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Sergiovan
Profile Joined August 2018
90 Posts
September 07 2018 16:01 GMT
#81
Qatol: Heard.

The first post of Koshi’s which I feel looks scummy is the one where he says he will post once more to appear active and good. That post added nothing to town while also suggesting to me that he is concerned with his appearance rather than finding scum. In my experience those traits suggest scum.

As to Kaley versus Kelsier I don’t have a great reason more of a gut feeling. Kaley’s dumb picture feels town aligned to me, I didn’t get that feeling from the dumb coffee talk.

I’m getting the flood control warning from TL so I’m going to write a really big post rather than reply to things individually.

Kelsier: if you believe that Koshi’s post are not indicative of scum behavior who do you think is scum? Do you agree with my Kaley read, why or why not?
Kaley
Profile Blog Joined August 2018
64 Posts
September 07 2018 16:06 GMT
#82
RIP Burt, Kelsiers not hurting
he glad another game is churning
Tides arent turning cuz there aint no tides yet
nobody's got a concept of how to start shit
worthwhile.. rayn is sipping his coffee too
Qats a hater hatin on my my rhymin oh boo hoo
votes a tron saying there ain't nothin to be townread
n a resume n that i be spending effort i should go to bed
but nah, this shits like breathin for me fool
once i get into the groove i be spittin just to keep myself enthused
...y'all be trippin,
if y'all think i should quit this sick spittahn
all y'all gotta do is vote me outa tha game, your read is lame sergiovahn
but don't be alarmed it's only page 2
you got a lot of chances ahead of you
but don't you go 180 on yours tru
ly i hope you keep me where I also happen to be
cuz i'm town my homie as i said don't go degree on me
but if you scum tho you're bout to fall on your face
and then i'll be there to make a sick case
but yo kayls I ain't no smurf
i'm new to this turf and i'm the lesbatron
so don't be callin me a he, sergio, son
And don't you let qat give you that veteran crap nee
duh my reads are rayn and qat to 2/3 be
the .. mafia team
i'm bout intervene
just watch me Charlie Sheen
n place this vote on rayn ftw.

vote: raynpelikoneet
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 07 2018 16:06 GMT
#83
On September 08 2018 00:25 Sergiovan wrote:
Apparently I do, can you please link that game so that I can look into it?

Do you have a history with Kaley where you feel his mindset would be carefree as mafia?

This ia the game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/533201-elementary-mafia

I dont have a history with Kaley, assuming they are not a smurf. I am saying it isn't "cafefree attitude" and even if it was it doesnt make him town. In fact hiding behind a "mask" is more likely mafia behavior. I hope i dont have to explain why basically making your alignment unreadable doesnt favor town.

People who make "funny posts" too often get a pass just because they make funny posts. But like Qatol pointed out, what did Kaley actually say?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 07 2018 16:25 GMT
#84
You guys are lucky to have me. I am so funny.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 07 2018 16:28 GMT
#85
I hope Kaley is a girl. Or gay.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 07 2018 16:29 GMT
#86
Oh I read some words in her post. Maybe both.
I had a good night of sleep.
Sergiovan
Profile Joined August 2018
90 Posts
September 07 2018 16:30 GMT
#87
Rayn: I don’t see the similarities honestly. Jealous was hiding in his MS paint pictures. Kaley is communicating - kinda. Foolishness posted all in limericks as town; this feels like it could easily be the more modern and way less erudite version. Kaley has posted some reads and is keeping up with and is involved in the thread. I’m not going to hold on to her as town based on this early read without anything else out of her but I don’t see any way a Kaley lynch as beneficial day 1.

Kaley: if you disagree with my read on Koshi does that mean you have him as town or just not a scum read currently? Why Rayn, what makes him scum in your eyes?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 07 2018 16:30 GMT
#88
Kaley is just not a good name for a manly man.
No offense.
I had a good night of sleep.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22136 Posts
September 07 2018 16:31 GMT
#89
I think Sergio is overanalyzing early game stuff, but not in a necessarily scummy way, he may just be overeager townie. That makes me unable to agree with him on his points. I believe he shouldn't give so much weight to what Koshi did so far.

I think kaley is town. Btw I never was able to like rap/hip-hop. Hard for me to explain this read, mostly gut and that he's going after rayn of all people.

Not a big fan of a Qatols version as a summary is the best that anyone could have delivered on early game banter and I see the opportunity for mafia here to jump on a kaley lynch after rayn (if town) said he would p-lynch for the rap. I'll ultimately refrain from scumreading Qatol here as pushing arguments early here is a good thing for town and not necessary for mafia, but I don't agree with them.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 07 2018 16:32 GMT
#90
Well she just went for "i do anti-town things and when i am called out those people are the ones i call scum" -strategy. lol

Ftr she still hasnt said anything, except for the above.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 07 2018 16:34 GMT
#91
On September 08 2018 01:31 Vivax wrote:
...that he's going after rayn of all people.


Why is this any kind of factor in you judging her?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 07 2018 16:37 GMT
#92
Anyways i like Serge and Qatol the most so far. Kelsier can also be town for the time being but my reasoning is kinda dumb so yeah.. there is that.

Thats all i have so far.
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Sergiovan
Profile Joined August 2018
90 Posts
September 07 2018 16:42 GMT
#93
Vivax: I’m aware that I’m over analyzing this meager thread but what else am I gonna do, wait for someone else to do it? We have 6/13 players who haven’t even posted yet I would be shocked if there isn’t at least a scummer or two hiding in the in-actives so I’m going to do my best to figure out the actives.
Why do you think Kaley is town?

Rayn: she has said things, her most recent post has reads in it. Why tunnel Kaley, do you truly believe that she is the scummiest person in this thread?

Koshi: why are you spamming garbage? I’m told that you aren’t terrible so what do you believe you are adding to this town?
Sergiovan
Profile Joined August 2018
90 Posts
September 07 2018 16:45 GMT
#94
Rayn: what is your dumb reasoning for Kelsier? I don’t see it in your filter.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 07 2018 16:52 GMT
#95
I am not tunneling her. I am asking her to stop that whatever she is doing and asking her to play mafia instead.

Kelsier basically promised to play, which historically easily gives away his alignment sooner or later (most likely sooner). Postwise i dont really have a reason to think he is anything but i am like 70% sure he wouldnt make that promise as mafia. He doent tend to be a high volume poster, except for his last couple of town games where he also looked really townie. I mean like, i would expect, if he is mafia, he wouldnt appear to "tryhard" since him NOT doing so doesnt automatically make him mafia.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 07 2018 17:14 GMT
#96
rayn: those last 4 lines are bad. Don't let your initial Kelsier feels compromise you in the future.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 07 2018 17:15 GMT
#97
##unvote
##vote Qatol

Pretty sure Vivax is already unlynchable D1. Smart guy.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 07 2018 17:16 GMT
#98
On September 08 2018 02:14 Koshi wrote:
rayn: those last 4 lines are bad. Don't let your initial Kelsier feels compromise you in the future.

That's exactly why i said dumb reasoning.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 07 2018 17:17 GMT
#99
On September 08 2018 02:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2018 02:14 Koshi wrote:
rayn: those last 4 lines are bad. Don't let your initial Kelsier feels compromise you in the future.

That's exactly why i said dumb reasoning.

I don't read all the things.

I have 3 townreads.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 07 2018 17:20 GMT
#100
Koshi can you elaborate on Vivax?
The only thing i remember from Vivax that actually was something else than boring is the one i asked him about. Because i cant really see how he assumes that as town.
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