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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 29 2018 13:42 GMT
#1640
On June 27 2018 00:41 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2018 21:13 Mocsta wrote:
On June 26 2018 08:06 Calix wrote:
On June 26 2018 08:05 Tictock wrote:
Well nothing to do but pretend like I am working and play this instead.

What up peeps


Sup, long time no see. Fancy randomly bandwagoning some AFK person for the lulz?
small thing

But if calix is mafia. Its not with tictock

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On June 26 2018 21:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 26 2018 21:13 Mocsta wrote:
On June 26 2018 08:06 Calix wrote:
On June 26 2018 08:05 Tictock wrote:
Well nothing to do but pretend like I am working and play this instead.

What up peeps


Sup, long time no see. Fancy randomly bandwagoning some AFK person for the lulz?
small thing

But if calix is mafia. Its not with tictock

Actually when Holyflare made his post on tictock i tried to think about that quite a bit and i wouldn't be so certain of that. Grackaroni and FF once completely fooled me with some dumb "early game alliance" just like that.


You guys should stop trying to call me mafia, I already told you I'm unlynchable this game.

Unfortunately I'm getting too distracted with this game and need to actually work, so will have to finish catching up later.
i always thought this was an overreaction from tt

It is defi itely standing out for me now
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 29 2018 13:46 GMT
#1643
On June 27 2018 05:15 Tictock wrote:
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On June 27 2018 00:45 Calix wrote:
I also hate your last line and not because it's mafia-indicative but because it means that yet ANOTHER person is not willing to work with me -___-


Don't take it as that, I'm just going gung-ho with my initial reads this game rather than being a tad passive in the early stages.

Always open to re-evaluation.

As such, while nothing has stood out to me as clearly Town!Calix I no longer think you are lock scum. Though it's just me being swayed by tone more than anything specific really.

I think I am going with the strategy of building a solid group of people I think are town and sorting out the Mafia from the remainder this phase.

Right now I think my town list is Rayn, Cake, Mocsta, and I'm probably going to add HF and Conversion but am less sure about them atm (though I'm pretty unlikely to want to lynch them today regardless).
ooo i see now. Thats all it took
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 29 2018 13:48 GMT
#1646
On June 27 2018 06:53 Tictock wrote:
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On June 27 2018 05:24 Conversion wrote:
On June 27 2018 05:15 Tictock wrote:
On June 27 2018 00:45 Calix wrote:
I also hate your last line and not because it's mafia-indicative but because it means that yet ANOTHER person is not willing to work with me -___-


Don't take it as that, I'm just going gung-ho with my initial reads this game rather than being a tad passive in the early stages.

Always open to re-evaluation.

As such, while nothing has stood out to me as clearly Town!Calix I no longer think you are lock scum. Though it's just me being swayed by tone more than anything specific really.

I think I am going with the strategy of building a solid group of people I think are town and sorting out the Mafia from the remainder this phase.

Right now I think my town list is Rayn, Cake, Mocsta, and I'm probably going to add HF and Conversion but am less sure about them atm (though I'm pretty unlikely to want to lynch them today regardless).


why am I a waffle town


Mostly kus you keep questioning why people townread you, seems like an odd thing to do as mafia.

The rest of your play I could go either way about. I seem to recall you having a decent mafia game, and in general I have little experience playing with you.

Based on my instinct though you are pretty likely to be town here, I just have very little reason to back that up.
not a good post in hindsight either from tt
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 29 2018 13:51 GMT
#1647
Given how tt wants to lynch koshi

I can see a world of hf/calix/tt

But i really need to read those missing 20p near end of day1 to understand how they went from disyancing to saving each ither.

Doeant make sense

But i suppose in thaf last game when kita and iamp were up for lynch i just went yolo
Perhaps yolo for calix is.. i will try tl save tt and it might come across as too scummy to be scum
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 29 2018 13:52 GMT
#1649
Also.. if hf is mafia.. why cant he shoot rayn?

This i dont get
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 29 2018 14:05 GMT
#1659
On June 27 2018 13:50 Tictock wrote:
Yea it was these couple of posts.

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On June 27 2018 07:46 Mocsta wrote:
Im re-reading the game before continuing where I finished last night (circa p13). Apologies if this is cock-blocking active discussion.

On June 26 2018 08:15 Calix wrote:
It was clearly written before he received his role because if he was an investigative role, he (or she, since this is Gemma?) would know that Cops on this site don't get N0 checks.

Thus it's not AI.

I would like to know more about the two players in the hydra though. How many games have they played, where are they from, stuff like that.[/]
On June 26 2018 09:50 Regfan wrote:
I've played a little over 20 games, although most of them I wouldn't qualify as real games. I'm from Westeros, where we play alted games with usually pretty short deadlines. Regfan has been mentoring me for a while now, and my love for process comes from him. I'm good at some of the things he's terrible at, like having a personality, and he's good at some of the things I'm terrible at (nothing comes to mind right now), so we complement each other pretty well I think.

-G


I'm going to go out on a limb that Regfan is town because of this interaction (and how important it is to Gemma later in D1 when talking to Rayn).

Gemma got so "horny" to share some info about herself - which in her mind is pivotal to town success; that she later interprets the post from Calix to be (positively) conclusive; when merely it is asking for token info that could be discerned as the game progresses.

I can't picture a world where mafia would BOTH lap up the opportunity to talk about themselves AND strongly advocate the post as a basis for town+scum reads.
Definitely one or the other, but not both.

This town read makes absolutely no sense to me. I get that I am probably a little tunneled on Reg myself, possibly even just due to the Hydra thing, but this feels super forced.

& Post #426, his Calix case, which kept breaking my post for some reason.

It feels off how Mocsta is presenting these things from basically the begging of the game like he just discovered them. I could maybe see the first one but the second post about Calix's 3rd post feels more like something he dug up and realized he could write a whole bunch about it.

The post about Calix especially bugs me kus I brought this up withing the first few hours of the game, and eventually dismissed it as being rather flimsy. Mocsta was definitely around then, but had no reaction so it is so weird he is taking such emphasis with it now.

Idk, those posts gave me weird vibes when I read them and so I took a quick glance through Mocsta's filter. Everything just felt so flippant in his posts up until the last few hours, then suddenly a bunch of effort posts, a fairly shitty list post, and this "case" on Calix. By flippant here I mean there is no clear reads or direction in his posting. Feels like he suddenly decided to put out the effort.

There is a bit more, but I don't feel like writing a full essay here. And I already put it so eloquently in my last post.
...

Oh actually I did almost forget one thing.

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[B]On June 27 2018 00:14 Mocsta wrote:
On June 27 2018 00:12 Tictock wrote:
On June 26 2018 14:59 Mocsta wrote:

- Tictock: because whilst I liked the later posts, it is still not reminding me of the last game I played with him where I vividly remember him as this guy that is all about "accuracy" and his "own logical model". In fairness, the environment of the game state is somewhat different, so im still battling whether this is alignment indicative or not.


Not sure this is AI, but this is your recollection of me based on that bastard game where You, me, and DF got our own QT and I convinced myself you were mafia based off the ring nonsense the hosts threw at us?

I'm just not sure I've ever seen anyone describe my playstyle like this before.

...

Heh, it just now strikes me that we are both referring to this as "not sure if AI", lol.
yes. That one game.
I was confirmed town and you refused to change ya view kn the world
It stuck with me lol

I will filter dive you on d2 as you arent in my d1 pool


Calix was 100% right about this, my memory was faulty and I was getting Mocsta mixed up with Grack in This game. It's odd that Mocsta would have had no clue what I was talking about but still replied "yea that one." I would be willing to write this point off as whatever since it doesn't scream mafia, but you should remember Mocsta keeps using his meta as a basis to read me. So the fact he is so blase about which game we last played in is super off.

+ Show Spoiler +
Side note: In the last game he was actually referring too, now that I remember, there was like 5 blues. I was rolecop and he was Vig. So the fact that I was doubtful of the claim does not represent the true extent of my ability to crazy tunnel.
i always thought his 180 flip kn me was weird

But with the calix association.. well.. much more sense now
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 29 2018 14:07 GMT
#1660
On June 27 2018 14:00 Tictock wrote:
I think I am also just pretty against lynching Calix today.

I still a bit of sus on her, but her play as the day has gone on has left me feeling like their is a solid chance she could be town here still.

Even if I was still toying with the idea of Calix being in my working Mafia team (which is purely just to keep my imagination going, I don't actually think I have a good chance at pinging the entire team D1), I would probably advocate against her lynch today as she is a bad player to lynch D1.

Honestly I really want to push town to do the smart thing for once D1 and kill off someone like Shokey or Koshi. Boxer deserves something worse than a lynch for signing up with an exclamation right before the game starts then not posting for most of D1 (assuming he does post and nothing truly terrible happened to him).

I also think Vivax is probably a fine lynch, and want more people to relook at Mocsta again since he's fresh on my mind now.

Oihb wow... this is heinous in hindsight. My god

Its amazing how differently thr game unfolds on a reread

I havent really experienced this before lol
Always reacion fishing
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 29 2018 14:11 GMT
#1663
On June 27 2018 14:40 Tictock wrote:
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On June 27 2018 14:11 Mocsta wrote:
To be honest, I can only see someone taking issue with this if they are concerned Calix is a mislynch and it will make them look bad. I would say only mafia could have that level of certainty on D1 so I really dont know where that puts us?


I am concerned Calix is a mislynch, but only factor in how that would be bad for town.

How would it make me look bad? More to the point here, why would I as mafia stick my neck out to 180 when I've clearly done some legwork to have a perfectly valid reason to push Calix here?

These are the little snips that will get me to scumread you, it's hedging at it's finest. You are overall suggesting you think I am town but throw this bit in like you need to keep a line of reasoning that I am mafia.
middle parapragh is important.

Tt states he has legwork to lynch calix if wanted

But everything before is that calix is town and calibhr to not lynch

Yes. Filter dive is done

Calix/tt/ and hf
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 29 2018 14:43 GMT
#1697
On June 29 2018 23:40 CopCake wrote:
Rayn, what are you doing?

Clearing HF?

Dotting is and crossing ts

I think its good as a backup

I really think calix qt slipped with hf though
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 29 2018 14:48 GMT
#1700
On June 29 2018 23:44 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2018 23:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Who do you scumread?


Is it bad to say nobody?
i was expecting me
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 29 2018 22:36 GMT
#1768
Sorry to see you go tt
Its definitely a weird game

Hf
Before the modkill why did you say calix xould still be scum without tt?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 29 2018 22:40 GMT
#1770
Lol calix

Malleable if someone comes up ejth someyhing better is called lack of ego
And its town as fuck
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 30 2018 00:32 GMT
#1788
I can lynch koshi instead of calix

I wouldnt want to go into lylo with him
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 30 2018 00:57 GMT
#1790
On June 30 2018 09:51 CopCake wrote:
I can only lynch HF or mocsta

Calix, the same way you ask us to think in worlds in which you are town, I want you to think who are the mafia from the info you have from the past days.
wtf

Why me?

Like if there was no medic claim i could easily lynch you + rayn as well

You are the most obnoxious player i have seen in a long time
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 30 2018 07:47 GMT
#1793
Hf

You had no scum reads b4 tt was modkilled

Where are u now?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 30 2018 07:56 GMT
#1794
And hf

Can calix and shockey ever be on the same team??
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 30 2018 08:00 GMT
#1795
Rayn

Why was shockeyy town... just the dumbtell which later was apparently bait?

Disregard my posts yesterday as i was associating tt as scum.

Why is shockeyy town now??
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 30 2018 08:26 GMT
#1798
On June 30 2018 17:00 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2018 16:47 Mocsta wrote:
Hf

You had no scum reads b4 tt was modkilled

Where are u now?


no scum reads

probably calix I guess
why am i not scum?

like if conversion and others think i am, surely, i should be in your pile?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 30 2018 08:28 GMT
#1799
On June 30 2018 16:56 Mocsta wrote:
And hf

Can calix and shockey ever be on the same team??
and this one too please.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 30 2018 08:30 GMT
#1801
On June 30 2018 17:28 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2018 17:00 Holyflare wrote:
On June 30 2018 16:47 Mocsta wrote:
Hf

You had no scum reads b4 tt was modkilled

Where are u now?


no scum reads

probably calix I guess


And why am I now mafia after you wrote a bunch of posts about how townie I am?

Do not like.
ssshhhsssss.
im considering you could be town.
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