End of the World Party Mafia - Page 28

On March 02 2019 17:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Surprise i do things that i do as town as mafia aswell?
Fine, i got completely different read on him from the beginning and then he also did a trademark town Trfel thing later.

On March 02 2019 20:51 Vivax wrote:
@ Rayn

MZ said explicitly that he's accepting convs scum claim as a joke, but he wanted to know why he put in those names anyway.

Why is that a reason for you to question his motives?

And why does Conversion instantly get on the defensive about it when MZ said it isn't a reason to scumread him?

On March 02 2019 20:58 rsoultin wrote:
What are your reads that don't matter BC?

On March 02 2019 20:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Read again, MZ never said Conversion isn't mafia. He said quite the opposite, and i understood perfectly what Conversion was pushing him about. That being said i think that particular answer later on where he explains his stance on Conversion can come easily come from either town or scum, which is why i dropped the conversation about it.

riddle me this: if you believe me to be mafia, in what world would my first post in a rather dull thread be exposing any of my teammates? if you were to believe I was mafia, as a townie you wouldn't care about my list as you'd have to believe I'm playing against mafia win condition by unnecessarily exposing my teammates for a joke post that wasn't even funny

if you believe I am town, then the order doesn't matter cause I'm just making a dumb joke

On March 02 2019 21:01 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


Why the hell would I post a read that doesnt matter? If i don't have someone directly pinned as green/red they are neutral until a) I have time to filter dive them and get a better idea of a read
b) They do something that pushes them one way or the other.


Talking about my "42%" chance to be scum read as an example serves basically no fucking point.

On March 02 2019 21:02 Vivax wrote:


MZ was poking him about it as he said himself and that's how I was reading the entire thing. It's just you and conversion that seemingly are construing it as a scumread.



And this quote from Conversion isn't something a townie would ever write.

"Hey I made a joke post about me being mafia. Let me explain why if it weren't a joke post, it wouldn't make me mafia"

On March 02 2019 10:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

lol who says he's not mafia?

On March 02 2019 11:01 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

I mean I doubt he just gave up the entire scum team (which is why I said it was probably BS) but I certainly don't think he's somehow cleared. I'm even more interested now since he has apparently read my poking at him as me thinking I've got an "ironclad case"

On March 02 2019 11:05 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

This is literally all WIFOM lol. Do we still say that around here?

Personally, because of Trfel already (presumably) fake claiming scum in the thread, your "dumb joke" strikes me as a fairly safe entry type post for someone who is scum. I wanted to see what reasons you had for your list since scum often have a habit of including one or two of their teammates in lists like that. And if nothing else you talking about your list could spark a little conversation.

On March 02 2019 11:00 Conversion wrote:


riddle me this: if you believe me to be mafia, in what world would my first post in a rather dull thread be exposing any of my teammates? if you were to believe I was mafia, as a townie you wouldn't care about my list as you'd have to believe I'm playing against mafia win condition by unnecessarily exposing my teammates for a joke post that wasn't even funny

if you believe I am town, then the order doesn't matter cause I'm just making a dumb joke

On March 02 2019 21:02 Vivax wrote:


MZ was poking him about it as he said himself and that's how I was reading the entire thing. It's just you and conversion that seemingly are construing it as a scumread.



And this quote from Conversion isn't something a townie would ever write.

"Hey I made a joke post about me being mafia. Let me explain why if it weren't a joke post, it wouldn't make me mafia"

On March 02 2019 21:06 rsoultin wrote:


lol you sound angry. So we're your only reads. Cool. Would have expected that rather than 'only important' reads, but whatevs. When you get some more I might be able to make a judgement call on you beyond we clearly do not see the game the same way.

And, to be fair, I get why people aren't townreading Iam but whatever I'm gonna be the hipster. I can also see you not getting the nuances I'm talking about with Chez. I can even perhaps see me either being wrong on Chez's contributions even while trolling. So the only real thing you've given me is being pretty defensive for seemingly no reason when I just asked you a question.

if you were to believe I was mafia, as a townie you wouldn't care about my list as you'd have to believe I'm playing against mafia win condition by unnecessarily exposing my teammates for a joke post

On March 02 2019 21:08 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
To also add on to Vivax's point about conversion as a point of context.



As Mafia I have more than once bussed my team so that when I died people would ignore all my analysis / reads of who I thought was mafia and pick people I avoided talking about etc...
Its led to more wins than it ever should have. Causing chaos / a nice cover for your team is never playing against your win con if you are mafia.

Also he said he wanted to lynch Trfel for lying then proceeded to lie himself -_-

On March 02 2019 21:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I see what you're saying Vivax but i think you are blowing it out of proportion. Conversion is very very likely to be town.

On March 02 2019 21:11 rsoultin wrote:


Okay, you can be in my non-lynch pile. This feels like a vivaxy thing to focus on though I can't say I read his post the same way you do. I'd actually call his post a potential strawman argument.

"Why did you pick those names?"
"Why do you care why I picked those names? It's a joke."

I agree with MP that names come from somewhere, joke or not -shrugs-

On March 02 2019 21:17 rsoultin wrote:


Because...?