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are we going to have one of either setup A, B, C, or D, or were those just samples?
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On March 31 2018 09:19 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2018 05:16 ExO_ wrote:
are we going to have one of either setup A, B, C, or D, or were those just samples? yes
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XD FF I think we’re having a miscommunication. I asked if it would be one of those setups listed or it could involve any of those roles within the samples...you said yes, which could mean either yes the samples, or yes could involve any of the roles
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On April 03 2018 06:24 Fecalfeast wrote:Sure mang as it is now there's no flavour planned
Oh theres flavor planned — why dont u lick me and find out what I taste like
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On April 08 2018 06:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Mr. Eversince and Mr. Rayn (because I think you may see what I see)
Calix mafia? Y/N
Starting to read the thread and this is the first thing I see. GB asking Rayn for a read when he hasnt even been inthe thread yet. I don’t buy the idea he just decided to ask an opinion of Rayn in the hopes he’d come into the thread. I think he heard from Rayn in a QT and slipped with this post
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On April 08 2018 10:21 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2018 09:50 Vivax wrote:On April 08 2018 09:36 Damdred wrote:
I think gb is town btw Telling us he can't post for a while after posting a good amount already and it being the start of the day reads defensive to me. Yeah but why is it defensive if he is busy irl, thats kinda a meh read from you vivax. But really I feel like his thing hes doing with the thing he noticed about calix and dragging ever and rayn into it just seems town to me. Town for GB he generally cant fake enthusiasm like that as scum by my recollevtion.
Do you believe his story that he just randomly asked for Rayn who had yet to post? It doesn’t make sense to me, but you seem to believe it without question
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On April 09 2018 01:02 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2018 00:58 ExO_ wrote:On April 08 2018 06:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Mr. Eversince and Mr. Rayn (because I think you may see what I see)
Calix mafia? Y/N
Starting to read the thread and this is the first thing I see. GB asking Rayn for a read when he hasnt even been inthe thread yet. I don’t buy the idea he just decided to ask an opinion of Rayn in the hopes he’d come into the thread. I think he heard from Rayn in a QT and slipped with this post You can be town for this post. But I don't agree with it.
I don’t know why else he would post asking for Rayn, without having any indication Rayn would even be here to respond.
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Hey guys just giving you a quick update — friend needs to go to the med center here in houston, and Ill be house sitting for a few days while she’s there. This shouldn’t affect my activity after today but im basically gone for the rest of the day.
Nothing life threatening hopefully so no need to worry. Apologies guys, see you tomorrow
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Here this morning (though really tired)
Gonna try to read through the thread and catch up now.
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On April 09 2018 20:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The more i think about it i think i am being dumb and should vote for eversince. Aside everything else said i thought eversince's read on exo could make her town bit it is in fact not so. Either theyre both mafia or she has TMI. After all exo is calling me and gb mafia for ahady reasons, both of who eversince townreads. Why is her read on exo "i liked some things exo said but i dont remember which things". Like... the read on me/gb is ALL exo has talked about.
##unvote
##vote eversince
I wanted to clarify here, what GB did still weirds me out. I still don't understand why he picked you to ask a question about, and an active player. That flow doesn't make sense to me -- ask someone currently posting in the thread and somebody who hasn't said a word yet. It feels unnatural.
I don't feel like it's really fair to you, but I can't help but feel like it's off. And I've gotten stuck on stuff like this before and been off-base. So I'm going to try to judge you based on your posts only, and GB based on things other than this strange situation.
All of that being said, I haven't been active, and think I would like to here eversince'e explanation of why I'm townie. Do you agree with what I said about GB @eversince? If so, why haven't you said anything about it.
I think for now I'm parking my vote on eversince until I get a good explanation here.
##vote eversince
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Why are/were you town reading me? @eversince
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I think HF is playing like he did in the game just prior to this (he was VT). This doesn't mean he isn't capable of posting like this as scum, but I don't think he's scum right now.
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mixed feelings on Vivax, and low post count doesn’t
help, but his thoughts on Calix and the reaction he had when Calix responded feel townie to me
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On April 09 2018 21:02 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2018 20:46 ExO_ wrote:On April 09 2018 20:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The more i think about it i think i am being dumb and should vote for eversince. Aside everything else said i thought eversince's read on exo could make her town bit it is in fact not so. Either theyre both mafia or she has TMI. After all exo is calling me and gb mafia for ahady reasons, both of who eversince townreads. Why is her read on exo "i liked some things exo said but i dont remember which things". Like... the read on me/gb is ALL exo has talked about.
##unvote
##vote eversince I wanted to clarify here, what GB did still weirds me out. I still don't understand why he picked you to ask a question about, and an active player. That flow doesn't make sense to me GlowingBear said "I remember rayn was really good with opening posts, that's why I inquired him." You might decide that he's lying or that his explanation still doesn't make sense to you, but I want to make sure you at least have seen what he already said about it.
Correct I have seen it, but have trouble swallowing that as an explanation. Why would he ask for and expect a response from a player who isnt there? It feels weird to me to ask what you think from a player reading in thread, and one who isn’t even there.
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Still no rely to me eversince — explain your town read of me earier
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On April 09 2018 21:20 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2018 20:49 ExO_ wrote:
Why are/were you town reading me? @eversince I like your outlook. You might not have much but I can see in my own head why you'd think what you do. Thus town. I can't explain farther than that :'/.
Do you agree with my thoughts on GB’s asking Rayn when Rayn wasnt there?
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On April 09 2018 21:23 Calix wrote:Took the liberty of making a vote count and town is well organised innit. Eversince, who are you gonna vote for? Would also like ExO_'s other mafia reads, or whoever he would vote for outside of his "placeholder" vote. Show nested quote +Day 1 Vote count
remaining
Eversince (3): Calix, raynpelikoneet, ExO_ Calix (2): GlowingBear, Oatsmaster Holyflare (1): currentlyhomeless GlowingBear (1): Skynx n00bking (1): Vivax Vivax (1): n00bking Skynx (1): Tubesock ExO_ (0): raynpelikoneetRaynpelikoneet (0): CalixNot Voting:Holyflare, Eversince, Damdred
Currently Eversince is set to be lynched.
Voting is mandatory! Place votes in THIS THREAD (link)
Right now I don’t think I have any scum reads I’m super confident in but I’m not a fan of Damdreds 4 posts
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On April 09 2018 21:36 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2018 21:32 ExO_ wrote:On April 09 2018 21:23 Calix wrote:Took the liberty of making a vote count and town is well organised innit. Eversince, who are you gonna vote for? Would also like ExO_'s other mafia reads, or whoever he would vote for outside of his "placeholder" vote. Day 1 Vote count
remaining
Eversince (3): Calix, raynpelikoneet, ExO_ Calix (2): GlowingBear, Oatsmaster Holyflare (1): currentlyhomeless GlowingBear (1): Skynx n00bking (1): Vivax Vivax (1): n00bking Skynx (1): Tubesock ExO_ (0): raynpelikoneetRaynpelikoneet (0): CalixNot Voting:Holyflare, Eversince, Damdred
Currently Eversince is set to be lynched.
Voting is mandatory! Place votes in THIS THREAD (link) Right now I don’t think I have any scum reads I’m super confident in but I’m not a fan of Damdreds 4 posts Don't care about 'confident' reads. It's D1. Who else do you think has "above average odds for being mafia"? Why don't you like Damdred's posts?
Damdred has essentially said nothing. He has one post greater than a sentence, and its saying that he doesnt think GB could fake enthusiam.
The Damdred I remember is wordy and analytical. He’s not present at all right now. I could see scum Damdred coasting the first couple days, and then try to make some excuse for it
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@Calix, @Vivax I think you guys need to take a step back. I think this is TvT. Don’t tunnel or start name calling.
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On April 09 2018 21:54 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax why are you mafia. So so sad.
I don’t get a scum vibe from Vivax at all. Can you explain this read in detail?
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On April 09 2018 21:58 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2018 21:56 ExO_ wrote:On April 09 2018 21:54 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax why are you mafia. So so sad. I don’t get a scum vibe from Vivax at all. Can you explain this read in detail? His evasion of his weird-arse read on me. He called my reasons for scum!rayn "false". He had also accused me of making facts up to scum-read him. WHY DOES HE THINK I'M TOWN?
The impression I get is this:
He thinks you’re wrong, but that it doesn’t make you scum. However the language both of you are using has looked like its getting more heated. In particular right now you seem really frustrated and angry Calix
I’ll take another look at Vivaxs filter but he seems towny to me. In the mean time, what do you think of Holyflare right now Calix?
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I don’t even know right now. I dont like any of the options after eversince. I switched vote to n00bking because I believe Vivax is town. Id rather be paired up with Vivax and claimed gunsmith eversince than GB and TS at this point.
Gonna filter dive skynk and n00bking right now on my lunch break
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On April 10 2018 02:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I really dont like Vivax lynch. If i have to i will save him by voting Skynx but i dont really think he is mafia either. I would suggest strongly against voting for Calix. I have no idea about what noobking is because i dont rrally feel like he has said much anything.
Glowingbear started being terr8ble but thats probably town terrible.
I still want to lynch exo for what i have said earlier.
##unvote
##vote exo_
Enlighten me, why do you want to lynch me? I have 20 minutes left on my lunch.
And side note trying to read n00bking filter is obonoxious as hell. I’ve never quite seen somebody consantly feel the need to use 20 words when 2 would suffice. Loves to bash TL mafia and toot his own horn like he’s the second coming in TL mafia, but isn’t really helping anybody. Its very hard to be objective towards him with this attitude. And any good player would know that constantly filling the thread with your own ego is more of a distraction to town than it is helping them.
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I think HF is town. His anger after the vote at Calix is something I don't think Mafia would be able to fake that well.
I think eversince is telling the truth. A reading mistake like that is exactly the kind of thing that would happen to me. I think he should have to announce who he is passing the gun to in the thread, and have the player he passes it to confirm they receive it.
In this case I think he should give it to HF, as I fully believe he's town. If HF doesn't get the gun, we lynch eversince.
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On April 10 2018 20:09 Calix wrote:
Actually Exo post scummy because he’s trying to make night actions really obvious. And he wants Eversince lynched if Hf doesn’t get gun which ignores RBer possibility.
I am not voting in poll. And people shouldn’t waste time discussing about guns.
I think deciding whether or not eversince is really gunsmith is worth the time. And I think your voting at the end of day yesterday was really damn weird. Ending by unvoting at the end makes no sense to me whatsoever.
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The more I read your filter Calix the less I like. You have a lot of posts, and it makes me hesitate. However at the end of day yesterday you didn't seem to care at all. A lot of your posts have been heavily argumentative and geared towards upsetting other players and I think distracting them.
Post like this:
On April 10 2018 04:40 Calix wrote:"I told you so" after a mislynch is quite scummy, good sir. Flipping your read on me from super-town to super-mafia because I...took a warning over simply voting for someone...makes no sense.
You stop short of calling HF scum here. You say his action is scummy but don't call him scum. Like wtf is that?
I'm not sure who else I'd pair you with right now, but you're at the top of my scum list right now.
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I think if HF doesn't get gun we cross that bridge then. I think for now the plan should be for eversince to pass a gun to HF, and if that happens eversince is confirmed town. I'm willing to put enough in my belief that HF is town that if HF say he has a gun ES and HF are confirmed town.
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On April 10 2018 20:27 Calix wrote:
Like Exo, you have not made waves with any of your posts. You only make safe reads like calling 4 post Damdred mafia and now agreeing with most of thread that I am mafia. There is nothing risky about anything you have said for entire game. You seem content to sit back and not game solve.
You even admit you have no other scum reads outside of me.
Okay so call me scum then -- make a case. You're hesitating on the last part quite a bit. You've been hesitating a lot throughout the game
Look at your post history -- you try to get others to join you on things like a wagon on me for example towards EoD, without placing your own vote there. It's almost as if you didn't care who was lynched at the end of day.
And quite frankly, your posts have a very negative tone. I'm not sure if this is intentional, but it comes across as very abrasive.
Lastly, I think its bullshit to say I'm doing nothing risky. The hell do you want me to do that's risky? What kind of read right now would be risky -- and how does making a "risky" read make me townier? I don't have all day to read the thread, but to say I'm not trying to solve the game is wrong.
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Rayn shouldn't just be given a pass. I reread page 3 and 4 of his filter -- and he hardly contributed anything. He wanted to lynch me because he disagreed with my reasoning when I entered the thread:
On April 09 2018 18:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:I think i wnat to do this. ##vote ExO_The timing of this post added to what i said here: Show nested quote +On April 09 2018 16:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 09 2018 00:58 ExO_ wrote:On April 08 2018 06:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Mr. Eversince and Mr. Rayn (because I think you may see what I see)
Calix mafia? Y/N
Starting to read the thread and this is the first thing I see. GB asking Rayn for a read when he hasnt even been inthe thread yet. I don’t buy the idea he just decided to ask an opinion of Rayn in the hopes he’d come into the thread. I think he heard from Rayn in a QT and slipped with this post This is actually the most terrible single post in thread: - follow thread sentiment, check - make up your own reason so you look like you're doing something, check - doesn't make any sense at all, check seems like a very convenient thing to do as mafia. I am quite sure he was just trying to follow the thread sentiment with his "own added reasoning". But, once again, the reasoning never makes any sense.
I read this post as saying my reasoning never makes sense, and thus he's scum reading me for it. But if my reasoning doesn't ever make sense (aka last game) when I was town, why am I scum for it now?
Furthermore he was happy to just park his vote on me and afk, and do nothing else towards EoD. He's said hardly anything sense.
I think I Calix/Rayn are two scum.
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On April 10 2018 20:39 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 20:33 ExO_ wrote:On April 10 2018 20:27 Calix wrote:
Like Exo, you have not made waves with any of your posts. You only make safe reads like calling 4 post Damdred mafia and now agreeing with most of thread that I am mafia. There is nothing risky about anything you have said for entire game. You seem content to sit back and not game solve.
You even admit you have no other scum reads outside of me. Okay so call me scum then -- make a case. You're hesitating on the last part quite a bit. You've been hesitating a lot throughout the game Look at your post history -- you try to get others to join you on things like a wagon on me for example towards EoD, without placing your own vote there. It's almost as if you didn't care who was lynched at the end of day. And quite frankly, your posts have a very negative tone. I'm not sure if this is intentional, but it comes across as very abrasive. Lastly, I think its bullshit to say I'm doing nothing risky. The hell do you want me to do that's risky? What kind of read right now would be risky -- and how does making a "risky" read make me townier? I don't have all day to read the thread, but to say I'm not trying to solve the game is wrong. Your tone seems to have shifted dramatically after being called out. I’ve made my case. Several times. Doesn’t need to be a long case. You accuse me of being disruptive but you’re also not sure if my “abrasiveness” is AI? Internal inconsistency detected. It’s not just what reads you have, it’s how you present/push them. And I don’t get the sense you care all that much about them. Like this post is the most passionate one you have made all game.
My tone has shifted dramatically after being called again -- I disagree, but again does this make me scum? Are you scum reading me or not? I'm not really sure because you aren't calling me scum. You want to call me out for not caring about reads, but you aren't willing to call me scum right now even. AKA you know I'm town and don't want to commit to a scum read on me.
wtf do you mean by the AI line? You're being disruptive and your posts are very abrasive. What is hard to understand here, and where does the AI line come from?
I don't give a shit about whether or not you agree or disagree with my reads. I'm not a super great player who can read others -- I don't think I've ever found scum day 1. So I'm sorry if I'm not making a case complete with great evidence and reads from past games, I'm not that player.
You seem to be far more guilty of not sticking to reads and actually commit to them, than I am.
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On April 10 2018 20:48 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 20:41 ExO_ wrote:Rayn shouldn't just be given a pass. I reread page 3 and 4 of his filter -- and he hardly contributed anything. He wanted to lynch me because he disagreed with my reasoning when I entered the thread: On April 09 2018 18:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:I think i wnat to do this. ##vote ExO_The timing of this post added to what i said here: On April 09 2018 16:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 09 2018 00:58 ExO_ wrote:On April 08 2018 06:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Mr. Eversince and Mr. Rayn (because I think you may see what I see)
Calix mafia? Y/N
Starting to read the thread and this is the first thing I see. GB asking Rayn for a read when he hasnt even been inthe thread yet. I don’t buy the idea he just decided to ask an opinion of Rayn in the hopes he’d come into the thread. I think he heard from Rayn in a QT and slipped with this post This is actually the most terrible single post in thread: - follow thread sentiment, check - make up your own reason so you look like you're doing something, check - doesn't make any sense at all, check seems like a very convenient thing to do as mafia. I am quite sure he was just trying to follow the thread sentiment with his "own added reasoning". But, once again, the reasoning never makes any sense. I read this post as saying my reasoning never makes sense, and thus he's scum reading me for it. But if my reasoning doesn't ever make sense (aka last game) when I was town, why am I scum for it now? Furthermore he was happy to just park his vote on me and afk, and do nothing else towards EoD. He's said hardly anything sense. I think I Calix/Rayn are two scum. Another reactive read but sure I’ll take baby steps. You are also breaking every IRONY meter within ten metres. You STILL have not explained your afk vote on noob????? Yet you call Rayn mafia for behaviour YOU did!
Right before I voted, the votes looked something like this:
Vivax (3): n00bKing, Holyflare, Calix, Glowingbear
Eversince (1): Calix, raynpelikoneet, ExO_
Calix (2): GlowingBear, Oatsmaster, Damdred
Holyflare (1): currentlyhomeless
GlowingBear (1): Skynx
n00bking (2): Vivax, Eversince,
Skynx (3): Tubesock, Glowingbear, Vivax
ExO_ (0): raynpelikoneet
Raynpelikoneet (0): Calix
Not Voting (0):
I do not, and did not think Vivax was scum. I was not a big fan of voting with GB on Skynx. I filter dove n00b and didn't like what I saw. I was on my phone during my lunch break but you can see my post on this here:
+ Show Spoiler +On April 10 2018 02:41 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 02:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I really dont like Vivax lynch. If i have to i will save him by voting Skynx but i dont really think he is mafia either. I would suggest strongly against voting for Calix. I have no idea about what noobking is because i dont rrally feel like he has said much anything.
Glowingbear started being terr8ble but thats probably town terrible.
I still want to lynch exo for what i have said earlier.
##unvote
##vote exo_ Enlighten me, why do you want to lynch me? I have 20 minutes left on my lunch. And side note trying to read n00bking filter is obonoxious as hell. I’ve never quite seen somebody consantly feel the need to use 20 words when 2 would suffice. Loves to bash TL mafia and toot his own horn like he’s the second coming in TL mafia, but isn’t really helping anybody. Its very hard to be objective towards him with this attitude. And any good player would know that constantly filling the thread with your own ego is more of a distraction to town than it is helping them.
So I voted for n00b. I find it hard to believe if you are reading my filter closely you didn't see my progression here.
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On April 10 2018 20:56 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 20:46 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 20:35 Tubesock wrote:On April 10 2018 20:11 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 20:06 Tubesock wrote:On April 10 2018 20:03 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 19:59 Tubesock wrote:
Voted Calex.
Calex and Skynx are my top scum. Not sure on the third. This would be less offensive if you hadn’t spelled my name wrong lol. Ouch, I’ve been misspelling it all game! Apologies tru Since I think you are probably town kindly humour me for a moment. Imagine mod comes down and confirms me town. Who do you look into next? Thunderstorm rolling through so internet is moody. Skynx is too scum for me. CurrentlyHomeless is completely unreadable so we have to figure out how to get rid of him. I think the last mafia would be in Damdred, or Exo. I think I’m pretty confident HF is town. In the next few days I’ll reevaluate Rayn, GB, Oats. There’s always one in my townpile. But I think more votes and night kills help figure that out. HF has stepped up in my opinion. So probably won’t relook at him till d3 when I wonder why he’s alive. What do you think of Exo vs moi? I disagree with Skynx. He seemed genuinely lost to me at EOD. And I think if he was mafia he’d have more of an idea of game state from having mafia buddies. Did you make anything of Damdred posts? I am having a hard time with reads right now. I might throw most of them out and start D2 clear. I might even have to filter dive properly. Because right now I have good odds of being lynched. Most people think I am mafia. But I know I am a ML so have to use info well and can’t slack off. On phone so please excuse shite grammar. I have a really tough time with your eod. I’ve only seen two people drop a vote like that and freeze. They were both mafia. I also don’t think I’d ever agree about your reasoning to jump off Vivax. That being said, Exo’s being pretty opportunistic here and I’d jump his ass pretty hard if you didn’t have that eod you did. Or I thought your reasoning was logical. Or you still held the vote. You have 55 hours or whatever to make up for it though. Exo looks more scummy than he was before. I don’t like his rayn attack either. Damdred’s been totally worthless and forgettable. He vanishes a lot due to real life though which is sad, but it’s still anti town.
Okay then what do you think of Rayn? I think he's been pretty absent this game, and generally willing to just chill and do nothing. Do you think he's town, or what and why?
I don't know Damdred's real life circumstances, but I don't think he should get a pass much longer.
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On April 10 2018 21:01 Calix wrote:
I have barely filter dived this game tbh
I don’t remember why you didn’t like GB lemme go check.
How the hell can you criticize my vote on n00b without reading my filter?!??!?!?!?
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On April 10 2018 21:07 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 21:02 ExO_ wrote:On April 10 2018 20:56 Tubesock wrote:On April 10 2018 20:46 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 20:35 Tubesock wrote:On April 10 2018 20:11 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 20:06 Tubesock wrote:On April 10 2018 20:03 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 19:59 Tubesock wrote:
Voted Calex.
Calex and Skynx are my top scum. Not sure on the third. This would be less offensive if you hadn’t spelled my name wrong lol. Ouch, I’ve been misspelling it all game! Apologies tru Since I think you are probably town kindly humour me for a moment. Imagine mod comes down and confirms me town. Who do you look into next? Thunderstorm rolling through so internet is moody. Skynx is too scum for me. CurrentlyHomeless is completely unreadable so we have to figure out how to get rid of him. I think the last mafia would be in Damdred, or Exo. I think I’m pretty confident HF is town. In the next few days I’ll reevaluate Rayn, GB, Oats. There’s always one in my townpile. But I think more votes and night kills help figure that out. HF has stepped up in my opinion. So probably won’t relook at him till d3 when I wonder why he’s alive. What do you think of Exo vs moi? I disagree with Skynx. He seemed genuinely lost to me at EOD. And I think if he was mafia he’d have more of an idea of game state from having mafia buddies. Did you make anything of Damdred posts? I am having a hard time with reads right now. I might throw most of them out and start D2 clear. I might even have to filter dive properly. Because right now I have good odds of being lynched. Most people think I am mafia. But I know I am a ML so have to use info well and can’t slack off. On phone so please excuse shite grammar. I have a really tough time with your eod. I’ve only seen two people drop a vote like that and freeze. They were both mafia. I also don’t think I’d ever agree about your reasoning to jump off Vivax. That being said, Exo’s being pretty opportunistic here and I’d jump his ass pretty hard if you didn’t have that eod you did. Or I thought your reasoning was logical. Or you still held the vote. You have 55 hours or whatever to make up for it though. Exo looks more scummy than he was before. I don’t like his rayn attack either. Damdred’s been totally worthless and forgettable. He vanishes a lot due to real life though which is sad, but it’s still anti town. Okay then what do you think of Rayn? I think he's been pretty absent this game, and generally willing to just chill and do nothing. Do you think he's town, or what and why? I don't know Damdred's real life circumstances, but I don't think he should get a pass much longer. I’ve been saying he’s town all game. My reasonings haven’t changed at all. I’m willing to bet his “chill and do nothing” is him living a life outside of mafia. Otherwise known as just busy. And frankly, you can not criticize him for not being around all the time.
On the contrary, I think his read on me is weak, but towards EoD and since he hasn't done very much. He kinda afked his vote on me and left.
I get having a life outside of mafia, but this Rayn doesn't seem like Town Rayn trying to solve the game.
Humor me -- based on the past 24 hours, why do you think Rayn is town?
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On April 10 2018 21:08 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 21:03 ExO_ wrote:On April 10 2018 21:01 Calix wrote:
I have barely filter dived this game tbh
I don’t remember why you didn’t like GB lemme go check. How the hell can you criticize my vote on n00b without reading my filter?!??!?!?!? I saw you place a vote in vote thread without posting in game thread duh. Do you really think I am going to lie about that unnecessarily? Anyway I checked your filter for GB stuff. You called him out fairly early but then later said you “didn’t have scum reads you were confident in” in the post you talked about Damdred. Then you say something about preferring ES to GB/TS. I didn’t get impression you were that skeeved at GB vote as opposed to you maybe sheepish ES or something but it is not entirely implausible your explanation is truthful.
You saw me place a vote in the vote thread, but didn't place a vote in the game thread:
Clear something up for me real quickly. Did you see me in real time place my vote in the vote thread?
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On April 10 2018 21:16 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 21:12 ExO_ wrote:On April 10 2018 21:08 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 21:03 ExO_ wrote:On April 10 2018 21:01 Calix wrote:
I have barely filter dived this game tbh
I don’t remember why you didn’t like GB lemme go check. How the hell can you criticize my vote on n00b without reading my filter?!??!?!?!? I saw you place a vote in vote thread without posting in game thread duh. Do you really think I am going to lie about that unnecessarily? Anyway I checked your filter for GB stuff. You called him out fairly early but then later said you “didn’t have scum reads you were confident in” in the post you talked about Damdred. Then you say something about preferring ES to GB/TS. I didn’t get impression you were that skeeved at GB vote as opposed to you maybe sheepish ES or something but it is not entirely implausible your explanation is truthful. You saw me place a vote in the vote thread, but didn't place a vote in the game thread: Clear something up for me real quickly. Did you see me in real time place my vote in the vote thread? I don’t remember when I saw your vote lol. I figured you’d come back and say something because an unexplained vote is obviously scummy and obviously looks bad if you get what I mean.
So you admitted earlier you hadn't read my filter. How would you know why I voted n00b without reading my filter? You criticized me for voting n00bking but never read my filter to see why I voted him -- and have tried to use my vote on n00b to say I'm scum.
I don't believe you. I don't believe you were waiting for an explanation for my vote on n00b, I believe you're trying to use my vote after the fact on EoD to say I was scum, when I'm not.
You're scum Calix
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On April 10 2018 21:30 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 21:25 ExO_ wrote:On April 10 2018 21:16 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 21:12 ExO_ wrote:On April 10 2018 21:08 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 21:03 ExO_ wrote:On April 10 2018 21:01 Calix wrote:
I have barely filter dived this game tbh
I don’t remember why you didn’t like GB lemme go check. How the hell can you criticize my vote on n00b without reading my filter?!??!?!?!? I saw you place a vote in vote thread without posting in game thread duh. Do you really think I am going to lie about that unnecessarily? Anyway I checked your filter for GB stuff. You called him out fairly early but then later said you “didn’t have scum reads you were confident in” in the post you talked about Damdred. Then you say something about preferring ES to GB/TS. I didn’t get impression you were that skeeved at GB vote as opposed to you maybe sheepish ES or something but it is not entirely implausible your explanation is truthful. You saw me place a vote in the vote thread, but didn't place a vote in the game thread: Clear something up for me real quickly. Did you see me in real time place my vote in the vote thread? I don’t remember when I saw your vote lol. I figured you’d come back and say something because an unexplained vote is obviously scummy and obviously looks bad if you get what I mean. So you admitted earlier you hadn't read my filter. How would you know why I voted n00b without reading my filter? You criticized me for voting n00bking but never read my filter to see why I voted him -- and have tried to use my vote on n00b to say I'm scum. I don't believe you. I don't believe you were waiting for an explanation for my vote on n00b, I believe you're trying to use my vote after the fact on EoD to say I was scum, when I'm not. You're scum Calix Shallow analysis at best. “Trying to use my vote after the fact on EOD to say I was scum” is generic. Can be said about anything. You haven’t really shown why it would come from mafia me over town me. And there is nothing scummy about spotting a vote without a thread post, saying “that looks obviously scummy” post lynch and deciding to wait for a response from you.
my filter was not large. Town questioning my vote on n00b would care why I voted n00b and read my filter. Scum wouldn’t care and would just throw suspicion on me and “wait for my response”
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On April 10 2018 21:35 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 21:25 ExO_ wrote:On April 10 2018 21:16 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 21:12 ExO_ wrote:On April 10 2018 21:08 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 21:03 ExO_ wrote:On April 10 2018 21:01 Calix wrote:
I have barely filter dived this game tbh
I don’t remember why you didn’t like GB lemme go check. How the hell can you criticize my vote on n00b without reading my filter?!??!?!?!? I saw you place a vote in vote thread without posting in game thread duh. Do you really think I am going to lie about that unnecessarily? Anyway I checked your filter for GB stuff. You called him out fairly early but then later said you “didn’t have scum reads you were confident in” in the post you talked about Damdred. Then you say something about preferring ES to GB/TS. I didn’t get impression you were that skeeved at GB vote as opposed to you maybe sheepish ES or something but it is not entirely implausible your explanation is truthful. You saw me place a vote in the vote thread, but didn't place a vote in the game thread: Clear something up for me real quickly. Did you see me in real time place my vote in the vote thread? I don’t remember when I saw your vote lol. I figured you’d come back and say something because an unexplained vote is obviously scummy and obviously looks bad if you get what I mean. So you admitted earlier you hadn't read my filter. How would you know why I voted n00b without reading my filter? You criticized me for voting n00bking but never read my filter to see why I voted him -- and have tried to use my vote on n00b to say I'm scum. I don't believe you. I don't believe you were waiting for an explanation for my vote on n00b, I believe you're trying to use my vote after the fact on EoD to say I was scum, when I'm not. You're scum Calix .... she posted about your naked/ninja vote a longtime ago. It’s definitely not after the fact. Well, far after anyway.
This doesn’t change the core of my argument: she questioned my vote but couldn’t take the time to read my then 1.5 page filter. aka she didn’t care why I voted n00b.
She is now using the fact that n00b was town (after the fact he flipped town) to say my static vote was scummy. Aka she’s scum not concerned with understanding my motivation for posting but rather with pointing suspicion at me.
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Just waking up this morning. Did ever since give a gun to
HF?
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This whole ES nonsense is really hard to understand. I believe he’s town, one of my first games in TL mafia I fucked up on mechanics...I can believe a town ES thinks he could pass a gun off to be used that night (even though its completely wrong). However knowing there was only one KP without knowing GB is dead is really wtf. Still the question I have to ask myself here is:
Why would a scum ES not know that GB was dead, or rather make a post not claiming to not realize GB is dead? I can’t think of a good reason.
I think its much more likely ES is town playing really poorly, than scum faking it somehow.
Also wtf is Vivax in the thread during that whole conversation going “Hey HolyFlare though, he’s scum”. I don’t like it. I’ve liked Vivax a lot less day 2
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Trying to think here...going off the assumption ES is town.
1) ES announces he’s giving gun to either Calix or Rayn
now if scum team sees that what are their options.
- Role Block ES so no gun goes out, if there is RB
- Kill him and gun goes out
but what if Calix or Rayn is on scum team? They’d want that extra shot. So instead of RB him they let the gun go through, and kill either Calix or Rayn. If both Calix or Rayn is mafia they kill someone completely different.
So in short I think night actions confirm that there is a mafia RB, or that Calix and Rayn are both scum.
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On April 11 2018 20:57 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2018 20:53 ExO_ wrote:
This whole ES nonsense is really hard to understand. I believe he’s town, one of my first games in TL mafia I fucked up on mechanics...I can believe a town ES thinks he could pass a gun off to be used that night (even though its completely wrong). However knowing there was only one KP without knowing GB is dead is really wtf. Still the question I have to ask myself here is:
Why would a scum ES not know that GB was dead, or rather make a post not claiming to not realize GB is dead? I can’t think of a good reason.
I think its much more likely ES is town playing really poorly, than scum faking it somehow.
Also wtf is Vivax in the thread during that whole conversation going “Hey HolyFlare though, he’s scum”. I don’t like it. I’ve liked Vivax a lot less day 2 "guys I didn't know gb was dead so I'm definitely town" is a perfect reason to "not know" because you pretend to dumb tell. Really hate this post. You town read es but then give a legitimate reason to disregard that read (knowing there is 1kp but not on who) and then disprove yourself. I think I hate it so much that you're very likely mafia.
I don’t think I agree. I don’t think scum ES would think “this will be a great dumb claim”. Its too much in my mind. If ES was scum he would know GB is dead, and I don’t think he would be able to come up with the idea to play dumb about his death to seem like town.
I think ES is town and just not paying close attention and is making mistakes.
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I believe ES because he doesn’t feel fake to me. He’s made a lot of mistakes with mechanics and reading, and not paying attention...but I believe its not a scum faking all of it. I believe ES is town
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On April 12 2018 04:43 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 04:15 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 04:11 Holyflare wrote:
Hang on.
Es is always the kill here. If she's mafia it might confirm a sk alive too. Huh? If ES is mafia she knows there's one night kill but NOT that it was glowingbear. It might be because their shot got blocked or because mafia didn't kill glowingbear.
This would require ES as scum to assume their KP went through and not bother to read the night 1 post....on top of faking everything else. Its TOO many things that have to happen for ES to be scum that involve a combination of knowledge and faking.
It doesn’t seem likely to me. It’s like pairing water and oil, it just doesn’t mix together in my mind. I think ES far more likely is just a town struggling on TL for the first time
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On April 12 2018 05:22 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 05:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:lol if mafia is just not voting at the moment  Actually possible too, lmao. Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 05:18 ExO_ wrote:On April 12 2018 04:43 Holyflare wrote:On April 12 2018 04:15 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 04:11 Holyflare wrote:
Hang on.
Es is always the kill here. If she's mafia it might confirm a sk alive too. Huh? If ES is mafia she knows there's one night kill but NOT that it was glowingbear. It might be because their shot got blocked or because mafia didn't kill glowingbear. This would require ES as scum to assume their KP went through and not bother to read the night 1 post....on top of faking everything else. Its TOO many things that have to happen for ES to be scum that involve a combination of knowledge and faking. It doesn’t seem likely to me. It’s like pairing water and oil, it just doesn’t mix together in my mind. I think ES far more likely is just a town struggling on TL for the first time Nobody said she's faking all her mistakes about Gunsmith. I think Oats is the only person who ever suggested Eversince was 'trying to act too bad to be scum' and he doesn't even think that anymore. It's been established that she could fuck up with reading comprehension as any alignment. Get with the times innit. Eversince has played more than one game on TL, lol? Why are you more focused on defending Eversince than finding scum or engaging with your scum reads?
Because I believe ES is town. I didn’t realize ES hadn’t played before on TL, I thought I read this was first time playing on TL. and I mistaken?
I’ve never been great at reading scum. Right now I’m suspicious of You, Rayn, Vivax. I think I can definetely see you and Rayn together. What I’m more certain of tho is that
HF is town, and ES is town. And I think HF thinks ES is probably scum. So I think its important I try to defend ES since I don’t think ES is scum. Other than that Ill probably be sheeping HF.
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On April 12 2018 05:24 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 05:18 ExO_ wrote:On April 12 2018 04:43 Holyflare wrote:On April 12 2018 04:15 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 04:11 Holyflare wrote:
Hang on.
Es is always the kill here. If she's mafia it might confirm a sk alive too. Huh? If ES is mafia she knows there's one night kill but NOT that it was glowingbear. It might be because their shot got blocked or because mafia didn't kill glowingbear. This would require ES as scum to assume their KP went through and not bother to read the night 1 post....on top of faking everything else. Its TOO many things that have to happen for ES to be scum that involve a combination of knowledge and faking. It doesn’t seem likely to me. It’s like pairing water and oil, it just doesn’t mix together in my mind. I think ES far more likely is just a town struggling on TL for the first time She didn't know GB died so she literally didn't read the night one post. Plz flip mafia more.
Right but thats my point...she didn’t read the night post. I dont think scum member would just skip the night post and assume their KP went through which is what would have to happen for ES to be scum.
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On April 12 2018 05:28 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 05:22 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 05:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:lol if mafia is just not voting at the moment Actually possible too, lmao. On April 12 2018 05:18 ExO_ wrote:On April 12 2018 04:43 Holyflare wrote:On April 12 2018 04:15 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 04:11 Holyflare wrote:
Hang on.
Es is always the kill here. If she's mafia it might confirm a sk alive too. Huh? If ES is mafia she knows there's one night kill but NOT that it was glowingbear. It might be because their shot got blocked or because mafia didn't kill glowingbear. This would require ES as scum to assume their KP went through and not bother to read the night 1 post....on top of faking everything else. Its TOO many things that have to happen for ES to be scum that involve a combination of knowledge and faking. It doesn’t seem likely to me. It’s like pairing water and oil, it just doesn’t mix together in my mind. I think ES far more likely is just a town struggling on TL for the first time Nobody said she's faking all her mistakes about Gunsmith. I think Oats is the only person who ever suggested Eversince was 'trying to act too bad to be scum' and he doesn't even think that anymore. It's been established that she could fuck up with reading comprehension as any alignment. Get with the times innit. Eversince has played more than one game on TL, lol? Why are you more focused on defending Eversince than finding scum or engaging with your scum reads? Because I believe ES is town. I didn’t realize ES hadn’t played before on TL, I thought I read this was first time playing on TL. and I mistaken? I’ve never been great at reading scum. Right now I’m suspicious of You, Rayn, Vivax. I think I can definetely see you and Rayn together. What I’m more certain of tho is that HF is town, and ES is town. And I think HF thinks ES is probably scum. So I think its important I try to defend ES since I don’t think ES is scum. Other than that Ill probably be sheeping HF.
ebwop *had played before on tl
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On April 12 2018 05:35 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 05:28 ExO_ wrote:On April 12 2018 05:22 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 05:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:lol if mafia is just not voting at the moment Actually possible too, lmao. On April 12 2018 05:18 ExO_ wrote:On April 12 2018 04:43 Holyflare wrote:On April 12 2018 04:15 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 04:11 Holyflare wrote:
Hang on.
Es is always the kill here. If she's mafia it might confirm a sk alive too. Huh? If ES is mafia she knows there's one night kill but NOT that it was glowingbear. It might be because their shot got blocked or because mafia didn't kill glowingbear. This would require ES as scum to assume their KP went through and not bother to read the night 1 post....on top of faking everything else. Its TOO many things that have to happen for ES to be scum that involve a combination of knowledge and faking. It doesn’t seem likely to me. It’s like pairing water and oil, it just doesn’t mix together in my mind. I think ES far more likely is just a town struggling on TL for the first time Nobody said she's faking all her mistakes about Gunsmith. I think Oats is the only person who ever suggested Eversince was 'trying to act too bad to be scum' and he doesn't even think that anymore. It's been established that she could fuck up with reading comprehension as any alignment. Get with the times innit. Eversince has played more than one game on TL, lol? Why are you more focused on defending Eversince than finding scum or engaging with your scum reads? Because I believe ES is town. I didn’t realize ES hadn’t played before on TL, I thought I read this was first time playing on TL. and I mistaken? I’ve never been great at reading scum. Right now I’m suspicious of You, Rayn, Vivax. I think I can definetely see you and Rayn together. What I’m more certain of tho is that HF is town, and ES is town. And I think HF thinks ES is probably scum. So I think its important I try to defend ES since I don’t think ES is scum. Other than that Ill probably be sheeping HF. No she's definitely played games here before. 'I've never been great at reading scum' - I call bullshit on this. I've seen you play before and you were definitely not a wimp when it came to scum-reading people. Your passive tone here is a stark contrast. Also it's obvious you're going to vote for me. I don't know why you're limping into it. It's a close tie between your town-read and your biggest scum-read and YOU'RE STILL ACTING LIKE YOU'RE DECIDING? "probably be sheeping HF" my fucking arse.
I’m not acting like I’m deciding at all, I will 100% hands down vote you over ES. Where the hell do you come off saying im acting like im deciding?
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##Vote: Calix
to make it official
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Rayn I have 5 minutes left on lunch. Ill filter dive and make the case after work, it will prob be late though. But ill do it before day ends here.
That said I find it really odd you want me to make a case on you. But I will.
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On April 12 2018 05:39 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 05:38 ExO_ wrote:On April 12 2018 05:35 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 05:28 ExO_ wrote:On April 12 2018 05:22 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 05:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:lol if mafia is just not voting at the moment Actually possible too, lmao. On April 12 2018 05:18 ExO_ wrote:On April 12 2018 04:43 Holyflare wrote:On April 12 2018 04:15 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 04:11 Holyflare wrote:
Hang on.
Es is always the kill here. If she's mafia it might confirm a sk alive too. Huh? If ES is mafia she knows there's one night kill but NOT that it was glowingbear. It might be because their shot got blocked or because mafia didn't kill glowingbear. This would require ES as scum to assume their KP went through and not bother to read the night 1 post....on top of faking everything else. Its TOO many things that have to happen for ES to be scum that involve a combination of knowledge and faking. It doesn’t seem likely to me. It’s like pairing water and oil, it just doesn’t mix together in my mind. I think ES far more likely is just a town struggling on TL for the first time Nobody said she's faking all her mistakes about Gunsmith. I think Oats is the only person who ever suggested Eversince was 'trying to act too bad to be scum' and he doesn't even think that anymore. It's been established that she could fuck up with reading comprehension as any alignment. Get with the times innit. Eversince has played more than one game on TL, lol? Why are you more focused on defending Eversince than finding scum or engaging with your scum reads? Because I believe ES is town. I didn’t realize ES hadn’t played before on TL, I thought I read this was first time playing on TL. and I mistaken? I’ve never been great at reading scum. Right now I’m suspicious of You, Rayn, Vivax. I think I can definetely see you and Rayn together. What I’m more certain of tho is that HF is town, and ES is town. And I think HF thinks ES is probably scum. So I think its important I try to defend ES since I don’t think ES is scum. Other than that Ill probably be sheeping HF. No she's definitely played games here before. 'I've never been great at reading scum' - I call bullshit on this. I've seen you play before and you were definitely not a wimp when it came to scum-reading people. Your passive tone here is a stark contrast. Also it's obvious you're going to vote for me. I don't know why you're limping into it. It's a close tie between your town-read and your biggest scum-read and YOU'RE STILL ACTING LIKE YOU'RE DECIDING? "probably be sheeping HF" my fucking arse. I’m not acting like I’m deciding at all, I will 100% hands down vote you over ES. Where the hell do you come off saying im acting like im deciding? If you're " probably sheeping HF" then that means you're not 100% sure BY DEFINITION.
Is this helping town in any way? Does this somehow make me scummier? You’re nit picking my wording. Im not sheeping HF if he votes ES, or if something changes my mind. Ergo im probably sheeping HF.
The hell are you hoping to accomplish with a post like this?
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On April 12 2018 17:22 Eversince wrote:
##vote: Eversince
I'm sorry guys. I'll try to catch up but I'm a far way behind. I didn't get to read anything from today.
I can't no vote so I'll just vote myself. I'll try to be around but the last few days have been really rough for me. No promises.
The hell is this shit. This is a game, you are going to get voted. I believe you are town, and if you are town you have an obligation to not just give up and throw a temper tantrum of self-loathing. Play the game, convince people you are town so we can actually lynch scum.
If you're scum w/e, but honestly this shit pisses me off.
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On April 12 2018 04:02 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 03:52 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 03:39 Skynx wrote:
In meantime I'll vote for you ma'am begging your pardon. Who do you think COULD be third mafia by Process Of Eliminating the people you think are town. Thx. I'm still yet to have an opinion on Vivax and homeless, tube is also null to me right now, probably one of them (and/or ES). I'll actually just put out what i have atm: HF, Oats, rayn
tube, vivax, homeless
Damdred, Calix/Exo (tvs)
ignore: ESI'll definitely won't lynch into my town pile until 1 mafia is left and/or ES is dead. I've never actually played with scum!hf. scum!oats and scum!rayn fooled me once i think, so there are player capable of pulling off what they did so far as scum but I won't consider that possibility until dire need.
This scum list is incredibly shitty. Skynx explain to me in what world Calix and I are a scum team? And just casually throwing Damdred in there seems like some bullshit to me.
There's been pressure on me, pressure on Calix, and Damdred is afk. This case is weak and scummy as hell.
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On April 12 2018 03:02 Skynx wrote:
I also don't like Exo one bit. His vote looks very bad now.
Although I don't think they are ever mafia together with Calix.
especially considering this post skynx made. What changed Skynx, why am I suddenly scum with Calix now when I'm never mafia together with Calix earlier?
Skynkx is scum as hell
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On April 12 2018 03:10 Skynx wrote:
Damdred, Calix/Exo +1 sounds about right
+ Show Spoiler +On April 12 2018 03:20 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 03:15 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 03:12 Skynx wrote:On April 12 2018 03:11 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 03:02 Skynx wrote:
I also don't like Exo one bit. His vote looks very bad now.
Although I don't think they are ever mafia together with Calix. Think you're the first person who hasn't jumped to WICKED MAD bussing theories. You are scum-reading the townie of the two of us but you at least acknowledge it's not SvS. Baby steps. I don't think its svs because you brought up most of the points why his vote sucked at the time even before n00b flipped. Hard to bus like that without reason. Alright. May I ask why you still town-read Eversince? As in, why do you not find the point about the NK/ daypost discrepancy to be suspicious? I agree with i dunno who brought it up that Eversince should just be ignored. After screwing up the claim like that either alignment knows he fucked up and will react like he did. Impossible to reach a conclusion and he's completely untrustworthy whatever he does from now on. What to do with him I'm not really sure though.
I think almost everyone here has had an opinion on ES, that's he's either more likely telling the truth, or he's scum. Skynkx is avoiding giving an opinion all together here and his scum list has just turned into whatever he can throw together. afk Damdred, and just throwing me and Calix together.
I'm pretty sold, Skynkx is scum.
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On April 12 2018 20:32 Skynx wrote:Second one baby, you're never scum with Calix. Calix/Exo (tvs) in scumpile indicates one of two is scum (tvs) try harder plx
So your scum read is Damdred (who's afk) and either me or Calix. What's the case for me, what's the case for Calix? Does it matter to you who is considered scum,?
If you think Calix is scum you should 100% be town reading me.
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On April 12 2018 20:39 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 09:19 Tubesock wrote:
If you guys don’t want to off vote ES cause you don’t think Calix is mafia, then fine let’s kill Skynx. Or Exo or Damdred. I’ll support that but you’re all making a mistake on ES. I don't see how you still scumread me when we scumread exact same people.
Because saying one of Calix/Me is scum is complete garbage, and I can't think of any way a town player reaches that conclusion. Explain to me how you aren't town reading me if you are scum reading Calix. Explain how you reach this conclusion, because I don't believe its natural.
This makes me hella doubt my scum read on Calix, because I don't think you bus your scum buddy d2 like this and I believe you're scum.
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On April 12 2018 20:43 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 20:40 ExO_ wrote:On April 12 2018 20:32 Skynx wrote:Second one baby, you're never scum with Calix. Calix/Exo (tvs) in scumpile indicates one of two is scum (tvs) try harder plx So your scum read is Damdred (who's afk) and either me or Calix. What's the case for me, what's the case for Calix? Does it matter to you who is considered scum,? If you think Calix is scum you should 100% be town reading me. I'm sheeping rayn case on Damdred, everything he says sounds about right. Show nested quote +On April 11 2018 06:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:I agree with your stuff on Calix. There was and is never anything wrong in my case on Exo. Furthermore the dude came in before the lynch and just casually asked "why is rayn scumreading me" when it says so in my post where i voted for him. But he was still aware of the wagons and had actually managed to read the thread well enough to make a judgement call on who to lynch, aka reading the thread but still not reading the thread, whatever suits him. Saying i should townread him because he does stupid shit as town too is just a nonsense defense. Then he adds me and Damdred to his scumreads because we "havent been playing much". Well actually he only adds me and Damdred is just "worrying". Funny thing is i have over twice the filter the dude himself has. On April 10 2018 02:25 ExO_ wrote:
I don’t even know right now. I dont like any of the options after eversince. I switched vote to n00bking because I believe Vivax is town. Id rather be paired up with Vivax and claimed gunsmith eversince than GB and TS at this point.
Gonna filter dive skynk and n00bking right now on my lunch break Never says anything about why Vivax is town other than Vivax feels town. That is not a read. I understand people scumreading Vivax if you don't know Vivax, i don't understand people townreading Vivax if they don't know Vivax at all, especially with reasoning "Vivax feels town". Let's see what the filter dive on noobking and Skynx reveals: And side note trying to read n00bking filter is obonoxious as hell. I’ve never quite seen somebody consantly feel the need to use 20 words when 2 would suffice. Loves to bash TL mafia and toot his own horn like he’s the second coming in TL mafia, but isn’t really helping anybody. Its very hard to be objective towards him with this attitude. And any good player would know that constantly filling the thread with your own ego is more of a distraction to town than it is helping them. This is not a scumread. None of this is saying why noobking is mafia. And Skynx, yeah apparently there was no Skynx filter dive after all..... Someone said i scumread Damdred because Damdred is afk. That can't be further away from truth. I scumread Damdred because at the time he dropped his vote on Calix there was no reason to think Calix is mafia. Damdred will never ever as town vote for "one of the wagons", hell he will instead get lynched himself voting for his scumread, and he tends to post a list for "end game credits" or some other shit like that. Based on his last scumgame it's not even out of reality that he votes for his scumbuddy. But i have a very hard time seeing how the vote on Calix at that time is in any way justified. But it's okay, Damdred will probably have a good asnwer to this when he comes to the thread next time. Another thing is that after voting Calix Damdred is more interested in telling why i look bad rather than why the person he is voting for looks bad or is mafia, and some other random stuff like Skynx wagon looks like something i don't even understand. And how often Damdred says "I disagree on vivax. But I am often wrong". Dude is just trying to save Vivax from a votecount that looks "horrendous for town" (Vivax and Skynx leading -- Calix third), and that's all he can come up with? Okay. I don't really have anything to say about kush. Dude is just probably mafia. Still hasn't done anything. ----- And vivax is town because he actually fights for the stuff he says and gets angry when he tries to explain something and people dont get/believe what he says. Holyflare, it is very easy to get annoyed with you, because you can be really annoying -- i don't mean in a bad way but when you are super pushy it feels super annoying. Vivax still tries. And tries. Like i said, mafia!Vivax with 90% certainty wouldn't give a fuck and just drop dead, because that's what mafia!Vivax does. You can think he is mafia ll you want, you can think i am mafia all you want for my "flip-floppy" or whatever bullshit you said read on him. And i don't care but that's what i think. I am also very fucking sorry i work exactly the last 8-10 hours of any phase so you better lynch me or shoot me dead then because the fact is i am not going to be around as much as any of your fucking highnesses would like me to on any eod. If you've actually read my filter like you promissed 2 days ago you'll find out my arguments against you and Calix. Go do your job lol
I have been, and I just looked it over again. I don't see the case you make against me in there, and I realllly don't see how you are making this association read that Calix flipping one alignment makes me the other, and vice versa.
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On April 12 2018 20:46 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 20:43 currentlyhomeless wrote:On April 12 2018 20:39 Skynx wrote:On April 12 2018 09:19 Tubesock wrote:
If you guys don’t want to off vote ES cause you don’t think Calix is mafia, then fine let’s kill Skynx. Or Exo or Damdred. I’ll support that but you’re all making a mistake on ES. I don't see how you still scumread me when we scumread exact same people. this right here is so weird like all 3 of you, tube exo voting calix yet somehow you all read each other scum someone help me figure that out i dont get it ever is scum so by definition at least one of you 3 has to be town. yet you think ever is town and calix is scum, so...???? which one of you is just stupid? i'm not townreading ever read my filter
yeah you're strictly not town reading him or scum reading him at all.
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HF do you not find skynx here scummy as hell? Like Damdred and either myself/calix are his scum reads. He doesn't even provide a reason for scum reading me but says "read my filter".
Scum scum scum
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On April 12 2018 20:58 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 20:57 ExO_ wrote:
HF do you not find skynx here scummy as hell? Like Damdred and either myself/calix are his scum reads. He doesn't even provide a reason for scum reading me but says "read my filter".
Scum scum scum I find both of you scummy.
Why are you scum reading me exactly, because I believe eversince is town?
Scum reading me with Skynkx would be like me putting you with Rayn -- there's no damn way I'm on a scum team together with Skynx.
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I really believed HF was genuine after EoD Day1, but today has been a Giant Shit show. Far too willing to just accept this lynch, and try to just set me up as the next target.
Vivax is the person making the most sense here. I'm thinking HF/Rayn paired and maybe Calix as scum team.
Sheeping you Vivax.
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I'm the Parity Cop.
I've bread Crumbed this here:
+ Show Spoiler +On April 12 2018 05:18 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 04:43 Holyflare wrote:On April 12 2018 04:15 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 04:11 Holyflare wrote:
Hang on.
Es is always the kill here. If she's mafia it might confirm a sk alive too. Huh? If ES is mafia she knows there's one night kill but NOT that it was glowingbear. It might be because their shot got blocked or because mafia didn't kill glowingbear. This would require ES as scum to assume their KP went through and not bother to read the night 1 post....on top of faking everything else. Its TOO many things that have to happen for ES to be scum that involve a combination of knowledge and faking. It doesn’t seem likely to me. It’s like pairing water and oil, it just doesn’t mix together in my mind. I think ES far more likely is just a town struggling on TL for the first time
+ Show Spoiler +On April 10 2018 02:25 ExO_ wrote:
I don’t even know right now. I dont like any of the options after eversince. I switched vote to n00bking because I believe Vivax is town. Id rather be paired up with Vivax and claimed gunsmith eversince than GB and TS at this point.
Gonna filter dive skynk and n00bking right now on my lunch break
+ Show Spoiler +On April 10 2018 20:21 ExO_ wrote:The more I read your filter Calix the less I like. You have a lot of posts, and it makes me hesitate. However at the end of day yesterday you didn't seem to care at all. A lot of your posts have been heavily argumentative and geared towards upsetting other players and I think distracting them. Post like this: Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 04:40 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 04:38 Holyflare wrote:
Insert berating comment here "I told you so" after a mislynch is quite scummy, good sir. Flipping your read on me from super-town to super-mafia because I...took a warning over simply voting for someone...makes no sense. You stop short of calling HF scum here. You say his action is scummy but don't call him scum. Like wtf is that? I'm not sure who else I'd pair you with right now, but you're at the top of my scum list right now.
I checked Rayn Night 1 and HolyFlare Night 2. I alluded to this twice:
+ Show Spoiler +On April 13 2018 12:36 ExO_ wrote:
I really believed HF was genuine after EoD Day1, but today has been a Giant Shit show. Far too willing to just accept this lynch, and try to just set me up as the next target.
Vivax is the person making the most sense here. I'm thinking HF/Rayn paired and maybe Calix as scum team.
Sheeping you Vivax.
+ Show Spoiler +On April 12 2018 21:02 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 20:58 Holyflare wrote:On April 12 2018 20:57 ExO_ wrote:
HF do you not find skynx here scummy as hell? Like Damdred and either myself/calix are his scum reads. He doesn't even provide a reason for scum reading me but says "read my filter".
Scum scum scum I find both of you scummy. Why are you scum reading me exactly, because I believe eversince is town? Scum reading me with Skynkx would be like me putting you with Rayn -- there's no damn way I'm on a scum team together with Skynx.
HolyFlare and Rayn are different alignments.
I believe between the two HF is scum especially considering his play day 2/night 2.
##Vote: HolyFlare
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On April 14 2018 05:25 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2018 05:16 ExO_ wrote:I'm the Parity Cop. I've bread Crumbed this here: + Show Spoiler +On April 12 2018 05:18 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 04:43 Holyflare wrote:On April 12 2018 04:15 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 04:11 Holyflare wrote:
Hang on.
Es is always the kill here. If she's mafia it might confirm a sk alive too. Huh? If ES is mafia she knows there's one night kill but NOT that it was glowingbear. It might be because their shot got blocked or because mafia didn't kill glowingbear. This would require ES as scum to assume their KP went through and not bother to read the night 1 post....on top of faking everything else. Its TOO many things that have to happen for ES to be scum that involve a combination of knowledge and faking. It doesn’t seem likely to me. It’s like pairing water and oil, it just doesn’t mix together in my mind. I think ES far more likely is just a town struggling on TL for the first time On April 10 2018 02:25 ExO_ wrote:
I don’t even know right now. I dont like any of the options after eversince. I switched vote to n00bking because I believe Vivax is town. Id rather be paired up with Vivax and claimed gunsmith eversince than GB and TS at this point.
Gonna filter dive skynk and n00bking right now on my lunch break On April 10 2018 20:21 ExO_ wrote:The more I read your filter Calix the less I like. You have a lot of posts, and it makes me hesitate. However at the end of day yesterday you didn't seem to care at all. A lot of your posts have been heavily argumentative and geared towards upsetting other players and I think distracting them. Post like this: Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 04:40 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 04:38 Holyflare wrote:
Insert berating comment here "I told you so" after a mislynch is quite scummy, good sir. Flipping your read on me from super-town to super-mafia because I...took a warning over simply voting for someone...makes no sense. You stop short of calling HF scum here. You say his action is scummy but don't call him scum. Like wtf is that? I'm not sure who else I'd pair you with right now, but you're at the top of my scum list right now. I checked Rayn Night 1 and HolyFlare Night 2. I alluded to this twice: + Show Spoiler +On April 13 2018 12:36 ExO_ wrote:
I really believed HF was genuine after EoD Day1, but today has been a Giant Shit show. Far too willing to just accept this lynch, and try to just set me up as the next target.
Vivax is the person making the most sense here. I'm thinking HF/Rayn paired and maybe Calix as scum team.
Sheeping you Vivax. On April 12 2018 21:02 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 20:58 Holyflare wrote:On April 12 2018 20:57 ExO_ wrote:
HF do you not find skynx here scummy as hell? Like Damdred and either myself/calix are his scum reads. He doesn't even provide a reason for scum reading me but says "read my filter".
Scum scum scum I find both of you scummy. Why are you scum reading me exactly, because I believe eversince is town? Scum reading me with Skynkx would be like me putting you with Rayn -- there's no damn way I'm on a scum team together with Skynx. HolyFlare and Rayn are different alignments. I believe between the two HF is scum especially considering his play day 2/night 2.##Vote: HolyFlare Also you keep saying this and I want you to explain it. Why has my day 2/n2 play been terrible in the slightest? Did you ever answer my questions on you?
I believe day 2 you didn’t push the thread for scum. I believe you were far too content on the eversince lynch, and town Hf wouldn’t just sette for that. I believe you’ve nitpicked at incosnsitencies instead of discussing with people to try to find scum.
and between you and Rayn, I believe rayn is town. If he was scum, (therefore received the gun from eversince) why do we not have two dead today?
I ask myself whats more likely—scum Rayn holding onto shot to wifom, or scum HF and ES was blocked so Rayn never received the gun. I think taking the entire picture in, scum HF is more likely.
If you are town you have to convince me otherwise. Because right now I think Rayn is a helluva lot more towny than you.
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Tubesock, can you point out for me what makes Rayn scummier than HF here? What makes you think HF is town,
when I compare the two I see far more scum motivation in HFs posts than im Rayns.
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On April 14 2018 05:35 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2018 05:31 ExO_ wrote:On April 14 2018 05:25 Holyflare wrote:On April 14 2018 05:16 ExO_ wrote:I'm the Parity Cop. I've bread Crumbed this here: + Show Spoiler +On April 12 2018 05:18 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 04:43 Holyflare wrote:On April 12 2018 04:15 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 04:11 Holyflare wrote:
Hang on.
Es is always the kill here. If she's mafia it might confirm a sk alive too. Huh? If ES is mafia she knows there's one night kill but NOT that it was glowingbear. It might be because their shot got blocked or because mafia didn't kill glowingbear. This would require ES as scum to assume their KP went through and not bother to read the night 1 post....on top of faking everything else. Its TOO many things that have to happen for ES to be scum that involve a combination of knowledge and faking. It doesn’t seem likely to me. It’s like pairing water and oil, it just doesn’t mix together in my mind. I think ES far more likely is just a town struggling on TL for the first time On April 10 2018 02:25 ExO_ wrote:
I don’t even know right now. I dont like any of the options after eversince. I switched vote to n00bking because I believe Vivax is town. Id rather be paired up with Vivax and claimed gunsmith eversince than GB and TS at this point.
Gonna filter dive skynk and n00bking right now on my lunch break On April 10 2018 20:21 ExO_ wrote:The more I read your filter Calix the less I like. You have a lot of posts, and it makes me hesitate. However at the end of day yesterday you didn't seem to care at all. A lot of your posts have been heavily argumentative and geared towards upsetting other players and I think distracting them. Post like this: Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 04:40 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 04:38 Holyflare wrote:
Insert berating comment here "I told you so" after a mislynch is quite scummy, good sir. Flipping your read on me from super-town to super-mafia because I...took a warning over simply voting for someone...makes no sense. You stop short of calling HF scum here. You say his action is scummy but don't call him scum. Like wtf is that? I'm not sure who else I'd pair you with right now, but you're at the top of my scum list right now. I checked Rayn Night 1 and HolyFlare Night 2. I alluded to this twice: + Show Spoiler +On April 13 2018 12:36 ExO_ wrote:
I really believed HF was genuine after EoD Day1, but today has been a Giant Shit show. Far too willing to just accept this lynch, and try to just set me up as the next target.
Vivax is the person making the most sense here. I'm thinking HF/Rayn paired and maybe Calix as scum team.
Sheeping you Vivax. On April 12 2018 21:02 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 20:58 Holyflare wrote:On April 12 2018 20:57 ExO_ wrote:
HF do you not find skynx here scummy as hell? Like Damdred and either myself/calix are his scum reads. He doesn't even provide a reason for scum reading me but says "read my filter".
Scum scum scum I find both of you scummy. Why are you scum reading me exactly, because I believe eversince is town? Scum reading me with Skynkx would be like me putting you with Rayn -- there's no damn way I'm on a scum team together with Skynx. HolyFlare and Rayn are different alignments. I believe between the two HF is scum especially considering his play day 2/night 2.##Vote: HolyFlare Also you keep saying this and I want you to explain it. Why has my day 2/n2 play been terrible in the slightest? Did you ever answer my questions on you? I believe day 2 you didn’t push the thread for scum. I believe you were far too content on the eversince lynch, and town Hf wouldn’t just sette for that. I believe you’ve nitpicked at incosnsitencies instead of discussing with people to try to find scum. and between you and Rayn, I believe rayn is town. If he was scum, (therefore received the gun from eversince) why do we not have two dead today? I ask myself whats more likely—scum Rayn holding onto shot to wifom, or scum HF and ES was blocked so Rayn never received the gun. I think taking the entire picture in, scum HF is more likely. If you are town you have to convince me otherwise. Because right now I think Rayn is a helluva lot more towny than you. If rayn has a gun he wouldn't shoot it now. He would shoot it tomorrow night after a mislynch today. It's more likely that mafia blocked Eversince though. Why do you assume he would have a gun?
Eversince said he passed gun to Rayn. I don’t believe he would’ve lied about that. So either Rayn is scum with gun, or ES was blocked.
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On April 14 2018 05:33 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2018 05:16 ExO_ wrote:I'm the Parity Cop. I've bread Crumbed this here: + Show Spoiler +On April 12 2018 05:18 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 04:43 Holyflare wrote:On April 12 2018 04:15 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 04:11 Holyflare wrote:
Hang on.
Es is always the kill here. If she's mafia it might confirm a sk alive too. Huh? If ES is mafia she knows there's one night kill but NOT that it was glowingbear. It might be because their shot got blocked or because mafia didn't kill glowingbear. This would require ES as scum to assume their KP went through and not bother to read the night 1 post....on top of faking everything else. Its TOO many things that have to happen for ES to be scum that involve a combination of knowledge and faking. It doesn’t seem likely to me. It’s like pairing water and oil, it just doesn’t mix together in my mind. I think ES far more likely is just a town struggling on TL for the first time On April 10 2018 02:25 ExO_ wrote:
I don’t even know right now. I dont like any of the options after eversince. I switched vote to n00bking because I believe Vivax is town. Id rather be paired up with Vivax and claimed gunsmith eversince than GB and TS at this point.
Gonna filter dive skynk and n00bking right now on my lunch break On April 10 2018 20:21 ExO_ wrote:The more I read your filter Calix the less I like. You have a lot of posts, and it makes me hesitate. However at the end of day yesterday you didn't seem to care at all. A lot of your posts have been heavily argumentative and geared towards upsetting other players and I think distracting them. Post like this: Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 04:40 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 04:38 Holyflare wrote:
Insert berating comment here "I told you so" after a mislynch is quite scummy, good sir. Flipping your read on me from super-town to super-mafia because I...took a warning over simply voting for someone...makes no sense. You stop short of calling HF scum here. You say his action is scummy but don't call him scum. Like wtf is that? I'm not sure who else I'd pair you with right now, but you're at the top of my scum list right now. I checked Rayn Night 1 and HolyFlare Night 2. I alluded to this twice: + Show Spoiler +On April 13 2018 12:36 ExO_ wrote:
I really believed HF was genuine after EoD Day1, but today has been a Giant Shit show. Far too willing to just accept this lynch, and try to just set me up as the next target.
Vivax is the person making the most sense here. I'm thinking HF/Rayn paired and maybe Calix as scum team.
Sheeping you Vivax. On April 12 2018 21:02 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 20:58 Holyflare wrote:On April 12 2018 20:57 ExO_ wrote:
HF do you not find skynx here scummy as hell? Like Damdred and either myself/calix are his scum reads. He doesn't even provide a reason for scum reading me but says "read my filter".
Scum scum scum I find both of you scummy. Why are you scum reading me exactly, because I believe eversince is town? Scum reading me with Skynkx would be like me putting you with Rayn -- there's no damn way I'm on a scum team together with Skynx. HolyFlare and Rayn are different alignments. I believe between the two HF is scum especially considering his play day 2/night 2. ##Vote: HolyFlare Actually I have a massive problem with your crumbs too. You say they are crumbs but you have one where you are talking to me about skynx being super mafia like you are still town reading me. It's also weird since at that time you were talking to calix about sheeping my reads (unless it was on Eversince) so you weren't actually thinking about checking me at that point. It's even worse when you're saying it's a breadcrumb about checking myself and rayn as if you had already decided to check me at that point? It's further compounded as being even more likely to be fake when your vote was on calix all day yesterday, who I initially cased and is actually the reason you were on that wagon, your other scum read was also skynx? I can see the rayn check making sense because you posted about him but the crumbs don't add up.
my crumbs were using the word pair repeatedly
I had decided to check you by the end of day 2
I do believe your scum HF. You’re very much so trying to pick right now to distract town from discussing. I get it, you have to do that. But im not going to continue responding to you unless you can prevent a compelling reason why Rayn is Scum and you are town.
I don’t believe you can.
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On April 14 2018 05:40 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2018 05:35 Holyflare wrote:On April 14 2018 05:31 ExO_ wrote:On April 14 2018 05:25 Holyflare wrote:On April 14 2018 05:16 ExO_ wrote:I'm the Parity Cop. I've bread Crumbed this here: + Show Spoiler +On April 12 2018 05:18 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 04:43 Holyflare wrote:On April 12 2018 04:15 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 04:11 Holyflare wrote:
Hang on.
Es is always the kill here. If she's mafia it might confirm a sk alive too. Huh? If ES is mafia she knows there's one night kill but NOT that it was glowingbear. It might be because their shot got blocked or because mafia didn't kill glowingbear. This would require ES as scum to assume their KP went through and not bother to read the night 1 post....on top of faking everything else. Its TOO many things that have to happen for ES to be scum that involve a combination of knowledge and faking. It doesn’t seem likely to me. It’s like pairing water and oil, it just doesn’t mix together in my mind. I think ES far more likely is just a town struggling on TL for the first time On April 10 2018 02:25 ExO_ wrote:
I don’t even know right now. I dont like any of the options after eversince. I switched vote to n00bking because I believe Vivax is town. Id rather be paired up with Vivax and claimed gunsmith eversince than GB and TS at this point.
Gonna filter dive skynk and n00bking right now on my lunch break On April 10 2018 20:21 ExO_ wrote:The more I read your filter Calix the less I like. You have a lot of posts, and it makes me hesitate. However at the end of day yesterday you didn't seem to care at all. A lot of your posts have been heavily argumentative and geared towards upsetting other players and I think distracting them. Post like this: Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 04:40 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 04:38 Holyflare wrote:
Insert berating comment here "I told you so" after a mislynch is quite scummy, good sir. Flipping your read on me from super-town to super-mafia because I...took a warning over simply voting for someone...makes no sense. You stop short of calling HF scum here. You say his action is scummy but don't call him scum. Like wtf is that? I'm not sure who else I'd pair you with right now, but you're at the top of my scum list right now. I checked Rayn Night 1 and HolyFlare Night 2. I alluded to this twice: + Show Spoiler +On April 13 2018 12:36 ExO_ wrote:
I really believed HF was genuine after EoD Day1, but today has been a Giant Shit show. Far too willing to just accept this lynch, and try to just set me up as the next target.
Vivax is the person making the most sense here. I'm thinking HF/Rayn paired and maybe Calix as scum team.
Sheeping you Vivax. On April 12 2018 21:02 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 20:58 Holyflare wrote:On April 12 2018 20:57 ExO_ wrote:
HF do you not find skynx here scummy as hell? Like Damdred and either myself/calix are his scum reads. He doesn't even provide a reason for scum reading me but says "read my filter".
Scum scum scum I find both of you scummy. Why are you scum reading me exactly, because I believe eversince is town? Scum reading me with Skynkx would be like me putting you with Rayn -- there's no damn way I'm on a scum team together with Skynx. HolyFlare and Rayn are different alignments. I believe between the two HF is scum especially considering his play day 2/night 2.##Vote: HolyFlare Also you keep saying this and I want you to explain it. Why has my day 2/n2 play been terrible in the slightest? Did you ever answer my questions on you? I believe day 2 you didn’t push the thread for scum. I believe you were far too content on the eversince lynch, and town Hf wouldn’t just sette for that. I believe you’ve nitpicked at incosnsitencies instead of discussing with people to try to find scum. and between you and Rayn, I believe rayn is town. If he was scum, (therefore received the gun from eversince) why do we not have two dead today? I ask myself whats more likely—scum Rayn holding onto shot to wifom, or scum HF and ES was blocked so Rayn never received the gun. I think taking the entire picture in, scum HF is more likely. If you are town you have to convince me otherwise. Because right now I think Rayn is a helluva lot more towny than you. If rayn has a gun he wouldn't shoot it now. He would shoot it tomorrow night after a mislynch today. It's more likely that mafia blocked Eversince though. Why do you assume he would have a gun? I don’t think he has a gun. HF over rayn cause feels. But I town them both. I don’t think I believe you. But I’ll think more about it. I don’t think we can have three blues even if they’re paired down.
if you are town and don’t believe me its gg. Im not a great mafia player, but I think I did a decent job of leaving hints at my role without giving it away, and not all at one time.
That said idk if I believe your vet claim and you might be scum. I think right now its moot — the focus has to be on HF and Rayn. This is the path forward for town victory.
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On April 14 2018 05:43 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2018 05:40 ExO_ wrote:On April 14 2018 05:33 Holyflare wrote:On April 14 2018 05:16 ExO_ wrote:I'm the Parity Cop. I've bread Crumbed this here: + Show Spoiler +On April 12 2018 05:18 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 04:43 Holyflare wrote:On April 12 2018 04:15 Calix wrote:On April 12 2018 04:11 Holyflare wrote:
Hang on.
Es is always the kill here. If she's mafia it might confirm a sk alive too. Huh? If ES is mafia she knows there's one night kill but NOT that it was glowingbear. It might be because their shot got blocked or because mafia didn't kill glowingbear. This would require ES as scum to assume their KP went through and not bother to read the night 1 post....on top of faking everything else. Its TOO many things that have to happen for ES to be scum that involve a combination of knowledge and faking. It doesn’t seem likely to me. It’s like pairing water and oil, it just doesn’t mix together in my mind. I think ES far more likely is just a town struggling on TL for the first time On April 10 2018 02:25 ExO_ wrote:
I don’t even know right now. I dont like any of the options after eversince. I switched vote to n00bking because I believe Vivax is town. Id rather be paired up with Vivax and claimed gunsmith eversince than GB and TS at this point.
Gonna filter dive skynk and n00bking right now on my lunch break On April 10 2018 20:21 ExO_ wrote:The more I read your filter Calix the less I like. You have a lot of posts, and it makes me hesitate. However at the end of day yesterday you didn't seem to care at all. A lot of your posts have been heavily argumentative and geared towards upsetting other players and I think distracting them. Post like this: Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 04:40 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 04:38 Holyflare wrote:
Insert berating comment here "I told you so" after a mislynch is quite scummy, good sir. Flipping your read on me from super-town to super-mafia because I...took a warning over simply voting for someone...makes no sense. You stop short of calling HF scum here. You say his action is scummy but don't call him scum. Like wtf is that? I'm not sure who else I'd pair you with right now, but you're at the top of my scum list right now. I checked Rayn Night 1 and HolyFlare Night 2. I alluded to this twice: + Show Spoiler +On April 13 2018 12:36 ExO_ wrote:
I really believed HF was genuine after EoD Day1, but today has been a Giant Shit show. Far too willing to just accept this lynch, and try to just set me up as the next target.
Vivax is the person making the most sense here. I'm thinking HF/Rayn paired and maybe Calix as scum team.
Sheeping you Vivax. On April 12 2018 21:02 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2018 20:58 Holyflare wrote:On April 12 2018 20:57 ExO_ wrote:
HF do you not find skynx here scummy as hell? Like Damdred and either myself/calix are his scum reads. He doesn't even provide a reason for scum reading me but says "read my filter".
Scum scum scum I find both of you scummy. Why are you scum reading me exactly, because I believe eversince is town? Scum reading me with Skynkx would be like me putting you with Rayn -- there's no damn way I'm on a scum team together with Skynx. HolyFlare and Rayn are different alignments. I believe between the two HF is scum especially considering his play day 2/night 2. ##Vote: HolyFlare Actually I have a massive problem with your crumbs too. You say they are crumbs but you have one where you are talking to me about skynx being super mafia like you are still town reading me. It's also weird since at that time you were talking to calix about sheeping my reads (unless it was on Eversince) so you weren't actually thinking about checking me at that point. It's even worse when you're saying it's a breadcrumb about checking myself and rayn as if you had already decided to check me at that point? It's further compounded as being even more likely to be fake when your vote was on calix all day yesterday, who I initially cased and is actually the reason you were on that wagon, your other scum read was also skynx? I can see the rayn check making sense because you posted about him but the crumbs don't add up. my crumbs were using the word pair repeatedly I had decided to check you by the end of day 2 I do believe your scum HF. You’re very much so trying to pick right now to distract town from discussing. I get it, you have to do that. But im not going to continue responding to you unless you can prevent a compelling reason why Rayn is Scum and you are town. I don’t believe you can. I don't particularly care if you think I'm scum but it doesn't really add up. You're saying you alluded to who you checked twice, not that the crumbs contain the word pair (those were the quotes above this). You are telling me you had already decided to check me while sitting on a calix wagon and telling me how much you scum read skynx and it's also at that time of the second quote that you were just explaining how you would be sheeping me.
I did allude that I would be checking you and Rayn, twice. Top of my filter, page 4.
Using the word pair multiple times was my way of crumbing, especially b/c it felt weird using the word pair like I did.
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My lunch break is almost over. If anyone has questions for me ask and ill try to get to them after work
Out of everyone I believe Vivax is the most town. Trust Vivax.
Find out who between rayn and HF is scum. Lets fucking make this happen guys
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Anyone wanting to lynch anybody other than HF or Rayn is scum.I’m telling the truth, but if you don’t believe me you should 100% be pushing me. There’s literally no other way to look at this logically from a town perspective
HF/TS scum for wanting to lynch outside of this.
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Anybody not voting Rayn or HF or myself is scum. Period. No town looks at this and jumps to Calix. A town player either believes my claim (you should its real) or thinks im a liar.
There are no other logical town choices here
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Vivax read my post. One of Rayn or HF is scum. Im parity cop
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CH
do you believe Im parity cop or not? If you do, Why the fuck are you focusibg on everyone but Rayn/HF?
This highly unlikely shit about miller or framer is such garbage. Scum agenda 20000% to push a vote outside of HF or Rayn.
There is confirmed mafia between two players. If you are town you need to be discussing hf and rayn right the fuck now
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On April 14 2018 10:24 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2018 09:55 ExO_ wrote:
Vivax read my post. One of Rayn or HF is scum. Im parity cop Yeah I read it but since I was scumreading both of them it changes little to my perspective. It's not me you got to convince.
They literally cannot be scum together though. One is town, and its insanely important we get this decision right. I believe you are town Vivax, Is HF town or Rayn? I think Rayn, with HF scum
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On April 14 2018 10:31 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2018 10:13 ExO_ wrote:
CH
do you believe Im parity cop or not? If you do, Why the fuck are you focusibg on everyone but Rayn/HF?
This highly unlikely shit about miller or framer is such garbage. Scum agenda 20000% to push a vote outside of HF or Rayn.
There is confirmed mafia between two players. If you are town you need to be discussing hf and rayn right the fuck now You are wrong. Unmolested checks means 1of HF or rayn is mafia. That’s correct. But I think it’s pretty likely that mafia has a framer or Godfather. Or if not we could have a miller. We have a pretty good POE pool now. Basically, two of Calix, Skynx and Vivax can be scum and at most 1 scum in HF or rayn with great odds of both HF and rayn being town. CurrentlyHomeless is confirmed to me cause we mindmelded. So tldr, we have 66% to hit scum outside of the HF/rayn pool or 50/50 at best in just rayn or HF.
Mafia having GF confirms both as scum
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I hadnt considered gf, this is the only reasoning id buy for the check to be innaccurate— but it changes very little. It still means scum is there, confirmed.
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You guys have got to be fucking kidding me. We have a check on Rayn and HF. One is scum. Yet everyone seems to have the opinion “they cant be scum because there’s got to be a miller or framer”
You’ve gotta be kidding me. Are your egos all this huge? That yours reads are so good that the check just has to be wrong in some super unlikely way or another?
Nobody has presented a compelling case for this in my opinion. And I dont believe for a second its in our interest to vote a 3rd candidate here.
Ill eat my words if there is a framer or miller, but we deserve to lose if we can’t get it together, look at Rayn, look at HF, and figure out which one is scum.
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On April 14 2018 11:17 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2018 10:36 ExO_ wrote:
I hadnt considered gf, this is the only reasoning id buy for the check to be innaccurate— but it changes very little. It still means scum is there, confirmed. In theory you could have checked a rayn GF against a framed HF. It isn't the scenario I'm working with but you get the idea. I think parity cop is quite weak when you don't prime your check with a townie who is confirmed through flip or outstanding townieness and generally speaking only starts being useful from the third check on. So while you believe your check to be really meaningful...It doesn't have to be to everyone else. Which is why I don't agree that voting off HF + rayn automatically makes everyone scummy just cause you checked them. I wish that was the case as I really want to lynch both of them, but the reality isn't that. Either way I have given up on this game cause rayn + HF just can say and do whatever they want without being considered for mafia by a vast majority of townies. I won't be lynched and this is possibly my last forum game ever. So you can put together these statements to figure out what that means.
Rayn GF vs Framed HF means one is scum...still.
Honestly I’m frustrated as hell at your defeatist attitude. WTF is wrong with you. Work with me here, we have scum between HF and Rayn, which is it?
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This is a joke. Mafia has complete control of the game at this point. I feel no desire to continue trying.
Well done by scum team to convince town that the miller or framer scenario has to be what happened therefore we should just ignore HF/Rayn and focus on anybody else.
honestly great scum game from HF. If HF was town he would’ve been dead by now.
Part of me wants to rage vote myself, but nah. My vote will stay parked on HF in the hopes town will pull its head out of its ass. But I have 0 faith this will happen.
gg well played scum.
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##Unvote
Vote: Rayn
And Rayn if you’re town you deserve this and we deserve to lose. Coming into the thread saying “all the town played scummy so im not responsible for my vote, its the way they played they were stupid” is such bullshit. Sorry not everyone is a good enough mafia player for your standards that its the fault of everyone else you couldnt change your reads.
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had confirmed scum between HF and Rayn, choose to ignore it. Town deserves to lose.
gg
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On April 16 2018 04:57 Vivax wrote:Whoever is town on this please find another game to play.
Nah itll just be “its not my fault, everyone else played bad and was scummy!”
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On April 16 2018 12:39 currentlyhomeless wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2018 09:37 Holyflare wrote:
Is everyone in this game fucking mafia or do you guys just not understand democracy?????? yes the only non mafia in this game are me tube and rayn or maybe the jole is we are all town and there are no mafia at all. every night one person just randomly gets killed and in the end ff was just trollign us all along this explains why we lynch obvious scum and they fucking flip green
maybe if you keep lyncing “obvious scum” and they keep flipping green, maybe the problem isn’t with the people flipping but with you!
Nah your ego can’t handle that you’re wrong though, its every other players fault.
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HF or Rayn, b/c one of them is scum
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Rayn/CH if gf in game HF, if not, oats.
lynching outside of HF/Rayn is silly. If we lynched one today and it was wrong, we’d come into today with a guaranteed scum lynch. Instead we’re in lylo....or you guys will be.
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On April 16 2018 20:07 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2018 20:04 ExO_ wrote:
Rayn/CH if gf in game HF, if not, oats.
lynching outside of HF/Rayn is silly. If we lynched one today and it was wrong, we’d come into today with a guaranteed scum lynch. Instead we’re in lylo....or you guys will be. Wait, I'm not sure which names go with which mafia player possibility. Formatting unclear. Also if you are not shot tonight then you will get your wish tomorrow. Because town all has to vote together and you will never vote for anyone outside of those two.
If there GF in game:
Rayn/HF/CH
If no GF:
Rayn/CH/Oats
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On April 16 2018 20:30 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2018 20:26 Calix wrote:On April 16 2018 20:16 Tubesock wrote:On April 16 2018 20:09 Calix wrote:On April 16 2018 20:08 Tubesock wrote:
I’m most likely voting Oats tomorrow.
I don’t know about the rest. I think CH and Calix are town. Vivax too. And HF.
Bleh. You still think CH is town for the mind-melding stuff, right? What did you make of his latest posts? Not mind melding really. He set up a play that in theory would force a scum rayn with a gun to shoot because we were going to lynch him the next day. I don’t actually think even if scum rayn had the gun that he would use it unless it was game ending as he would be scum claiming if there were two kills. So not effective but I liked the idea so went with it. Sure a scum could do that subtle play to pocket someone but that seems like a stretch to me. Better types of plays to be had. For some reason I had to reread this post a few times before I understood what you were referring to. I just disregarded the idea since D3 policy lynch + scum-claiming if he shot + not really scum-read at that point meant it was unlikely rayn would die over the gun thing alone since the best play for mafia!rayn there would be to not shoot still and talk your way out of it. So dunno how credible that is really. I rarely think in terms of 'plays' so I took those posts at face value. As for skimming the thread and wrapping yourself in tinfoil, I've been there  Yeah there really was a zero chance scum rayn would use his gun unless it ended the game. Plus, I think mafia would have been dumb to not rb ES there. Town folk lie all the time about who they’re giving toys to.
You’re seriously suggesting ES lied about who he gave gun to? Really? Did you read ES.
Game is over if there’s framer. Here’s the Scenarios:
Assume Scum can’t have Role Blocker AND Framer.
1) Scum have Framer, not RB. This means Rayn has a gun, and lied about not having it. No town motivation to lie about it.
2) Assume Role Blocker not framer: This means my cop check cannot be wrong. Means HF or Rayn is scum, and if one is GF both are.
We have to hope scum has role blocker and blocked ES night 1.
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We’re fucking idiots for not realizing this until now. Framer means Rayn lied about not having gun. Anybody saying my check had to be wrong, should have also been suggesting Rayn is a liar.
How the fuck did we not realize this sooner
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Then why the fuck isnt TS screaming for Rayns head. If you believe in Role Blocker, you believe my check. There’s no alternative here
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Thats your takeaway TS?
Why the fuck aren’t you crying for Rayn or HFs head? Why is there a framer or a RB TS.
If you believe ES was role blocked. why the fuck did u ignore my check
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On April 16 2018 20:52 Calix wrote:
Why can't Roleblocker and Godfather/ Framer both be in the setup? I'm confused.
What’s the setup here? Parity Cop and Gunsmith vs Roleblocker+Framer? That’s too much in my opinion, and I don’t believe thats the setup.
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oh right TS claim Veteran......hmmmm
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wait why would you claim Veteran unprovoked day 2?
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On April 16 2018 21:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:I am going to hold the game hostage tomorrow. I will get tired of arguing with these newer people who can't tell scum motivation from town motivation and run like headless chickens calling every player mafia in a row and then concede as town.
how do you know ull be here tomorrow?
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On April 16 2018 21:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
oh and i also have a gun.
then shoot HF.
If you’re scum we already lost
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On April 16 2018 21:35 Holyflare wrote:Then lynch rayn, jesus fuck. Just look at the last cycle from a mafia perspective. Town skynx/town hf up for lynch, what is mafia gonna do? Shit all that's what. Who did shit all? Rayn, oats, you, skynx, ch, vivax (what did he actually do in regards to skynx?). Since you are claimed blue then you've got oats/rayn/ch/vivax. Yet you assume I'm the mafia?
If he’s scum with gun its gg
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CH you don’t have ground to stand on. See your post just before Rayn said he had a gun
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On April 16 2018 21:39 currentlyhomeless wrote:
i actually dont understand this game anymore
we havent lost yet but rayn has a gun
what kind of weirdass world is this
FUCKING INSANE A WORLD IN WHICH WE HAVE AN UNCCED COP CHECK AND IT ISNT TAINTED BY MILLER OR SCUM OF SOME SHIT
im sure ur reads are better than that tho
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On April 16 2018 21:51 Holyflare wrote:
I know what rayn is doing but he still might be mafia.
then we’re going to lose to a shot tonight from Rayn, and a kill from Scum
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Rayn if you dont shoot tonight you should be the lynch tomorrow 100%. You’ve definetly lied and mislead this game (by asking ES if she had gun, when you had received it). You knew ES was town, but let her die.
If you don’t shoot tonight, then this is nothing more than a scum ploy. If you don’t shoot tonight, if I’m not killed I will 100% vote you tomorrow. There’s too many lies and there’s a possibilty you are scum without a gun trying to manipulate one last vote for the win.
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If Rayn does not shoot we lynch him. Period.
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Too many lies to believe Rayn. If he doesn’t shoot scum today he needs to die
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yeah vivax in obs qt when we knew rayn had to be scum was still on HF,
dude was crazy tunneled
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