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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 26 2018 13:53 GMT
#261
On June 26 2018 22:49 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2018 22:46 Holyflare wrote:
On June 26 2018 22:38 Calix wrote:
On June 26 2018 22:28 Holyflare wrote:
On June 26 2018 21:19 Mocsta wrote:
On June 26 2018 08:09 Tictock wrote:
Meh, don't see the point when that is literally everyone but us atm.

Ask me again in an hour...

Actually n/m, pointless voting is pointless. I'll prob find some actual work to do.
hf

Reading this agaib.. i can sorta see tixtock writing the strike as a joke. Realising its stupid so writes the next part but decides to strike as he personally thinks ita funny


But it's not funny and that's my point. If it's a joke it's trying too hard to blend in. If it's real it's unnatural. Just feels wrong no matter what to me.


Do you have any other reads? You're bringing up TT a lot to try and explain what's essentially a tone read but without really pushing it, adding new reasons, looking at the bigger picture, etc, so I am curious.


I think you're scummy and Vivax too since he created more discussion about the "pointless post" and made absolutely no conclusions on it.

Regfan towny, mocsta looks not bad like last game, rayn also not bad. Cop I will never read anything other than confusing.

Conversion is meh but I don't hate what he's said.

No idea who else is in the game really so my reads are super weak.


Why am I scummy exactly?

I agree Vivax's post is bad.

And how so re: Conversion?


I think your original push on cop wasn't great and was pushed on really mediocre points too hard. I don't like how you kept it up while rayn was disproving it either. It feels like you're grumpy that you shouldn't be pushing copcake anymore rather than pleased it gets rid of a confusing person.

You're more concerned with how you look than figuring out.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 26 2018 13:58 GMT
#264
Don't particularly care. It's obvious she is a confusing player just from reading her posts.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 26 2018 14:40 GMT
#279
On June 26 2018 23:29 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2018 18:06 Holyflare wrote:
On June 26 2018 11:34 Mocsta wrote:
On June 26 2018 11:25 CopCake wrote:
On June 26 2018 11:21 Mocsta wrote:
On June 26 2018 10:58 CopCake wrote:
Am I town or am I mafia rayn?
This question caught me off guard.
If anything, I was anticipating CopCake to declare Rayn: town or mafia.

Clearly, the "early game' scum reads struck a chord with CopCake enough to contribute his/her independent thought process of those reads (e.g. Tictock). At minimum, I was expecting that thought process to follow through to the initiator.

Therefore, I find this exchange odd.

Yes its a dead question - which obviously town can ask.
But i find it odd, because its a dead question to someone that I thought woudl be on CopCake radar.


Lol, the question is to make a better read on rayn.

@Regfan that question is too early to ask since not everyone has posted but I would shot HF as mafia.

I dont get his tt reasons.
i dont understand how it leads to anything.
If rayn calls you town, as either alignment, you will walk away feeling good about yaself.
If rayn calls yo mafia, as either alignment, you will walk away with a sense of OMGUS.

Dead question.

Having said that, I do share suspicion towards Holyflare.
Not enough to lean scum, but enough to pay extra attention to new content.

Whether you agreed or not, at least to me, superfically, the Tictock stuff is fine.
On the otherhand, whilst the strikethrough is more likely to be mafia than town in origin, its not conclusive and I find to be overly hammed up by HF.

My expectation for a town!HF is for him to do his own campaigning. If he does this, even if its against me. I shall call him town. We will have to wait and see.


What an utterly redundant post.

I still think tt is mafia. I can't explain it to you other than the phrasing he is using seems overly wordy for the little points he is making which I don't usually feel like from tt.


How is his post redundant? Seems more like you see the words scum and HF too close by each other but say it's redundant to cover up that that's the real reason.


Are you actually just mafia then? This is a really weird post to pick out because not only does it make perfect sense why it's redundant but I've further explained why and also simultaneously stopped pushing mocsta for it.

It's redundant because for hypothetical sake say I'm town and mocsta is mafia and knows I'm town. His whole post is phrased as suspicion towards me but then gives me perfect information of how and what would change his mind. Why bother posting that if he's town and is suspicious of me? I either do it or don't and then you make a decision. This would just give me free info to be town read as mafia. Not very thought out and isn't something i think I'd personally post.

##vote vivax
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 26 2018 14:43 GMT
#280
On June 26 2018 22:40 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2018 11:16 CopCake wrote:
Rayn I am surprised I am not town to you 😞


scummy post

On June 26 2018 22:41 Vivax wrote:
ie thinking about perception of own alignment

##vote Copcake



Of all the posts cake has made I think this is even one of her more towny ones. How does mafia say they think they should be town read by someone?

Odd filter vivax. Don't like.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 26 2018 14:52 GMT
#286
On June 26 2018 14:59 Mocsta wrote:
Following a re-read:

(1) I was perhaps a touch OMGUS towards Regfan. I dont think this is the best place for a vote so ##Unvote

(2) i don't have a strong opinion on game state. If anything, the activity and content has been really good.
- Things like HF read fine to me.
- Rayn play so far, is highly reminiscent of the game just finished. If i had to call one player town, it would be Rayn.

(3) Things I am uncertain of with low care factor
- Conversion: purely a heuristic where after such a long self-ban. I thought he would be itching to do more than just throw some randoms hit around.
- Tictock: because whilst I liked the later posts, it is still not reminding me of the last game I played with him where I vividly remember him as this guy that is all about "accuracy" and his "own logical model". In fairness, the environment of the game state is somewhat different, so im still battling whether this is alignment indicative or not.

(4) Things I am uncertain of with moderate care factor (Calix + CopCake).
- Calix: for the reasons already expressed in the thread. Which will be easy to prove/disprove once active.
- CopCake: has some early exchanges that on a second read I took as pocketing. I need to think about this more, but is just giving me some vibes of things that I personally try to do when mafia.

(5) I still think Regfan are focused heavily on things that I don't think are important to scum hunting; and definitely are giving a different weighting to things early game than myself. But this doesn't make them mafia. I am struggling with reading the hydra pairing somewhat as I find them DRASTICALLY different. Even if they were mafia, I would rather lynch them as the second or third because of that uncertainty.


I was ready to scum read mocsta for his "redundant post" and because he scum read regfan who looked quite not scummy but then he made this post. I think the regfan reevaluation is really towny since nobody was countering his arguments and there's no need to posture that regfan could be town if mocsta was mafia.

I also didn't have a strong lean on anyone else really and most of what he says here echos what I just said a few posts ago.

Just the points he says to look into slowly started going from opposite of what I was thinking to converging to my skim through.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 26 2018 14:53 GMT
#287
It's weak-ish but enough for me to back off him.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 26 2018 14:58 GMT
#289
On June 26 2018 23:48 CopCake wrote:
I dont think I have been confusing at all this game so quit that bullshit to have a null read on me HF. If I was so confusing people like TT or Mocca wouldnt have followed my process of thinking.

I dont know if there is a seer or not, I read the rules and it said there is like a cop and a roleblocker as much depending of the set up. But Alas, I took regfan’s silly post as that, silly because I dont think someone “smart” would do that and expect to be taken seriously, it was obvious a meme post lr some shit. (Which was already verified that is a copy pasta by regfan)

Either way, I think that is easy to deduce and no one should have felt offended like rayn and I think HF did.

Regfan’s first post is NOT town or mafia indicative.

Now I am gonna post for ##Calix

Reasons later but the principal is how calix came out of nowhere to build a case.

What was the post that made you think I was mafia and made you take the effort to filter me Calix? 🤭


I think you are a confusing person to read. That's just my opinion. Sorry if there's people that disagree with it but I'm just not gonna make a read on you and defer it to other people.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 26 2018 15:10 GMT
#292
So your scum read is just.... Rayn?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 26 2018 15:11 GMT
#293
And the only reason cop isn't mafia is because rayn/copcake doesn't make sense together???
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 26 2018 15:18 GMT
#300
On June 27 2018 00:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2018 23:52 Holyflare wrote:
On June 26 2018 14:59 Mocsta wrote:
Following a re-read:

(1) I was perhaps a touch OMGUS towards Regfan. I dont think this is the best place for a vote so ##Unvote

(2) i don't have a strong opinion on game state. If anything, the activity and content has been really good.
- Things like HF read fine to me.
- Rayn play so far, is highly reminiscent of the game just finished. If i had to call one player town, it would be Rayn.

(3) Things I am uncertain of with low care factor
- Conversion: purely a heuristic where after such a long self-ban. I thought he would be itching to do more than just throw some randoms hit around.
- Tictock: because whilst I liked the later posts, it is still not reminding me of the last game I played with him where I vividly remember him as this guy that is all about "accuracy" and his "own logical model". In fairness, the environment of the game state is somewhat different, so im still battling whether this is alignment indicative or not.

(4) Things I am uncertain of with moderate care factor (Calix + CopCake).
- Calix: for the reasons already expressed in the thread. Which will be easy to prove/disprove once active.
- CopCake: has some early exchanges that on a second read I took as pocketing. I need to think about this more, but is just giving me some vibes of things that I personally try to do when mafia.

(5) I still think Regfan are focused heavily on things that I don't think are important to scum hunting; and definitely are giving a different weighting to things early game than myself. But this doesn't make them mafia. I am struggling with reading the hydra pairing somewhat as I find them DRASTICALLY different. Even if they were mafia, I would rather lynch them as the second or third because of that uncertainty.


I was ready to scum read mocsta for his "redundant post" and because he scum read regfan who looked quite not scummy but then he made this post. I think the regfan reevaluation is really towny since nobody was countering his arguments and there's no need to posture that regfan could be town if mocsta was mafia.

I also didn't have a strong lean on anyone else really and most of what he says here echos what I just said a few posts ago.

Just the points he says to look into slowly started going from opposite of what I was thinking to converging to my skim through.

ugggghhhhhhhhhhh........ this is annoying.
this is probably the only post i can see mocsta making as mafia.


Why is it annoying rather than him just being town?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 26 2018 15:19 GMT
#301
On June 27 2018 00:18 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2018 00:11 Holyflare wrote:
And the only reason cop isn't mafia is because rayn/copcake doesn't make sense together???


No. I didn't hate some of CopCake's later posts and her tone's gotten better.


Which ones specifically?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 26 2018 15:28 GMT
#308
On June 27 2018 00:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2018 00:18 Holyflare wrote:
On June 27 2018 00:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 26 2018 23:52 Holyflare wrote:
On June 26 2018 14:59 Mocsta wrote:
Following a re-read:

(1) I was perhaps a touch OMGUS towards Regfan. I dont think this is the best place for a vote so ##Unvote

(2) i don't have a strong opinion on game state. If anything, the activity and content has been really good.
- Things like HF read fine to me.
- Rayn play so far, is highly reminiscent of the game just finished. If i had to call one player town, it would be Rayn.

(3) Things I am uncertain of with low care factor
- Conversion: purely a heuristic where after such a long self-ban. I thought he would be itching to do more than just throw some randoms hit around.
- Tictock: because whilst I liked the later posts, it is still not reminding me of the last game I played with him where I vividly remember him as this guy that is all about "accuracy" and his "own logical model". In fairness, the environment of the game state is somewhat different, so im still battling whether this is alignment indicative or not.

(4) Things I am uncertain of with moderate care factor (Calix + CopCake).
- Calix: for the reasons already expressed in the thread. Which will be easy to prove/disprove once active.
- CopCake: has some early exchanges that on a second read I took as pocketing. I need to think about this more, but is just giving me some vibes of things that I personally try to do when mafia.

(5) I still think Regfan are focused heavily on things that I don't think are important to scum hunting; and definitely are giving a different weighting to things early game than myself. But this doesn't make them mafia. I am struggling with reading the hydra pairing somewhat as I find them DRASTICALLY different. Even if they were mafia, I would rather lynch them as the second or third because of that uncertainty.


I was ready to scum read mocsta for his "redundant post" and because he scum read regfan who looked quite not scummy but then he made this post. I think the regfan reevaluation is really towny since nobody was countering his arguments and there's no need to posture that regfan could be town if mocsta was mafia.

I also didn't have a strong lean on anyone else really and most of what he says here echos what I just said a few posts ago.

Just the points he says to look into slowly started going from opposite of what I was thinking to converging to my skim through.

ugggghhhhhhhhhhh........ this is annoying.
this is probably the only post i can see mocsta making as mafia.


Why is it annoying rather than him just being town?

It is not about Mocsta, it's because i was starting to think you are town and now i don't know. Where ever does Holyflare completely discard a post where a person says "i am gonna lay off from my scumread" and then end the post with "this is still basically my top scumread"?


I mean, he doesn't. He just acknowledges that his initial points were shit and then makes the point you've been repeating that the hydra heads don't align in their thoughts. So why don't you like it?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 26 2018 15:29 GMT
#310
On June 27 2018 00:22 Vivax wrote:
I remember vividly HF complaining in a chat we had that the new player batch tended to say "x is scummy y is townie" without explaining why.

Yet now he does it himself and everyone around him as well. I explain pretty much every reason for a post being scummy or townie, as simple as the reasons may be.

Basically none of you seem to give a shit about the though process behind my posts. You just call them scummy or townie as it suits your needs.


Where have I not explained my reads?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 26 2018 15:39 GMT
#318
On June 27 2018 00:31 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2018 00:29 Holyflare wrote:
On June 27 2018 00:22 Vivax wrote:
I remember vividly HF complaining in a chat we had that the new player batch tended to say "x is scummy y is townie" without explaining why.

Yet now he does it himself and everyone around him as well. I explain pretty much every reason for a post being scummy or townie, as simple as the reasons may be.

Basically none of you seem to give a shit about the though process behind my posts. You just call them scummy or townie as it suits your needs.


Where have I not explained my reads?


You vote me after I criticize your post so there is no apparent reason for you to SR me except ditto?


I thought it was seld evident from what I wrote. Your entry into the thread has been mediocre, you have like 4 posts and one of them is picking out copcake and specifically a post I thought was one of the townier ones she has made. You then criticise a post I made but seemingly for no reason since you haven't attached a read to it nor have given a read on me at any point (maybe even town read on me by virtue of what you just wrote on mocsta).

It's worse because the specific point you raised about my post is:

Already fully explained why it is redundant
Already moot by virtue of my follow up points
A self evident post on why it is redundant

Pretty much, I do not like the posts you've chosen to comment on nor do I like the conclusions you are drawing. Feel free to change my mind though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 26 2018 15:41 GMT
#321
On June 27 2018 00:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2018 00:28 Holyflare wrote:
On June 27 2018 00:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 27 2018 00:18 Holyflare wrote:
On June 27 2018 00:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 26 2018 23:52 Holyflare wrote:
On June 26 2018 14:59 Mocsta wrote:
Following a re-read:

(1) I was perhaps a touch OMGUS towards Regfan. I dont think this is the best place for a vote so ##Unvote

(2) i don't have a strong opinion on game state. If anything, the activity and content has been really good.
- Things like HF read fine to me.
- Rayn play so far, is highly reminiscent of the game just finished. If i had to call one player town, it would be Rayn.

(3) Things I am uncertain of with low care factor
- Conversion: purely a heuristic where after such a long self-ban. I thought he would be itching to do more than just throw some randoms hit around.
- Tictock: because whilst I liked the later posts, it is still not reminding me of the last game I played with him where I vividly remember him as this guy that is all about "accuracy" and his "own logical model". In fairness, the environment of the game state is somewhat different, so im still battling whether this is alignment indicative or not.

(4) Things I am uncertain of with moderate care factor (Calix + CopCake).
- Calix: for the reasons already expressed in the thread. Which will be easy to prove/disprove once active.
- CopCake: has some early exchanges that on a second read I took as pocketing. I need to think about this more, but is just giving me some vibes of things that I personally try to do when mafia.

(5) I still think Regfan are focused heavily on things that I don't think are important to scum hunting; and definitely are giving a different weighting to things early game than myself. But this doesn't make them mafia. I am struggling with reading the hydra pairing somewhat as I find them DRASTICALLY different. Even if they were mafia, I would rather lynch them as the second or third because of that uncertainty.


I was ready to scum read mocsta for his "redundant post" and because he scum read regfan who looked quite not scummy but then he made this post. I think the regfan reevaluation is really towny since nobody was countering his arguments and there's no need to posture that regfan could be town if mocsta was mafia.

I also didn't have a strong lean on anyone else really and most of what he says here echos what I just said a few posts ago.

Just the points he says to look into slowly started going from opposite of what I was thinking to converging to my skim through.

ugggghhhhhhhhhhh........ this is annoying.
this is probably the only post i can see mocsta making as mafia.


Why is it annoying rather than him just being town?

It is not about Mocsta, it's because i was starting to think you are town and now i don't know. Where ever does Holyflare completely discard a post where a person says "i am gonna lay off from my scumread" and then end the post with "this is still basically my top scumread"?


I mean, he doesn't. He just acknowledges that his initial points were shit and then makes the point you've been repeating that the hydra heads don't align in their thoughts. So why don't you like it?

I like it?
Why don't you?
Why do you like him saying he isn't sure but still hasn't got anything better to offer?

Once again, this isn't about Mocsta for me. You call him mafia every game regardless of his affiliation for the stuff he says that is irrational or "irrational". Why are you so agreeable now?


I've never said I didn't like it? What are you talking about?

I like him saying he isn't sure but has nothing better to offer because it mimics what I've been thinking. There's a lot of posts but there was nothing standing out at the time as overtly scummy. Lots of things to comment on but nothing to go ahead with.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 26 2018 15:45 GMT
#324
On June 27 2018 00:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2018 00:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 27 2018 00:28 Holyflare wrote:
On June 27 2018 00:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 27 2018 00:18 Holyflare wrote:
On June 27 2018 00:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 26 2018 23:52 Holyflare wrote:
On June 26 2018 14:59 Mocsta wrote:
Following a re-read:

(1) I was perhaps a touch OMGUS towards Regfan. I dont think this is the best place for a vote so ##Unvote

(2) i don't have a strong opinion on game state. If anything, the activity and content has been really good.
- Things like HF read fine to me.
- Rayn play so far, is highly reminiscent of the game just finished. If i had to call one player town, it would be Rayn.

(3) Things I am uncertain of with low care factor
- Conversion: purely a heuristic where after such a long self-ban. I thought he would be itching to do more than just throw some randoms hit around.
- Tictock: because whilst I liked the later posts, it is still not reminding me of the last game I played with him where I vividly remember him as this guy that is all about "accuracy" and his "own logical model". In fairness, the environment of the game state is somewhat different, so im still battling whether this is alignment indicative or not.

(4) Things I am uncertain of with moderate care factor (Calix + CopCake).
- Calix: for the reasons already expressed in the thread. Which will be easy to prove/disprove once active.
- CopCake: has some early exchanges that on a second read I took as pocketing. I need to think about this more, but is just giving me some vibes of things that I personally try to do when mafia.

(5) I still think Regfan are focused heavily on things that I don't think are important to scum hunting; and definitely are giving a different weighting to things early game than myself. But this doesn't make them mafia. I am struggling with reading the hydra pairing somewhat as I find them DRASTICALLY different. Even if they were mafia, I would rather lynch them as the second or third because of that uncertainty.


I was ready to scum read mocsta for his "redundant post" and because he scum read regfan who looked quite not scummy but then he made this post. I think the regfan reevaluation is really towny since nobody was countering his arguments and there's no need to posture that regfan could be town if mocsta was mafia.

I also didn't have a strong lean on anyone else really and most of what he says here echos what I just said a few posts ago.

Just the points he says to look into slowly started going from opposite of what I was thinking to converging to my skim through.

ugggghhhhhhhhhhh........ this is annoying.
this is probably the only post i can see mocsta making as mafia.


Why is it annoying rather than him just being town?

It is not about Mocsta, it's because i was starting to think you are town and now i don't know. Where ever does Holyflare completely discard a post where a person says "i am gonna lay off from my scumread" and then end the post with "this is still basically my top scumread"?


I mean, he doesn't. He just acknowledges that his initial points were shit and then makes the point you've been repeating that the hydra heads don't align in their thoughts. So why don't you like it?

I like it?
Why don't you?
Why do you like him saying he isn't sure but still hasn't got anything better to offer?

Once again, this isn't about Mocsta for me. You call him mafia every game regardless of his affiliation for the stuff he says that is irrational or "irrational". Why are you so agreeable now?

Wait HF can you be more specific how you perceive that specific post of Mocsta's


How can I be more specific???

Mocsta looked scummy because he gave me a get out of jail free card and scum read regfan (who I thought looked not bad).

I start to write a post while catching up about mocsta being mafia but I look at the next few posts and he had reevaluated that read and given a list post.

I read the list post and his reevaluation on regfan was good because :

Nobody was saying anything against mocsta scum reading reg
He acknowledges his points weren't the best

Then he makes a good commentary on what I pretty much think about the rest of the players in the game.

Thus I let mocsta off and wanted to see more from him before starting a shit fight and calling him mafia all over again.

I'd say light town read at a stretch.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 26 2018 15:49 GMT
#327
I'm going to gut read call calix town
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 26 2018 15:53 GMT
#330
On June 27 2018 00:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On June 27 2018 00:45 Holyflare wrote:
On June 27 2018 00:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 27 2018 00:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 27 2018 00:28 Holyflare wrote:
On June 27 2018 00:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 27 2018 00:18 Holyflare wrote:
On June 27 2018 00:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 26 2018 23:52 Holyflare wrote:
On June 26 2018 14:59 Mocsta wrote:
Following a re-read:

(1) I was perhaps a touch OMGUS towards Regfan. I dont think this is the best place for a vote so ##Unvote

(2) i don't have a strong opinion on game state. If anything, the activity and content has been really good.
- Things like HF read fine to me.
- Rayn play so far, is highly reminiscent of the game just finished. If i had to call one player town, it would be Rayn.

(3) Things I am uncertain of with low care factor
- Conversion: purely a heuristic where after such a long self-ban. I thought he would be itching to do more than just throw some randoms hit around.
- Tictock: because whilst I liked the later posts, it is still not reminding me of the last game I played with him where I vividly remember him as this guy that is all about "accuracy" and his "own logical model". In fairness, the environment of the game state is somewhat different, so im still battling whether this is alignment indicative or not.

(4) Things I am uncertain of with moderate care factor (Calix + CopCake).
- Calix: for the reasons already expressed in the thread. Which will be easy to prove/disprove once active.
- CopCake: has some early exchanges that on a second read I took as pocketing. I need to think about this more, but is just giving me some vibes of things that I personally try to do when mafia.

(5) I still think Regfan are focused heavily on things that I don't think are important to scum hunting; and definitely are giving a different weighting to things early game than myself. But this doesn't make them mafia. I am struggling with reading the hydra pairing somewhat as I find them DRASTICALLY different. Even if they were mafia, I would rather lynch them as the second or third because of that uncertainty.


I was ready to scum read mocsta for his "redundant post" and because he scum read regfan who looked quite not scummy but then he made this post. I think the regfan reevaluation is really towny since nobody was countering his arguments and there's no need to posture that regfan could be town if mocsta was mafia.

I also didn't have a strong lean on anyone else really and most of what he says here echos what I just said a few posts ago.

Just the points he says to look into slowly started going from opposite of what I was thinking to converging to my skim through.

ugggghhhhhhhhhhh........ this is annoying.
this is probably the only post i can see mocsta making as mafia.


Why is it annoying rather than him just being town?

It is not about Mocsta, it's because i was starting to think you are town and now i don't know. Where ever does Holyflare completely discard a post where a person says "i am gonna lay off from my scumread" and then end the post with "this is still basically my top scumread"?


I mean, he doesn't. He just acknowledges that his initial points were shit and then makes the point you've been repeating that the hydra heads don't align in their thoughts. So why don't you like it?

I like it?
Why don't you?
Why do you like him saying he isn't sure but still hasn't got anything better to offer?

Once again, this isn't about Mocsta for me. You call him mafia every game regardless of his affiliation for the stuff he says that is irrational or "irrational". Why are you so agreeable now?

Wait HF can you be more specific how you perceive that specific post of Mocsta's


How can I be more specific???

Mocsta looked scummy because he gave me a get out of jail free card and scum read regfan (who I thought looked not bad).

I start to write a post while catching up about mocsta being mafia but I look at the next few posts and he had reevaluated that read and given a list post.

I read the list post and his reevaluation on regfan was good because :

Nobody was saying anything against mocsta scum reading reg
He acknowledges his points weren't the best


Then he makes a good commentary on what I pretty much think about the rest of the players in the game.

Thus I let mocsta off and wanted to see more from him before starting a shit fight and calling him mafia all over again.

I'd say light town read at a stretch.

The problem is he "acknowledges his points are bad " but then calls Regfan "most likely mafia" once again for the same points.


I'm not gonna pretend like I remember what mocsta's original points were because I don't really. Have I been bamboozled?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 26 2018 17:48 GMT
#385
On June 27 2018 02:07 Conversion wrote:
I don't think either Vivax or Calix is mafia for all that's worth at this very exact moment in the game. Or if they was one, it'd be a 1/1 split. No way mafiateam Vivax and Calix randomly jump on Copcake like that.. no reward medium risk play.

Rereading rayn/reg makes me solidified in not wanting to lynch them today. Rayn is probably town, reg I get a weird feeling from filter.. like they post a lot and bring a good logical standpoint on things but can't remember anything memorable coming from it? Hence why I wanted some other inputs, but doubt regfan should ever be lynched today, I suppose.

Gun to my head, my lynch pool would be HF > Shock > Koshi, but things will change.. will dive Tictock some time later since lunch break is over


This lynch me thing is actually serious?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 26 2018 17:49 GMT
#386
On June 27 2018 02:08 Conversion wrote:
also I don't like Tictock's continuous mention of how he is unlynchable this game. rubs me the wrong way


Wait so the guy I wanted to lynch rubs you the wrong way too lol?? Why do you even scum read me?
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