He mentioned that he scumread kita a few times though, before he started with his team.
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He mentioned that he scumread kita a few times though, before he started with his team. | ||
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So I'll try to do it again later today. Kita hasn't really anything that screams either town or scum. The way rels thinks he has found a scumteam is rather towny (because he built it up from the beginning with adding more pieces - even though I still don't really know what his problem with kita was, he seems to already have had one), but he has a few arguments against me that aren't that great. Also this one I didn't mention yet: On November 07 2018 13:39 Rels wrote: yeah having finished reasing byj and happykrogan's filter, I think byj is town and happykrogan is scum. I expected the opposite to happen when I started reading them. p: I quoted the more damning things above about happykrogan. But even more than that, he posts a lot, but most of his reads are very surface level. He has a lot of posts, but not a lot of reads that are interesting. His "byj is Hitler" post above is one of the exception, as in it's a pretty interesting one, but as said above it doesn't match with his previous stance. His post about prp D2 is also a good read, but he ends up dismissing it and voting YES to the prp team for no apparent reason. The rest is pretty bland. Attacking me because I made lazy oneliners and because my thought process didn't show in the posts I wrote, even though, I told him multiple times that it's actually a town tell for me. Attacking byj about his "plan". The stuff he attacks Conversion with is pretty weak too. the bolded let it look like I attacked him for it, after he said it doesn't apply to him, what I didn't do (I just told Conversion, that I didn't scumread you for inactivity, but wasn't attacking you again) I don't know if that makes him anything. Also now I think that the rayn blowing his thought out of proportion thing could be true, so right now I actually don't prefer kita over Rels, but I plan on looking into both again. | ||
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On November 08 2018 22:14 happykrogan wrote: After reading both filters one time, I am kind of neutral on both. So I'll try to do it again later today. Kita hasn't really anything that screams either town or scum. The way rels thinks he has found a scumteam is rather towny (because he built it up from the beginning with adding more pieces - even though I still don't really know what his problem with kita was, he seems to already have had one), but he has a few arguments against me that aren't that great. Also this one I didn't mention yet: the bolded let it look like I attacked him for it, after he said it doesn't apply to him, what I didn't do (I just told Conversion, that I didn't scumread you for inactivity, but wasn't attacking you again) I don't know if that makes him anything. Also now I think that the rayn blowing his thought out of proportion thing could be true, so right now I actually don't prefer kita over Rels, but I plan on looking into both again. To clarify, I don't have a townread on rels yet, because of some arguments against me, that I don't think are vaild. | ||
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On November 08 2018 22:16 happykrogan wrote: To clarify, I don't have a townread on rels yet, because of some arguments against me, that I don't think are vaild. and because I don't know where his kita read originally came from | ||
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On November 09 2018 00:12 kitaman27 wrote: Does this accurately reflect everyone's opinion so far? You really should justify why you prefer one candidate over the other because we can use that information later on. I'm talking about prpl, byj, krogan and conversion specifically. kitaman27 - Yes raynpelikoneet - Yes to one or the other byj - Yes, but could change prplhz - Learning Yes happykrogan - Yes to both pairs (?) Grackaroni - ? Conversion - Leaning No? Rels - No I will decide on who I prefer before deadline. If I end up prefering you and you don't get voted, I will 100% vote Rels anyway. If I end up prefering Rels and you get voted I will 100% not vote Rels, so we can follow the plan. | ||
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do you think it is more likely, that we have a hitler Conversion or a scum prplhz If Converison is hitler, why do you think this isn't true anymore? On November 01 2018 00:32 kitaman27 wrote: lol Conversion is so crazy that he's probably not Hitler. | ||
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I just read Kita's filter again and I think the things he said as well as his reads and his read progression make sense from a town point of view. The only thing that worries me, is a potential kita/prplhz connection, because prplhz, (who he always had in tier 2 - which is probably a good Idea to have a scumbuddy in), would be the obvious scumread for him, because he doesn't have towncred from selecting liberal over fascist and at least one voted player has to be scum if kita is town- which also does let rels look better, because he has the connection in his scumteam I can see town Kita who scumread Conversion the whole game thinking Conv is hitler though (except the one post which he posted a week ago). | ||
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His anger seemed genuine, but it was about something I think he would get mad about with both alignments. The first thing he wrote about me was this: On November 07 2018 12:42 Rels wrote: The bolded is ridiculous. First, what possible gain would scum would have to lie about something so easily disproved ? Second, there is a disconnect between your two posts. In the first, you say to have assumed that fascists know each other, but you're not 100% sure. In the second post, you're so sure that fascists know each other, so you accuse someone else of lying about it. That makes no sense. which I understand why he thought it was scummy - even if he is not correct about it - from the way I worded it I understand why he thought I was 100% convinced. Then he follows it up with bad "treating two players different for the same thing" reads and a day 2 scenario that sounds logical. Also he seemed excited about solving the game and ownhandedly forcing the whole scum team to show face, the first time he really played this game, so that seems towny. Also I'm not sure if a scum player would want to limit himself to a complete teamread, when they have a lot of votes left to win to get a chance of winning the game. So I'm fine with voting Rels instead of Kita | ||
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On November 09 2018 06:02 kitaman27 wrote: I didn't want to say it, but I think it has become pretty clear that you're all racist against our benevolent overlord. It's really not your fault though. The nasty prejudice has passed down from generation to generation and has become so ingrained into the fabric of our society that you find yourself unable to overcome it. I have a dream that my children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their bucket shaped head, but by the content of their character. I am almost tempted to think there is a baby seal behind this bucket head. | ||
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On November 09 2018 06:35 kitaman27 wrote: If he thinks I'm mafia, but doesn't bother to explain why, doesn't that earn him scum points, not town? Why are you applying this logic to Rels, but not me? I've been even more open attacking players whose votes I'd need if I were mafia. He thinks he has explained. He said that he thinks he has some posts in his filter so he probably forgot - I would prefer to wait until he answers but I don't think he is back until deadline. | ||
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On November 09 2018 06:35 kitaman27 wrote: If he thinks I'm mafia, but doesn't bother to explain why, doesn't that earn him scum points, not town? Why are you applying this logic to Rels, but not me? I've been even more open attacking players whose votes I'd need if I were mafia. My point was that he has a whole team he is really convinced in and I don't think it is that easy to back out from it. Also I got the Idea as I read Rels and didn't thought about it as I read you. I will read the last posts from you considering this now. | ||
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On November 09 2018 06:42 kitaman27 wrote: But isn't it relevant that he never bothers to push the argument until the moment it's a Rels vs kita scenario on day four? Actually he has his periods of inactivity but when he was active, he referred to you as a scumread. | ||
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On November 09 2018 06:35 kitaman27 wrote: If he thinks I'm mafia, but doesn't bother to explain why, doesn't that earn him scum points, not town? Why are you applying this logic to Rels, but not me? I've been even more open attacking players whose votes I'd need if I were mafia. I actually don't think so. Sure, you're attacking Conversion (and Rels but it's him vs you anyways right now). But you didn't go after byj lately who is in your tier3 list. You even asked him to vote you: On November 08 2018 05:36 kitaman27 wrote: There is a 35.5% chance regardless of who is elected. You can change your vote, but you really shouldn't. It's just going to pass to Rels afterwards who will get downvoted, then passed to rayn who has the same chance of getting FFF. You said yourself that grack is the only player you trust. I don't think you'll ever get elected so this really is the best you'll get. | ||
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On November 09 2018 06:47 kitaman27 wrote: It's mostly a couple of one liners about me and prpl being together though after the day one events. I really can't imagine a town Rels seeing prpl waffling around suggesting that I be elected because I'm "nice" with no other good reason and then deciding "Ah ha! I've find the scum duo". Like how does that even make sense? That's why I think there has to be more, that he didn't said. On November 06 2018 10:41 Rels wrote: I'm pretty sure I have a few more posts on my filter regarding kita. Regardless I'll make a bigger post if he's ever considered for a chancellor That seems like he thinks he has more post that are more than the kita/prplhz thing. | ||
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On November 09 2018 06:51 prplhz wrote: Didn't just everybody do that? You townread krogan all game, above Grackaroni, why did you choose Grackaroni now? I don't get why people townread Grackaroni for passing me 2L. I sort of understand his reasoning to do it (didn't want to risk a fascist policy if he could force a liberal), but that is no reason to town read him. It's more an excuse for not wanting to pass me 1L1F and get a better read on me on top of a liberal policy. I townread Grack since he said he would vote no to his own team. | ||
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On October 30 2018 22:12 Rels wrote: I would prefer to not elect a president right away to have more time to discuss. Like in resistance On October 30 2018 22:15 Rels wrote: As opposed to what ? Hard to read ? What's the benefit of that ? I don't understand where is the "are you sure" also it is not the correct order. | ||
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On October 30 2018 22:18 Rels wrote: Ok. But I don't understand you townread kita in the first place for being nice. When apparently you think hes a good scum player Where does the fascist come from here? I don't understand. Are you just faking it? | ||
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But I don't know where he is coming from. | ||
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On November 09 2018 08:13 happykrogan wrote: But isn't it the dumbest thing to fake that? But I don't know where he is coming from. Maybe he wants people to panic and just vote him, outing himself as fascist and getting a fascist policy through. I really can't think of another explanation. | ||
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