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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
April 11 2019 14:05 GMT
#2561
On April 11 2019 23:02 Pandain wrote:
@Kelsier can you share your chat with grack?


im not allowed to copy or screenshot but I didn't really talk to him that much tbh. Is there anything specific you are looking for?

I was busy at work and he called me shitty, i called him a dickhead and then we didn't talk
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
April 11 2019 14:08 GMT
#2562
On April 11 2019 23:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2019 23:01 KelsierSC wrote:
On April 11 2019 22:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
With regard to Kels role, it feels mafia-flavored to me. Consider - mafia presumably knew that Grack was converted, and the following day Grack was unable to receive votes. Kels claims his actions was based on YOLO, which taken with everything seems bad.

However I've also filtered Vivax. From early on Vivax was trying to lynch Kels, so I think I wanna take him off the table tomorrow. He had him in sights D1 and was waffley on him D2, but careful to leave him on the table. My own reservations about his role aside, I think lynching Kels tomorrow a bad idea.

Conversely, his most recent reads post pretty heavily downplays a Sentinel lynch as "policy" and "lynch-baity".

Based on Vivax filter I think I'd like a Sent lynch tomorrow the mostest.


If it was a mafia role then in the mafia QT vivax just tells me grack is the other SCL and I recruit him N1 winning the game immediately.


Unless you're lying about the whole "Untangle the lovers" thing which not only doesn't make any sense thematically but you've failed to adequately explain yourself.


the name of the role is the doppler shift , which is a maths/physics thing though i don't know what ties it has to fibbo.
Zerg for Life
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 11 2019 14:08 GMT
#2563
On April 11 2019 19:48 Pandain wrote:
It makes no sense why Grack would get removed by mafia since he was converted. Therefore he must have been removed by town. Since no one has claimed another role yet, barring sentinel claiming something, kelsier must be telling the truth

Grack could have easily been lynched D2, I could see them trying to protect Grack. Maybe there's something specific they had in mind, I really couldn't say.

You mentioned as well earlier that it's possible, even likely, that mafia don't know who they are recruiting or whatever, it could just be a coincidence that Kels jailed him to protect him on the same night he was recruited.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
April 11 2019 14:08 GMT
#2564
what explanation do you need exactly?
Zerg for Life
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 11 2019 14:09 GMT
#2565
At any rate, like I said, I'm not super into lynching Kels tomorrow. I think Sent an infinitely better lynch based on everything in the thread.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 11 2019 14:12 GMT
#2566
On April 11 2019 23:08 KelsierSC wrote:
what explanation do you need exactly?

I don't even know what "Untangle" means, obviously it isn't jail one of them or you would have won, does it mean kill them? Does it mean put them on the same side with the recruiting mechanic?

I mean I was unsure about what my win-condition was but once I got the actual information I needed it became obvious - you're telling me that with full knowledge of both their roles, you still have no idea what it means to untangle them?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
April 11 2019 14:15 GMT
#2567
On April 11 2019 23:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2019 19:48 Pandain wrote:
It makes no sense why Grack would get removed by mafia since he was converted. Therefore he must have been removed by town. Since no one has claimed another role yet, barring sentinel claiming something, kelsier must be telling the truth

Grack could have easily been lynched D2, I could see them trying to protect Grack. Maybe there's something specific they had in mind, I really couldn't say.

You mentioned as well earlier that it's possible, even likely, that mafia don't know who they are recruiting or whatever, it could just be a coincidence that Kels jailed him to protect him on the same night he was recruited.


I think this is an absolutely terrible argument and I hadn't scum-read you but now you are pretty suspicious.

Practically no one was scum-reading Grack, and why would you remove someone in order to "protect them" when you could have just removed a pro-town player from the game. Removing grack from the game is removing a vote.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
April 11 2019 14:16 GMT
#2568
On April 11 2019 23:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2019 23:08 KelsierSC wrote:
what explanation do you need exactly?

I don't even know what "Untangle" means, obviously it isn't jail one of them or you would have won, does it mean kill them? Does it mean put them on the same side with the recruiting mechanic?

I mean I was unsure about what my win-condition was but once I got the actual information I needed it became obvious - you're telling me that with full knowledge of both their roles, you still have no idea what it means to untangle them?


my role pm just said I have to untangle the SCL's.
It siad I can choose to jail someone and they will be out phase next day and share a temp QT with me and my advice will put them back in sync with their partner.

I didn't have a clue what this meant but Grak said he was in love so figured I would try out my ability on him. I had no idea it would recruit from town to mafia as grak didn't say he was mafia in the QT for obvious reasons. I still don't really know how I was supposed to #Untangle. i won't know now till postgame when onegu can explain wtf i was supposed to do.
Zerg for Life
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
April 11 2019 14:22 GMT
#2569
Oh so Kelsier (if he's telling the truth) converted Grack.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
April 11 2019 14:22 GMT
#2570
On April 11 2019 23:22 Pandain wrote:
Oh so Kelsier (if he's telling the truth) converted Grack.


unintentionally yes
Zerg for Life
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 11 2019 14:25 GMT
#2571
On April 11 2019 23:15 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2019 23:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
On April 11 2019 19:48 Pandain wrote:
It makes no sense why Grack would get removed by mafia since he was converted. Therefore he must have been removed by town. Since no one has claimed another role yet, barring sentinel claiming something, kelsier must be telling the truth

Grack could have easily been lynched D2, I could see them trying to protect Grack. Maybe there's something specific they had in mind, I really couldn't say.

You mentioned as well earlier that it's possible, even likely, that mafia don't know who they are recruiting or whatever, it could just be a coincidence that Kels jailed him to protect him on the same night he was recruited.


I think this is an absolutely terrible argument and I hadn't scum-read you but now you are pretty suspicious.

Practically no one was scum-reading Grack, and why would you remove someone in order to "protect them" when you could have just removed a pro-town player from the game. Removing grack from the game is removing a vote.

Because it's not actually protecting Grack but PROTECTING VIVAX. Jesus, I'm not just talking about mafia protecting a townie man, I'm talking about protecting 1 or maybe even 2 if they're aware of the conversion, of their own in a game where, from your OWN MOUTH, you think they started with 2 or something.

I didn't scumread you before but your shallowness of understanding of my point makes me reconsider heavily.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
April 11 2019 14:28 GMT
#2572
If you think I'm mafia after being the definitive vote for Vivax, taking out two mafia, when I could have at any time changed to Sentinel, then you have more respect for me then you should.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 11 2019 14:28 GMT
#2573
AND AGAIN

I'M NOT INTERESTED IN LYNCHING KELSIER TOMORROW

VIVAX WANTED TO DO THAT AND HE WAS MAFIA

I WANT TO LYNCH SENTINEL INSTEAD

I'M LEAVING MY THOUGHTS IN THE THREAD IN CASE I DIE IN THE NIGHT
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 11 2019 14:30 GMT
#2574
On April 11 2019 23:28 Pandain wrote:
If you think I'm mafia after being the definitive vote for Vivax, taking out two mafia, when I could have at any time changed to Sentinel, then you have more respect for me then you should.

Oh, I have respect for you. As far as I know you're one of the OGs here. My respect for you is why your perceived density is suspicious to me.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
April 11 2019 14:30 GMT
#2575
Anyway it's still an extremely weak argument because again, no one was talking about Grack at that point. And the benefit of jail-keeping someone like HF or Palmar (if town) is waaaaay better than the small benefit of not having to worry about Grack being lynched.

Do you see what I mean? The benefit of jail-keeping an active pro-town player is way more huge than the small, only potential benefit of making sure grack doesn't get lynched.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 11 2019 14:31 GMT
#2576
I get it, it's not great and I don't really think Kels is mafia. I'm just spitballing man, trying to find the mafia.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
April 11 2019 14:31 GMT
#2577
By the way I don't mean to make you mad or anything, I don't think you're bad or anything like that. I'm just pushing your opinions because I think they're weak, but it doesn't mean because you think they're the most important arguments or anything.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 11 2019 14:31 GMT
#2578
No VE it doesn't make much sense tbh. I thought the same you di earlier but really it doesnt make much sense.
table for two on a tv tray
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 11 2019 14:32 GMT
#2579
Ya the more I think about it if Kels were mafia then he doesn't remove one of their potential votes. I get it, and it's in line with me noticing Vivax trying to lynch Kels.

So can we agree that Kels is off the table tomorrow then?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 11 2019 14:32 GMT
#2580
On April 11 2019 23:30 Pandain wrote:
The benefit of jail-keeping an active pro-town player is way more huge than the small, only potential benefit of making sure grack doesn't get lynched.

I have a question thugh, who is an active pro-town player in this game?
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