will never stop shit-posting, so long as I'm protected by the sub-forum by-laws that allow me to do so in the name of playing the game.
<3 love you long time.
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On May 03 2019 10:03 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2019 07:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 03 2019 07:54 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 03 2019 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm fine lynching with HFs claim.
I need to think more about VE's Pandain push. I very much hate when players come in and try to claim towncred for stuff they weren't responsible for so I'm finding myself agreeing with a lot of what VE was saying.
However if HF's redcheck is real it makes it look like VE was trying to chainsaw defend Bugs. do you have any real opinions? Do you? I think Pandain's post N1 stuff looks terrible. I was liking what HF posted before he even claimed a check on you so that was just a warm fuzzy. VE is almost always town, however the Pandain push is going to look very suspect if you flip red. I feel like that was pretty obvious from my post. If you want more opinions on individuals you'll have to wait until I've filtered people. If you have anyone you'd like me to address first just let me know. Let's hear what you have to say on BC. I'm assuming right now you think he's town and I want to hear why. I also want to know what you think of Koshi and FF. Like I said to FF feel free to assume I'm town as you respond to me, because that's what I'll flip. If you're town, it's going to make your life much easier later.
ohhh now we're having fun, why on earth do you think I read BC as town?
I'll get to the others in a second but I wanna know where this "MZ reads BC town" came from.
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On May 03 2019 10:37 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2019 10:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 03 2019 10:03 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 03 2019 07:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 03 2019 07:54 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 03 2019 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm fine lynching with HFs claim.
I need to think more about VE's Pandain push. I very much hate when players come in and try to claim towncred for stuff they weren't responsible for so I'm finding myself agreeing with a lot of what VE was saying.
However if HF's redcheck is real it makes it look like VE was trying to chainsaw defend Bugs. do you have any real opinions? Do you? I think Pandain's post N1 stuff looks terrible. I was liking what HF posted before he even claimed a check on you so that was just a warm fuzzy. VE is almost always town, however the Pandain push is going to look very suspect if you flip red. I feel like that was pretty obvious from my post. If you want more opinions on individuals you'll have to wait until I've filtered people. If you have anyone you'd like me to address first just let me know. Let's hear what you have to say on BC. I'm assuming right now you think he's town and I want to hear why. I also want to know what you think of Koshi and FF. Like I said to FF feel free to assume I'm town as you respond to me, because that's what I'll flip. If you're town, it's going to make your life much easier later. ohhh now we're having fun, why on earth do you think I read BC as town? I'll get to the others in a second but I wanna know where this "MZ reads BC town" came from. just a hunch, since you agreed with the same wagon on d1, and you think I am scum & making associations on VE & Pandain. I find it hard to believe that anyone could think I am scum with BC but maybe I just don't really understand how mafia works anymore.
On May 02 2019 00:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Order of people who need to be lynched currently.
Jock
Rels
FF
Rels and FF are interchangeable atm.
If Igrok isn't modkilled then add him to that list if he magically comes back to hit the minimum post requirements.
In terms of everyone else.
BC - Town
Pandain - lean town
WBG -lean town
HF - lean town
VE - Lean town
Koshi - Neutral
Rayn - Neutral
Grack, MZ and Vivax are all on my watch list atm as they arent performing as they should as town.
On May 03 2019 04:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Mostly caught up at the moment.
Pandain/Grack are both shady to me thus far from what i've read. Mainly as both of them have been fairly active overall but the content they have both posted is basically non existent. This is very very similar to how Pandain posted in end of the world mafia. Ie situationally active and talks about things but never seriously pushes them. Trying to hard imo to appear as town while providing no effort. The next big tell for me is he actively agreed with the Jock Lynch but opted to vote for someone who hadn't started posting yet then swapped his vote with 0 stated reasons.
Grack literally had a filter of 0 content for how long it is so he is clearly around but not doing anything of value.
Although at this point I feel that one of HF/Rayn/Bugs could be mafia. Unsure of who. Bugs as mafia (in the past) when I have played with him has been super aggressive similar to how aggressive I can be and hes not this game. However I disagree with basically all his reads and I think he should be better than that.
I personally find reading HF and Rayn insanely hard and until I am 100% sure one of them is mafia I am not prepared for the potential shit storm that creates.
Well I really don't like either of these two incredibly opportunistic posts right here. And you and BC could very easily be scum together so let's not get all caught up in wifom as to why you two "couldn't be scum together" shall we.
I would say BC is less likely to flip red than Pandain but I certainly don't have him as turbo town.
Koshi is null:
On May 02 2019 05:52 Koshi wrote:
I am shooting Fefe tonight. #Truestory
But I would love to get a follow on with that.
Rels... might actually be a great follow on if Pandain isn't scum:
On May 03 2019 02:10 Rels wrote:
gotta stop now, lunch break is over. I'm almost caught up, bugs and Vivax scums. Vivax is a really good wagon to start D2 with as he doesn't know how to defend as scum
This post right here was two hours before them flip, funny how it mentions vivax who scum probably would have known by then was gonna get modkilled...
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On May 03 2019 11:01 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2019 10:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 03 2019 10:37 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 03 2019 10:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 03 2019 10:03 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 03 2019 07:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 03 2019 07:54 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 03 2019 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm fine lynching with HFs claim.
I need to think more about VE's Pandain push. I very much hate when players come in and try to claim towncred for stuff they weren't responsible for so I'm finding myself agreeing with a lot of what VE was saying.
However if HF's redcheck is real it makes it look like VE was trying to chainsaw defend Bugs. do you have any real opinions? Do you? I think Pandain's post N1 stuff looks terrible. I was liking what HF posted before he even claimed a check on you so that was just a warm fuzzy. VE is almost always town, however the Pandain push is going to look very suspect if you flip red. I feel like that was pretty obvious from my post. If you want more opinions on individuals you'll have to wait until I've filtered people. If you have anyone you'd like me to address first just let me know. Let's hear what you have to say on BC. I'm assuming right now you think he's town and I want to hear why. I also want to know what you think of Koshi and FF. Like I said to FF feel free to assume I'm town as you respond to me, because that's what I'll flip. If you're town, it's going to make your life much easier later. ohhh now we're having fun, why on earth do you think I read BC as town? I'll get to the others in a second but I wanna know where this "MZ reads BC town" came from. just a hunch, since you agreed with the same wagon on d1, and you think I am scum & making associations on VE & Pandain. I find it hard to believe that anyone could think I am scum with BC but maybe I just don't really understand how mafia works anymore. On May 02 2019 00:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Order of people who need to be lynched currently.
Jock
Rels
FF
Rels and FF are interchangeable atm.
If Igrok isn't modkilled then add him to that list if he magically comes back to hit the minimum post requirements.
In terms of everyone else.
BC - Town
Pandain - lean town
WBG -lean town
HF - lean town
VE - Lean town
Koshi - Neutral
Rayn - Neutral
Grack, MZ and Vivax are all on my watch list atm as they arent performing as they should as town. On May 03 2019 04:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Mostly caught up at the moment.
Pandain/Grack are both shady to me thus far from what i've read. Mainly as both of them have been fairly active overall but the content they have both posted is basically non existent. This is very very similar to how Pandain posted in end of the world mafia. Ie situationally active and talks about things but never seriously pushes them. Trying to hard imo to appear as town while providing no effort. The next big tell for me is he actively agreed with the Jock Lynch but opted to vote for someone who hadn't started posting yet then swapped his vote with 0 stated reasons.
Grack literally had a filter of 0 content for how long it is so he is clearly around but not doing anything of value.
Although at this point I feel that one of HF/Rayn/Bugs could be mafia. Unsure of who. Bugs as mafia (in the past) when I have played with him has been super aggressive similar to how aggressive I can be and hes not this game. However I disagree with basically all his reads and I think he should be better than that.
I personally find reading HF and Rayn insanely hard and until I am 100% sure one of them is mafia I am not prepared for the potential shit storm that creates.
Well I really don't like either of these two incredibly opportunistic posts right here. And you and BC could very easily be scum together so let's not get all caught up in wifom as to why you two "couldn't be scum together" shall we. I would say BC is less likely to flip red than Pandain but I certainly don't have him as turbo town. Koshi is null: On May 02 2019 05:52 Koshi wrote:
I am shooting Fefe tonight. #Truestory But I would love to get a follow on with that. Rels... might actually be a great follow on if Pandain isn't scum: On May 03 2019 02:10 Rels wrote:
gotta stop now, lunch break is over. I'm almost caught up, bugs and Vivax scums. Vivax is a really good wagon to start D2 with as he doesn't know how to defend as scum This post right here was two hours before them flip, funny how it mentions vivax who scum probably would have known by then was gonna get modkilled... okay, so just to clarify: 1. you're assuming I am scum 2. you're fairly convinced Pandain is scum 3. You're townish on BC? Less likely than Pandain but not turbo town? What's keeping you from taking a stance on BC? 4. Koshi is null/unreadable. 5. Rels might be a good lead IFF Pandain is not scum because he might have slipped on knowing about Vivax. Is that right? Can you clarify on #3? I want to hear more about BC.
Jesus you are dense
You have a red check backing up good analysis done by HF, of course I think you're scum
Yes
I have no idea how you got townish on BC, if anything I'd say scummish. The only reason you don't think I have a stance on BC is bc you're being obtuse. I think he made two very opportunistic posts and aside from that has done fuck all. Rels is probably scum before BC because of his TMI post but if by some godawful stroke of luck you are a miller and Pandain is also town then BC would be next up of most likely suspects in my eyes.
Yes
Yes
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On May 03 2019 11:02 wherebugsgo wrote:
also why did you ignore FF?
Probably town:
On May 03 2019 09:41 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2019 09:34 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 02 2019 06:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
I accept the shot on me as I'm not a role I will play this next phase though i swear let's play, FF. Who's scum? You can assume both me and HF are town for this exercise. Why would I assume you are town you've been red checked I'd probably say rels because he's mia and seeing that vivax was going to not play he probably screwed off himself
That's a good call right there and I agree with it.
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On May 04 2019 00:38 Holyflare wrote:
That's not true. I made a case on Jock and got him lynched. I made a case on Pandain and he'll realistically get lynched. He's done nothing today.
What happened to the red check on bugs?
What happened to your case on bugs?
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HF you really need to explain your whole bugs thing.
Also Pandain's absence is really annoying
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VE what do you think of BC and Rels?
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Ok two hours to go.
I want to do shenanigans. HF not around to defend or explain his actions is making me not like the bugs lynch more and more.
Like I said early game, I'd rather not just lynch through the most active voices who find themselves on the wrong thread sentiment.
I would like to go after Rels for the tmi post and complete afk. After the death of the gf I'd imagine scum morale is pretty low and if townies are pointing fingers at townies their best strategy is to lurk.
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On May 04 2019 03:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Lynch is in 25.5 hrs. I appreciate the enthusiasm though MZ.
Oh... sorry I guess I'm a little trigger happy after missing last vote.
I was reading the thread and wondering why the day mostly felt like Bugs, HF, you, and I all talking to each other.
I actually think I stand by a Rels lynch though.
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On May 04 2019 03:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ya I'm not voting Rels. If you want to get down on a lurker lynch, I suggest Pandain as A) he's lurking B) he has content by which to judge him and C) there's a preestablished interest in removing him from town.
The only person AGAINST his lynch vocally is the other wagon.
That you're poopooing his lynch makes you WAY more suspicious to me.
I wouldn't really say Pandain lurking in the same way Rels is. Rels seems to have given up which is what I'd expect whereas Pandain was still trying when he was here. I think your case against Pandain is good, I've said that a bunch of times, but I think you're tunneled on him at this point and not considering other options.
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VE I think the thread is not sold on bugs anymore bc HF has waffled so hard. Your tunnel on Pandain might be clouding your judgement a bit.
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On May 04 2019 04:28 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2019 03:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Higher probability scum.
Bugs only looks like mafia because of how he's flailing here, now. His play before now looked pretty null to me, leaning townie. The exchange between he and HF is a tough call though - like I said before, he looks like mafia because of how "resigned" he is to his fate. He even didn't believe HF's claim all along and STILL felt "momentum to lynch" him, even after the claim was retracted.
Further, he looks worse because he ultimately believed HF - though the progression looks relatively natural, it could just as easily be him realizing the miller angle slowly, as others were realizing it too. As a townie, MY gut reaction is "WELP LOOKS LIKE WE GETEM BOYS!!!" if someone fake-claims on me, I INSTANTLY assume they're mafia trying to fuck me. It never really looked like bugs had that reaction.
HOWEVER
In the spirit of transparency, I'm not confident in my ability to accurately read bugs or his intentions. He's always been something of a wild-card to me and that frustration has bubbled over several times in our history. That could be coloring my hesitation to call him scum - I've been wrong SO MUCH before about Bugs. But like I said before - his play lacks a sharp edge that his mafia game typically has, so I've been leaning town most of the game. First few bits is why I disliked him. Guess Pandain is the safer lynch but I really don't care tbh.
Lmao what is this shit HF?
What happened to the bugs stuff?
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On May 04 2019 04:49 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2019 04:28 Holyflare wrote:On May 04 2019 03:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Higher probability scum.
Bugs only looks like mafia because of how he's flailing here, now. His play before now looked pretty null to me, leaning townie. The exchange between he and HF is a tough call though - like I said before, he looks like mafia because of how "resigned" he is to his fate. He even didn't believe HF's claim all along and STILL felt "momentum to lynch" him, even after the claim was retracted.
Further, he looks worse because he ultimately believed HF - though the progression looks relatively natural, it could just as easily be him realizing the miller angle slowly, as others were realizing it too. As a townie, MY gut reaction is "WELP LOOKS LIKE WE GETEM BOYS!!!" if someone fake-claims on me, I INSTANTLY assume they're mafia trying to fuck me. It never really looked like bugs had that reaction.
HOWEVER
In the spirit of transparency, I'm not confident in my ability to accurately read bugs or his intentions. He's always been something of a wild-card to me and that frustration has bubbled over several times in our history. That could be coloring my hesitation to call him scum - I've been wrong SO MUCH before about Bugs. But like I said before - his play lacks a sharp edge that his mafia game typically has, so I've been leaning town most of the game. First few bits is why I disliked him. Guess Pandain is the safer lynch bu t I really don't care tbh. Did you not get this bit?
What do you make of that VE?
Also what do you make of FF saying he's down for Rels and then down for Pandain just as quickly?
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Ok BC
I can agree with a fair bit of that, but I want to know why you've got Grack listed as a red.
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On May 04 2019 06:44 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2019 04:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 04 2019 04:49 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 04 2019 04:28 Holyflare wrote:On May 04 2019 03:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Higher probability scum.
Bugs only looks like mafia because of how he's flailing here, now. His play before now looked pretty null to me, leaning townie. The exchange between he and HF is a tough call though - like I said before, he looks like mafia because of how "resigned" he is to his fate. He even didn't believe HF's claim all along and STILL felt "momentum to lynch" him, even after the claim was retracted.
Further, he looks worse because he ultimately believed HF - though the progression looks relatively natural, it could just as easily be him realizing the miller angle slowly, as others were realizing it too. As a townie, MY gut reaction is "WELP LOOKS LIKE WE GETEM BOYS!!!" if someone fake-claims on me, I INSTANTLY assume they're mafia trying to fuck me. It never really looked like bugs had that reaction.
HOWEVER
In the spirit of transparency, I'm not confident in my ability to accurately read bugs or his intentions. He's always been something of a wild-card to me and that frustration has bubbled over several times in our history. That could be coloring my hesitation to call him scum - I've been wrong SO MUCH before about Bugs. But like I said before - his play lacks a sharp edge that his mafia game typically has, so I've been leaning town most of the game. First few bits is why I disliked him. Guess Pandain is the safer lynch bu t I really don't care tbh. Did you not get this bit? What do you make of that VE? Also what do you make of FF saying he's down for Rels and then down for Pandain just as quickly? What do you think of me saying I'm down for a rels lynch then down for pandain just as quickly? VE obviously didn't read into it and you obviously have some suspicious thoughts about it or you wouldn't have brought it up. Or were you just trying to act like you're scumhunting by putting names in front of active townies?
I think you're just bouncing around to whatever wagon is the most convenient. Tell me why I shouldn't think that.
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So VE and Bugs, after you kill me tomorrow then where are you gonna go?
Let's play the same game you did yesterday bugs, as a thought experiment pretend I'm gonna flip town. You still have to find more scum. Are you gonna go back to Pandain VE? Does Pandain have a valid point about Koshi?
Personally I was fairly sure Rels was gonna pop scum so that flip surprised me. I had initially given fecal feast a slight townread yesterday but seeing how he was willing to vote just about anyone has me on the fence. I haven't been through his filter in a minute but I don't recall him really giving a single read.
BC's absence continues to frustrate me although I recognize that's pretty rich coming from myself with the spotty activity I've had.
With Rels dead, I will probably be voting Pandain tomorrow although I'm gonna have to reread Koshi and BC. VE is my strongest townread, I've got Grack as slight town still and I'm null on Bugs. I feel like HF had some good points on bugs early in the last day cycle but watching him collapse has made me doubt them. Even though HF flipped town he just seemed like he didn't give a shit at the end.
Honestly worst comes to worst I'd feel comfortable lynching through Rayn's scum list.
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