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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 30 2018 20:12 GMT
#2010
On July 01 2018 05:08 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2018 05:02 ShoCkeyy wrote:
A few posts from Vivax, that caught my attention:

On June 28 2018 07:59 Vivax wrote:
On June 28 2018 07:58 Conversion wrote:
alright Calix I'll listen to you


Scummy post. Listen to her for switching to bf but not to shockey?


On June 28 2018 08:00 Vivax wrote:
Well awesome JUST when you made everyone switch off shockey cause you didn't want to, you switch to him all of a sudden. Way of being dumpster.


If you notice Vivax attention goes towards Conversion here about Cilax.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/534607-chill-hop-mafia?page=27#530

On June 27 2018 21:43 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I think Vivax is town, after reading convos between Tictock and Calix... Who btw barely even talk to each other in the thread other than "I didn't like your case against Cake".

It stars with Calix here:

On June 26 2018 08:06 Calix wrote:
On June 26 2018 08:05 Tictock wrote:
Well nothing to do but pretend like I am working and play this instead.

What up peeps


Sup, long time no see. Fancy randomly bandwagoning some AFK person for the lulz?


What I've found in past games is that afkers are usually town, and away, since they don't have a huge role in the game, they tend to just sit back, watch, and post when needed. And also honestly, I've notice way more mafia trying to lynch into afk towns, than anything. I would understand the afkers too because I thought the game was starting Tuesday. Not Monday night, so I had to play a large catch up as part of it.

here Calix still trying to put blame on afker's, low post count trying to lynch them off, or Vivax, who is starting to look more town after each post because of the interactions between Tictock and Calix.
On June 27 2018 20:15 Calix wrote:
I'm as good as rayn and HF? Since when? lmao

Anyway I've skimmed the thread. I'm making the executive decision to largely ignore the TWO (!!!) giant cases against me since I'll be working for most of the day and putting me on the defense near EOD is a really bad idea. I'll be around for EOD though so I can do some filter-diving and give reads then ^^

Also Regfan goes up a notch for being sensible, looking into things and discouraging that dumb fight or whatever you'd call it between Tictock and Mocsta (while Mocsta's case was pretty bad, it's not mafia-terrible, I don't think).

Regfan also realises that, in a game where about 1/3 of the players aren't actually playing, lynching someone who is playing on D1 is suboptimal.

Yes, yes, this argument is really self-serving but it's not wrong so you should probably just do it.

In a normal game, this would be the part where I tell you who the best lynch is but I would be lying if I said I had any preference. Sure, I can analyse Koshi/ ShoCkeyy/ Vivax or whine about how terrible it is that two players haven't posted yet. But I don't think it's possible to accurately assess players with such low post counts so I don't see the point of wasting time by pretending to do so. I could lynch literally any of them right now and my thoughts are probably not changing until they actually start doing stuff.


Then tictock's reasoning of not "voting for Cilax"
On June 27 2018 14:00 Tictock wrote:
I think I am also just pretty against lynching Calix today.

I still a bit of sus on her, but her play as the day has gone on has left me feeling like their is a solid chance she could be town here still.

Even if I was still toying with the idea of Calix being in my working Mafia team (which is purely just to keep my imagination going, I don't actually think I have a good chance at pinging the entire team D1), I would probably advocate against her lynch today as she is a bad player to lynch D1.

Honestly I really want to push town to do the smart thing for once D1 and kill off someone like Shokey or Koshi. Boxer deserves something worse than a lynch for signing up with an exclamation right before the game starts then not posting for most of D1 (assuming he does post and nothing truly terrible happened to him).

I also think Vivax is probably a fine lynch, and want more people to relook at Mocsta again since he's fresh on my mind now.


Possibly lynching off a teammate d1 won't work for him, so yea let's go for the afkers or Vivax the well known town...


My post is #530, Cilax claims "vivax" is town almost 600 posts later here. I was on Cilax trail all day yesterday, but was being blinded by watching. After filter diving once again, and re-reading most of the thread, I noticed these little tid bits. What I seem to recall re-reading the end of Day 1 was that Calix was trying to groom Vivax into lynching me, having him focus on my filter, and have my name in his filter end of D1 while Cilax looks like town cilax to Vivax. This is Cilax way after I town read Vivax. Then all the sudden Vivax dies D1.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/534607-chill-hop-mafia?page=57#1126

On June 28 2018 08:38 Calix wrote:
I don't want Vivax dead because I think he's turning into a beautiful butterfly.

And if you look past his posting style, his content's been alright.


One other thing I notice was she did almost the same thing towards TT. Who in the end mod killed himself because he had so much pressure from town, if it wasn't for Cilax KNOWING TT was town.

On June 29 2018 00:00 Calix wrote:
On June 28 2018 23:56 CopCake wrote:
Tbf it is the first time I see someone to put A LOT of effort for someone that is not 100% confirmed.


I defend my town-reads a lot when I am town.

In my first game on this site, TT and I were both town. TT was the D1 lynch and I went out of my way to save him. But I failed. Then people called me mafia for "white-knighting TT". Think that was Haunted Mafia 3 or something.

I also hard-defended Tumblewood against accusations in one of BTDT's Generic Mafia games.

Just two examples off the top of my head.


But how would she know TT is town? unless Cilax is mafia, she would know exactly who is town. Also you can see, she's the first to try and get a bus going, just check her filter, she's all over the place. And continues, even with Vivax at one point. I feel like the Vivax night kill was meant to try and frame me based on his late d1 filter.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/534607-chill-hop-mafia?page=19#379


On June 27 2018 02:28 Calix wrote:
On June 27 2018 02:19 CopCake wrote:
Calix, who are your mafia reads and who are your toen reads and why?

I need two on each category.


I don't have anything insightful with mafia reads. My current thinking is "the active people seem townie so there's probably more mafia in the inactive section" but I also don't know how to sort between boxerfred/ Koshi/ SlenderMan/ Vivax/ ShoCkeyy.

I guess Koshi and Vivax and ShoCkeyy because they've posted and their posts are pretty underwhelming and accomplish even less shit than I have? And Vivax might be trying to pocket/ white-knight me since I'm looking like a likely mislynch right now.

I realise I'm still voting for you so lemme change that: ##Vote: Vivax.

I think Mocsta is town because he seems to be posting off-the-cuff and doesn't seem to have preformed conclusions and is flexible with his reads. His style is different from his last game too.

Conversion's town because he seems to be having fun while still contributing when he wants.

Tictock's probably town. I haven't actually opened his filter though. I'm just being cocky and assuming he'll fuck up really bad at some point if he's scum so I'm not worried about him.


So what's next? A few people seem to be on Cilax side, a few people seem to not. I want to push Cilax, but that depends on how many votes I can get. If I'm needed to lynch some one else, it'll be HF based on this post alone.

On June 28 2018 08:00 Holyflare wrote:
Lo and behold mafia conversion saves mafi bf.


Thoughts?


Why the fuck would you lynch me based off of this?


Because why would you claim conversion is mafia, or bf is mafia other than you already know their roles....
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 30 2018 20:15 GMT
#2013
On July 01 2018 05:10 Calix wrote:
You have just committed to a mafia claim in my eyes.

That post was absolutely terrible.

Your reads HAVEN’T changed at all! You’ve just found NK WIFOM to fling at me


How was it terrible? Because I caught you? Of course you would try to claim it's bad. You said my reads haven't changed, but I added HF and conversion into my reads which I've never done before, but you wouldn't know because you only can claim that I'm "mafia"...
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 30 2018 20:21 GMT
#2022
There's no point on going slenderman on an AFK again... He might be modkilled since he might not even vote again this round... In all honesty, this was my response on Mocsta, which then after switched his vote to Calix after I kept hammering Calix.

On June 28 2018 07:15 ShoCkeyy wrote:
So mocsta comes back, and within 5 mins already votes for me, cool, this guy reads... mafia qt.


I have no real opinion of him yet other than he's reading the last couple of pages, then playing from there...
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 30 2018 20:23 GMT
#2025
Let's say mocsta flips town, who's your next scum reads?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 30 2018 21:01 GMT
#2044
HF, let's say I vote Mocsta based off your read on page 100, and he flips red, who are your other associated members? Copcake, I can't recall, but what is your read on Mocsta again?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 30 2018 21:03 GMT
#2046
boxerfred[5]:boxerfred, Holyflare, Mocsta, Calix, Vivax

In all honesty, there has to at least be one or two mafia members here. Easy mislynch of a town. How quick was mocsta jumping on board with this bus?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 30 2018 21:16 GMT
#2050
Why need to go through the trouble of lynching two people who look like easy mislynches the following days? Knowing that boxerfred plays a pretty mean mafia game when he's actually active, it was an easy kill - I would have done it if I was mafia.

And on your read for Mocsta, I can agree he does seem to vote who ever he saw last talked about in the thread. Also his random vote on me when he comes back, which I said earlier, is what had me teetering on him. Which is why I can give a consideration vote on Mocsta if needed.

On July 01 2018 05:16 Holyflare wrote:
The only reason for you to think calix was mafia after the votes last night was if tt was mafia. She effectively saved you to save tt by voting a lynch that would make her look really bad. Why would she do that if you are town shockeyy?

Why would I not vote you myself if I am mafia with calix and tt is town? Why do I not vote tt or you and get free modkill kills?


I don't think Calix saved me, Vivax saved me.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 30 2018 21:17 GMT
#2051
Or in all honesty, you saved me by starting the BF bus.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 30 2018 21:24 GMT
#2054
Is it considered a save though? Like I said, I still look scummy to people some how, and Calix says I don't change my reads, but neither does she if she's also continue to push my lynch.

So as I mentioned, why try to push two targets who were easily on the chopping block, when you can save it for the following days, and mafia have an even easier target at hand? We're already four town down, with two of them mod killing themselves... obviously mafia is driving madness in this thread and it all started by lynching off an afk user easily.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 30 2018 21:35 GMT
#2064
Hey Cop, I asked this in a different post, maybe you didn;t see but thoughts on Mocsta?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 30 2018 21:42 GMT
#2068
Let's say I think Calix is town, these post align a lot with what you were saying earlier, and that's if I think you're town too.

On June 30 2018 07:21 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2018 02:58 Tictock wrote:
From: KelsierSC [ 9849 posts | Profile | Report ]
Subject: Chill Hop Mafia Role
Date: 6/25/18 16:08

Vanilla:


You have nothing going for you in life.

You can vote.

Reply


Bye TL Mafia, it was fun when I started, last 2 games I have literally hated myself for signing up.

Sorry to the small group of people who don't deserve this shit.


I'm not even gonna BM you, TT, because I relate to this.

This game is crazy. I read the last 8-9 pages and you are all on the wrong track and show no signs of correcting yourselves. TT and HF and I are all really townie and yet half the game thinks we're a mafia team?

Mocsta isn't even doing anything aside from agreeing with thread sentiment at every chance he gets. I see zero initiative from this guy.

Conversion is not even pretending to solve the game, just wants HF dead for voting Boxerfred and OMGUSes me after I case him.

And I've talked about ShoCkeyy 58403967 times at this point.

I just don't see the point of putting in more time to play. I have 11 pages of filter already. My alignment is incredibly obvious at this point and if you guys can't see that, it's on you.


On June 30 2018 07:42 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2018 07:40 Mocsta wrote:
Lol calix

Malleable if someone comes up ejth someyhing better is called lack of ego
And its town as fuck


Whatever you say, Mocsheep.


On June 30 2018 07:47 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2018 07:43 Conversion wrote:
On June 30 2018 07:36 Calix wrote:
On June 30 2018 07:30 Conversion wrote:
I didn't roll scum, actually. Your reasons for scumreading are terrible. You literally townread everyone and instead of critically thinking that Shockeyy + Conversion team is absolutely stupid, you read it as if you having some sort of enlightening moment.

Your post to TT is so dumb. "Oh yeah everyone is playing stupid so you're totally allowed to kill yourself" lol. Like seriously?

Your reasoning right now is rayn is claimed doc town, HF is town, TT is town, you have AFKer Koshi and Slender who's probably town, so you think that Conversion/Shockeyy/Cop, the only three remaining, are the mafia team. Your depth of thinking is terrible and you're either just reaching to try and find sense, or you're just mafia throwing shit and defending confirmed townies to give yourself towncred, and then flipping 180s to the "unsure" townies to gut them against each other.

I don't give a shit about playing a game where people sign up, AFK, barely play, modkill themselves off one of the least toxic games I have witnessed.


Yes, seriously. He was one of the few people I actually LIKED playing with this game and I'm disappointed I can't play with him anymore. And that I have to deal with the rest of the thread.

I think that team makes a lot of sense and insulting me won't change my mind. If I'm so horribly wrong then why not try and correct me? You said I could just be 'misguided town' after all ^^

Rayn self-resolves, yes.

I never said anything about Slender being 'probably town'. I said Koshi was townie for agreeing with me at EOD because I'm vain.

You're implying I defended TT at EOD1 as if I would know he would mod-kill himself, lol.

I don't think CopCake is mafia. You mean Mocsta. Not that I'm 100% convinced there by any stretch. I just find his reads to be extremely malleable whenever someone comes up with something 'better' and he looks worse the more he does it.


Dude has been emo-ing for 24+ hours now, I'm surprised he just didn't modkill himself earlier. That's why I backed the pressure off him, but whatever. This game is so dumb that I run into people with more mental fortitude playing a toxic ass game like DotA.

My head right now is that there is at least one Mafia in this boxerfred nonsense. I'm thinking HF for even initiating it to begin with because the Light of God touched his brain 4 hours before EoD whatever and people followed, which is why I want him dead.

If the rest of the shenanigan wagon is pure, that means the team is HF +2. Mocsta has been doing nothing after he tried to catch up to 20 pages, and his reasoning for boxerfred switch was trash. You and Vivax may be the only two that have an actual reason to do so, and I'm not quite entirely convinced you did it 100% just to save Tictock either.

That makes Hf/Mocsta/Calix my pool since Vivax is dead.

Then we have everyone else. Rayn is town unless someone is going to counterclaim him for whatever reason. Slendy/Me/Copcake/Koshi. Koshi's on vacation or whatever, but mafia!Koshi doesn't play unless he's threatened. He tends to just seep into the background and have people ignore him. I honestly think Cop is town, and I know I'm town because I read my PM and I'm not illiterate

That leaves Hf/Mocsta/Calix/Koshi being my pool, and if you flip town whatever. I don't really want to waste my time trying to figure a game out when two people want to be babies and modkill themselves out when the pressure isn't even heavy and three people don't even play the game and forget they're even playing. Waste of my time.


Then stop playing if this game is such a huge waste of your time instead of telling us about it.

I'm also going to throw up the possibility of Koshi/ Slenderman being two of the mafia. That might explain why people are having such a hard time finding scum-reads and keep pushing obvious townies instead. Because there's only one mafia to be found and since their scum-buddies aren't under any pressure, they can say whatever the fuck they want.

I know people will say "lol Calix is focusing on inactives so she doesn't get lynched" but it's actually a valid world that people should consider at the very least. Well, the part about "town eating itself alive" anyway.

Obviously it's not a world I 100% believe in (since I'm voting for you and think you/ ShoCkeyy/ Mocsta are scummy) but it's something I've been considering. You think this idea holds any water?


I haven't seen any new views on Mocstaf from Calix yet, her last POV was the post above. So I want to hear her new views after your post on Mocstaf as well. Now, my concern is what if Mocstaf is town, and I sheep you for this vote, what then?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 30 2018 21:46 GMT
#2069
Ugh, my emotions says vote Mocsta, especially after Cop said lynch immediately, and I read cop town a while back....
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 30 2018 21:54 GMT
#2079
Fine, I'll vote Mocsta. He's just too everywhere to be playing the game correctly at this point. The only two reasons I'm not voting Cilax is because A) she's like me B) she made posts against Mocsta that are the same points as Vivax.

On June 27 2018 00:15 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2018 00:10 Mocsta wrote:
On June 26 2018 23:53 Holyflare wrote:
It's weak-ish but enough for me to back off him.
fyi

Its not redundant to me


Im heavily a heuristic is true until proven false player

I have no fear to partially out that tell because in my mind at least you cant fabricate ehat im looking for as mafia.

Regardless vivax is painful yo read and showing none if his town laser focus

Im happy between calix and vivax for a vote

Nite 4 realz now


Scummy post.

Ie sucking up to HF then agreeing to vote his scumreads.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 30 2018 22:58 GMT
#2126
On July 01 2018 07:47 Holyflare wrote:
Dead threads, just what I love.


Sorry I’m getting ready to go eat dinner with the wife. But I have my reasoning and I’m basing this off the theory that if Calix is town which HF asked me to do instead of having my “fingers in my ass and ears”
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 30 2018 23:23 GMT
#2170
Don’t mk pls it’s only a game. I’m as upset as the rest of you. Idk how enjoyable my dinner will be now.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 02 2018 04:29 GMT
#2394
On July 02 2018 08:01 Calix wrote:
Slenderman and CopCake are NOT the same alignment.


Those "checks" are idiotic, If I were cop, I would of checked my first suspicion, you and tictock easily. It's like a blank statement trying to fish for responses...

On July 02 2018 08:37 Calix wrote:
And I only 'crumbed' once.

It was with that 'emotional' post where I basically said "don't lynch me today, lynch me on D3" (because I am cop and should hopefully have checks by then)


Can't even link post to where she crumbled, but Koshi immediately did.

On July 02 2018 08:59 Calix wrote:
All I know is that I'm town, Slenderman/ CopCake contains one mafia, and Koshi might be legitimate but I'd need confirmation from rayn.

If rayn keeps to his claim then rayn/ Koshi would have the second mafia otherwise both are town.

Conversion/ HF/ ShoCkeyy contains either 1 mafia (if rayn/ Koshi has scum) or 2 mafia.

If I've made a mistake here then lemme know. This stuff's important for world-building and figuring out which teams are never a thing.


So now Calix is waiting for rayn confirmation that you might have fake claimed? In all honesty, Hf vs Calix is a situation I see most likely happening as well Conversion. If HF was vig, why not shoot calix as he did claim? Then you have copcake also trying to claim some type of role here.

On July 01 2018 11:31 CopCake wrote:
What if...

I am a role...



Like this all just makes it extremely confusing to even lynch some one... in all honesty if rayn claims too, which I know he crumbled as well, I will go mad. I'm not staying around any longer, this has been frustrating since the game started. I have a very important meeting tomorrow morning. GN.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 02 2018 22:26 GMT
#2538
Calix voting Slenderman because he has a self vote? Just like D1 to vote town boxerfred... Rayn you think HF would bus his partner if true? I can definitely see a HF/Calix/? team here. I followed HF d2 push against mocsta, along side Calix who also had her "suspicions" on him, and I'm an idiot for "pretending Calix is town".

Don't be fooled for that CopCake, again...
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 02 2018 22:32 GMT
#2549
On July 03 2018 07:30 Holyflare wrote:
Still not mafia.

Don't say my vote on mocsta was bad when you couldn't be bothered to even read it either. I put in a lot of effort correcting all the vote counts and trying to figure it out.


I literally voted Mocsta because you told me to read your case against him, what?
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 02 2018 22:34 GMT
#2551
I even went out of my way and pretended Calix was "town" to see past my "calix is mafia" and try something different like you requested, went through her filter and found even more of a case against Mocsta. First it was lynch the afk town, which I was thoroughly against, then Mocsta. So you can't say I didn't read...
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
July 03 2018 21:17 GMT
#2648
go england
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