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You seem to hold the same position as Rayn, in that all votes are of the same intensity.
Early votes to me are the same as a Finger of Suspicion was back in the day.
What matters is how it unfolds which is that when I was seeking Kitamin consolidation, I did not reference the initial joke post. This point/item is simply not worthy of further discourse.
As for your query to explain the reference below:
kitaman27:Mocsta mafia too for being eager to jump in the thread to call something out and falling way short. Can't imagine he actually thinks my joke post was an attempt to wow the thread for some town cred.
Mocsta:mafia know the most info day1 and when coupled with our level of play leads this towards a town tell. intentional twisting from kita.
Holyflare:which doesn't make any sense to me and looks like you misconstruing. Please explain it to me (it's also based on his rebuttal from the joke post). In retrospect I can see this is written confusingly.
The point I was attempting to make is that kitamin27 is calling me mafia for being "outright wrong/stupid".
I find rather that it is townies early game that are more likely to make polarizing / wrong / stupid statements early game simply because of the lack of information and that by nature, extroverted people need external stimuli to draw conclusions
P.S. I find half the things you write I have to sit and think deeply about, whereas to you, its clear as daylight.
We clearly dot i's and cross t's differently.
Noted and accepted on renewed vigour.
You can look at people that pushed a town lynch as much as you want; but i dont recall you trying to persuade against a palmar lynch nor you stepping up in his absence when the votes were tight. Meaningless now to question whether you thought he was a terrible lynch choice though so will leave this.
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On June 10 2018 17:35 Mocsta wrote:
kitamin27
On June 10 2018 21:10 Mocsta wrote:
kitamin
On June 10 2018 21:26 Mocsta wrote:
Kitamin
On June 10 2018 22:07 Mocsta wrote:
kitamin.
On June 11 2018 07:18 Mocsta wrote:
kitamin
On June 11 2018 07:18 Mocsta wrote:
kitamin
On June 11 2018 07:31 Mocsta wrote:
kitamin
On June 11 2018 07:46 Mocsta wrote:
kitamin
On June 11 2018 10:33 Mocsta wrote:
Kitamin
On June 11 2018 10:33 Mocsta wrote:
We clearly dot i's and cross t's differently.
Maybe you should stop dotting your i's altogether.
BECAUSE I'M NOT A VITAMIN.
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lol. that really made me laugh out loud
i do not apologise.
please shoot me for my ignorance.
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Hey Superbia and Rels. Could you guys talk to me? Mocsta is town and Holyflare is super tunneled so i am just going to ignore him for the rest of the game.
I understand i am probably going to get lynched tomorrow what you guys need to do after that is lynch kitaman. Mocsta is correct in that kitaman is over and over again presenting a damned if you do, damned if you dont arguments. Look at what i said about him earlier. Look at Mocsta's posts. Look at the time where he says "nothing is set in stone and i am constantly reconsidering" or some bs like that, when i confronted him about already deciding i am mafia and then still questioning Palmar. Then Palmar answers his question with "scummy post" comment and look at all the amount of him reconsidering. Do you think an "answer" like that should make him reconsider?  I mean like, at best the dude is the worst hypocrite in the game and i do not really think that is what town!kitaman is. Also there is the calling Grackaroni town.
Superbia talk to me about iamperfection. The guy has been a total trashcan in this game and from what i know he is a trashcan when he is mafia, so yeah, i can easily see him being mafia. I just couldn't see 3 mafia jumping on me like that because it's very retarded thing to do in my opinion regardless of the outcome of the lynch.
I kind of sorta agree with fuba being weird. Otherwise i would think he is mafia but there was a time where he made a post where he already set in voting for me and decided against it in the end. I mean if i was fuba i would totally lynch rayn who plays over garbage Palmar. I am not sure why he wouldn't as scum do that?
Grackaroni is probably still not scum, because kitaman is scum, and if he was scum he would most likely have made sure i get lynched.
Koshi can be mafia. I actually thought at the same thing Mocsta did earlier, that the vote on Rels was a "vote on townie", like he said lol. It's probably not what he meant but now that Rels has actually posted stuff, Koshi should do something. We will see, he can easily be mafia anyways.
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I'll try to make a couple of these reads more understandable. Normally when you search for mafia you question things and search for answers for what you feel like you don't understand or can't make a decision on. Then you make a decision and act on it. What kitaman does is he already has found his answer (and i am not talking about if he is right or wrong because townies can be wrong ofc -- but the important part is he clearly has found an answer) but after that he is still trying to look like he is looking for answers. That's not a way townies ever operate in this game. No matter how good or bad you are it's just not a way you operate, ever.
I understand what you are saying about strength of votes Mocsta, but that is something i am not talking about here. I am mostly talking about this post:
When you said that Palmar's post couldn't have been genuine it read more like "I haven't posted anything wrong yet so he can't possibly have caught me". Your claim that the initial Palmar post was relevant scumhunting doesn't carry much weight considering the comment was made in passing and you don't directly confront him until now after 3-4 people start pressuring you.
Read this post very carefully. That is a scumread. If this is your read, and you believe it, why do you ever feel like you need to reconsider. He earlier said he wanted me to explain my stance. At that point the votes on me had already happened, so how can whatever i say change his mind??? There is simply no answer i can give that should make him think oterwise he says in this post, so why ask the question in the first place? It doesn't make any sense.
Second instance is the one where he asks Palmar about his read on me. Two things to note here:
1) The thing i quoted above is already what he thinks, and there is no way i am mafia with Palmar, again a completely pointless question he cannot possibly achieve anything from
2) Let's imagine (1) is incorrect and he thinks he can actually gain something from Palmar's answer. Palmar answers with a one-liner post that doesn't show anything but ignorance towards the game. Where does this "reconsidering my reads" that kitaman so roots for ever show? Absolutely nowhere, he never even touches Palmar's answer with a long stick while that is the KEY POINT to where he stands in this game regarding reads and if he is right or wrong.
I call fucking bullshit.
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On fuba, this is the post i am talking about:
On June 11 2018 01:57 fuba wrote:
Though having just seen the vote count - that's a lot of pretty good players on one person... Unless they're all scum (or even 2/3 of them are scum) I could just be wrong :S
If fuba is mafia i believe this is a clear set up for voting for me. Like, think about it, assume i am town and you are fuba. What do you do after this? Noone will ever blame you for voting for me (especially since HF and kitaman are hc rooting for my lynch). What would you do in that situation? Do you vote for garbage Palmar or do you vote for me here? Because i know i would always vote for me.
I'd love some input on this in case you think otherwise.
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Yeah okay the only instance i can see is if fuba is mafia with exactly kitaman and iamperfection and they all don't want to be on the same train (while it doesn't matter here at all, i don't think they would think so though as mafia team) so i am not completely certain.
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Another thing to note regarding iamperfection is that noone aside from superbia has really not tried to present him as a lynch candidate. I think it would be beneficial for mafia to do so in case he is town, have three mislynch targets to discuss instead of two. Funny fact is this point stands even if i was mafia, actually even more, so basically noone can even argue against it.
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Actually Koshi has to be the third mafia. this post here:
On June 11 2018 08:11 Koshi wrote:
I am not lying. But I would have voted rayn over Palmer.
I care more for the no commitment blunt short stuff than rayn his boring long winded stuff.
But I was playing HS.
This doesn't make any sense at all. First of all Koshi hasn't read any of my posts as he claims. Therefore he cannot have a reason to think i am mafia. Second, Koshi literally said in the last game's obs qt that "Holyflare lately has always pushed mafia agenda as town", so it doesn't make any sense Koshi would so easily follow Holyflare on this lynch. Third, i do not for a second believe Koshi would be so ignorant as town that he doesn't care enough to come to the thread at the deadline. Like yeah, Koshi can seem ignorant and all that shit, but not ignorant enough to not either vote for his scumread or choose a better one of two lynches, and i don't see any possibility of Koshi actually thinking Rels is mafia.
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United Kingdom10443 Posts
not sure who to vote for.
lynching kitamin sounds good though.
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On June 11 2018 14:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Another thing to note regarding iamperfection is that noone aside from superbia has really not tried to present him as a lynch candidate. I think it would be beneficial for mafia to do so in case he is town, have three mislynch targets to discuss instead of two. Funny fact is this point stands even if i was mafia, actually even more, so basically noone can even argue against it.
Noticed this as well. Some people have thrown some vague shade his way but no one seems to wants to take a real stance regarding his alignment.
I'll try to respond some of your posts this evening.
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Oh there's 3 mafia, not 4. #dumbtell
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Also notice how many people read me town compared to how many people give a shit about iap's alignment.
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United Kingdom30775 Posts
On June 11 2018 17:51 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2018 14:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Another thing to note regarding iamperfection is that noone aside from superbia has really not tried to present him as a lynch candidate. I think it would be beneficial for mafia to do so in case he is town, have three mislynch targets to discuss instead of two. Funny fact is this point stands even if i was mafia, actually even more, so basically noone can even argue against it. Noticed this as well. Some people have thrown some vague shade his way but no one seems to wants to take a real stance regarding his alignment. I'll try to respond some of your posts this evening.
Your filter is an example of someone throwing shade iamp's way. Rayn's point is pointless since you're not the only one either. I have no idea why anyone even reads you anything.
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rayn said things about me. I even read it.
I think I will vote him for hardtrying tis hard. It’sunheathy.
Unfunny true story
My samsung s7 melted and now I am on an iphone i want to kill myself so bad... I geta new s7 soon.
I didnt read anything else so dont count on me. I agree I should have voted rayn like my gut told me. But I dont know if he is mafi. I feel very neutral about everything.
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Yo, I'm here! I completely forgot about the game after signing up, SORRY about that!
So if I'm mathing right there's 9 hours until PC. I should be able to do a full read before that. Not able to access my laptop for the next few hours though.
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Koshi, what do you mean by "I think I will vote him [rayn] for hardtrying tis hard. It’sunheathy." ?
I know what the words mean but I want you to rephrase why do you think this makes rayn scummy.
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On June 12 2018 00:00 TheSlenderMan wrote:
Koshi, what do you mean by "I think I will vote him [rayn] for hardtrying tis hard. It’sunheathy." ?
I know what the words mean but I want you to rephrase why do you think this makes rayn scummy.
It is against the esthetics of this slow and tight game to answer question that were already explained in the post you ask the question from.
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I really suck. Apologies.
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Koshi:
The rayn I know is very tryhard as TOWN. Not as Mafia.
What I want to know is whether the "tryhard" that bothers you is something you consider a universal scum!tell (and which just happens to apply to rayn in this game), or whether your opinion of rayn's meta is completely different from mine.
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I liked most all of HF stuff.
I think Mocsta was the one berating and misconstruing. I haven’t liked any of Mocsta’s posts.
I’m also not really a fan of Gracks eod performance. But it’s only scummy if Rayn is mafia. I’m leaning more towards Rayn being town.
Everyone is pretty null. Although Kita made me laugh with two of his posts. And I don’t like to kill people who make me laugh.
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