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Also on the Conversion, I meant to say that Cilax was also grooming Conversion like she did with Vivax as her "town" read.
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On July 01 2018 05:02 ShoCkeyy wrote:A few posts from Vivax, that caught my attention: Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 07:59 Vivax wrote:On June 28 2018 07:58 Conversion wrote:
alright Calix I'll listen to you Scummy post. Listen to her for switching to bf but not to shockey? Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 08:00 Vivax wrote:
Well awesome JUST when you made everyone switch off shockey cause you didn't want to, you switch to him all of a sudden. Way of being dumpster. If you notice Vivax attention goes towards Conversion here about Cilax. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/534607-chill-hop-mafia?page=27#530Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 21:43 ShoCkeyy wrote:I think Vivax is town, after reading convos between Tictock and Calix... Who btw barely even talk to each other in the thread other than "I didn't like your case against Cake".It stars with Calix here: On June 26 2018 08:06 Calix wrote:On June 26 2018 08:05 Tictock wrote:
Well nothing to do but pretend like I am working and play this instead.
What up peeps Sup, long time no see. Fancy randomly bandwagoning some AFK person for the lulz? What I've found in past games is that afkers are usually town, and away, since they don't have a huge role in the game, they tend to just sit back, watch, and post when needed. And also honestly, I've notice way more mafia trying to lynch into afk towns, than anything. I would understand the afkers too because I thought the game was starting Tuesday. Not Monday night, so I had to play a large catch up as part of it. here Calix still trying to put blame on afker's, low post count trying to lynch them off, or Vivax, who is starting to look more town after each post because of the interactions between Tictock and Calix. On June 27 2018 20:15 Calix wrote:
I'm as good as rayn and HF? Since when? lmao
Anyway I've skimmed the thread. I'm making the executive decision to largely ignore the TWO (!!!) giant cases against me since I'll be working for most of the day and putting me on the defense near EOD is a really bad idea. I'll be around for EOD though so I can do some filter-diving and give reads then ^^
Also Regfan goes up a notch for being sensible, looking into things and discouraging that dumb fight or whatever you'd call it between Tictock and Mocsta (while Mocsta's case was pretty bad, it's not mafia-terrible, I don't think).
Regfan also realises that, in a game where about 1/3 of the players aren't actually playing, lynching someone who is playing on D1 is suboptimal.
Yes, yes, this argument is really self-serving but it's not wrong so you should probably just do it.
In a normal game, this would be the part where I tell you who the best lynch is but I would be lying if I said I had any preference. Sure, I can analyse Koshi/ ShoCkeyy/ Vivax or whine about how terrible it is that two players haven't posted yet. But I don't think it's possible to accurately assess players with such low post counts so I don't see the point of wasting time by pretending to do so. I could lynch literally any of them right now and my thoughts are probably not changing until they actually start doing stuff. Then tictock's reasoning of not "voting for Cilax" On June 27 2018 14:00 Tictock wrote:
I think I am also just pretty against lynching Calix today.
I still a bit of sus on her, but her play as the day has gone on has left me feeling like their is a solid chance she could be town here still.
Even if I was still toying with the idea of Calix being in my working Mafia team (which is purely just to keep my imagination going, I don't actually think I have a good chance at pinging the entire team D1), I would probably advocate against her lynch today as she is a bad player to lynch D1.
Honestly I really want to push town to do the smart thing for once D1 and kill off someone like Shokey or Koshi. Boxer deserves something worse than a lynch for signing up with an exclamation right before the game starts then not posting for most of D1 (assuming he does post and nothing truly terrible happened to him).
I also think Vivax is probably a fine lynch, and want more people to relook at Mocsta again since he's fresh on my mind now. Possibly lynching off a teammate d1 won't work for him, so yea let's go for the afkers or Vivax the well known town... My post is #530, Cilax claims "vivax" is town almost 600 posts later here. I was on Cilax trail all day yesterday, but was being blinded by watching. After filter diving once again, and re-reading most of the thread, I noticed these little tid bits. What I seem to recall re-reading the end of Day 1 was that Calix was trying to groom Vivax into lynching me, having him focus on my filter, and have my name in his filter end of D1 while Cilax looks like town cilax to Vivax. This is Cilax way after I town read Vivax. Then all the sudden Vivax dies D1. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/534607-chill-hop-mafia?page=57#1126Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 08:38 Calix wrote:
I don't want Vivax dead because I think he's turning into a beautiful butterfly.
And if you look past his posting style, his content's been alright. One other thing I notice was she did almost the same thing towards TT. Who in the end mod killed himself because he had so much pressure from town, if it wasn't for Cilax KNOWING TT was town. Show nested quote +On June 29 2018 00:00 Calix wrote:On June 28 2018 23:56 CopCake wrote:
Tbf it is the first time I see someone to put A LOT of effort for someone that is not 100% confirmed. I defend my town-reads a lot when I am town. In my first game on this site, TT and I were both town. TT was the D1 lynch and I went out of my way to save him. But I failed. Then people called me mafia for "white-knighting TT". Think that was Haunted Mafia 3 or something. I also hard-defended Tumblewood against accusations in one of BTDT's Generic Mafia games. Just two examples off the top of my head. But how would she know TT is town? unless Cilax is mafia, she would know exactly who is town. Also you can see, she's the first to try and get a bus going, just check her filter, she's all over the place. And continues, even with Vivax at one point. I feel like the Vivax night kill was meant to try and frame me based on his late d1 filter. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/534607-chill-hop-mafia?page=19#379Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 02:28 Calix wrote:On June 27 2018 02:19 CopCake wrote:
Calix, who are your mafia reads and who are your toen reads and why?
I need two on each category. I don't have anything insightful with mafia reads. My current thinking is "the active people seem townie so there's probably more mafia in the inactive section" but I also don't know how to sort between boxerfred/ Koshi/ SlenderMan/ Vivax/ ShoCkeyy. I guess Koshi and Vivax and ShoCkeyy because they've posted and their posts are pretty underwhelming and accomplish even less shit than I have? And Vivax might be trying to pocket/ white-knight me since I'm looking like a likely mislynch right now. I realise I'm still voting for you so lemme change that: ##Vote: Vivax. I think Mocsta is town because he seems to be posting off-the-cuff and doesn't seem to have preformed conclusions and is flexible with his reads. His style is different from his last game too. Conversion's town because he seems to be having fun while still contributing when he wants. Tictock's probably town. I haven't actually opened his filter though. I'm just being cocky and assuming he'll fuck up really bad at some point if he's scum so I'm not worried about him. So what's next? A few people seem to be on Cilax side, a few people seem to not. I want to push Cilax, but that depends on how many votes I can get. If I'm needed to lynch some one else, it'll be HF based on this post alone. Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 08:00 Holyflare wrote:
Lo and behold mafia conversion saves mafi bf. Thoughts?
Why the fuck would you lynch me based off of this?
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The only scum team I make sense in is if you are mafia shockeyy.
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You have just committed to a mafia claim in my eyes.
That post was absolutely terrible.
Your reads HAVEN’T changed at all! You’ve just found NK WIFOM to fling at me
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Is everyone just blind to good cases or something? Not one of you have even acknowledged this mocsta post.
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Where does mocsta get ANY of his scum reads from???
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If you can look in the post I made and tell me how he goes to me being town to voting me with copcake I will vote myself out of this game.
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On July 01 2018 05:08 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2018 05:02 ShoCkeyy wrote:A few posts from Vivax, that caught my attention: On June 28 2018 07:59 Vivax wrote:On June 28 2018 07:58 Conversion wrote:
alright Calix I'll listen to you Scummy post. Listen to her for switching to bf but not to shockey? On June 28 2018 08:00 Vivax wrote:
Well awesome JUST when you made everyone switch off shockey cause you didn't want to, you switch to him all of a sudden. Way of being dumpster. If you notice Vivax attention goes towards Conversion here about Cilax. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/534607-chill-hop-mafia?page=27#530On June 27 2018 21:43 ShoCkeyy wrote:I think Vivax is town, after reading convos between Tictock and Calix... Who btw barely even talk to each other in the thread other than "I didn't like your case against Cake".It stars with Calix here: On June 26 2018 08:06 Calix wrote:On June 26 2018 08:05 Tictock wrote:
Well nothing to do but pretend like I am working and play this instead.
What up peeps Sup, long time no see. Fancy randomly bandwagoning some AFK person for the lulz? What I've found in past games is that afkers are usually town, and away, since they don't have a huge role in the game, they tend to just sit back, watch, and post when needed. And also honestly, I've notice way more mafia trying to lynch into afk towns, than anything. I would understand the afkers too because I thought the game was starting Tuesday. Not Monday night, so I had to play a large catch up as part of it. here Calix still trying to put blame on afker's, low post count trying to lynch them off, or Vivax, who is starting to look more town after each post because of the interactions between Tictock and Calix. On June 27 2018 20:15 Calix wrote:
I'm as good as rayn and HF? Since when? lmao
Anyway I've skimmed the thread. I'm making the executive decision to largely ignore the TWO (!!!) giant cases against me since I'll be working for most of the day and putting me on the defense near EOD is a really bad idea. I'll be around for EOD though so I can do some filter-diving and give reads then ^^
Also Regfan goes up a notch for being sensible, looking into things and discouraging that dumb fight or whatever you'd call it between Tictock and Mocsta (while Mocsta's case was pretty bad, it's not mafia-terrible, I don't think).
Regfan also realises that, in a game where about 1/3 of the players aren't actually playing, lynching someone who is playing on D1 is suboptimal.
Yes, yes, this argument is really self-serving but it's not wrong so you should probably just do it.
In a normal game, this would be the part where I tell you who the best lynch is but I would be lying if I said I had any preference. Sure, I can analyse Koshi/ ShoCkeyy/ Vivax or whine about how terrible it is that two players haven't posted yet. But I don't think it's possible to accurately assess players with such low post counts so I don't see the point of wasting time by pretending to do so. I could lynch literally any of them right now and my thoughts are probably not changing until they actually start doing stuff. Then tictock's reasoning of not "voting for Cilax" On June 27 2018 14:00 Tictock wrote:
I think I am also just pretty against lynching Calix today.
I still a bit of sus on her, but her play as the day has gone on has left me feeling like their is a solid chance she could be town here still.
Even if I was still toying with the idea of Calix being in my working Mafia team (which is purely just to keep my imagination going, I don't actually think I have a good chance at pinging the entire team D1), I would probably advocate against her lynch today as she is a bad player to lynch D1.
Honestly I really want to push town to do the smart thing for once D1 and kill off someone like Shokey or Koshi. Boxer deserves something worse than a lynch for signing up with an exclamation right before the game starts then not posting for most of D1 (assuming he does post and nothing truly terrible happened to him).
I also think Vivax is probably a fine lynch, and want more people to relook at Mocsta again since he's fresh on my mind now. Possibly lynching off a teammate d1 won't work for him, so yea let's go for the afkers or Vivax the well known town... My post is #530, Cilax claims "vivax" is town almost 600 posts later here. I was on Cilax trail all day yesterday, but was being blinded by watching. After filter diving once again, and re-reading most of the thread, I noticed these little tid bits. What I seem to recall re-reading the end of Day 1 was that Calix was trying to groom Vivax into lynching me, having him focus on my filter, and have my name in his filter end of D1 while Cilax looks like town cilax to Vivax. This is Cilax way after I town read Vivax. Then all the sudden Vivax dies D1. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/534607-chill-hop-mafia?page=57#1126On June 28 2018 08:38 Calix wrote:
I don't want Vivax dead because I think he's turning into a beautiful butterfly.
And if you look past his posting style, his content's been alright. One other thing I notice was she did almost the same thing towards TT. Who in the end mod killed himself because he had so much pressure from town, if it wasn't for Cilax KNOWING TT was town. On June 29 2018 00:00 Calix wrote:On June 28 2018 23:56 CopCake wrote:
Tbf it is the first time I see someone to put A LOT of effort for someone that is not 100% confirmed. I defend my town-reads a lot when I am town. In my first game on this site, TT and I were both town. TT was the D1 lynch and I went out of my way to save him. But I failed. Then people called me mafia for "white-knighting TT". Think that was Haunted Mafia 3 or something. I also hard-defended Tumblewood against accusations in one of BTDT's Generic Mafia games. Just two examples off the top of my head. But how would she know TT is town? unless Cilax is mafia, she would know exactly who is town. Also you can see, she's the first to try and get a bus going, just check her filter, she's all over the place. And continues, even with Vivax at one point. I feel like the Vivax night kill was meant to try and frame me based on his late d1 filter. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/534607-chill-hop-mafia?page=19#379On June 27 2018 02:28 Calix wrote:On June 27 2018 02:19 CopCake wrote:
Calix, who are your mafia reads and who are your toen reads and why?
I need two on each category. I don't have anything insightful with mafia reads. My current thinking is "the active people seem townie so there's probably more mafia in the inactive section" but I also don't know how to sort between boxerfred/ Koshi/ SlenderMan/ Vivax/ ShoCkeyy. I guess Koshi and Vivax and ShoCkeyy because they've posted and their posts are pretty underwhelming and accomplish even less shit than I have? And Vivax might be trying to pocket/ white-knight me since I'm looking like a likely mislynch right now. I realise I'm still voting for you so lemme change that: ##Vote: Vivax. I think Mocsta is town because he seems to be posting off-the-cuff and doesn't seem to have preformed conclusions and is flexible with his reads. His style is different from his last game too. Conversion's town because he seems to be having fun while still contributing when he wants. Tictock's probably town. I haven't actually opened his filter though. I'm just being cocky and assuming he'll fuck up really bad at some point if he's scum so I'm not worried about him. So what's next? A few people seem to be on Cilax side, a few people seem to not. I want to push Cilax, but that depends on how many votes I can get. If I'm needed to lynch some one else, it'll be HF based on this post alone. On June 28 2018 08:00 Holyflare wrote:
Lo and behold mafia conversion saves mafi bf. Thoughts? Why the fuck would you lynch me based off of this?
Because why would you claim conversion is mafia, or bf is mafia other than you already know their roles....
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I think they took advantage of the "if you don't vote, the vote will be on you" thing.
I mean, it could be 3 town on the lynch pool with TT, Shockey and Boxerfred.
It doesn't matter who dies, it would look as if they tried to protect town (TT) and that would explain the shockey push they had but it didnt work.
But that world only works if Mostca is mafia.
I think there is somewhere that he called you mafia or just voted you because people ignored him, and over all people, he picked Shockey.
I think mafia's intention was to kill you or misslynch you but not everyone read you mafia or at least two very vocal didnt (Rayn and me) and if you died and flipped town, that would clear us eventually really fast because the reason was that "you had shitty posts" for them to lynch you. No context at all.
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On July 01 2018 05:12 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2018 05:08 Holyflare wrote:On July 01 2018 05:02 ShoCkeyy wrote:A few posts from Vivax, that caught my attention: On June 28 2018 07:59 Vivax wrote:On June 28 2018 07:58 Conversion wrote:
alright Calix I'll listen to you Scummy post. Listen to her for switching to bf but not to shockey? On June 28 2018 08:00 Vivax wrote:
Well awesome JUST when you made everyone switch off shockey cause you didn't want to, you switch to him all of a sudden. Way of being dumpster. If you notice Vivax attention goes towards Conversion here about Cilax. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/534607-chill-hop-mafia?page=27#530On June 27 2018 21:43 ShoCkeyy wrote:I think Vivax is town, after reading convos between Tictock and Calix... Who btw barely even talk to each other in the thread other than "I didn't like your case against Cake".It stars with Calix here: On June 26 2018 08:06 Calix wrote:On June 26 2018 08:05 Tictock wrote:
Well nothing to do but pretend like I am working and play this instead.
What up peeps Sup, long time no see. Fancy randomly bandwagoning some AFK person for the lulz? What I've found in past games is that afkers are usually town, and away, since they don't have a huge role in the game, they tend to just sit back, watch, and post when needed. And also honestly, I've notice way more mafia trying to lynch into afk towns, than anything. I would understand the afkers too because I thought the game was starting Tuesday. Not Monday night, so I had to play a large catch up as part of it. here Calix still trying to put blame on afker's, low post count trying to lynch them off, or Vivax, who is starting to look more town after each post because of the interactions between Tictock and Calix. On June 27 2018 20:15 Calix wrote:
I'm as good as rayn and HF? Since when? lmao
Anyway I've skimmed the thread. I'm making the executive decision to largely ignore the TWO (!!!) giant cases against me since I'll be working for most of the day and putting me on the defense near EOD is a really bad idea. I'll be around for EOD though so I can do some filter-diving and give reads then ^^
Also Regfan goes up a notch for being sensible, looking into things and discouraging that dumb fight or whatever you'd call it between Tictock and Mocsta (while Mocsta's case was pretty bad, it's not mafia-terrible, I don't think).
Regfan also realises that, in a game where about 1/3 of the players aren't actually playing, lynching someone who is playing on D1 is suboptimal.
Yes, yes, this argument is really self-serving but it's not wrong so you should probably just do it.
In a normal game, this would be the part where I tell you who the best lynch is but I would be lying if I said I had any preference. Sure, I can analyse Koshi/ ShoCkeyy/ Vivax or whine about how terrible it is that two players haven't posted yet. But I don't think it's possible to accurately assess players with such low post counts so I don't see the point of wasting time by pretending to do so. I could lynch literally any of them right now and my thoughts are probably not changing until they actually start doing stuff. Then tictock's reasoning of not "voting for Cilax" On June 27 2018 14:00 Tictock wrote:
I think I am also just pretty against lynching Calix today.
I still a bit of sus on her, but her play as the day has gone on has left me feeling like their is a solid chance she could be town here still.
Even if I was still toying with the idea of Calix being in my working Mafia team (which is purely just to keep my imagination going, I don't actually think I have a good chance at pinging the entire team D1), I would probably advocate against her lynch today as she is a bad player to lynch D1.
Honestly I really want to push town to do the smart thing for once D1 and kill off someone like Shokey or Koshi. Boxer deserves something worse than a lynch for signing up with an exclamation right before the game starts then not posting for most of D1 (assuming he does post and nothing truly terrible happened to him).
I also think Vivax is probably a fine lynch, and want more people to relook at Mocsta again since he's fresh on my mind now. Possibly lynching off a teammate d1 won't work for him, so yea let's go for the afkers or Vivax the well known town... My post is #530, Cilax claims "vivax" is town almost 600 posts later here. I was on Cilax trail all day yesterday, but was being blinded by watching. After filter diving once again, and re-reading most of the thread, I noticed these little tid bits. What I seem to recall re-reading the end of Day 1 was that Calix was trying to groom Vivax into lynching me, having him focus on my filter, and have my name in his filter end of D1 while Cilax looks like town cilax to Vivax. This is Cilax way after I town read Vivax. Then all the sudden Vivax dies D1. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/534607-chill-hop-mafia?page=57#1126On June 28 2018 08:38 Calix wrote:
I don't want Vivax dead because I think he's turning into a beautiful butterfly.
And if you look past his posting style, his content's been alright. One other thing I notice was she did almost the same thing towards TT. Who in the end mod killed himself because he had so much pressure from town, if it wasn't for Cilax KNOWING TT was town. On June 29 2018 00:00 Calix wrote:On June 28 2018 23:56 CopCake wrote:
Tbf it is the first time I see someone to put A LOT of effort for someone that is not 100% confirmed. I defend my town-reads a lot when I am town. In my first game on this site, TT and I were both town. TT was the D1 lynch and I went out of my way to save him. But I failed. Then people called me mafia for "white-knighting TT". Think that was Haunted Mafia 3 or something. I also hard-defended Tumblewood against accusations in one of BTDT's Generic Mafia games. Just two examples off the top of my head. But how would she know TT is town? unless Cilax is mafia, she would know exactly who is town. Also you can see, she's the first to try and get a bus going, just check her filter, she's all over the place. And continues, even with Vivax at one point. I feel like the Vivax night kill was meant to try and frame me based on his late d1 filter. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/534607-chill-hop-mafia?page=19#379On June 27 2018 02:28 Calix wrote:On June 27 2018 02:19 CopCake wrote:
Calix, who are your mafia reads and who are your toen reads and why?
I need two on each category. I don't have anything insightful with mafia reads. My current thinking is "the active people seem townie so there's probably more mafia in the inactive section" but I also don't know how to sort between boxerfred/ Koshi/ SlenderMan/ Vivax/ ShoCkeyy. I guess Koshi and Vivax and ShoCkeyy because they've posted and their posts are pretty underwhelming and accomplish even less shit than I have? And Vivax might be trying to pocket/ white-knight me since I'm looking like a likely mislynch right now. I realise I'm still voting for you so lemme change that: ##Vote: Vivax. I think Mocsta is town because he seems to be posting off-the-cuff and doesn't seem to have preformed conclusions and is flexible with his reads. His style is different from his last game too. Conversion's town because he seems to be having fun while still contributing when he wants. Tictock's probably town. I haven't actually opened his filter though. I'm just being cocky and assuming he'll fuck up really bad at some point if he's scum so I'm not worried about him. So what's next? A few people seem to be on Cilax side, a few people seem to not. I want to push Cilax, but that depends on how many votes I can get. If I'm needed to lynch some one else, it'll be HF based on this post alone. On June 28 2018 08:00 Holyflare wrote:
Lo and behold mafia conversion saves mafi bf. Thoughts? Why the fuck would you lynch me based off of this? Because why would you claim conversion is mafia, or bf is mafia other than you already know their roles....
Oh, I don't know, probably because conversion has said the bf wagon is shit and tt is mafia about 8 times but then miraculously voted you at deadline to save bf instead of getting people to vote ticktock his mafia read????
I genuinely thought you were the lynch.
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On July 01 2018 05:10 Calix wrote:
You have just committed to a mafia claim in my eyes.
That post was absolutely terrible.
Your reads HAVEN’T changed at all! You’ve just found NK WIFOM to fling at me
How was it terrible? Because I caught you? Of course you would try to claim it's bad. You said my reads haven't changed, but I added HF and conversion into my reads which I've never done before, but you wouldn't know because you only can claim that I'm "mafia"...
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On July 01 2018 05:10 Holyflare wrote:
Is everyone just blind to good cases or something? Not one of you have even acknowledged this mocsta post.
I read it but not properly. It was not bad at first glance. His vote on you is not what you’d expect and it’s weird for him to sheep CopCake.
Still think ShoCkeyy is better tho.
Do you disagree?
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The only reason for you to think calix was mafia after the votes last night was if tt was mafia. She effectively saved you to save tt by voting a lynch that would make her look really bad. Why would she do that if you are town shockeyy?
Why would I not vote you myself if I am mafia with calix and tt is town? Why do I not vote tt or you and get free modkill kills?
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On July 01 2018 05:15 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2018 05:10 Holyflare wrote:
Is everyone just blind to good cases or something? Not one of you have even acknowledged this mocsta post. I read it but not properly. It was not bad at first glance. His vote on you is not what you’d expect and it’s weird for him to sheep CopCake. Still think ShoCkeyy is better tho. Do you disagree?
We lynch mocsta or I switch my vote to lynching you. Your choice.
Slenderman is a good alternative.
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If copcake or mocsta (or anyone with me in their scum teams) can succinctly say why I am mafia that would be good thanks. I'm somehow one of the leading wagons with 0 words written about me.
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The problem here is that, if I noticed correctly, if there is a tie, the first one that got the most votes is the one that gets lynched.
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On July 01 2018 05:19 CopCake wrote:
The problem here is that, if I noticed correctly, if there is a tie, the first one that got the most votes is the one that gets lynched.
So vote mocsta or slenderman.
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On July 01 2018 05:15 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2018 05:10 Calix wrote:
You have just committed to a mafia claim in my eyes.
That post was absolutely terrible.
Your reads HAVEN’T changed at all! You’ve just found NK WIFOM to fling at me How was it terrible? Because I caught you? Of course you would try to claim it's bad. You said my reads haven't changed, but I added HF and conversion into my reads which I've never done before, but you wouldn't know because you only can claim that I'm "mafia"...
You haven’t caught shit. Nothing you say about Vivax is even something I can respond to because ta NK analysis.
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