Newbie Student Mafia XXIX - Page 4

On September 15 2018 02:01 Sergiovan wrote:
Meapak came into the thread late but with an open mindset trying to find scum in a different way than anyone else had up to that point, his post #450 looks really townie to me as it shows what he is thinking about every player and why with the use of a heuristic that makes sense to me. His attempts to discern Alignments from voting patterns are townie as well though, based on my above vote analysis, I don’t think we can find scum that way today.

I’m sticking to my town read there.

Kelsier strikes me as town as well, his play around Kaley d1 felt genuine in that he was annoyed but didn’t find her role playing alignment indicative which is the correct read for a townie in my mind.

Kelsier has been involved in the thread as it moves and is posting quick thoughts and snippets which I think is hard for scum to do. His early game especially shows him being really careless with his posting that just doesn’t seem possible from scum.

Again I think Kelsier is town.

My town right now is Qatol, Meapak and Kelsier with three scum in RoL, Rels, Rayn and Prplhz. In something like that order of likeliness. I will probably end up sheeping Meapak and Qatol onto Rels today since that is the only way I feel that we can insure a town controlled lynch.

On September 15 2018 04:28 Qatol wrote:
As I mentioned in post #606, I think the mafia are basically on cruise control right now. Anyone who has been reading the thread (or at least who has looked at Meapak's post #450) knows that I am on the scumlist of literally almost everyone. Regardless of what you think about my alignment, this makes me an easy target for scum "contributions." I expected to see scum dogpile on me at some point, probably adding more poorly considered fuel to the fire. As you know, basically everyone in the game has been piling on me with various arguments, some more reasoned than others. That makes it extremely likely that the mafia shows up in there somewhere. However, in day 2, only two people really added new content to the fire: Vivax (which was why I scumread him day 2) and Rels.

In particular, Rels's accusation was as follows:
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In other words, his "contribution" was that it isn't pro-town to look for blues. However, as anyone who looks for mafia by evaluating how nervous they appear would know, a huge part of that is distinguishing blues from reds (because both will act nervous when pressured). Plus, sometimes people just make posts that make you think they have a role. If anything, in the context of a discussion about why Koshi was killed, me revealing that I had a blue read on him is more likely to make me town than mafia. However, when I pointed that out to him, instead of thinking about the argument like you would expect from a townie trying to contribute, he instead mindlessly doubles down and tries to make it a blue hunting competition:
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However, at this point, he has justified his crappy vote.

So at this point, I'm already not loving what he has done, but maybe his other contributions to the thread have something that redeems him?
Day 1, he's trying not to get into arguments with anyone. Instead, his posts are either defenses of Vivax or him talking about various people he thinks are probably townie (sergio, rayn, koshi, and kelsier). As Meapak pointed out in post #349, he isn't taking sides with people who are arguing against each other, which is unusual. Instead, he thinks they're all town.
Night 2, he only discusses modkills and a quick support for rayn.

These look like the type of posts I'm expecting out of mafia. He's doing his very best to avoid any sort of controversy while at the same time not really contributing. Literally the only potentially redeeming things I can find in his filter at all are his defense of Vivax (which doesn't bring him under fire) and him being confused about Koshi flipping blue (but this is a mistake scum could easily make).

I also like Meapak's point from post #349 that Rels lazily jumped on the bandwagon for Kaley, mostly in the spirit of "punishing poor town play." (Only excerpt copied below)
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On September 15 2018 05:34 Qatol wrote:

I just realized I exactly misread your post. I think RoL is mafia (not town). I think the second mafia is Rels. I think the last mafia is one of prplhz, KelsierSC, and you. I'm not going to worry about which one right now, as night kills and future posts can provide more clarity.

On September 15 2018 05:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The fuck is even majority, we three can be majority.