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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2018 15:53 GMT
#1981
Thing is, I don't even think Conversion is the worst offender in this thread. I think Mocsta is actually mafia now because he's doing that thing he did last game of flitting between thread sentiment lynches just to blend in. Post incoming.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 30 2018 15:55 GMT
#1982
- raises hand and says that if she makes a case gets shitted on -
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 30 2018 15:58 GMT
#1983
I don’t understand why that post was meant to attack me when you just ended your conclusion on why Mocsta is mafia?

Also no shit I’m going to play like I’m town, that’s because I am. Never did I mention anything about my vote switch to Shockeyy making myself town?
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 30 2018 16:00 GMT
#1984
also if I’m going by your information “gained” from lynching boxerfred, I may as well lynch myself?
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 30 2018 16:02 GMT
#1985
anyways I’m heading out now. will be back some brief amount of time before EoD
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2018 16:06 GMT
#1986
On July 01 2018 00:58 Conversion wrote:
I don’t understand why that post was meant to attack me when you just ended your conclusion on why Mocsta is mafia?

Also no shit I’m going to play like I’m town, that’s because I am. Never did I mention anything about my vote switch to Shockeyy making myself town?


The post attacks you because I think you are playing like mafia and my next item on the agenda is to show mocsta is doing the same thing and is also mafia. Maximising town my friend.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2018 16:06 GMT
#1987
time*
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2018 16:11 GMT
#1988
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On June 30 2018 20:53 Mocsta wrote:
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On June 27 2018 23:49 Calix wrote:
On June 27 2018 23:42 Holyflare wrote:
Why am I not being scum read? :D


Talking to me?

I am assuming you're asking why I'm not calling you mafia despite your play somewhat matching what I think mafia does, I don't think you not doing much on D1 means anything other than you being busy because you're more than capable of curb-stomping the thread towards my mislynch if you really wanted to.

I haven't properly read your filter but I remember one moment where it looked like you were preparing to attack Mocsta and then you saw a post from him and said "nah" and it looked kinda townie to me. Because you gave yourself the opportunity to go after someone and try and get them lynched while disturbing the 'town circle' and looking like you're doing something. And you didn't take it.

Also because you're not D1 lynch material and you haven't really done anything scummy to make me change my mind so I'm fine to let you do whatever for the time being.

So yeah.
sigh this is legit about hf
Like as mafia he really had no need to drop his read on me
No need at all

I still would have thought he would be biting onto something at this point of the game though.

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On June 30 2018 21:32 Mocsta wrote:
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On June 30 2018 21:23 Holyflare wrote:
I should be the easiest mislynch to push, dunno why nobody is pushing it hard.
can you please review the posts and conclusion i made on calix

I would like your opinion

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On June 30 2018 22:23 Mocsta wrote:
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On June 30 2018 22:18 Koshi wrote:
On June 30 2018 22:14 Mocsta wrote:
Koshi

How does conversion work if you believe shockee is town?

Like maybe i shouldnt rely on heuristics at eod2 but if copcake was scum. I expect rayn to have clued in by now. And frankly. I find her too polarising ti be scum. Bkg committment to do that thrkughtout the whole game.

Why wouldnt it work? And I do not believe shockey is town. His filter is just okay. But conversion filter is way worse. Dont say things I never said. Why you people do this I will never understand.

Shockey and conversion are 2 different playerd who both can be mafia or town.

The only persons who cannot be mafia together are Calix and Shockeyy. Or they are insanely bussing. Which is possible. Because everything is possible.

Vote people who have highest chamce to be mafia and go from there = thx
im not going to be around lynch

My focus is to put a vote on whom i think is scum and whom will get traction

I refuse to vote calix and could do 1 of shockee or conversion.

My preferred was shockee cos i think it clears calix and should make game easier to resolve

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On June 30 2018 22:36 Mocsta wrote:
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On June 30 2018 22:28 CopCake wrote:
Dude it is 6:28 here, I was having breakfast.

And Koshi are you saying I am mafia, right?
regardless, its disappointing you havrnt reevaluated your position on conversion.

We know tt and boxer were town.

Calix is likely town.

So whats the big deal concersion didnt want to swap. He was on town lynch no matter what.

Again this highlights shockeey for me.



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On June 30 2018 22:58 Mocsta wrote:
Im so confused i cant even sheep

Like the conversion vote is only scummy if shockee is town which fucks up all my pairings
Actual
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On June 28 2018 08:17 Tubesock wrote:
Final Day 1 Vote Count



Tictock[3]:Holyflare, Vivax, Conversion, Holyflare, ShoCkeyy, raynpelikoneet, CopCake
ShoCkeyy[4]:Regfan Vivax, Tictock, Calix,Vivax,Mocsta, Koshi, Regfan,Tictock, Conversion
Calix[0]:raynpelikoneet,Mocsta,CopCake, Koshi, raynpelikoneet
boxerfred[5]:boxerfred, Holyflare, Mocsta, Calix, Vivax
Holyflare[0]:Conversion Calix
Regfan[0]:Mocsta,Tictock
Koshi[0]:Vivax, Mocsta
TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan
CopCake[0]:Vivax, Calix
Vivax[0]:Holyflare,Calix, Regfan
raynpelikoneet [0]:Tictock

Boxerfred has been lynched.



Edit for my world
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On June 28 2018 08:17 Tubesock wrote:
Final Day 1 Vote Count



Tictock[3]:Holyflare, Vivax, Conversion, Holyflare, ShoCkeyy, raynpelikoneet, CopCake
ShoCkeyy[4]:Regfan Vivax, Tictock, Calix,Vivax,Mocsta, Koshi, Regfan,Tictock, Conversion
Calix[0]:raynpelikoneet,Mocsta,CopCake, Koshi, raynpelikoneet
boxerfred[5]:boxerfred, Holyflare, Mocsta, Calix, Vivax
Holyflare[0]:Conversion Calix
Regfan[0]:Mocsta,Tictock
Koshi[0]:Vivax, Mocsta
TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan
CopCake[0]:Vivax,Calix
Vivax[0]:Holyflare,Calix, Regfan
raynpelikoneet [0]:Tictock

Boxerfred has been lynched.
i find it so hard to believe that copcake is town

Voting tells me

Shoxkee is town

Concersion koshi holyflare is mafia

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On June 30 2018 23:04 Mocsta wrote:
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On June 30 2018 23:01 CopCake wrote:
On June 30 2018 22:58 Mocsta wrote:
Im so confused i cant even sheep

Like the conversion vote is only scummy if shockee is town which fucks up all my pairings
Actual
On June 28 2018 08:17 Tubesock wrote:
Final Day 1 Vote Count



Tictock[3]:Holyflare, Vivax, Conversion, Holyflare, ShoCkeyy, raynpelikoneet, CopCake
ShoCkeyy[4]:Regfan Vivax, Tictock, Calix,Vivax,Mocsta, Koshi, Regfan,Tictock, Conversion
Calix[0]:raynpelikoneet,Mocsta,CopCake, Koshi, raynpelikoneet
boxerfred[5]:boxerfred, Holyflare, Mocsta, Calix, Vivax
Holyflare[0]:Conversion Calix
Regfan[0]:Mocsta,Tictock
Koshi[0]:Vivax, Mocsta
TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan
CopCake[0]:Vivax, Calix
Vivax[0]:Holyflare,Calix, Regfan
raynpelikoneet [0]:Tictock

Boxerfred has been lynched.



Edit for my world
On June 28 2018 08:17 Tubesock wrote:
Final Day 1 Vote Count



Tictock[3]:Holyflare, Vivax, Conversion, Holyflare, ShoCkeyy, raynpelikoneet, CopCake
ShoCkeyy[4]:Regfan Vivax, Tictock, Calix,Vivax,Mocsta, Koshi, Regfan,Tictock, Conversion
Calix[0]:raynpelikoneet,Mocsta,CopCake, Koshi, raynpelikoneet
boxerfred[5]:boxerfred, Holyflare, Mocsta, Calix, Vivax
Holyflare[0]:Conversion Calix
Regfan[0]:Mocsta,Tictock
Koshi[0]:Vivax, Mocsta
TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan
CopCake[0]:Vivax,Calix
Vivax[0]:Holyflare,Calix, Regfan
raynpelikoneet [0]:Tictock

Boxerfred has been lynched.
i find it so hard to believe that copcake is town

Voting tells me

Shoxkee is town

Concersion koshi holyflare is mafia


I am not town?
Realisitically yoy are town in my eyes
However calix is absolutely lock town for me going forward which is whh i coliured her green

Maybe it is as simple as TSM is the 3rd scum because teams just seem odd

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On June 30 2018 23:16 Mocsta wrote:
If shockee and convo scum. Its a stupid bus

If convo scum and shoxk toen. The hammer makes nk sense as all wagons were town and he didnt have to move

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On June 30 2018 23:28 Mocsta wrote:
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On June 30 2018 23:24 CopCake wrote:
I take more in consideration actions than words tbh.

I cant see a mafia last minute voting shockey if they see that boxerfred is getting majority and there is no way mafia would know vivax voted last second.

I am gonna re check that and see the order of the last 4 votes to be pretty and absolutly clear of that in case I am missing another possible universe.

I feel like a clumsy dr. Strange.
actually.

The only benefit as sfum would be so he can shit on the boxerfred wagon.
This ONLY is possible if shockee is town

Ironically this is what convo has been doing though

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On June 30 2018 23:31 Mocsta wrote:
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On June 30 2018 23:25 CopCake wrote:
On June 30 2018 23:23 Mocsta wrote:
On June 30 2018 23:19 Conversion wrote:
I don’t understand why people are focusing on me switching from TT to shockeyy and not the 4 people who switched to an irrelevant noinfo lynch and looking for scum there. does everyone here seriously think that was a pure town wagon?

At least 3 of the 4 voters i bekieve is town

I said my reasons. I cant help it yoy are so (personally) against it


If you believe this then HF is mafia with this comment?
i dont want to believe it but i dont see what other choixes there are

It is really annoying TSM acknowledged he knew about the game and would come back and hasnt

Not annoying because it blocks finding scum but it makea the team combos frustrating

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On June 30 2018 23:37 Mocsta wrote:
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On June 28 2018 07:21 Koshi wrote:
On June 28 2018 07:20 Mocsta wrote:
On June 28 2018 07:19 Koshi wrote:
If I TT is mafia I will pledge my vote to you next 10 games rayn. Next 10 votes. No shit.
Why is TT town

big claims, need some dot points br0

Not surw if you can read.

This post still annoys me

B4 that the only thing on tt is
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On June 27 2018 23:10 Koshi wrote:
Ended up reading TT and think we should vote Vivax over Calix. I'll still follow rayn but Vivax looks worse from what I read.


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On June 30 2018 23:39 Mocsta wrote:
D1
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On June 28 2018 07:16 Koshi wrote:
Reading schockeyy I am ok with him dieing over TT. The betrayel is real but schockeyy is either bad town or mafia. TT is actually playing.

##unvote
Vote schockeyy


D2
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On June 30 2018 21:14 Koshi wrote:
There is nothing in Shockeys filter that makes him mafia. Maybe it is too clean.. blah blah. He makes a lot of posts that solely imply he is town though. Saw like 4 of them easily.

Who is lynch nr 3?



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On June 30 2018 23:41 Mocsta wrote:
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On June 30 2018 23:39 CopCake wrote:
Mocsta

Who do you want to lynch?


Koshi > hf = shockee

One problem i have with scum koshi is why noy keep town shock as a mislynch this cycle

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On June 30 2018 23:42 Mocsta wrote:
Im going to bed in 10 though and dont want to throw away my vote

Thats my preference but will sheeo yoy for consolidation.

Where to?

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On July 01 2018 00:17 Mocsta wrote:
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On July 01 2018 00:16 CopCake wrote:
On July 01 2018 00:13 Conversion wrote:
I’m going to be unavailable soon until 1 hour to 30 minutes before EoD, which is why I’m stating how this game is going to go aince we have Koshi and HF on me and apparently they can type by bashing their head against a keyboard and people won’t lynch them. Calix you’re being way too stubborn when I’m trying to work with you on alternative lynches and I’m listening to Cop and Mocsta, but if you’re just going to push me until the end of day 2, we can fight until one of us flips. Your unwillingness to work with me and just paint me red is not something that’s giving me confidence that you are town.


;-;

I am up for a HF

ok lets do it
And i go to bed

I highly doubt i will be here at deadline

##vote: holyflare


1. HF IS TOWN "Sigh, this is so town hf because no agenda!"

2. I want HF's opinion on these posts because I respect it and I just read him town.

3. I will vote who I think is mafia. Won't vote Calix, will vote shockeyy and conversion. Shockeyy preferably.

4. Shockeyy is mafia. Conversion's swap is no big deal.

5. Conversion is town. Conversion is only scummy if shockeyy is town. Voting tells me shockeyy is town and Koshi/HF/Conversion(????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????) is mafia. Can't also believe cop is town, looks mafia(??)

6. Cop is now town. Calix is lock town. Maybe slender is mafia.

7. Pointless logic loops.

8. Maybe if he's mafia he did it to shit on the bf wagon. Oh, wait, he did do that.

9. slenderman whining

10. Koshi correctly guessed TT's alignment and it bugs me.

11. These are not contentious points because they can both be applicable.

12. Koshi is now the biggest scum read with HF and Shockeyy being the next biggest????????

13. Don't want to throw away my vote. I'll sheep copcake who I have complained about her logic the entire game and whined that none of her cases make sense.

14. Oh, yeah, I'll throw away my vote on holyflare who I have mentioned 0 times why he is mafia and even called him basically definitely town just 10 posts ago. Even though he has 0 votes. Just because copcake said so.


Look at point 5.

Then point 8.

Point 5 gives Mocsta a mafia team of Conversion/Koshi/HF

Point 8 he says points that would make Conversion mafia even though he just said votes make Conversion mafia.

Point 12 says Koshi now somehow ends up being the biggest scum read WHEN KOSHI VOTED ON SHOCKEYY. I am also somehow on this list AFTER HE CALLED ME TOWN.

If he doesn't acknowledge conversion is mafia because of votes then why the fuck do Koshi and I suddenly become mafia?

The answer is because he changes his reads arbitrarily based on who he is talking to to blend in with sentiment. Do you remember what he said about 90% of cop's posts? That he couldn't follow them or they didn't make sense. Yet, who does he now sheep? You got it, Cop.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2018 16:13 GMT
#1989
##unvote
##vote Mocsta


TL;DR

Arbitrarily calls people mafia who he has no reason to call mafia and doesn't back it up with anything. Switches reads based on who he is talking to and has done so the entirety of the game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2018 16:13 GMT
#1990
I told you last game, voting me is a bad recipe to get destroyed. You should have left me floundering and doing nothing.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
June 30 2018 16:29 GMT
#1991

Day 2 Vote Count






ShoCkeyy[2]:ShoCkeyy,Calix
Holyflare[2]:Mocsta,CopCake Conversion
Mocsta[1]:Holyflare
Calix[2]:raynpelikoneet,Conversion Mocsta,CopCake
Conversion[1]:Koshi Holyflare,Calix
TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan




Calix is currently the lynch.

The deadline is Saturday, Jun 30 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in .

Zerg for Life
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 30 2018 17:44 GMT
#1992
Koshi is not mafia.
calix/hf/slwndy

Cant play today have to party.
table for two on a tv tray
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2018 17:54 GMT
#1993
Uh huh
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 30 2018 18:28 GMT
#1994
Well I give Slendy the benefit of the doubt but you are right he is not like you know, he is too polite to just forget the game again when he just know the game started.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2018 18:32 GMT
#1995
I said we should lynch slender???
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 30 2018 18:45 GMT
#1996
No
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 30 2018 18:50 GMT
#1997
Before i get “you are so difficult etc”

It is because my post is a guess, not a fact.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 30 2018 18:53 GMT
#1998
Just got home, catching up, got a few things I want to get off my chest in regards to last nights kill, but need to filter dive first before I can do so, and confirm my suspicions.
Life?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
June 30 2018 19:05 GMT
#1999
Why are you voting me?
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 30 2018 20:02 GMT
#2000
A few posts from Vivax, that caught my attention:

On June 28 2018 07:59 Vivax wrote:
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On June 28 2018 07:58 Conversion wrote:
alright Calix I'll listen to you


Scummy post. Listen to her for switching to bf but not to shockey?


On June 28 2018 08:00 Vivax wrote:
Well awesome JUST when you made everyone switch off shockey cause you didn't want to, you switch to him all of a sudden. Way of being dumpster.


If you notice Vivax attention goes towards Conversion here about Cilax.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/534607-chill-hop-mafia?page=27#530

On June 27 2018 21:43 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I think Vivax is town, after reading convos between Tictock and Calix... Who btw barely even talk to each other in the thread other than "I didn't like your case against Cake".

It stars with Calix here:

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On June 26 2018 08:06 Calix wrote:
On June 26 2018 08:05 Tictock wrote:
Well nothing to do but pretend like I am working and play this instead.

What up peeps


Sup, long time no see. Fancy randomly bandwagoning some AFK person for the lulz?


What I've found in past games is that afkers are usually town, and away, since they don't have a huge role in the game, they tend to just sit back, watch, and post when needed. And also honestly, I've notice way more mafia trying to lynch into afk towns, than anything. I would understand the afkers too because I thought the game was starting Tuesday. Not Monday night, so I had to play a large catch up as part of it.

here Calix still trying to put blame on afker's, low post count trying to lynch them off, or Vivax, who is starting to look more town after each post because of the interactions between Tictock and Calix.
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On June 27 2018 20:15 Calix wrote:
I'm as good as rayn and HF? Since when? lmao

Anyway I've skimmed the thread. I'm making the executive decision to largely ignore the TWO (!!!) giant cases against me since I'll be working for most of the day and putting me on the defense near EOD is a really bad idea. I'll be around for EOD though so I can do some filter-diving and give reads then ^^

Also Regfan goes up a notch for being sensible, looking into things and discouraging that dumb fight or whatever you'd call it between Tictock and Mocsta (while Mocsta's case was pretty bad, it's not mafia-terrible, I don't think).

Regfan also realises that, in a game where about 1/3 of the players aren't actually playing, lynching someone who is playing on D1 is suboptimal.

Yes, yes, this argument is really self-serving but it's not wrong so you should probably just do it.

In a normal game, this would be the part where I tell you who the best lynch is but I would be lying if I said I had any preference. Sure, I can analyse Koshi/ ShoCkeyy/ Vivax or whine about how terrible it is that two players haven't posted yet. But I don't think it's possible to accurately assess players with such low post counts so I don't see the point of wasting time by pretending to do so. I could lynch literally any of them right now and my thoughts are probably not changing until they actually start doing stuff.


Then tictock's reasoning of not "voting for Cilax"
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On June 27 2018 14:00 Tictock wrote:
I think I am also just pretty against lynching Calix today.

I still a bit of sus on her, but her play as the day has gone on has left me feeling like their is a solid chance she could be town here still.

Even if I was still toying with the idea of Calix being in my working Mafia team (which is purely just to keep my imagination going, I don't actually think I have a good chance at pinging the entire team D1), I would probably advocate against her lynch today as she is a bad player to lynch D1.

Honestly I really want to push town to do the smart thing for once D1 and kill off someone like Shokey or Koshi. Boxer deserves something worse than a lynch for signing up with an exclamation right before the game starts then not posting for most of D1 (assuming he does post and nothing truly terrible happened to him).

I also think Vivax is probably a fine lynch, and want more people to relook at Mocsta again since he's fresh on my mind now.


Possibly lynching off a teammate d1 won't work for him, so yea let's go for the afkers or Vivax the well known town...


My post is #530, Cilax claims "vivax" is town almost 600 posts later here. I was on Cilax trail all day yesterday, but was being blinded by watching. After filter diving once again, and re-reading most of the thread, I noticed these little tid bits. What I seem to recall re-reading the end of Day 1 was that Calix was trying to groom Vivax into lynching me, having him focus on my filter, and have my name in his filter end of D1 while Cilax looks like town cilax to Vivax. This is Cilax way after I town read Vivax. Then all the sudden Vivax dies D1.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/534607-chill-hop-mafia?page=57#1126

On June 28 2018 08:38 Calix wrote:
I don't want Vivax dead because I think he's turning into a beautiful butterfly.

And if you look past his posting style, his content's been alright.


One other thing I notice was she did almost the same thing towards TT. Who in the end mod killed himself because he had so much pressure from town, if it wasn't for Cilax KNOWING TT was town.

On June 29 2018 00:00 Calix wrote:
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On June 28 2018 23:56 CopCake wrote:
Tbf it is the first time I see someone to put A LOT of effort for someone that is not 100% confirmed.


I defend my town-reads a lot when I am town.

In my first game on this site, TT and I were both town. TT was the D1 lynch and I went out of my way to save him. But I failed. Then people called me mafia for "white-knighting TT". Think that was Haunted Mafia 3 or something.

I also hard-defended Tumblewood against accusations in one of BTDT's Generic Mafia games.

Just two examples off the top of my head.


But how would she know TT is town? unless Cilax is mafia, she would know exactly who is town. Also you can see, she's the first to try and get a bus going, just check her filter, she's all over the place. And continues, even with Vivax at one point. I feel like the Vivax night kill was meant to try and frame me based on his late d1 filter.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/534607-chill-hop-mafia?page=19#379


On June 27 2018 02:28 Calix wrote:
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On June 27 2018 02:19 CopCake wrote:
Calix, who are your mafia reads and who are your toen reads and why?

I need two on each category.


I don't have anything insightful with mafia reads. My current thinking is "the active people seem townie so there's probably more mafia in the inactive section" but I also don't know how to sort between boxerfred/ Koshi/ SlenderMan/ Vivax/ ShoCkeyy.

I guess Koshi and Vivax and ShoCkeyy because they've posted and their posts are pretty underwhelming and accomplish even less shit than I have? And Vivax might be trying to pocket/ white-knight me since I'm looking like a likely mislynch right now.

I realise I'm still voting for you so lemme change that: ##Vote: Vivax.

I think Mocsta is town because he seems to be posting off-the-cuff and doesn't seem to have preformed conclusions and is flexible with his reads. His style is different from his last game too.

Conversion's town because he seems to be having fun while still contributing when he wants.

Tictock's probably town. I haven't actually opened his filter though. I'm just being cocky and assuming he'll fuck up really bad at some point if he's scum so I'm not worried about him.


So what's next? A few people seem to be on Cilax side, a few people seem to not. I want to push Cilax, but that depends on how many votes I can get. If I'm needed to lynch some one else, it'll be HF based on this post alone.

On June 28 2018 08:00 Holyflare wrote:
Lo and behold mafia conversion saves mafi bf.


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