EPTOn March 14 2019 13:00 LightningStrike wrote:
Mocsta didn't you claim a parity check on someone earlier?
Cos Pandain made it publicMocsta didn't you claim a parity check on someone earlier?
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Mocsta
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Mocsta
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I will update the vote count with my read Scum = Sentinel, BC + ONEGU, Oats, DF, MZ, Slam Day One Final Vote Count - trfel + palmar Mayor Holyfare (16): Tubesock, Holyfare, rsoultin, ace, Mr. Wiggles, Jockmcplop, Mocsta, [UoN]Sentinel, Pandain, sicklucker, raynpeliokneet, Fecalfeast, iamperfection, damdred, ExO_, trfel palmar (12): palmar, tictock, Meapak_Zipphh, waveofshadow, Grackaroni, conversion, ALAKASLAM, LightningStrike, Vivax, BloodyC0bbler, ACROFALES, blazinghand iamperfection (4): DARTHFOLEY, Tumblewood, koshi, OATSMASTER Chezinu (1):Chezinu ONEGU (1): ONEGU rsoultin (1): Rels Lynch trfel (11): Tubesock, sicklucker, [UoN]Sentinel, koshi, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jockmcplop, ACROFALES, Vivax, conversion blazinghand (10): Holyfare, Grackaroni, iamperfection, OATSMASTER, waveofshadow, raynpeliokneet, trfel, rsoultin, ExO_, LightningStrike conversion (3): Mocsta, ALAKASLAM, DARTHFOLEY ACROFALES (2): damdred, tictock iamperfection (2): BloodyC0bbler, blazinghand koshi (1): ace Fecalfeast (1): PANDAIN Grackaroni (1): MEAPAK_ZIPHH LightningStrike (1): Rels [UoN]Sentinel (1): Chezinu rsoultin (1): ONEGU Mr. Wiggles (1): palmar Day Two Final Vote Count - BLAZINGHAND blazinghand (13): Mr. Wiggles, Rels, Holyfare, [UoN]Sentinel, rsoultin, PANDAIN, Mocsta, LightningStrike, waveofshadow, tictock, Tubesock, ExO_, Tumblewood Holyfare (9): blazinghand, sicklucker, BloodyC0bbler, ALAKASLAM, OATSMASTER, ace, DARTHFOLEY, ACROFALES, Vivax ACROFALES (2): raynpeliokneet, Fecalfeast ace (1): Jockmcplop rsoultin (1): ONEGU [UoN]Sentinel (1): Grackaroni, Mr. Wiggles (1): MEAPAK_ZIPHH Not voting (2): damdred, Chezinu Day Three Final Vote Count - [UoN]Sentinel [UoN]Sentinel (10): PANDAIN, Grackaroni, Mocsta, ace, tictock, ACROFALES, LightningStrike, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, MEAPAK_ZIPHH ace (7): OATSMASTER, Rels, Jockmcplop, Chezinu, [UoN]Sentinel, DARTHFOLEY, Vivax Chezinu (4): ALAKASLAM, Fecalfeast, ONEGU, sicklucker Not voting (2): ExO_, Tubesock Day Four Final Vote Count - Chezinu Chezinu (7): ONEGU, Rels, sicklucker, DARTHFOLEY, Grackaroni, LighningStrike, Vivax Tubesock (7): Mocsta, Mr. Wiggles, Jockmcplop, Chezinu, Fecalfeast, ACROFALES, ALAKASLAM ONEGU (3): MEAPAK_ZIPHH, ExO_, PANDAIN MEAPAK_ZIPHH (1): OATSMASTER OATSMASTER (1): tubesock Ironically this makes some sense to me. Even Day2. Lynch HF first is justifiable as policy so its ok they bandwagoned. Sentinel is by himself as traitor. Nice. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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On March 14 2019 12:56 Mocsta wrote: Throwing out something If Tube + Chez is TvT Oats vote doesnt bode well Clearly was here before lynch Clearly his vote wasnt going to change the outcome between TS/Chez easily 40 min dude, check again the votecount then | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
I dont get what you are advocating; that you could have protected Onegu by voting TT or Chez? On March 12 2019 22:01 Dandel Ion wrote: Day Four Vote Count Tubesock (5): Mocsta, Fecalfeast, Mr. Wiggles, Alakaslam, Jockmcplop Chezinu (3): Onegu, Rels, sicklucker Maepak_Ziphh (2): Acrofales, LighningStrike darthfoley (1): Vivax Not voting (8): Oatsmaster, Chezinu, ExO_, Grackaroni, tubesock, Pandain, darthfoley, Maepak_Ziphh Tubesock is currently set to be lynched. This is vote count adjusted for the 3 votes before yours in that 5hr span. ~ 13 March 2019 02:30 Day Four Vote Count Tubesock (5): Mocsta, Fecalfeast, Mr. Wiggles, Alakaslam, Jockmcplop Chezinu (5): Onegu, Rels, sicklucker, tubesock, LS Maepak_Ziphh (2): Acrofales, oatsmaster darthfoley (1): Vivax Slam (1): Pandain Not voting (5): Chezinu, ExO_, Grackaroni, darthfoley, Maepak_Ziphh Tubesock is currently set to be lynched. This is vote count when you made that post (40min out from deadline) On March 14 2019 07:21 kitaman27 wrote: Day Four Vote Count Tubesock (7): Mocsta, Mr. Wiggles, Jockmcplop, Chezinu, LighningStrike, Vivax, Fecalfeast Onegu (5): Acrofales, Meapak_Ziphh, ExO_, Alakaslam, Pandain Chezinu (4): Onegu, Rels, sicklucker, darthfoley Meapak_Ziphh (2): Oatsmaster, Grackaroni Oatsmaster (1): tubesock Not voting (0): Tubesock is currently set to be lynched. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On March 14 2019 08:49 Grackaroni wrote: I'm like super disappointed to be honest. I had a good shot at getting night killed if there was a Chez red flip. Now I'm going to be here until the end with FF and Sicklucker.  Imma get shot before you eh? This compliment almost offsets rayn’s insult | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On March 14 2019 13:23 Mocsta wrote: This will be my last post for cycle This is just a gut feel dump of where I stand with remaining player count in My care factor is pretty low and I cant be bothered re-reading the game. Its pretty annoying that I still wake up to 10 pages and majority of it is what I surmise as "policy discussion". Yes, Im contributing to that shitpool too. I get it and am disgusted at myself. I never read the first 50 pages of the game, and stopped reading critically after day2 lynch. The game needs to migrate towards what Acro did with Chez claim. That was incredible. Absolutely outstanding, and even before the lynch, you could see Chez broke out of character to congratulate out of shock. At least one of Acro/Pandain has to be shot tonight. One thing to consider is that Fecalfeast lost his bomb due to the chez lynch. So unfortunately there is no incentive for scum to shoot him. This will be an interesting point as we get closer to MYLO. I assume next cycle isnt lylo? + Show Spoiler [reads] + Onegu- I can only recall him focused on reads and semantics. Very one-track focused. Probably scum. Fecalfeast - I dont remember anything about this guy other than the claim. Odd thing to fake and took the "roleplay" with chez seriously. I would only consider scum at lylo. LightningStrike - Again, i dont remember anything this guy has said. Like a constantly available puppy dog waiting to be fed. Has to be town. Oatsmaster - Had a strong Day1 and has completely faded. Unlike me, has not cited the game size and progression as a deterrent. Very bullish when comes back in, not working with town even though not a key contributor. I find that scummy. I would seriously consider a lynch as maybe 2nd or 3rd scum option. sicklucker - Again, I cant remember a single thing about this guy. I think hes posting a lot but i just cant recall what his focus is. I would be fucked if LYLO was sl/ff/me. Acrofales-I believe the claim. He really stepped up this Day cycle. I will give it to him. That chez piece was beautiful. Im dropping the 3P thing altogether. Jockmcplop-Strong Day1+2 town read. Tapered off Day3/4, and I think this drop off is exhaustion and confusion similar to my own. Just the way he explained it, I really resonated with. Ride or Die for me. ExO_-Im sticking with my lone wolf play. Its interesting. Him and oats are doing a similar thing so why am i townreading exo and not oats. I think its because exo is still playing within the boundaries of thread sentiment which I think is more likely to be town lone wolf. Oats is just completely out of sync with game state. Vivax-Im trusting the flipped townies here. Rayn/rsuoltin etc. i stopped reading him yonks ago. Grackaroni-I thought was town Day1/2. I dont think his push on me is scum setting up a mislynch. he probably believes it. I should read his day1/day2 stuff in detail like i promised. I cant remember much other than he picked up on some really good off-beat stuff. "hipster" town  tubesock-Following read from Chez + Acro. Pandain-Is trying too hard for scum +all this confirmed town shit just draws attention to him being shot. I could revisit at LYLO, but frankly, I would be shocked if he got there darthfoley-I had to pause before choosing null or red. If i could distill DF this game. hes saying things that feel good, but is ending up in shit places. I think thats pretty scummy. Mocsta-dduhhhhh Meapak_Ziphh-Again, I cant remember anything about this guy. He seems to come in and bark at thread sentiment but not doing anything to change it. Mr. Wiggles-My weakest of town reads. Dunno, about this. Again, I cant remmeber shit about his vote progressions. Seems to be a recurring theme. Game is too big. Seems to be an older / more mature version of Lightning Strike in the sense of puppy dog waiting to be fed. A town point in his favour is that the posting frequency and tone has been consistent. Alakaslam-Another ball of nothingness. Is always posting but i dont see a purpose. Also, I dont think he was getting horny over Chez like he normally does. Scum to town could be an explanation Rels-When I think of Rels, I think, wasted opportunity. Everything seems to be limp. I dunno how much of this could be IRL. I dont think his submissive as scum, so could be explained by other factors. I dunno. In short Town Circle: FF, LS, Acro, Jock, ExO, Vivax, Grack, TS, Pandain, Wiggles) Null Circle: SL, Rels Scum Circle: Onegu, Oats, DF, MZ, Slam I didnt end up at that breakdown trying to find a scum team of 7. Those are jsut the ppl that intuitively came to me as scummy. You forget I tried to save chez. But it’s wifom if you think that was TVT so meh | ||
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Alakaslam
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On March 14 2019 13:30 Mocsta wrote: For funsies I will update the vote count with my read Scum = Sentinel, BC + ONEGU, Oats, DF, MZ, Slam Ironically this makes some sense to me. Even Day2. Lynch HF first is justifiable as policy so its ok they bandwagoned. Sentinel is by himself as traitor. Nice. This isn’t for funnies- you will actually tunnel on this because it’s too damn good | ||
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Mocsta
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Who would you swap in that list with you? | ||
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Pandain
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Mr. Wiggles
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On March 14 2019 12:15 Grackaroni wrote: Hello Mr. Wiggles. Long time listener, first time caller. My issue with your program is that it focuses heavily on night actions and tube socks, which makes for somewhat dull listening in my evening hours. Frequently questions are explored in great detail that are of little value. I fear that your sock fetish frequently distracts from more engaging topics. Could you give me some of your thoughts on the following players: Oatsmaster Rels Jockmcplop Mocsta Firstly, let us assure you that the Dead Zone Show is one of the most wholesome radio programs available to the citizens of Liquidia, and we try to stay focused on the hot issues of the day affecting our society. We do our best to deliver quality entertainment, so if we are failing in this regard, we apologise. Now, as for your question, we have the following opinions after filter-diving (or at least skimming) the above: Mocsta: Overall reads as town to me, based on behavioural reasons. Lots of Mocsta's reads have been pretty out there or novel. There's also been lots of progression in the reads that doesn't look like scum. Mocsta will go out and accuse someone, throw some crap around, and then end up changing the read organically as the thread moves forward or more information is revealed. I don't see scum putting themselves out there that much or making themselves stick out like that. I don't like the recent preoccupation with 3P/SK and kill analysis, but that's more because I think it's a waste of effort than scum-motivated. Jockmcplop: Null to scum lean. We liked his play in the early stages of the game, but to us lately it's been becoming more scummy. The last while has seemed really tentative and timid compared to the earlier play that was a bit fearless. The posts from the last day have read more like they're probing to get a sense of town sentiment before committing to a read. This seems like scum that's getting nervous and doesn't know how to play or blend coming in to the mid game where there's less room to hide. I'll temper the read based on the fact that this is allegedly Jock's first game, so maybe the nerves are for a different reason, but it's coming off more as scum than inexperience now. Rels: Rels is a weird one because of the mason stuff. Rsoultin was masoned and outed Rels for thinking they're scum, and then LS was masoned and seems to have a town read on Rels (I think?). There's some weirdness going on here, where the Rels/Rsoultin stuff doesn't seem to match up with the apparent effort that's going on now with LS (based on stuff LS is saying in thread). This gives me some strange vibes. Looking through the filter, it's not great. Lots of soft posting without many hard stances, besides pushing Ace and then Chez in the last couple cycles. Besides that, there's a lack content, even with lots of posts. There's maybe some stuff going on in the QT now with LS, but I don't like that reads are coming out through LS about stuff like Onegu, MZ, and TS and not from Rels himself via his posting in the thread. He doesn't seem to be publicly pushing the same stuff that he's feeding to LS. Decent chance to flip scum. Oatsmaster: Null to scum read, similar strength to Jock. Looking through the filter was pretty hard. There's lots of random commentary and questions that don't seem to accomplish much or go anywhere. Lots of their scum reads come on hard seem to drop pretty soon thereafter. Reads a lot like Oats is throwing crap at the wall and looking for what might stick. Maybe that's a good way to look for reactions pretty early in the game, but coming in to this stage, it doesn't really add too much. I'm not familiar with meta any more, so maybe this is Oats' normal play? Overall, I'd contrast Oats' play to Mocsta's where the latter's shows a more clear progression in the reads compared to Oats, even if they similarly try to push their own reads regardless of town sentiment. Mocsta's reads a lot more like town trying to scumhunt compared to Oats. | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
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On March 14 2019 12:08 LightningStrike wrote: Because if he was scum then why would town just move all over the place they did EoD? We're not sure this explanation makes sense. Town shouldn't know whether he's scum or not for sure, so them moving around at the end of day shouldn't matter too much based on TS' alignment? This town has gotten cold feet on plenty of votes, we can look back at the D1 conversion vote, for example, and Vivax acted similarly then as well. Some people didn't seem convinced by the arguments against TS and tunnelled in on Chez or looked for alternate lynches. This led to lots of churn near the end of the day. We think at least some of this was scum trying to get people off TS or Onegu. Maybe it wasn't reflected in the votes, but some of the counter wagons proposed should be looked at. | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
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Town: Mr. Wiggles (I know my role!) Pandain (HF shot + Sent push + posting) Acrofales (Had this read for a while, posting) LightningStrike (#1 Dead Zone Show fan) Grackaroni (Posting) Vivax (Posting) Mocsta Meapak_Ziphh Alakaslam (To make slam feel happy and included )Null or not paid a ton of attention to: Fecalfeast (Claim is not confirmed, but not worth looking at as a lynch yet) sicklucker ExO_ Scum: Jockmcplop Oatsmaster Rels darthfoley Onegu tubesock | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
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We'll see you on the show tomorrow! (We hope) | ||
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Alakaslam
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On March 14 2019 14:50 Mocsta wrote: Slam Who would you swap in that list with you? Tubesock | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On March 14 2019 16:04 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Your hosts here at the Dead Zone Show would like to make their reads more clear. Most of this should have reasoning in our filter, besides a couple town reads we haven't mentioned and the null/uncertains. This is where people currently stand from strongest to weakest read in each category on the Liquidia Hot Singles list: Town: Mr. Wiggles (I know my role!) Pandain (HF shot + Sent push + posting) Acrofales (Had this read for a while, posting) LightningStrike (#1 Dead Zone Show fan) Grackaroni (Posting) Vivax (Posting) Mocsta Meapak_Ziphh Alakaslam (To make slam feel happy and included ) ayyy thxm8Null or not paid a ton of attention to: Fecalfeast (Claim is not confirmed, but not worth looking at as a lynch yet) sicklucker ExO_ Scum: Jockmcplop Oatsmaster Rels darthfoley Onegu tubesock | ||
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Alakaslam
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Why is EXO just ok | ||
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Pandain
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Acrofales
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Moreover, TS didn't try to save himself by voting Chezinu. At the time of his surrender the competiting wagon was Onegu, so I didn't find it too surprising, but unless TS and Onegu are scum together and all the scum is afk at the deadline, it looks like TS is a town wagon, and he had just given up on defending himself. In general, Slam waffling about and ending up on what is at least not the wrong wagon feel very towny. Other than that, I'm just upset that I make a giant case on how townie Chezinu is and you go and lunch him. Like, that's twice this game, and this time I don't get to blame HF. It was clearly a collective town fail. | ||
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Acrofales
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Thanks. | ||
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