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On May 06 2019 21:20 Pandain wrote:
Medic should just always protect VE. It will make an "endgame" scenario alot easier if there's one confirmed town.
Also VE I hope you know at that point no one is confirmed. For instance, if Bugs manages to survive despite being regularly seen as town, he becomes suspicious.
I believe I've shown a willingness to change my mind in this game.
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I was faltering on HF even, when FF came in talking about Shenannies I was so tempted. 
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On May 06 2019 16:13 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2019 06:19 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 06 2019 06:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 06 2019 06:14 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 06 2019 06:08 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 06 2019 05:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Heh that guy just called MZ a newb.
So like, everyone good with MZ>Slam or... Lol that legitimately hurt me I really can't promise great activity and we've got a ton of mislynches to burn so I'm fine taking the L today. Let's talk about tomorrow. I'm not sold on slam as scum but I'll try and read him today. If we're going on the assumption scum was super inactive this game then FF is also a possibility. Ya give everyone a read - if you're good with taking the flip today then everything you post will be useful afterward. I'm not sure how closely you're following, but in the spirit of saving time, me and Bugs are basically clear and we have the largest, most daunting filters. If you left us out of your thoughts, I wouldn't be offended. Yeah like I said earlier you're my strongest townread, I'll give you a skim but I'm gonna focus on unknowns. Lowkey glad BC got shot bc I was not getting town vibes from him but he must have died for a reason so I guess I'll start there. UUUGGGHHHH MZ DON'T MINDMELD WITH ME WHEN I WANT TO LYNCH YOU BRO But scum has the info to mindmeld anyone they want
Mafia don't know the info in my head. They know my alignment but they don't know how I think. My thoughts are my own.
When someone comes in and says the exact same thing I'm thinking at the same time I'm thinking it, I take note. It's usually important in one way or another.
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On May 03 2019 11:12 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2019 11:01 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 03 2019 10:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 03 2019 10:37 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 03 2019 10:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 03 2019 10:03 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 03 2019 07:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 03 2019 07:54 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 03 2019 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm fine lynching with HFs claim.
I need to think more about VE's Pandain push. I very much hate when players come in and try to claim towncred for stuff they weren't responsible for so I'm finding myself agreeing with a lot of what VE was saying.
However if HF's redcheck is real it makes it look like VE was trying to chainsaw defend Bugs. do you have any real opinions? Do you? I think Pandain's post N1 stuff looks terrible. I was liking what HF posted before he even claimed a check on you so that was just a warm fuzzy. VE is almost always town, however the Pandain push is going to look very suspect if you flip red. I feel like that was pretty obvious from my post. If you want more opinions on individuals you'll have to wait until I've filtered people. If you have anyone you'd like me to address first just let me know. Let's hear what you have to say on BC. I'm assuming right now you think he's town and I want to hear why. I also want to know what you think of Koshi and FF. Like I said to FF feel free to assume I'm town as you respond to me, because that's what I'll flip. If you're town, it's going to make your life much easier later. ohhh now we're having fun, why on earth do you think I read BC as town? I'll get to the others in a second but I wanna know where this "MZ reads BC town" came from. just a hunch, since you agreed with the same wagon on d1, and you think I am scum & making associations on VE & Pandain. I find it hard to believe that anyone could think I am scum with BC but maybe I just don't really understand how mafia works anymore. On May 02 2019 00:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Order of people who need to be lynched currently.
Jock
Rels
FF
Rels and FF are interchangeable atm.
If Igrok isn't modkilled then add him to that list if he magically comes back to hit the minimum post requirements.
In terms of everyone else.
BC - Town
Pandain - lean town
WBG -lean town
HF - lean town
VE - Lean town
Koshi - Neutral
Rayn - Neutral
Grack, MZ and Vivax are all on my watch list atm as they arent performing as they should as town. On May 03 2019 04:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Mostly caught up at the moment.
Pandain/Grack are both shady to me thus far from what i've read. Mainly as both of them have been fairly active overall but the content they have both posted is basically non existent. This is very very similar to how Pandain posted in end of the world mafia. Ie situationally active and talks about things but never seriously pushes them. Trying to hard imo to appear as town while providing no effort. The next big tell for me is he actively agreed with the Jock Lynch but opted to vote for someone who hadn't started posting yet then swapped his vote with 0 stated reasons.
Grack literally had a filter of 0 content for how long it is so he is clearly around but not doing anything of value.
Although at this point I feel that one of HF/Rayn/Bugs could be mafia. Unsure of who. Bugs as mafia (in the past) when I have played with him has been super aggressive similar to how aggressive I can be and hes not this game. However I disagree with basically all his reads and I think he should be better than that.
I personally find reading HF and Rayn insanely hard and until I am 100% sure one of them is mafia I am not prepared for the potential shit storm that creates.
Well I really don't like either of these two incredibly opportunistic posts right here. And you and BC could very easily be scum together so let's not get all caught up in wifom as to why you two "couldn't be scum together" shall we. I would say BC is less likely to flip red than Pandain but I certainly don't have him as turbo town. Koshi is null: On May 02 2019 05:52 Koshi wrote:
I am shooting Fefe tonight. #Truestory But I would love to get a follow on with that. Rels... might actually be a great follow on if Pandain isn't scum: On May 03 2019 02:10 Rels wrote:
gotta stop now, lunch break is over. I'm almost caught up, bugs and Vivax scums. Vivax is a really good wagon to start D2 with as he doesn't know how to defend as scum This post right here was two hours before them flip, funny how it mentions vivax who scum probably would have known by then was gonna get modkilled... okay, so just to clarify: 1. you're assuming I am scum 2. you're fairly convinced Pandain is scum 3. You're townish on BC? Less likely than Pandain but not turbo town? What's keeping you from taking a stance on BC? 4. Koshi is null/unreadable. 5. Rels might be a good lead IFF Pandain is not scum because he might have slipped on knowing about Vivax. Is that right? Can you clarify on #3? I want to hear more about BC. Jesus you are dense You have a red check backing up good analysis done by HF, of course I think you're scum Yes I have no idea how you got townish on BC, if anything I'd say scummish. The only reason you don't think I have a stance on BC is bc you're being obtuse. I think he made two very opportunistic posts and aside from that has done fuck all. Rels is probably scum before BC because of his TMI post but if by some godawful stroke of luck you are a miller and Pandain is also town then BC would be next up of most likely suspects in my eyes. Yes Yes
Null reads Koshi here, late-like. I'm interested in why Koshi still reads as Null at this point in the game, but he's fine with even advocates Rels lynch over the first couple days.On May 03 2019 11:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Probably town: Show nested quote +On May 03 2019 09:41 Fecalfeast wrote:On May 03 2019 09:34 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 02 2019 06:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
I accept the shot on me as I'm not a role I will play this next phase though i swear let's play, FF. Who's scum? You can assume both me and HF are town for this exercise. Why would I assume you are town you've been red checked I'd probably say rels because he's mia and seeing that vivax was going to not play he probably screwed off himself That's a good call right there and I agree with it.
Also goes on to say that FF is town, provides reasoning.
While he said he "wants followup from Koshi" on the Fefe shot, he never seems to press the matter. Koshi threatened to shoot a townread. Why Koshi still null bro?
On May 04 2019 09:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2019 06:44 Fecalfeast wrote:On May 04 2019 04:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 04 2019 04:49 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 04 2019 04:28 Holyflare wrote:On May 04 2019 03:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Higher probability scum.
Bugs only looks like mafia because of how he's flailing here, now. His play before now looked pretty null to me, leaning townie. The exchange between he and HF is a tough call though - like I said before, he looks like mafia because of how "resigned" he is to his fate. He even didn't believe HF's claim all along and STILL felt "momentum to lynch" him, even after the claim was retracted.
Further, he looks worse because he ultimately believed HF - though the progression looks relatively natural, it could just as easily be him realizing the miller angle slowly, as others were realizing it too. As a townie, MY gut reaction is "WELP LOOKS LIKE WE GETEM BOYS!!!" if someone fake-claims on me, I INSTANTLY assume they're mafia trying to fuck me. It never really looked like bugs had that reaction.
HOWEVER
In the spirit of transparency, I'm not confident in my ability to accurately read bugs or his intentions. He's always been something of a wild-card to me and that frustration has bubbled over several times in our history. That could be coloring my hesitation to call him scum - I've been wrong SO MUCH before about Bugs. But like I said before - his play lacks a sharp edge that his mafia game typically has, so I've been leaning town most of the game. First few bits is why I disliked him. Guess Pandain is the safer lynch bu t I really don't care tbh. Did you not get this bit? What do you make of that VE? Also what do you make of FF saying he's down for Rels and then down for Pandain just as quickly? What do you think of me saying I'm down for a rels lynch then down for pandain just as quickly? VE obviously didn't read into it and you obviously have some suspicious thoughts about it or you wouldn't have brought it up. Or were you just trying to act like you're scumhunting by putting names in front of active townies? I think you're just bouncing around to whatever wagon is the most convenient. Tell me why I shouldn't think that.
WAIT JUST A GOD DAMN MOMENT!!!!!!!!
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Advocates for a Rels lynch at a time when Koshi is just as aggressively null, even worse so. But then flips on Fefe, someone he has thought was town based on actual reasoning in the thread, BEFORE considering aggressively null Koshi AGAIN!?!??!?!?
MZ is the opportunist we're looking for here guys. He's been JUST THIS SIDE of active enough to be outside of the major lurkers, while simultaneously keeping our eyes focused on our own biases.
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BC kill screams ITS NOT MEAPAK too, which at this late stage is super null but worth noting. MZ good enough to design a night kill.
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I think I'm shipping it, he said he's willing to eat lynch, I'm down to test it.
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Fecalfeast, Alakaslam, Grackaroni and MZ -
Myself Bugs and Pandain have done what we can to keep this game relatively active. You four are now the problem. Before the problem was too big for us to contend with. Now the problem is down to approximately half the game and there's only one mafia left, which means that of the four of you, three of you should be doing more to establish your innocence.
I understand that at least half of you (Alakaslam and MZ) have stated already that activity is going to be an issue this cycle. All I ask is that while you're here you spend as much time as possible productively - that means not coming in here and trolling or arguing. Spend your time trying to find the last mafia - give your honest, best attempt at finding the last one and tell us who you think we should lynch and why.
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I'm temporarily clearing Pandain on Activity/Effort. If he wins as mafia, I won't accept any complaining about me "clearing the mafia" - he's actually here trying to push lynches/opinions. If he's mafia doing this while you four are town doing what you're doing, he deserves to win and you know it.
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On May 07 2019 00:28 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2019 23:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
Fecalfeast, Alakaslam, Grackaroni and MZ -
Myself Bugs and Pandain have done what we can to keep this game relatively active. You four are now the problem. Before the problem was too big for us to contend with. Now the problem is down to approximately half the game and there's only one mafia left, which means that of the four of you, three of you should be doing more to establish your innocence.
I understand that at least half of you (Alakaslam and MZ) have stated already that activity is going to be an issue this cycle. All I ask is that while you're here you spend as much time as possible productively - that means not coming in here and trolling or arguing. Spend your time trying to find the last mafia - give your honest, best attempt at finding the last one and tell us who you think we should lynch and why. It looks like you are certain MZ is it though?
I'm convinced enough to vote in spite of the case against Pandain provided - that's certain enough for now.
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On May 07 2019 00:29 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2019 23:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm temporarily clearing Pandain on Activity/Effort. If he wins as mafia, I won't accept any complaining about me "clearing the mafia" - he's actually here trying to push lynches/opinions. If he's mafia doing this while you four are town doing what you're doing, he deserves to win and you know it. This is bad logic- deserving to win doesn’t mean we cede to him
I'm not saying we cede to him, I'm saying that today I'm not considering lynching him. I'm lynching inside you 4 today, invariably. Nothing will sway me from that course. Pandain has done enough the last two days to live through today, that's my point.
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On May 07 2019 00:32 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2019 00:31 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 07 2019 00:29 Alakaslam wrote:On May 06 2019 23:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm temporarily clearing Pandain on Activity/Effort. If he wins as mafia, I won't accept any complaining about me "clearing the mafia" - he's actually here trying to push lynches/opinions. If he's mafia doing this while you four are town doing what you're doing, he deserves to win and you know it. This is bad logic- deserving to win doesn’t mean we cede to him I'm not saying we cede to him, I'm saying that today I'm not considering lynching him. I'm lynching inside you 4 today, invariably. Nothing will sway me from that course. Pandain has done enough the last two days to live through today, that's my point. OH I thought you were like “Pandain lives for all time” and I was thinking “oh fuck that” I can honor this then. I will MZ
Werd.
Where the OMGUSers hanging out these days? I tried to hit it up and got a 404 like WAAAAAT?
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On May 07 2019 00:54 Alakaslam wrote:
You do know Pandain monologued in the thread right? As in super villain “this is why evil is how it is” stuff
He did tho
Ehhhhh....quote?
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On May 06 2019 22:13 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2019 11:12 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 03 2019 11:01 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 03 2019 10:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 03 2019 10:37 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 03 2019 10:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 03 2019 10:03 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 03 2019 07:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 03 2019 07:54 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 03 2019 07:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm fine lynching with HFs claim.
I need to think more about VE's Pandain push. I very much hate when players come in and try to claim towncred for stuff they weren't responsible for so I'm finding myself agreeing with a lot of what VE was saying.
However if HF's redcheck is real it makes it look like VE was trying to chainsaw defend Bugs. do you have any real opinions? Do you? I think Pandain's post N1 stuff looks terrible. I was liking what HF posted before he even claimed a check on you so that was just a warm fuzzy. VE is almost always town, however the Pandain push is going to look very suspect if you flip red. I feel like that was pretty obvious from my post. If you want more opinions on individuals you'll have to wait until I've filtered people. If you have anyone you'd like me to address first just let me know. Let's hear what you have to say on BC. I'm assuming right now you think he's town and I want to hear why. I also want to know what you think of Koshi and FF. Like I said to FF feel free to assume I'm town as you respond to me, because that's what I'll flip. If you're town, it's going to make your life much easier later. ohhh now we're having fun, why on earth do you think I read BC as town? I'll get to the others in a second but I wanna know where this "MZ reads BC town" came from. just a hunch, since you agreed with the same wagon on d1, and you think I am scum & making associations on VE & Pandain. I find it hard to believe that anyone could think I am scum with BC but maybe I just don't really understand how mafia works anymore. On May 02 2019 00:49 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Order of people who need to be lynched currently.
Jock
Rels
FF
Rels and FF are interchangeable atm.
If Igrok isn't modkilled then add him to that list if he magically comes back to hit the minimum post requirements.
In terms of everyone else.
BC - Town
Pandain - lean town
WBG -lean town
HF - lean town
VE - Lean town
Koshi - Neutral
Rayn - Neutral
Grack, MZ and Vivax are all on my watch list atm as they arent performing as they should as town. On May 03 2019 04:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Mostly caught up at the moment.
Pandain/Grack are both shady to me thus far from what i've read. Mainly as both of them have been fairly active overall but the content they have both posted is basically non existent. This is very very similar to how Pandain posted in end of the world mafia. Ie situationally active and talks about things but never seriously pushes them. Trying to hard imo to appear as town while providing no effort. The next big tell for me is he actively agreed with the Jock Lynch but opted to vote for someone who hadn't started posting yet then swapped his vote with 0 stated reasons.
Grack literally had a filter of 0 content for how long it is so he is clearly around but not doing anything of value.
Although at this point I feel that one of HF/Rayn/Bugs could be mafia. Unsure of who. Bugs as mafia (in the past) when I have played with him has been super aggressive similar to how aggressive I can be and hes not this game. However I disagree with basically all his reads and I think he should be better than that.
I personally find reading HF and Rayn insanely hard and until I am 100% sure one of them is mafia I am not prepared for the potential shit storm that creates.
Well I really don't like either of these two incredibly opportunistic posts right here. And you and BC could very easily be scum together so let's not get all caught up in wifom as to why you two "couldn't be scum together" shall we. I would say BC is less likely to flip red than Pandain but I certainly don't have him as turbo town. Koshi is null: On May 02 2019 05:52 Koshi wrote:
I am shooting Fefe tonight. #Truestory But I would love to get a follow on with that. Rels... might actually be a great follow on if Pandain isn't scum: On May 03 2019 02:10 Rels wrote:
gotta stop now, lunch break is over. I'm almost caught up, bugs and Vivax scums. Vivax is a really good wagon to start D2 with as he doesn't know how to defend as scum This post right here was two hours before them flip, funny how it mentions vivax who scum probably would have known by then was gonna get modkilled... okay, so just to clarify: 1. you're assuming I am scum 2. you're fairly convinced Pandain is scum 3. You're townish on BC? Less likely than Pandain but not turbo town? What's keeping you from taking a stance on BC? 4. Koshi is null/unreadable. 5. Rels might be a good lead IFF Pandain is not scum because he might have slipped on knowing about Vivax. Is that right? Can you clarify on #3? I want to hear more about BC. Jesus you are dense You have a red check backing up good analysis done by HF, of course I think you're scum Yes I have no idea how you got townish on BC, if anything I'd say scummish. The only reason you don't think I have a stance on BC is bc you're being obtuse. I think he made two very opportunistic posts and aside from that has done fuck all. Rels is probably scum before BC because of his TMI post but if by some godawful stroke of luck you are a miller and Pandain is also town then BC would be next up of most likely suspects in my eyes. Yes Yes Null reads Koshi here, late-like. I'm interested in why Koshi still reads as Null at this point in the game, but he's fine with even advocates Rels lynch over the first couple days. Show nested quote +On May 03 2019 11:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 03 2019 11:02 wherebugsgo wrote:
also why did you ignore FF? Probably town: On May 03 2019 09:41 Fecalfeast wrote:On May 03 2019 09:34 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 02 2019 06:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
I accept the shot on me as I'm not a role I will play this next phase though i swear let's play, FF. Who's scum? You can assume both me and HF are town for this exercise. Why would I assume you are town you've been red checked I'd probably say rels because he's mia and seeing that vivax was going to not play he probably screwed off himself That's a good call right there and I agree with it. Also goes on to say that FF is town, provides reasoning. While he said he "wants followup from Koshi" on the Fefe shot, he never seems to press the matter. Koshi threatened to shoot a townread. Why Koshi still null bro? Show nested quote +On May 04 2019 09:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 04 2019 06:44 Fecalfeast wrote:On May 04 2019 04:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 04 2019 04:49 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 04 2019 04:28 Holyflare wrote:On May 04 2019 03:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Higher probability scum.
Bugs only looks like mafia because of how he's flailing here, now. His play before now looked pretty null to me, leaning townie. The exchange between he and HF is a tough call though - like I said before, he looks like mafia because of how "resigned" he is to his fate. He even didn't believe HF's claim all along and STILL felt "momentum to lynch" him, even after the claim was retracted.
Further, he looks worse because he ultimately believed HF - though the progression looks relatively natural, it could just as easily be him realizing the miller angle slowly, as others were realizing it too. As a townie, MY gut reaction is "WELP LOOKS LIKE WE GETEM BOYS!!!" if someone fake-claims on me, I INSTANTLY assume they're mafia trying to fuck me. It never really looked like bugs had that reaction.
HOWEVER
In the spirit of transparency, I'm not confident in my ability to accurately read bugs or his intentions. He's always been something of a wild-card to me and that frustration has bubbled over several times in our history. That could be coloring my hesitation to call him scum - I've been wrong SO MUCH before about Bugs. But like I said before - his play lacks a sharp edge that his mafia game typically has, so I've been leaning town most of the game. First few bits is why I disliked him. Guess Pandain is the safer lynch bu t I really don't care tbh. Did you not get this bit? What do you make of that VE? Also what do you make of FF saying he's down for Rels and then down for Pandain just as quickly? What do you think of me saying I'm down for a rels lynch then down for pandain just as quickly? VE obviously didn't read into it and you obviously have some suspicious thoughts about it or you wouldn't have brought it up. Or were you just trying to act like you're scumhunting by putting names in front of active townies? I think you're just bouncing around to whatever wagon is the most convenient. Tell me why I shouldn't think that. WAIT JUST A GOD DAMN MOMENT!!!!!!!!
Pandain, comment plz
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On May 07 2019 02:50 wherebugsgo wrote:
I’M BAAAACK
Waiting on my bag now, so not much time.
I think the MZ null read on Koshi isn’t a huge deal. I myself was null on Koshi because I wanted to give time to see how his claim played out and whatnot, and only started scumreading after the HF flip. Even then it was just like, this guy is the scummiest of the people who are literally all afk, Meagan I don’t count really as afk cause he’s managed to post some stuff. Lots of stuff I don’t like but he posts nonetheless
It's less the null read the more the fact that he skipped over his nullread of Koshi in favor of throwing shade on his TOWNREAD of FF.
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Like he accused FF of 'conveniently jumping from wagon to wagon' but Koshi had literally done nothing in the game at all besides "sheep rayn" and....troll? idk, seems sketch af right now, especially in this late hour.
And remember like I said - the fact that Koshi died last night is important to consider. Whoever is left was under the impression that THEY WOULD HAVE KOSHI HERE TOMMORROW, and they were WRONG.
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On May 07 2019 03:11 wherebugsgo wrote:
On BC being killed I think there’s nothing really to read into there from a reads perspective because there was realistically no other shot that makes sense.
I slowly came to that conclusion too. I started toying with "Well a VET just flipped, so chances are mafia didn't factor in a medic at all..." but I think you're right, I think it was just the only shot that they could take safely.
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