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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 07 2018 17:23 GMT
#101
Like Vivax said he has a townread based on gut and an unreasoble reason, and everything else can be anything. I dnu how that warrants a townread.
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 07 2018 17:25 GMT
#102
On September 08 2018 00:35 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2018 00:17 Sergiovan wrote:
And Time is finally on my side, I get to be here for a bit.

I don’t know anyone particularly well so if any of you can add meta reads to what I’m seeing I would appreciate the help. My meta knowledge is, at best, deeply outdated.

I believe that Koshi is the best lynch of the people who have posted this far. His most recent post shows that he is aware of how he appears and is nervous about it and is trying to fit in to the town atmosphere.

Kaley seems most town to me, I like his image post. It shows a carefree mindset which I believe is hard to fake as scum.

Koshi, Vivax and Kaley - the three of you have all posted in the past hour so I assume you are still here. Koshi please respond to my Kaley read. Kaley please respond to my Koshi read. Vivax please respond to both.


Unfortunately, I predate everyone here except RebirthOfLegend, so my meta reads are nonexistent. I've helped host a game that Meapak played in, but, unless I'm forgetting something, I haven't played with him.


I'm not so sure about your Koshi read without more. You lost me when you say "he is aware of how he appears." Do you mean he showed he is nervous with his "I am town" post? That looked like relatively typical early game fluff to me.


Interesting that you read Kaley as carefree. What about it is so different about the picture to you than, for example, Kelsier posting about coffee?

Bolded is boring
Italic and underlined are questions that aren't inquisitive towards Sergio imo. Looks more like conversation to appear active.

Anyway. I have given away much information. Now he will adapt. Is this good? I don't know.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 07 2018 17:26 GMT
#103
Long story short.

Qatol is bleh. Vivax noticed. I like Vivax.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 07 2018 17:27 GMT
#104
I see there is a difference between underlined and italic btw. I feel it is icky.

ICKY FEELS
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 07 2018 17:29 GMT
#105
More like short story shorter.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 07 2018 17:31 GMT
#106
@Sergio: Please answer seriously after watching this.
+ Show Spoiler +
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 07 2018 17:31 GMT
#107
On September 08 2018 02:26 Koshi wrote:
Long story short.

Qatol is bleh. Vivax noticed. I like Vivax.

Ah okay. That makes more sense. I didnt know where Vivax was referring to since i only caught Qatol's point on Kaley which i agreed on.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 07 2018 17:31 GMT
#108
I forgot the question but watch first.
+ Show Spoiler +
Who is the best Sergio?
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 07 2018 17:34 GMT
#109
Well Koshi is town for sure.
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 07 2018 17:39 GMT
#110
Time to afk with all this towncred from town leader rayn.
I had a good night of sleep.
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
September 07 2018 17:44 GMT
#111
On September 08 2018 01:31 Vivax wrote:
I think Sergio is overanalyzing early game stuff, but not in a necessarily scummy way, he may just be overeager townie. That makes me unable to agree with him on his points. I believe he shouldn't give so much weight to what Koshi did so far.

I think kaley is town. Btw I never was able to like rap/hip-hop. Hard for me to explain this read, mostly gut and that he's going after rayn of all people.

Not a big fan of a Qatols version as a summary is the best that anyone could have delivered on early game banter and I see the opportunity for mafia here to jump on a kaley lynch after rayn (if town) said he would p-lynch for the rap. I'll ultimately refrain from scumreading Qatol here as pushing arguments early here is a good thing for town and not necessary for mafia, but I don't agree with them.


I don't know if overanalyzing is the right word. The first 24 hours of a game are often the most obnoxious because there isn't much to talk about; I think Sergio accusing someone gives us meaningful discussion to look at, as opposed to "the next person to post is mafia." Sergio hasn't said anything so far that makes me think tunnel vision is occurring.

Why exactly do you think Kaley going after rayn without providing any reasoning is a town action? Kaley claims to be new, so what makes rayn different from anyone else?

Also, why are you worried about bandwagon votes, rather than just straight up looking for them?
Uff Da
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
September 07 2018 17:54 GMT
#112
On September 08 2018 01:06 Kaley wrote:
RIP Burt, Kelsiers not hurting
he glad another game is churning
Tides arent turning cuz there aint no tides yet
nobody's got a concept of how to start shit
worthwhile.. rayn is sipping his coffee too
Qats a hater hatin on my my rhymin oh boo hoo
votes a tron saying there ain't nothin to be townread
n a resume n that i be spending effort i should go to bed
but nah, this shits like breathin for me fool
once i get into the groove i be spittin just to keep myself enthused
...y'all be trippin,
if y'all think i should quit this sick spittahn
all y'all gotta do is vote me outa tha game, your read is lame sergiovahn
but don't be alarmed it's only page 2
you got a lot of chances ahead of you
but don't you go 180 on yours tru
ly i hope you keep me where I also happen to be
cuz i'm town my homie as i said don't go degree on me
but if you scum tho you're bout to fall on your face
and then i'll be there to make a sick case
but yo kayls I ain't no smurf
i'm new to this turf and i'm the lesbatron
so don't be callin me a he, sergio, son
And don't you let qat give you that veteran crap nee
duh my reads are rayn and qat to 2/3 be
the .. mafia team
i'm bout intervene
just watch me Charlie Sheen
n place this vote on rayn ftw.

vote: raynpelikoneet

Translated into English:
rehash of early game filler, Qatol is a hater for picking on my rhyming, sergio has bad reads, I'm town and I think Qatol and rayn are mafia.

Again, I fail to see how this is really contributing. There is no reasoning. Why is sergio's read lame? What did rayn say that made you vote him? This is posting to make it look like you're contributing when you really aren't doing anything.
Uff Da
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22245 Posts
September 07 2018 17:58 GMT
#113
The reason I think that it is unlikely for mafia kaley to push a town rayn is that he's typically one of the guys you can expect a lot of resistance from.

Conversely I see it more likely that a mafia goes after kaley here when a town rayn already hinted that he would lynch for rping.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 07 2018 18:08 GMT
#114
On September 08 2018 02:58 Vivax wrote:
The reason I think that it is unlikely for mafia kaley to push a town rayn is that he's typically one of the guys you can expect a lot of resistance from.

See here is the catch. How can Kaley know that?
Do you know something i dont?
table for two on a tv tray
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
September 07 2018 18:13 GMT
#115
On September 08 2018 02:58 Vivax wrote:
The reason I think that it is unlikely for mafia kaley to push a town rayn is that he's typically one of the guys you can expect a lot of resistance from.

Conversely I see it more likely that a mafia goes after kaley here when a town rayn already hinted that he would lynch for rping.

Why would a new player know that rayn is going to provide a lot of resistance? Unless you think the mafia are coordinating the people they are going to accuse in thread? I fail to see how this point weighs in either direction unless the mafia are doing a lot of communicating behind the scenes or Kaley is a smurf.
Uff Da
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
September 07 2018 18:15 GMT
#116
I don't have a strong set of reads at the moment. But I can respond to sergiovan's question. I don't have a read either way on Kaley. In the past I would find it irritating with players doing roleplays or posting rhymes but this isn't a very helpful attitude.
It's a predetermined way of playing so you can't read from it, just going to let her have fun.

I don't agree at all with vivax's comment that she is town because she voted rayn and that would be unlikely to go through.
1) Apparently she is new so has no idea about rayn's history
2) It's still the first day of the game in D1 and its a vote at the end of an enigmatic rhyme, you could vote to lynch Pat Buchanon and it wouldn't mean anything.

Vivax is probably my top scum read right now due to this reason, his only "big post" had 3 comments that didn't give strong reads either way and then 50% gut instinct.

I have a question for rayn as to why koshi is town and vice versa
Zerg for Life
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22245 Posts
September 07 2018 18:23 GMT
#117
I don't see how anyone could think that kaley is anything but a smurf.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
September 07 2018 18:26 GMT
#118
On September 08 2018 03:23 Vivax wrote:
I don't see how anyone could think that kaley is anything but a smurf.


Do you think Kaley is making a genuine push on rayn?
Zerg for Life
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22245 Posts
September 07 2018 18:33 GMT
#119
On September 08 2018 03:26 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2018 03:23 Vivax wrote:
I don't see how anyone could think that kaley is anything but a smurf.


Do you think Kaley is making a genuine push on rayn?


For that I'd have had to read the entirety of the post.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
September 07 2018 18:36 GMT
#120
On September 08 2018 03:33 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2018 03:26 KelsierSC wrote:
On September 08 2018 03:23 Vivax wrote:
I don't see how anyone could think that kaley is anything but a smurf.


Do you think Kaley is making a genuine push on rayn?


For that I'd have had to read the entirety of the post.

...

So you town read her for making a "push" on someone who is hard to lynch but you don't even know if it's a real push.
Zerg for Life
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