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On June 12 2018 08:57 Mocsta wrote:
literally you held a relatively strong position before on read with no mention of iamp at all.
Now everything else is dropped.. pfft.
Why not kitaman?
I could vote you also. NK kinda implicates you as well since Superbia was suspicious but then kinda not. But he was pretty flaky on his read so he could probably be a threat to you as well. Why is iamperfection town to you? Because he is bored and not interested in the game? You don’t think a mafia wouldn’t say that to keep lurking?
Kitaman is on the funny side of town, so as I said earlier I won’t vote him. Although if Kita does flip mafia then I’ll believe you’re
Town so there’s that.
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On June 12 2018 09:04 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2018 08:57 Mocsta wrote:
literally you held a relatively strong position before on read with no mention of iamp at all.
Now everything else is dropped.. pfft.
Why not kitaman? I could vote you also. NK kinda implicates you as well since Superbia was suspicious but then kinda not. But he was pretty flaky on his read so he could probably be a threat to you as well. Why is iamperfection town to you? Because he is bored and not interested in the game? You don’t think a mafia wouldn’t say that to keep lurking? Kitaman is on the funny side of town, so as I said earlier I won’t vote him. Although if Kita does flip mafia then I’ll believe you’re Town so there’s that. i'm trembling that you could vote me tubesock.
The only thing the NK suggests is that mafia may have been concerned about N1 power roles - specifically medic dodge.
Nothing is directly implicated as you infer.
Who said iamp is town to me? I am commenting on your lack of consistency and after-the-event 'white knighting'.
If you want my iamp read, given over 50% of the game is also crap posting or lurking, its firmly null.
When are you planning to base your Kitaman read on content, as opposed to joviality?
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On June 12 2018 09:22 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2018 09:04 Tubesock wrote:On June 12 2018 08:57 Mocsta wrote:
literally you held a relatively strong position before on read with no mention of iamp at all.
Now everything else is dropped.. pfft.
Why not kitaman? I could vote you also. NK kinda implicates you as well since Superbia was suspicious but then kinda not. But he was pretty flaky on his read so he could probably be a threat to you as well. Why is iamperfection town to you? Because he is bored and not interested in the game? You don’t think a mafia wouldn’t say that to keep lurking? Kitaman is on the funny side of town, so as I said earlier I won’t vote him. Although if Kita does flip mafia then I’ll believe you’re Town so there’s that. i'm trembling that you could vote me tubesock. The only thing the NK suggests is that mafia may have been concerned about N1 power roles - specifically medic dodge. Nothing is directly implicated as you infer. Who said iamp is town to me? I am commenting on your lack of consistency and after-the-event 'white knighting'. If you want my iamp read, given over 50% of the game is also crap posting or lurking, its firmly null. When are you planning to base your Kitaman read on content, as opposed to joviality?
You’re trembling? Don’t be afraid friend! It’s only one vote. Oh, wait, we’re you being sarcastic? Is that belittling me?
You can believe implications or not. Today I am. Next game maybe not. But, I doubt anyone would really worry about medic dodging N1 with a possible one shot doc. Nope.
I plan to base my Kita read on content Friday, Jun 15 9:48pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in .
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Oh, I don’t think our definitions of white knighting match. Scumming me for trying a two for one, kinda means you town iamperfection...
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On June 12 2018 09:45 Tubesock wrote:
Oh, I don’t think our definitions of white knighting match. Scumming me for trying a two for one, kinda means you town iamperfection... thats a fair position.
However, I meant it from the perspective I already view you scummier than iamp.
Considering it seems only you and I are online:
Would you like to continue the witty attempts, or meaningfully engage with me?
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On June 12 2018 09:49 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2018 09:45 Tubesock wrote:
Oh, I don’t think our definitions of white knighting match. Scumming me for trying a two for one, kinda means you town iamperfection... thats a fair position. However, I meant it from the perspective I already view you scummier than iamp. Considering it seems only you and I are online: Would you like to continue the witty attempts, or meaningfully engage with me?
I’m picking up the boss and we are getting dinner so probably won’t be a great convo but I’ll answer any questions. And I promise not to be snarky.
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what do you make of kitaman27 EoN observation about HF?
On one hand, it made me instantly think.. ohh, thats a good observation, interesting.
On the other hand, I dont believe there are explicit references to this as frankly, I dont know if HF has a strong read beyond Rayn (and now, presumably Kita).
The short story is, do you think this is something someone (i.e Kitaman) can genuinely misrepresent?
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On June 12 2018 09:56 Mocsta wrote:
what do you make of kitaman27 EoN observation about HF?
On one hand, it made me instantly think.. ohh, thats a good observation, interesting.
On the other hand, I dont believe there are explicit references to this as frankly, I dont know if HF has a strong read beyond Rayn (and now, presumably Kita).
The short story is, do you think this is something someone (i.e Kitaman) can genuinely misrepresent?
I don’t read anything into it. I’m assuming you mean his last will post saying HF should town him because they share the same top scum reads.
HF only said something like “Kita is mafia, all I’m going to say” at night. So, unless HF says something further to say why he’s scumming Kita I’m treating it as a night time mind game he likes to do. Well, he often does some play where he claims to be a medic or something. Basically, if anything I think Kita is being overly defensive but even that isn’t true because I don’t think he came across as overly threatened either.
I like Kita’s posts concerning Grack and you. The posts to you were mostly defensive so not exactly alignment indicative, but what he said about Grack is exactly what I was thinking as I was reading the thread. Specifically Gracks statement preparing for how his vote would look.
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nice post. I will look more into Grack.
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For anyone who’s played more with Grack:
I think of Grack as a player who normally doesn’t really care what the rest of the players think about him. I’ve been in and seen him in games go completely against the tide and not care at all if people scum read him. Fearless.
I think him worrying about how his vote would look right after a “It’s SHENANNY time!” Post is very strange.
Am I wrong? (Not to mention why he wouldn’t just kill rayn because it seemed he wanted him dead more so than Palmar)
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TS, I take it you are referring to this?
+ Show Spoiler [quotes] +On June 11 2018 07:48 Grackaroni wrote: It's SHENNANNY time people On June 11 2018 07:50 Grackaroni wrote: I voted perfect. On June 11 2018 07:58 Holyflare wrote: no shenanigans, lynch rayn with all the people that people scum read On June 11 2018 07:58 Grackaroni wrote: I'd rather lynch rayn than Palmar. That's why I'm not switching. On June 11 2018 07:58 Grackaroni wrote: Thought I'm not sure what Rayn is. On June 11 2018 07:59 fuba wrote: ##Vote: Palmar On June 11 2018 08:03 Calix wrote: Palmar reached 5 votes first and is the lynch. On June 11 2018 07:59 Grackaroni wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Rayn On June 11 2018 08:06 Holyflare wrote:
lynch grack for either being partners with rayn and wanting credit on his eventual flip or wanting to "appear" to want to vote rayn without actually lynching him On June 11 2018 08:16 kitaman27 wrote: At least fuba is consistent for favoring a Palmar vote over rayn.
What did you even mean grack when you said "That's why I'm not switching."? That looks really sketchy. On June 11 2018 08:31 Grackaroni wrote: I wasn't really crazy about either of the lynches so I said that anticipating criticism of Rayn being lynched over Palmar and me throwing away my vote instead of voting a main wagon. On June 11 2018 08:38 kitaman27 wrote: Anticipating criticism? How do you know he wasn't going to flip mafia?
For what it's worth a rayn + grack scum team doesn't make a ton of sense in my opinion based on the earlier plea from rayn.
meh guess we'll see where the night shot goes and go from there.
Well yes.. it does read overly dramatic and devoid of town motivation. The filter prior is nothing shining either.
I will throw out there that fuba/Grack vote timestamps are the same. So Grack may have tried to hammer Rayn.
I acknowledge Kitaman may have alluded to this when claiming rayn/grack doesnt make sense - however, I suspect that this was more tied to rayns multiple posts about Grack not being mafia.
In summary, I am probably most curious to uncover why Grack felt the need to ditch his dead vote on iamp (and possibly hammer) if he didnt feel strongly about either lynch.
Also, I dont know how I feel about a kita/grack team. Need to let this sink in more..
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There is no such thing as medic dodge in this game.
Why aren't you dead Holyflare?
Also explain me this:
He made a case on kita that made him "definitely mafiaa", that went nowhere and he forgot all about it or certainly didn't want to push it over a palmar read that's based off of one post and shit.
Yeah i did that. It doesn't make me mafia. You are very very likely lying here since we just came out of a game where i decided to not vote for a guy who also happened to be you who is was completely 100% certain is mafia over another dude who ia originally had no idea about but whose play i just hated. I find it simply unbelieveable you actually believe that.
He voted Palmar who he knows can't play on a weekend based on absolutely 0 content and said it was a definitive scum read based on nothing.
This is a blantant lie. I did not vote for Palmar based on 0 content, that's just simply untrue.
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On June 12 2018 08:34 TheSlenderMan wrote:
I also want to mention that the possibility of a kitaman-rayn Scum-duo is something my gut finds plausible.
Here is another thing i find almost impossible to believe someone believes to be true. So you might want to elaborate on this Slendy.
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On June 12 2018 14:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:There is no such thing as medic dodge in this game.Why aren't you dead Holyflare? Also explain me this: Show nested quote +He made a case on kita that made him "definitely mafiaa", that went nowhere and he forgot all about it or certainly didn't want to push it over a palmar read that's based off of one post and shit. Yeah i did that. It doesn't make me mafia. You are very very likely lying here since we just came out of a game where i decided to not vote for a guy who also happened to be you who is was completely 100% certain is mafia over another dude who ia originally had no idea about but whose play i just hated. I find it simply unbelieveable you actually believe that. Show nested quote +He voted Palmar who he knows can't play on a weekend based on absolutely 0 content and said it was a definitive scum read based on nothing. This is a blantant lie. I did not vote for Palmar based on 0 content, that's just simply untrue. i dunno if this is a hardclaim, but OPTION B on the OP states a medic is possible.
I think HF point on grack is partially dismissed on the basis that grack may have tried to hammer you; though i don't know what this actually means in game context for alignment.
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Medic save doesn't do anything so medic is an useless role, why would you ever medic dodge?
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On June 12 2018 14:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Medic save doesn't do anything so medic is an useless role, why would you ever medic dodge? i genuinely dont follow this logic?
1-shot doctor enables a one-time KP protect?
Or you are arguing that game state is so murky that medic dodge is pointless?
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On June 12 2018 14:10 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2018 14:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Medic save doesn't do anything so medic is an useless role, why would you ever medic dodge? i genuinely dont follow this logic? 1-shot doctor enables a one-time KP protect? Or you are arguing that game state is so murky that medic dodge is pointless?
LYLO comes the same day regardless of if someone is saved or not so effectively a medic save does nothing.
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wait i miscounted, nevermind. :D
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On June 12 2018 14:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2018 14:10 Mocsta wrote:On June 12 2018 14:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Medic save doesn't do anything so medic is an useless role, why would you ever medic dodge? i genuinely dont follow this logic? 1-shot doctor enables a one-time KP protect? Or you are arguing that game state is so murky that medic dodge is pointless? LYLO comes the same day regardless of if someone is saved or not so effectively a medic save does nothing. dayam, next level thinking there.
Without save
11-3 -> ML1 + NK= 9-3 -> ML2 + NK = 7-3 -> ML3 + NK= 5-3 -> ML4 + NK = 3-3 = LYLO
With save
11-3 -> ML1 = 10-3 -> ML2 + NK = 8-3 -> ML3 + NK = 6-3 -> ML4 + NK = 4-3 = LYLO
excellent point.
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Anyways, i am just going to say that if Holyflare still believes i am mafia i am going to entertain lynching myself but then you must lynch him after since he is mafia 100%. Rels knows why!
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