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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 14 2019 02:19 GMT
#8081
Also, please remember to sign up for this Sunday's Chezinu Memorial Fun Run, as we take to the streets of Liquidia to raise public awareness against the threat of scum to our dear Liquidia.
you gotta dance
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
March 14 2019 02:20 GMT
#8082
I took some time off I think it was TvT for Tubesock vs Chez which makes me sad. It kinda shitty but we have to deal with it.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
March 14 2019 02:21 GMT
#8083
FYI Rels is not going to return till tomorrow I believe he feeling very demotivated from what he told me in the qt due to chez's flip.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 14 2019 02:24 GMT
#8084
On March 14 2019 11:20 LightningStrike wrote:
I took some time off I think it was TvT for Tubesock vs Chez which makes me sad. It kinda shitty but we have to deal with it.
I think this is true.

The wagon save was for Onegu.

The votes were close enough he was a possible shenanigan risk.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 14 2019 02:25 GMT
#8085
Faithful listener LightningStrike calls in:
On March 14 2019 11:20 LightningStrike wrote:
I took some time off I think it was TvT for Tubesock vs Chez which makes me sad. It kinda shitty but we have to deal with it.

What's making you change your mind on TS? I don't like how TS rolled over at the end, and unlike some others, I don't believe it's necessarily a town tell. For me that's not alignment-indicative, so I think the previous case still stands.
you gotta dance
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 14 2019 02:25 GMT
#8086
On March 14 2019 11:21 LightningStrike wrote:
FYI Rels is not going to return till tomorrow I believe he feeling very demotivated from what he told me in the qt due to chez's flip.
LOL

funny.. doesnt he have to mason someone else?

hes playing this game so weird.. whose doing most of the game solving in the qt?

i.e. whose putting original thought in, and who is listening/responding?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 14 2019 02:26 GMT
#8087
On March 14 2019 11:25 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Faithful listener LightningStrike calls in:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2019 11:20 LightningStrike wrote:
I took some time off I think it was TvT for Tubesock vs Chez which makes me sad. It kinda shitty but we have to deal with it.

What's making you change your mind on TS? I don't like how TS rolled over at the end, and unlike some others, I don't believe it's necessarily a town tell. For me that's not alignment-indicative, so I think the previous case still stands.

Im also weighing in with Chez town read on tubesock

I dunno where I sit trusting anything out of acro mouth, but chez I can + he locked onto sentinel DAy1.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 14 2019 03:03 GMT
#8088
masoning ls is kind of a scum move honestly. but he could do it as town. Its like getting a free vote
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
March 14 2019 03:08 GMT
#8089
On March 14 2019 11:25 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2019 11:21 LightningStrike wrote:
FYI Rels is not going to return till tomorrow I believe he feeling very demotivated from what he told me in the qt due to chez's flip.
LOL

funny.. doesnt he have to mason someone else?

hes playing this game so weird.. whose doing most of the game solving in the qt?

i.e. whose putting original thought in, and who is listening/responding?

I told him who I want him to mason up already. We both share the duty on who putting original thought in and stuff.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
March 14 2019 03:08 GMT
#8090
On March 14 2019 11:25 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Faithful listener LightningStrike calls in:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2019 11:20 LightningStrike wrote:
I took some time off I think it was TvT for Tubesock vs Chez which makes me sad. It kinda shitty but we have to deal with it.

What's making you change your mind on TS? I don't like how TS rolled over at the end, and unlike some others, I don't believe it's necessarily a town tell. For me that's not alignment-indicative, so I think the previous case still stands.

Because if he was scum then why would town just move all over the place they did EoD?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
March 14 2019 03:09 GMT
#8091
On March 14 2019 12:03 sicklucker wrote:
masoning ls is kind of a scum move honestly. but he could do it as town. Its like getting a free vote

Well he masoned Tina who he townread and tried to do rayn but rayn died.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
March 14 2019 03:09 GMT
#8092
On March 14 2019 11:24 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2019 11:20 LightningStrike wrote:
I took some time off I think it was TvT for Tubesock vs Chez which makes me sad. It kinda shitty but we have to deal with it.
I think this is true.

The wagon save was for Onegu.

The votes were close enough he was a possible shenanigan risk.

True about Onegu.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 14 2019 03:13 GMT
#8093
On March 14 2019 12:08 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2019 11:25 Mocsta wrote:
On March 14 2019 11:21 LightningStrike wrote:
FYI Rels is not going to return till tomorrow I believe he feeling very demotivated from what he told me in the qt due to chez's flip.
LOL

funny.. doesnt he have to mason someone else?

hes playing this game so weird.. whose doing most of the game solving in the qt?

i.e. whose putting original thought in, and who is listening/responding?

I told him who I want him to mason up already. We both share the duty on who putting original thought in and stuff.
I mean this respectfully, you may feel that, but its rarely 50/50

Rels posted logs before so i assume you can as well

i suggest you check with hosts and post before night end.

If hes feeding off you, and planting seeds - very scummy.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 14 2019 03:15 GMT
#8094
Hello Mr. Wiggles.

Long time listener, first time caller.

My issue with your program is that it focuses heavily on night actions and tube socks, which makes for somewhat dull listening in my evening hours. Frequently questions are explored in great detail that are of little value. I fear that your sock fetish frequently distracts from more engaging topics.

Could you give me some of your thoughts on the following players:

Oatsmaster
Rels
Jockmcplop
Mocsta
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
March 14 2019 03:22 GMT
#8095
On March 14 2019 12:13 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2019 12:08 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 14 2019 11:25 Mocsta wrote:
On March 14 2019 11:21 LightningStrike wrote:
FYI Rels is not going to return till tomorrow I believe he feeling very demotivated from what he told me in the qt due to chez's flip.
LOL

funny.. doesnt he have to mason someone else?

hes playing this game so weird.. whose doing most of the game solving in the qt?

i.e. whose putting original thought in, and who is listening/responding?

I told him who I want him to mason up already. We both share the duty on who putting original thought in and stuff.
I mean this respectfully, you may feel that, but its rarely 50/50

Rels posted logs before so i assume you can as well

i suggest you check with hosts and post before night end.

If hes feeding off you, and planting seeds - very scummy.

Only 1 if anything I will have to censor due to obvious reasons being that it's who I want to mason up the rest I will see if Rels want me to post the logs from out conversations.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 14 2019 03:52 GMT
#8096
OMG.. i believe acro

i cant believe this

Lurker vig has been issued on TL before. wtf
(I actually got onto this from MZ "responsiblilty mafia" - I havnt filter dived, but im curious now what his position on lurker vig is, since he knew it was a legit possibility)


As for pandain, i dont like how much he is riding on the dayvig confirmed town status thing, but i think thats more likely to come from town.
One flawed point raised for the record is the TL database has 26 instances of day vig role. Its roughly 50/50 split between town and scum.
I think you're town on how you are playing the game - but need to stop citing role as evidence. Its not.

So if I update my read pool:


Day One Final Vote Count - TRFEL + PALMAR

Mayor
Holyfare (16): Tubesock, Holyfare, rsoultin, ace, Mr. Wiggles, Jockmcplop, Mocsta, [UoN]Sentinel, Pandain, sicklucker, raynpeliokneet, Fecalfeast, iamperfection, damdred, ExO_, trfel
palmar (12): palmar, tictock, Meapak_Zipphh, waveofshadow, Grackaroni, conversion, Alakaslam, LightningStrike, Vivax, BloodyC0bbler, ACROFALES, blazinghand
iamperfection (4): darthfoley, Tumblewood, koshi, Oatsmaster
Chezinu (1):Chezinu
Onegu (1): Onegu
rsoultin (1): Rels

Lynch
trfel (11): Tubesock, sicklucker, [UoN]Sentinel, koshi, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jockmcplop, ACROFALES, Vivax, conversion
blazinghand (10): Holyfare, Grackaroni, iamperfection, Oatsmaster, waveofshadow, raynpeliokneet, trfel, rsoultin, ExO_, LightningStrike
conversion (3): Mocsta, Alakaslam, darthfoley
ACROFALES (2): damdred, tictock
iamperfection (2): BloodyC0bbler, blazinghand
koshi (1): ace
Fecalfeast (1): PANDAIN
Grackaroni (1): Meapak_Ziphh
LightningStrike (1): Rels
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Chezinu
rsoultin (1): Onegu
Mr. Wiggles (1): palmar


Day Two Final Vote Count - BLAZINGHAND

blazinghand (13): Mr. Wiggles, Rels, Holyfare, [UoN]Sentinel, rsoultin, PANDAIN, Mocsta, LightningStrike, waveofshadow, tictock, Tubesock, ExO_, Tumblewood
Holyfare (9): blazinghand, sicklucker, BloodyC0bbler, Alakaslam, Oatsmaster, ace, darthfoley, ACROFALES, Vivax
ACROFALES (2): raynpeliokneet, Fecalfeast
ace (1): Jockmcplop
rsoultin (1): Onegu
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Grackaroni,
Mr. Wiggles (1): Meapak_Ziphh

Not voting (2): damdred, Chezinu


Day Three Final Vote Count - [UoN]Sentinel

[UoN]Sentinel (10): PANDAIN, Grackaroni, Mocsta, ace, tictock, ACROFALES, LightningStrike, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Meapak_Ziphh
ace (7): Oatsmaster, Rels, Jockmcplop, Chezinu, [UoN]Sentinel, darthfoley, Vivax
Chezinu (4): Alakaslam, Fecalfeast, Onegu, sicklucker

Not voting (2): ExO_, Tubesock


Day Four Final Vote Count - Chezinu

Chezinu (7): Onegu, Rels, sicklucker, darthfoley, Grackaroni, LighningStrike, Vivax
Tubesock (7): Mocsta, Mr. Wiggles, Jockmcplop, Chezinu, Fecalfeast, ACROFALES, Alakaslam
Onegu (3): Meapak_Ziphh, ExO_, PANDAIN
Meapak_Ziphh (1): Oatsmaster
Oatsmaster (1): tubesock
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 14 2019 03:56 GMT
#8097
Throwing out something

If Tube + Chez is TvT

Oats vote doesnt bode well
On March 14 2019 06:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think we just lynch mz here


Clearly was here before lynch
Clearly his vote wasnt going to change the outcome between TS/Chez
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
March 14 2019 04:00 GMT
#8098
Mocsta didn't you claim a parity check on someone earlier?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
March 14 2019 04:09 GMT
#8099
Anyways going to bed hopefully I can get more out of this mess of a Day 4. When I wake up will check the thread!
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 14 2019 04:23 GMT
#8100
This will be my last post for cycle
This is just a gut feel dump of where I stand with remaining player count in
My care factor is pretty low and I cant be bothered re-reading the game. Its pretty annoying that I still wake up to 10 pages and majority of it is what I surmise as "policy discussion". Yes, Im contributing to that shitpool too. I get it and am disgusted at myself. I never read the first 50 pages of the game, and stopped reading critically after day2 lynch.

The game needs to migrate towards what Acro did with Chez claim. That was incredible. Absolutely outstanding, and even before the lynch, you could see Chez broke out of character to congratulate out of shock.

At least one of Acro/Pandain has to be shot tonight.
One thing to consider is that Fecalfeast lost his bomb due to the chez lynch. So unfortunately there is no incentive for scum to shoot him. This will be an interesting point as we get closer to MYLO. I assume next cycle isnt lylo?

+ Show Spoiler [reads] +

Onegu- I can only recall him focused on reads and semantics. Very one-track focused. Probably scum.

Fecalfeast - I dont remember anything about this guy other than the claim. Odd thing to fake and took the "roleplay" with chez seriously. I would only consider scum at lylo.

LightningStrike - Again, i dont remember anything this guy has said. Like a constantly available puppy dog waiting to be fed. Has to be town.

Oatsmaster - Had a strong Day1 and has completely faded. Unlike me, has not cited the game size and progression as a deterrent. Very bullish when comes back in, not working with town even though not a key contributor. I find that scummy. I would seriously consider a lynch as maybe 2nd or 3rd scum option.

sicklucker - Again, I cant remember a single thing about this guy. I think hes posting a lot but i just cant recall what his focus is. I would be fucked if LYLO was sl/ff/me.

Acrofales-I believe the claim. He really stepped up this Day cycle. I will give it to him. That chez piece was beautiful. Im dropping the 3P thing altogether.

Jockmcplop-Strong Day1+2 town read. Tapered off Day3/4, and I think this drop off is exhaustion and confusion similar to my own. Just the way he explained it, I really resonated with. Ride or Die for me.

ExO_-Im sticking with my lone wolf play. Its interesting. Him and oats are doing a similar thing so why am i townreading exo and not oats. I think its because exo is still playing within the boundaries of thread sentiment which I think is more likely to be town lone wolf. Oats is just completely out of sync with game state.

Vivax-Im trusting the flipped townies here. Rayn/rsuoltin etc. i stopped reading him yonks ago.

Grackaroni-I thought was town Day1/2. I dont think his push on me is scum setting up a mislynch. he probably believes it. I should read his day1/day2 stuff in detail like i promised. I cant remember much other than he picked up on some really good off-beat stuff. "hipster" town

tubesock-Following read from Chez + Acro.

Pandain-Is trying too hard for scum +all this confirmed town shit just draws attention to him being shot. I could revisit at LYLO, but frankly, I would be shocked if he got there

darthfoley-I had to pause before choosing null or red. If i could distill DF this game. hes saying things that feel good, but is ending up in shit places. I think thats pretty scummy.

Mocsta-dduhhhhh

Meapak_Ziphh-Again, I cant remember anything about this guy. He seems to come in and bark at thread sentiment but not doing anything to change it.

Mr. Wiggles-My weakest of town reads. Dunno, about this. Again, I cant remmeber shit about his vote progressions. Seems to be a recurring theme. Game is too big. Seems to be an older / more mature version of Lightning Strike in the sense of puppy dog waiting to be fed. A town point in his favour is that the posting frequency and tone has been consistent.

Alakaslam-Another ball of nothingness. Is always posting but i dont see a purpose. Also, I dont think he was getting horny over Chez like he normally does. Scum to town could be an explanation

Rels-When I think of Rels, I think, wasted opportunity. Everything seems to be limp. I dunno how much of this could be IRL. I dont think his submissive as scum, so could be explained by other factors. I dunno.


In short

Town Circle: FF, LS, Acro, Jock, ExO, Vivax, Grack, TS, Pandain, Wiggles)

Null Circle: SL, Rels

Scum Circle: Onegu, Oats, DF, MZ, Slam

I didnt end up at that breakdown trying to find a scum team of 7. Those are jsut the ppl that intuitively came to me as scummy.
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