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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 30 2018 22:22 GMT
#2094
Ok final thoights

Please read after my lynch

1. You are in lylo tomorrow
2. Calix rayn and copcake is still my town circle
3. I think i raised good points why calix is town. This save tt stuff calix is on about is not right. If you ignore actual and go off host count, the only way she could save tt is by evening the numbers kn a countwrwagon which is boxerfred
4. Read hf case on me once im dead and you can trust me. Its just pointing out inconsistencies and does not link scum agenda at all. Thjs is not normal for hf who cases me every game. He has taken advantage that i woukd not be around.

Hf is scum #1p
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 30 2018 22:27 GMT
#2105
Bugger wasnt meant to post
Phone slipped

Thats where im at

Hf is scum for because game has devolved since boxerfred lynch
Hf was there near eod1 when i asked for catch up and did nothing which is so uncharacteristic for him

Im suspecting shockee is scum ehich is why hf created boxer xounter. He was prob never jntending to stay on it but the opportunity fell his way nrcause of me.

This cleara conversiin who is the inky person i am ok with to gote me.

I mean all game hf has been hesitant to call me mafia. Nkw im afk and strikes.


So hf / shockee and i wont bother #3 as slendy hasnt posted.


Guys good luck
Im disappointed i xouldnt stick to bow i played thr furst 24hrs. I never caught up from eod2 and should have stopped posting. Sorry. In some ways i derserve the mislynch.

Vote hf or shockee next pls.

Gonna enjoy time with the kids now. Bye
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 30 2018 22:29 GMT
#2108
On July 01 2018 07:24 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2018 07:22 Mocsta wrote:
Ok final thoights

Please read after my lynch

1. You are in lylo tomorrow
2. Calix rayn and copcake is still my town circle
3. I think i raised good points why calix is town. This save tt stuff calix is on about is not right. If you ignore actual and go off host count, the only way she could save tt is by evening the numbers kn a countwrwagon which is boxerfred
4. Read hf case on me once im dead and you can trust me. Its just pointing out inconsistencies and does not link scum agenda at all. Thjs is not normal for hf who cases me every game. He has taken advantage that i woukd not be around.

Hf is scum #1p



I also think there's a massive disconnect between your point 2 and 3. Why are you saying Calix is your town circle but then shitting all over her points about saving TT?

i meant copcake

Thanks for clarifixationl
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 30 2018 22:30 GMT
#2110
On June 30 2018 20:57 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 01:54 Calix wrote:
On June 28 2018 00:44 CopCake wrote:
Before I forget because I am going to work

Ticktok’s suddenly change of heart on calix was pretty strange. Like if he knew from the beggining Calix was like a “Super God” playing mafia why didnt he say thay since the beggining? It would give me another background. I also didnt like his smooth talk of “appeal to emotion” towards wanting me to change my vote.


I'm not a god-tier mafia player though, lol. I don't know how TT has that impression of me.

I don't want to lynch TT and don't like how that might become an alternative to myself + Show Spoiler +
(this is based on my impressions of the thread: I actually have no idea who is the lynch right now)
when there aren't any compelling reasons to kill him from what I remember. What I mean is that I've seen a lot of anti-TT posts but I can't actually remember many of them and the ones I can remember weren't convincing.

If one of the people scum-reading him wants to explain why he's mafia or make an actual case instead of unremarkable one-liners then I'll try hearing you out. But right now, no way.
IMPORTANT post

I think this stems as the core of the whole tt/calix team

But with tt town. Read this post carefully

I have read calix d1 filter carefully and her position is ABSOLUTELY consistent and predictable.

calix. Welcome to my town circle
pls dont forget about this
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 30 2018 22:34 GMT
#2114
On July 01 2018 07:32 Holyflare wrote:
Why did you vote me today after you called me town Mocsta?
i could say the same to you

My preference was koshi
Now its you.

Anyways thats my final post

Good luck town
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 30 2018 22:37 GMT
#2116
On July 01 2018 07:32 Holyflare wrote:
What did you expect me to do after that? Are my points on you wrong?

Lol teasing me for 1 more

I didnt read it constructively because its wrong by default

But it was pointing out 10 or so posts with public inconsistrncies.

Guess what. Thats what im known for as town. I need to talk to people to establish my reads. And when no one talks back to me the outcomr is paranoia and lack of firm ground.

I see no point arguing this 30min before lynch because ppl seem to think scum play this style when its simply way too hard to have the confidence tk do that all game.

I made it clear i wouldnt be around before lynch so had to sheep.
You alk get the luxury ro debate 6hrs befoee tk reach consensus.

Itsna clear disadvantage as any allignmrnt.

Anyways.

Peace out

All please read my fjnal posts after flip.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 30 2018 22:54 GMT
#2123
On July 01 2018 07:30 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2018 20:57 Mocsta wrote:
On June 28 2018 01:54 Calix wrote:
On June 28 2018 00:44 CopCake wrote:
Before I forget because I am going to work

Ticktok’s suddenly change of heart on calix was pretty strange. Like if he knew from the beggining Calix was like a “Super God” playing mafia why didnt he say thay since the beggining? It would give me another background. I also didnt like his smooth talk of “appeal to emotion” towards wanting me to change my vote.


I'm not a god-tier mafia player though, lol. I don't know how TT has that impression of me.

I don't want to lynch TT and don't like how that might become an alternative to myself + Show Spoiler +
(this is based on my impressions of the thread: I actually have no idea who is the lynch right now)
when there aren't any compelling reasons to kill him from what I remember. What I mean is that I've seen a lot of anti-TT posts but I can't actually remember many of them and the ones I can remember weren't convincing.

If one of the people scum-reading him wants to explain why he's mafia or make an actual case instead of unremarkable one-liners then I'll try hearing you out. But right now, no way.
IMPORTANT post

I think this stems as the core of the whole tt/calix team

But with tt town. Read this post carefully

I have read calix d1 filter carefully and her position is ABSOLUTELY consistent and predictable.

calix. Welcome to my town circle
pls dont forget about this
dont forget
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 30 2018 22:55 GMT
#2124
On July 01 2018 07:27 Mocsta wrote:
Bugger wasnt meant to post
Phone slipped

Thats where im at

Hf is scum for because game has devolved since boxerfred lynch
Hf was there near eod1 when i asked for catch up and did nothing which is so uncharacteristic for him

Im suspecting shockee is scum ehich is why hf created boxer xounter. He was prob never jntending to stay on it but the opportunity fell his way nrcause of me.

This cleara conversiin who is the inky person i am ok with to gote me.

I mean all game hf has been hesitant to call me mafia. Nkw im afk and strikes.


So hf / shockee and i wont bother #3 as slendy hasnt posted.


Guys good luck
Im disappointed i xouldnt stick to bow i played thr furst 24hrs. I never caught up from eod2 and should have stopped posting. Sorry. In some ways i derserve the mislynch.

Vote hf or shockee next pls.

Gonna enjoy time with the kids now. Bye
dont forget

And dont forget about koshi

Now byebye
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 30 2018 23:03 GMT
#2134
Im town
Drop the suspense
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
July 01 2018 23:00 GMT
#2325
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
July 03 2018 22:55 GMT
#2662
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
July 03 2018 23:32 GMT
#2703
wow... i think this game was a great learning lesson.

im still shocked by the outcome.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
July 03 2018 23:34 GMT
#2708
On July 04 2018 08:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2018 08:29 Vivax wrote:
On July 04 2018 08:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Slendy you have zero respect in mafia from now on.


Why? He played like I would play if everyone didn't know my meta

No, these fucking no-shows should be modkilled on D1. It ruins the game.
nah, he played within what town allowed.

boxerfred was 100% town lynch, and the surivors all copped shit for it.

town needs to be stricter instead of say modkill when playerpool available is already barely enough for a 13p

liek. you started off really well and as soon as you medic claimed progressively played less and less but with more and more tunnel. I unashamedly called you scum in the obs qt for it.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
July 03 2018 23:37 GMT
#2712
On July 04 2018 08:35 Tictock wrote:
Personally I thought it was clear why I modkilled myself.

I realized I could never be as good as Rayn.

I don’t think I could ever be so totally wrong for an entire game and then shit on everyone else when I find out I am wrong. Clearly that is a level of skill not meant for meat mortals to compete with.

Sadly I will just have to live with that as I was serious about never playing here again.

And just in case there is any confusion, I am not tying to take any moral high ground here. My actions were completely shitty and against any spirit of the game. But what is the point in playing with people who have no interest in anything that challenges their own viewpoint and just shit on or ignore anything they disagree with? And I am not talking about any one person anymore.

Now I will stop posting as I have a fair idea what sort of reactions this post will get and I don’t really want to shitfight with anyone.

Sorry to see you go, please take me with you!!

But yes, no point playing if you aren't getting anything out of it. Good luck with what you choose to do next.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
July 03 2018 23:39 GMT
#2714
On June 28 2018 11:10 Mocsta wrote:
You guys should take a break, breathe deep and read the content before firing.

CopCake is saying I am super bad.. not yo Calix.

No need to wring each others necks. I think we are all town here.
Please remember

*i want to cry now*
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
July 03 2018 23:39 GMT
#2716
On July 04 2018 08:38 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I'm just happy i made it all the way to endgame lmao, how was my general level of play based on the mafia QT as well? I think I was reading the town and their actions decently.
My personal opinion is that if Rayn didnt stick up for you on D1 you would have been lynched.

The rest then doesn't matter.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
July 03 2018 23:41 GMT
#2719
Shock.. since you asked for feedback:

Very mafia first post

shock
06-26-2018
09:57 AM ET (US)
i got completely ignored on my opening post. They're really at each others necks right now.Edited 06-26-2018 09:57 AM
4
shock
06-26-2018
08:56 AM ET (US)
seems like were already doing well... none of us have posted, and theyre up to their necks already lmao

On June 27 2018 20:32 Mocsta wrote:
##Unvote

I dunno if Calix is town, but I trust Regfan enough to relinquish my read.

I would vote between Shockeyy and Koshi equally if Calix wont be wagon'd.

Shockeyy cos that post shitting on town for being down each others throats is such a mafia style intro post.
Koshi for reasons I mentioned prior.

Will decide when i wake up. ciao.

Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
July 03 2018 23:44 GMT
#2723
On July 04 2018 08:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2018 08:34 Mocsta wrote:
On July 04 2018 08:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 04 2018 08:29 Vivax wrote:
On July 04 2018 08:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Slendy you have zero respect in mafia from now on.


Why? He played like I would play if everyone didn't know my meta

No, these fucking no-shows should be modkilled on D1. It ruins the game.
nah, he played within what town allowed.

boxerfred was 100% town lynch, and the surivors all copped shit for it.

town needs to be stricter instead of say modkill when playerpool available is already barely enough for a 13p

liek. you started off really well and as soon as you medic claimed progressively played less and less but with more and more tunnel. I unashamedly called you scum in the obs qt for it.

No Mocsta, hte people who do not play should be removed from the game by hosts. It is simply just unfun to other people when someone does not play. I asked Kelsier, and after this permission i sent two messages to Slendy throughout the game to remind him the game is on. Like if you can't play, or don't want to play, then ask to be replaced. He didn't vote D1, he didn't vote on D2, i don't think he even posted anything during those days other than something on N1. It is fucking disrespectful towards the game, i could understand a day phase, yes, but not like a WEEK.

I am not even gonna go into TT and Regfan, just hand like 5 game bans or something. Well i don't care because Regfan is not gonna play here anymore and i am never going to go into a game with TT so whatever, maybe just pat TT on back like the thing here is nowadays. Don't care.

I am just putting people who ruin the game on my black list, not that i even wanna think about playing a agame of mafia right now because this one was so fucking horrible on all fronts, including myself.
Yes, I agree (and forgot) that Slendy should have MK after D2 no vote.

D3 play was within acceptable limits (defined by town) given we was alive though.
Even moreso because of the parity cop claim. like even though town was certain calix was scum, they had a duty and due dilligence to investigate the viability of the claim.

I cant recall this occuring by anyone.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
July 03 2018 23:48 GMT
#2724
On July 04 2018 08:43 KelsierSC wrote:
I'd like to say a few things about the game. Firstly I want to apologise for the general standard of moderation. It was my first time running a game and to put it mildly things did not go smoothly.

My primary aim was to keep people having fun and playing the game, more recently games have been a lot quieter, people are busier in general and I wanted to follow the same concept as Calix so I wouldn't have to modkill anyone (hopefully). However the game didn't play out that way.

In hindsight I should have absolutely modkilled TheSlenderMan after D2. The way he played would have been unacceptable in 99% of games on this site. My own inexperience and indecisiveness was at fault here. Not modkilling him definitely angered people and sapped any motivation from the town.

Going forward if I host another game I would have stricter activity rules not use the self voting system that I used in this game, it is too easily abused. Thank you all who stayed with the game for not modkilling yourselves and putting in a tremendous amount of effort for the first few days.

I hope going forward that you play in my games (and other mafia games on TL) and I will try to do better by you all


I will play in ya games, we all gotta start somewhere

Thanks and much appreciated.

For me, the only grievance i had was the vote counting to be honest.
Its really hard to make decisions when the vote count has errors in it and updated infrequently.

The MK thing is neither here or there, every game has a problem that ppl get pissed about.
I mean, in the newbie eariler this yaer. Koshi replced in on D3 lol
Ppl will get over it. vote counts are permanent!!

Thanks again and pleae dont be discouraged.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
July 04 2018 00:18 GMT
#2734
On July 04 2018 09:04 Regfan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 01:50 Regfan wrote:
I'm going to bed. Regfan will hopefully be up before deadline to check in quickly and move our vote if it needs moving. Please don't lynch Calix.

Just quickly, the main thing I mentioned to Regfan re: TT when he asked me to sell him on that scumread was the way that his scumreads progressed, his worlds started to become noticeably incongruent around the time he started backing off Calix. I also don't really like the way he's been catching up recently, making more personal type appeal posts to people that don't actually have anything to do with his reads or solving the game. He's probably my strongest scumread even if I don't want to lynch him today (for reasons I already went over). Would really like to see more from him and be able to interact with him real-time some to solidify my read there.

We both think the way Vivax treated TT in #539 was slimy, he's the kind of player that I know I will be able to get a solid read on at some point in the game based on some reaction from him or something impulsive he does in the moment somewhere, and there are certain things from him tonally that make me shy away from super scumreading him, but he hasn't done anything to make me really want to pull him out of the lynch pool today. I only weakly scumread him and feel meh about lynching him but he's not a bad lynch.

Shock's thread entrance was really icky and I dislike the things that he has been focusing on. I don't think his meta self-defense means anything for his alignment and I don't really like the way he's been making big-ish posts at the end of the dayphase here but not really interacting with anyone about reads or show me that he's actively solving the game in a meaningful way. Feel mildly annoyed that people don't want to lynch him but I don't feel strongly enough about killing him to force the issue.

Koshi just hasn't done anything except sheep rayn and when I think there's a pretty high chance of at least 1 mafia in the inactives I can find exactly 0 reasons not to lynch him other than how little information it will give us.

Lynch preference is Shock>Koshi>Vivax, would vote in Conversion/TT to secure a lynch that isn't Calix.

-G

Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 08:38 Regfan wrote:
HF, Cake, Rayn, Moscta and Calix are still all town, if you fuckwits can learn to come and work together this games still winnable.

Hunt inside Vivax, Shockey, TT, GSM, Conversion and Koshi.

TT did vote to save himself and at :59, timing that makes more sense for mafia to do it where there's minimal time for people to react to the vote and 5he way the EOD played out there's some worlds that he fits inside of as mafia, Vivax-TT is 100% a world people need to entertain and look inside of tomorrow.

There's probably only ever 1 in Shockey/Vivax which is why Shockeys flip would have helped immensely but if you hit scum in these two would suggest moving the other to the side for a bit.

Vivax / TT + 1 of Koshi/TSM sort of fits a few things.

Okay you've got my thoughts albeit I've missed a lot of content from pages 30 to 50, now can feel better about leaving and never coming back to this game again.

Oh and everyone that actually voted Boxer can go fuck themselves.

Outtahere

-R



Mocsta, please please please please please please leave this site and never ever come back. I'm begging you, for your own good. Please don't stay and "learn" from these people.
Hi,

I am interested in playing with a different culture of people; however, you shouldnt discount TL mafia as each site has their pros/cons. I think i general TL mafia relies too much on T-minus 6hours from lynch to determine wagons which is mafia-aligned in my opinion.

But that aside, I am a true believer we all can "learn" from our own mislynches, and people that we mislynch.

This game showed no remorse for mislynches, which is a shame. However, that is partly because it devolved into 'lord of the flies' which is a human nature thing and can apply to any site if the right ingredients occur.

I actually think this is a fascinating game that has potential to be stickied. Mafia did great and I will nominate them for an award. It truly takes a lot of self-control to post the bare minimum; especially because that small quantity of post has potential to be heavily scrutinised.



Its a shame you got MK out, because I think the game would have gone a different route if you were here.
I look forward to play with you elsewhere in the future though!
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