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On May 20 2018 07:40 GlowingBear wrote: I didn't receive any confirmation PM but I'm confirmed. kthxbai | ||
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Stop with it already plz? :D | ||
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11. Jealous 9. fuba 6. LightningStrike 2. GlowingBear 4. darthfoley 5. Holyflare 7. Koshi 12. Eversince 3. Grackaroni 10. Rels newbie is excused ofc. | ||
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I don't even know if we are 9v3 or 8v3 but it's gonna be hard anyways so how about we figure out shit fast? | ||
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It really gets annoyng after a while when you have to double decipher someone's posts. | ||
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after this i will just vote if there are no words. | ||
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##vote Holyflare this is so right. | ||
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"I made an opening to comment on stuff on the fly when i read the thread but then i decided to stop onto this post when the thread is like 20 posts in total". :D 2 mafia down boyzz. | ||
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On May 25 2018 10:50 GlowingBear wrote: I kinda agree. We can start lynching rayn and holyflare. We keep jealous because images in forum mafia make this more fun to play. LS I'll never know, but seems like honest LS we all know, which means could be town. Grackaroni NAI opening. darthfoley NAI opening. too late you are scum go die. | ||
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yeah i am not sure, start makeing sense if you are town. right now you say this guy did X that makes him scum (well you are not even saying that lol)..... | ||
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On May 25 2018 10:50 GlowingBear wrote: I kinda agree. We can start lynching rayn and holyflare. We keep jealous because images in forum mafia make this more fun to play. LS I'll never know, but seems like honest LS we all know, which means could be town. Grackaroni NAI opening. darthfoley NAI opening. for reference. worst post 100%, says nothing. | ||
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On May 25 2018 11:02 GlowingBear wrote: OK rayn, I'll be serious now. Care to explain where my reasoning on why HF could be mafia is wrong? uh what? | ||
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On May 25 2018 11:05 GlowingBear wrote: I'm just typing as words comes to my mind I'm kinda euphoric right now And I'm not a native speaker. Also not a very good english speaker at all. Me neither, it's not an excuse though. | ||
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On May 25 2018 11:07 GlowingBear wrote: I said HF could be mafia because: If he is town and has time, he will comment on stuff. If he is town and has no time, he won't even have time comment he has no time. Therefore, he might be mafia. Because we all know that coming to the thread and communicating you're town means nothing. I have absolutely no idea where this translates into "he can be mafia". Well anyone can be mafia for sure but... for this? | ||
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On May 25 2018 11:08 GlowingBear wrote: Now that I read it again, it's actually pretty clear I'm saying he might be town. ah yes, you did have to read it again to make sure what you said? | ||
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On May 25 2018 11:10 GlowingBear wrote: Tell me why someone who has no time comes to the thread to communicate he is town and has no time to read a ONE PAGE GAME? now you're using my argument and painting it as yours  | ||
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On May 25 2018 11:14 GlowingBear wrote: No, your argument is that he didn't pick up a shitpost you claim you made on purpose. My argument is that if he is town he would either play the game or simply not post a single post until he has time. well that argument of yours is terrible. | ||
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On May 25 2018 11:15 GlowingBear wrote: I didn't like your bait post. Looked forced to me. which one? | ||
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On May 25 2018 11:19 Grackaroni wrote: I have no opinion on this fight whatsoever. yo you have an opinion on another fight? | ||
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##vote Jealuos | ||
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On May 25 2018 11:33 LightningStrike wrote: you guys were the only ones that entered and got null on grack, hf, and babo atm hopefully more posts from the others come soon. So if i am calling HF scum and you do not think that's the case then why am i town? | ||
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Dont care, you either play word game with words or i hold the game hostage like you do. | ||
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On May 25 2018 11:37 LightningStrike wrote: You actually trying to get discussions going and trying to push people who you tohught were mafia and had a natural progression on GB (starting from scumreading him into townreading him the way it happened seemed really organic i nterms of progression) Can you explain me what i do as mafia? | ||
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On May 25 2018 11:39 LightningStrike wrote: Ya at least going off my memory but it been I think about 1.5 years since we played together though so I might be a bit fuzzy on that. Best meta is fuzzy meta yay! | ||
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thxbye | ||
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ah i know, i am also gonna talk in codes for the rest of the game. XCXVXCUISJ SS SDSRUI. ok? | ||
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On May 25 2018 12:01 LightningStrike wrote: Oh it sounded like you two were aruging about his read on me lol. CXVNXCVNUIDH SJDASJDCNMC DD | ||
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On May 25 2018 20:03 Rels wrote: this rage is townie :p rayn, the pictures are awesome and pretty understandable That is not the problem. The problem is i can't tell reasoning or even how strongly he feels about the stuff he comments on. You can never add that to pictures and it is a crucial element of this game. His posts basically are "this happened and i think it means X". It doesnt really say anything. | ||
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On May 26 2018 06:13 GlowingBear wrote: Rayn, care to answer HF's suspicions on you? Not really. He is scum though. | ||
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On May 26 2018 19:43 Rels wrote: rayn talk to me when you're there I am here. | ||
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On May 26 2018 22:03 Rels wrote: good. Are you serious about that HF scumread, or did you just stop playing after Jealous bothered you ? I don't think HF not picking up your post makes him anything. Yeah i am. I will try to explain it better when i am home. But nevertheless i am not going to switch my vote unless Jealous starts playing properly, so ppl just have to do something about it, unless you wanna play with one less townie votewise. Well he could even be mafia but ita kinda imposaible to tell atm. | ||
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On May 26 2018 22:47 Grackaroni wrote: Rayn do you think Koshi is town or am I bad? I'm asking you because I respect your ability to read him. Idk. I have a problem with his post where he calls GB town for "picking a fight with me" but then he doesnt know if i am town or mafia. Like if i am not town it doesnt man shit, and as he says he thinks i may not be then how can he make that read on GB? | ||
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On May 26 2018 23:58 Grackaroni wrote: I guess but the chance of both you and Glowingbear being scum and instigating that argument at the start of the game seems so low to begin with that I'm ok with him discounting the SvS scenario. Its his reasoning whhat i have a problem with. If he had said what you just said i wouldnt have a problem with it. Otherwise Koshi seems fine. | ||
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It is the way he responds (or doesn't) to my posts. First is the thing where i posted this line; "Okay for real is there anyone who wants to play the game on the following hour or not? I don't even know if we are 9v3 or 8v3 but it's gonna be hard anyways so how about we figure out shit fast?" Glowingbear was kindish of right that this one is a shitpost, because i intentionally wrote it in a very "fluffy" way and i also didn't even bother to check if there are 11 or 12 players in the game, which is something i could have easily done just if i wanted to. Instead i decided to just write some fluff with "encouraging" words,, Which is why, i don't remember who asked (maybe GB?) yea i was telling the truth but it is still a "shitpost".The thing is HF tends to jump on this kind of stuff, either for pressure or because he thinks the poster is mafia. That is if he is town. That is also why i originally scumread him, because he didn't. In my opinion it doesn't matter how much time he has, it matters that he was 100% in the thread right after that, and he 100% read the post because there was like 1 page of posts. The way he (didn't) react to the post makes me think he is mafia, it doesn't fit his town MO. Second thing is this post. On May 25 2018 19:32 Holyflare wrote: I don't think rayn's progression is towny. He goes from calling me mafia for shit reasons (that I didn't call out his post...? Hyper aware) to then calling out gb for also calling me mafia but he doesn't actually weigh up on gb's alignment and instead just attacks gb for an argument that is basically the same thing as his (at least he thought it was so why on earth was he initially attacking it?). Then he votes jealous and gets mad and talks in codes for absolutely no reason. Looks like his pushes flopped and he's just clutching at straws for a reason to do not much imo. There are many things wrong with this particular post. In fact it's the whole post that doesn't make any sense lol. I don't go "from calling him mafia" to anywhere, because i am not calling Jealous mafia. I am simply just policy voting him until he begins to play properly, it's that simple. I have absolutely no idea where that GB thing comes from because my argument with GB was completely unrelated to HF. My progression on GB is really easy to figure out but somehow HF groups this up with my read on him, which once again doesn't make any sense. The only thing i didn't continue with the "push" on HF was because there was nothing else to be said onto the matter, not to even mention most likely noone is going to understand why i think what i do. Furthermore there is the completely nonsense stuff on my "read"/vote on Jealous because it is -- once again -- very easy to see why i am voting for him, and it is also very easy to see i don't actually think he is even necessarily mafia. It is because i simply don't want to decipher his posts twice, his posts will always lack reasoning, and if he is mafia it is very easy to hide behind pictures to NOT post actual reasoning, and i don't like it. I don't know why this is painted as some weird terrible "retracting from a push" because it is quite clear i have never even TRIED to "push" anyone in that sense during this game. One other thing, Holyflare likes to lynch me and push me for lynch when he thinks i am mafia. This fact coupled with the above doesn't fit his town MO because he ACTUALLY seems to be thinking i am mafia but he isn't really doing anything with it, in a town!HF way. Rels knows this "no opinions, only facts" thing, it's pretty common for HF to act that wayand push stuff like it was truth even though he isn't even sure of it. That isn't happening right now, the scumread on me and the way he handles this is way too soft. I tend to be pretty good with this kinda stuff, unless it's sicklucker in question lol. GB and LS are town, that's quite simple. Maybe Grackaroni is town too, i thought he could be town early on for the no fucks given attitude, then changed my mind and now i am changing my mind again. I will probably read him better tomorrow, i don't think i have time for that today -- i mean to make a judgement call that i will trust enough. Koshi i already talked about. Rels sounds town but could be mafia too, not lynching him D1 though. df's psot was terrible because he most likely calls 3 townies mafia and the reasoning for every of his read is pretty fucking crap. It's like he is trying to play the game without actually having thought anything anyone has said in the game for real (see for example my "Jealous scumread")... Mafia or terrible. I have a bit mixed feelings on byj, on the other hand i know a lot of people who play this style of mafia where "you can't tell anything before flips so maybe no-lynch", but then it bothers me he simply ditches that thought process after LS tells him he should vote. I mean i get the LS vote quite well from his perspective but since then he has changed vote and that i don't get anymore that well. I keep thinking why would he do that as mafia, because noone was "blaming him" for playing "i dont wanna lynch anyone" - card?? idk, gun to head i'd say town. Maybe like 55% town. I don't have pretty much anything on fuba. I thought this post: On May 25 2018 13:45 fuba wrote: I don't think scum has participated heavily yet. No one talking a lot has set off any alarm bells. GB v Rayn feels town v town. I think GB seems genuine, and I kinda like his reasoning on HF (enough to lean very lightly scum on HF). I'm a fan of jealous's drawings but I can understand rayn voting him for them. I can get behind GB's grack vote, but not for the reason he said. I just think it's pointless to come in and say "I have no thoughts.". I have to reread LS, because I feel like he's posted an ok amount but I can't remember anything he's really said. My vote would currently be on grack, lurker, or a distant HF. ..sounded townie but i was pretty tired yesterday and i can't remember anymore why. | ||
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On May 26 2018 23:25 Grackaroni wrote: Grackaroni's reads list: Town lean: Rels - His attitude seems townie to me. I think Rels is more of an aggressive questioner as scum. Raynpelikoneet - I don't think Rayn is pushing a mafia agenda. He's sticking with his Holyflare read that convinced absolutely nobody earlier and is bitching about Jealous posting pictures. I think he's acting like more of a grumpy townie than mafia and is playing in a way that will make people want to vote him for reasons that don't actually make him more likely to be mafia. Koshi - I liked his posts earlier. Probably won't vote today: GlowingBear - I liked the posts + narrative that Koshi highlighted for Glowing bear as a reason to town read him instead of any of his actual content, but I'm not really very familiar with Glowingbear so meh. No opinion: darthfoley LightningStrike fuba Jealous byj Holyflare nah nevermind, i don't think this post comes from mafia. | ||
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On May 27 2018 02:46 Holyflare wrote: If you've afked half the game (been at work or whatever) to say your scum read on me still stands just because you think I thought you were scum reading jealous then wtf rayn when has your mafia game become so poor and misconstrue-y? But yeah if you don't think i went to calling Jealous mafia then i have even less idea what you're talking about because i simply didn't go anywhere as you suggested. Like simply put, you're doing things wrong and it doesn't sound town!wrong. It's okay for you though since noone will most likely believe me but that's something i don't really care about. | ||
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On May 27 2018 03:00 Holyflare wrote: my post you quoted says you went from mafia reading me to policy reading jealous because you're burnt out as playing as mafia? it's quite simple lol Well it it just untrue and and very simple minded. | ||
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On May 27 2018 03:06 Holyflare wrote: so your changed argument on me was that "HF as town pushes things he doesn't believe as if he does believe them to create pressure" it suddenly disappears lol? i am sorry i was being nice, let me rephrase that; it is just untrue and a fucking shit argument. | ||
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On May 27 2018 03:14 Holyflare wrote: this is EXACTLY like your argument in that one mafia game that I can't find of yours it probably is tbh. | ||
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On May 27 2018 03:22 Holyflare wrote: I'm willing to put my reputation on the line that grackaroni is mafia after looking at his past games please go on. | ||
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On May 26 2018 10:28 LightningStrike wrote: Seriously no one is talking what the fuck happened since my days of actively playing mafia? This is usper depressing for me I wish Ian and tina was playing this game just to get more pages into this thread >.< I also lol'd super hard onto this. Not in a bad way for Damdred but still. | ||
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On May 27 2018 03:41 GlowingBear wrote: Grack's post was three town reads, a null read and no scum read. You don't think it was bad? The thing is, there are arguments for and against you. Why doesn't he take a stand on you if he is mafia? It's very easy to agree with one side instead of being on neither side of things (regardless of your alignment). The way he presented the read on you also looks "bad", or well.. "scummy" because yeah, just because what is said of it. But imo the fact is grack would have an easier time to make up something else instead of what he did, as mafia, regardless of your alignment. Also yeah the lack of scumreads, well just read the above, i'll go with the same reasoning. Like... Do you think mafia makes this post and doesn't consider "does this look bad on me or not when i give zero scumreads?" because i don't. And yeah as Rels said it's completely different from DF's post which was just well.. full of nonsense for nonsense reasons. | ||
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On May 27 2018 03:55 GlowingBear wrote: We could also agree that achieving "too scum to be scum" reads is a very comfortable place to be as mafia. It's a route I took countless times while playing as scum. But I admit you can be right on this, and I'm going to rethink. The thing is basically noone does think like that as mafia because you can't predict what people will do. I mean like it is easy to tell Grackaroni is either trying to play as town or trying to look like he is playing as scum, right? So that's the difference, the post in itself is never a "hey maybe i make this too scummy to be scum post to get myself read like that by townies". Like you could argue for example some of my posts could be trying to achieve that, but not that particular post from him. | ||
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He means why do you not know there is a doctor in the game if you read the OP before the game? | ||
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2nd psot: "GB is ACTUALLY town, this is my final decision" 3rd psot: "you know actually GB is town" yeaaaahhh... | ||
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On May 27 2018 04:28 Holyflare wrote: oh nvm just click it, it's the same posts but different reads and? | ||
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On May 25 2018 21:52 Koshi wrote: Imo town. Small sentence. But I can see gb believe rayn is forcing it and I can believe gb is enjoying him here. Both as town gb. Mafia gb going head on vs town rayn posting this sentence is brave play. So I will run with town gb for now. On May 26 2018 04:44 Koshi wrote: I would agree more with you if GB didnt went head on against rayn. If one is trying to play buddy buddy as mafia, one does not clynch with rayn and lick on LS. As mafia you more likely do the opposite. Both of the red parts are based on the assumption that i am town, otherwise it doesn't make any sense, but then:; rayn dnu. Going to let him play. I didnt like 1 thing though. Forgot what it was. Something he attacked somebody for that was dumb on his part. So one of the reasons GB is town is because mafia!GB doesn't go after town!rayn (which is also bs btw) but then he doesn't know if i am town or mafia (so why can't like.. we both be mafia for example??). And this was not an off-hand comment, he even said it TWICE. | ||
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On May 27 2018 04:35 Holyflare wrote: If he's making a thoughtful read on GB's posts then why are the same posts reaching different conclusions............? Looks like he's just arbitrarily assigning pictures. so you're going to wait for another picture to "clear that up" or? the next one after? or after? I thought his pictures were quite clear and understandable, or what? ................. | ||
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Anyways Koshi top scum, still not changing my vote, either Jealous helps me doing it, or other townies help me doing it, or i am effectively +1 mafia vote unless ofc he is mafia. dealwithit. | ||
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On May 27 2018 04:52 fuba wrote: Finally caught up. Sorry - I'm moving in a week and spent all day yesterday getting things set up :/ Only real thing that stuck out about ls to me is that he keeps commenting on people not participating, but hasn't voted. Not definitive, but doesn't make me feel particularly good about him. I liked kpshi originally, but I really like your case on him. Is there a reason you said you need to reread LS and then made a series of posts about not LS? I mean the last time you were around and posted. | ||
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On May 25 2018 13:45 fuba wrote: I don't think scum has participated heavily yet. No one talking a lot has set off any alarm bells. GB v Rayn feels town v town. I think GB seems genuine, and I kinda like his reasoning on HF (enough to lean very lightly scum on HF). I'm a fan of jealous's drawings but I can understand rayn voting him for them. I can get behind GB's grack vote, but not for the reason he said. I just think it's pointless to come in and say "I have no thoughts.". I have to reread LS, because I feel like he's posted an ok amount but I can't remember anything he's really said. My vote would currently be on grack, lurker, or a distant HF. Like in your filter you said this, especially the bolded part. Then you go to work. Then when you come back after, you make some comments on other stuff. Because i think the thing you said you wanted to do is LS, and that should result to something. Did you not do it after all or what? | ||
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So how can you have those two thoughts simultaneously? | ||
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Koshi mafia. | ||
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On May 27 2018 08:06 Holyflare wrote: I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT WORKED fu................... | ||
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Did you lynch mafia? | ||
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I am waiting for the things he has to say about this game trn. go. | ||
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then dont blame me. | ||
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Havent had a chance to read anything after flip. And wont until tomorrow morning. Pay attention to df because now he should have completely re-evaluated his reads since his 2 out of 3 scumreada just lynched hia one of top towns who ended up being mafia. Same goes to some extent to gb who called me and grack mafia. Koshi is just prolly scum. Didnt like byj disppearing after rels had a question to him. | ||
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well gg, couldnt have rels early on. | ||
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On June 05 2018 12:06 darthfoley wrote: Can you just stop pretending to believe i'm decent at the game? You call me bad every chance you get with backhanded compliments like "you used to be better and now you're terrible." I already addressed the reasons why I didn't play the game as I normally would. I have shit way more important going on in my life than some random mafia game I signed up for in April that didn't start until a month later. Playing at a decently high level is hard when you have real life stuff going on and a full time job. Don't know how you're trying to blame Grack for accurately saving someone lol. That takes the cake Dont sign up if you cant play. I am not expecting you to play at your "highest level" but i am expecting you to perform, which you didnt.... at all.. tbh.  I am blaming Grack for choosing to save GB over me (i was obviously going to get hit N1 lol), when GB cant get fucking anything done ever in a game while he was right on HF.... He didnt even vote in LYLO???????? plz? ban that guy already. Maybe you do not but i know GB, wow he was so townie, so was LS and you decided to lynch him for ?????????????? reasons on D3. Let people who can have an effect to the game live and dont go for big plays, i learned it the last game i was mafia. Was the GB save good? What did GB do as confirmed fucking town? afk'd? And not even got banned afking in lylo.... ridiculous. | ||
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