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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 13 2018 06:43 GMT
#1881
This entire conversation is even pointless. I haven't listed you as a scum read, I'm merely pointing out inconsistencies that you haven't even explained because you're trying to jump on the hf is mafia bandwagon.
So explain them and get on my level.
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 13 2018 06:46 GMT
#1882
On April 13 2018 15:27 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2018 15:16 currentlyhomeless wrote:
On April 13 2018 15:00 Holyflare wrote:
On April 13 2018 13:07 currentlyhomeless wrote:
On April 13 2018 12:59 Vivax wrote:
On April 13 2018 12:36 ExO_ wrote:
I really believed HF was genuine after EoD Day1, but today has been a Giant Shit show. Far too willing to just accept this lynch, and try to just set me up as the next target.

Vivax is the person making the most sense here. I'm thinking HF/Rayn paired and maybe Calix as scum team.

Sheeping you Vivax.


Really appreciate that feedback as a welcome change especially considering I'm playing a modestly assholeish almost like in old times but it's not calix, it's Oats. Calix softed blue I recently noticed so should die tonight is my guess.

hf + rayn makes perfect sense though. Also explains why rayn hasn't been all over HF this game yet even after noticing him pushing me for some bs reason regarding the things that didn't add up about ES.

Either way need to convince the townies that are corrupted by HFs charming malice which I would guess are calix tube and very tentatively skynx and even CH who was kind of my last bastion of hope before you showed up.

Damdred slot is coinflippy but I still feel good about him from our early interaction and him speaking up against my lynch.

Dunno, maybe you can come up with a way to drill through those skulls.


in case it wasnt clear atm i’m not really townreading hf

his play is too stupid to be town here imo and he freely admitted he isnt reading


And what instances in this game show that I'm "not reading" and my play is "stupid"?

It's nice to throw out rhetoric but at least back it up. You listed exo as your scum read just like I did, you don't even scum read rayn (just like I do) but say we should lynch him, voted es today because it made sense.

So why this now?


ok this post right here, this is bs

i listed exo as my scum read? when the fuck did i do that? at some point with ever being scum i thought exo was also scum but with ever flipping town that association is useless

i even talked about how i am reading tube as town but i dont think more than one of skynx, exo, and calix can be scum

guess you didnt read that huh


Let's just forget this post is a giant dodge of the questions I asked so I'll repeat them.

And what instances in this game show that I'm "not reading" and my play is "stupid"?


it wasnt a dodge, the reason i even said that very post was bs was because it is proof you werent reading that you think i said exo is scum. you also literally just went and cherry picked the only post where i call exo scummy in order to prove what exactly? that i did think exo was scum? i dont understand your motivation here to pick a fight with me if you are town, this literally only makes sense from scum hf which means its a complete waste of time for me to drag this out with you

which btw you have done to other players in this game already, calix vivax etc. since i never quite understood why you were calling them scum i can see now with your interaction with me its cause you dont have solving the game as a purpose, you just want to create chaos and shit up the thread

as for your evidence there isnt anything better than yor iwn words

On April 12 2018 05:47 Holyflare wrote:
Also kush/homeless/whoever you are, it looks like I'm not reading to you because I'm not particularly reading. I just skim at work and phone post forever now instead. Not the hf of old.


the scummiest shit about your most recent posts is youre trying to paint me as scum who cant back up what i say but this is happening post-flip on ever, who you agreed to kill, who i led killing. literally no one else noticed what i noticed about ever, because guess what, no one else is trying to figure out the fucking game

this is actually why i townread rayn, he credited me when credit was due and so i actually dont think lynching him tomorrow has the best chance of hitting scum. thats why its a policy lynch cause in the offchance he is scum, we should kill him so we dont lose the fucking game

since you just said you would rather not do this, you have automatically become scum to me bc town hf is smart enough to know this is the right play


Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 13 2018 06:48 GMT
#1883
Exo is mafia because he has espoused all day and all night that I'm town non-stop and that he would sheep me. He acknowledges that I scum read Eversince but he thinks that she is NOT going to flip town but that's ok. So, when Eversince flipped town and everything in his mind should be confirmed and I haven't done anything differently he completely drops the read on me.

He was even voting calix, the person that I cased and thought was the most likely to flip mafia if es was town.

Apparently I have fallen off since day 1 but he shows no evidence that he ever thought that, no qualms about my play at all until multiple people start throwing my name around. Nothing should have changed for him.

Combined with his es thoughts being the scummiest I am very sure he is mafia.
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 13 2018 06:48 GMT
#1884
On April 13 2018 15:43 Holyflare wrote:
This entire conversation is even pointless. I haven't listed you as a scum read, I'm merely pointing out inconsistencies that you haven't even explained because you're trying to jump on the hf is mafia bandwagon.
So explain them and get on my level.


what kind of horseshit is this

i agree, it is a waste of time. since you seem to already know rayn will flip scum, fuck the policy lynch, let’s lynch you tomorrow

if i die tn pls lynch hf
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 13 2018 06:49 GMT
#1885
Are you fucking stupid? How is it the best play if I don't think rayn is mafia to lynch rayn?
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 13 2018 06:51 GMT
#1886
On April 13 2018 15:48 Holyflare wrote:
Exo is mafia because he has espoused all day and all night that I'm town non-stop and that he would sheep me. He acknowledges that I scum read Eversince but he thinks that she is NOT going to flip town but that's ok. So, when Eversince flipped town and everything in his mind should be confirmed and I haven't done anything differently he completely drops the read on me.

He was even voting calix, the person that I cased and thought was the most likely to flip mafia if es was town.

Apparently I have fallen off since day 1 but he shows no evidence that he ever thought that, no qualms about my play at all until multiple people start throwing my name around. Nothing should have changed for him.

Combined with his es thoughts being the scummiest I am very sure he is mafia.


can you point iut where he says you fall off

the problem i have with you this game is that at times i actually completely agree with you and then you go off and be a complete dick for no reason and say stupid shit that makes me think you arent reading at all

i cant keep a consistent read one way on you at all this game and it pisses me off
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 13 2018 06:51 GMT
#1887
On April 13 2018 15:48 currentlyhomeless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2018 15:43 Holyflare wrote:
This entire conversation is even pointless. I haven't listed you as a scum read, I'm merely pointing out inconsistencies that you haven't even explained because you're trying to jump on the hf is mafia bandwagon.
So explain them and get on my level.


what kind of horseshit is this

i agree, it is a waste of time. since you seem to already know rayn will flip scum, fuck the policy lynch, let’s lynch you tomorrow

if i die tn pls lynch hf

On April 13 2018 07:41 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2018 07:40 Holyflare wrote:
On April 13 2018 07:39 Vivax wrote:
Do you even have a single townread HF?


I don't actually lol.


Probably rayn tbh.

On April 13 2018 08:21 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2018 05:45 Holyflare wrote:
rayn probably ends up being mafia with a gun now though or some pointless bull shit

Show nested quote +
On April 13 2018 05:48 Holyflare wrote:
nah probably not


It was definitely not pessimistic rhetoric or anything.


What a load of shit.
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 13 2018 06:53 GMT
#1888
On April 13 2018 15:49 Holyflare wrote:
Are you fucking stupid? How is it the best play if I don't think rayn is mafia to lynch rayn?


you said it yourself if rayn has a gun we lose

the only way to prevent a mislynch lose scenario on d3 is to kill the player who might have a gun cause hes scum and lied about not having it

like yea we can go kill a scum too if we have a red check or some other semi confirmed shit but thats why the policy lynch is optimal, it makes sure we dont lose instantly

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 13 2018 06:54 GMT
#1889
On April 13 2018 12:36 ExO_ wrote:
I really believed HF was genuine after EoD Day1, but today has been a Giant Shit show. Far too willing to just accept this lynch, and try to just set me up as the next target.

Vivax is the person making the most sense here. I'm thinking HF/Rayn paired and maybe Calix as scum team
.

Sheeping you Vivax.


He's gone from saying he's sheeping me and I'm definitely town and he already thought Eversince was going to flip town :

On April 12 2018 05:28 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2018 05:22 Calix wrote:
On April 12 2018 05:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
lol if mafia is just not voting at the moment


Actually possible too, lmao.

On April 12 2018 05:18 ExO_ wrote:
On April 12 2018 04:43 Holyflare wrote:
On April 12 2018 04:15 Calix wrote:
On April 12 2018 04:11 Holyflare wrote:
Hang on.

Es is always the kill here. If she's mafia it might confirm a sk alive too.


Huh?


If ES is mafia she knows there's one night kill but NOT that it was glowingbear. It might be because their shot got blocked or because mafia didn't kill glowingbear.



This would require ES as scum to assume their KP went through and not bother to read the night 1 post....on top of faking everything else. Its TOO many things that have to happen for ES to be scum that involve a combination of knowledge and faking.

It doesn’t seem likely to me. It’s like pairing water and oil, it just doesn’t mix together in my mind. I think ES far more likely is just a town struggling on TL for the first time


Nobody said she's faking all her mistakes about Gunsmith. I think Oats is the only person who ever suggested Eversince was 'trying to act too bad to be scum' and he doesn't even think that anymore. It's been established that she could fuck up with reading comprehension as any alignment. Get with the times innit.

Eversince has played more than one game on TL, lol?

Why are you more focused on defending Eversince than finding scum or engaging with your scum reads?


Because I believe ES is town. I didn’t realize ES hadn’t played before on TL, I thought I read this was first time playing on TL. and I mistaken?

I’ve never been great at reading scum. Right now I’m suspicious of You, Rayn, Vivax. I think I can definetely see you and Rayn together. What I’m more certain of tho is that
HF is town, and ES is town. And I think HF thinks ES is probably scum. So I think its important I try to defend ES since I don’t think ES is scum. Other than that Ill probably be sheeping HF.



Nothing has changed at all.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 13 2018 06:55 GMT
#1890
On April 13 2018 15:53 currentlyhomeless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2018 15:49 Holyflare wrote:
Are you fucking stupid? How is it the best play if I don't think rayn is mafia to lynch rayn?


you said it yourself if rayn has a gun we lose

the only way to prevent a mislynch lose scenario on d3 is to kill the player who might have a gun cause hes scum and lied about not having it

like yea we can go kill a scum too if we have a red check or some other semi confirmed shit but thats why the policy lynch is optimal, it makes sure we dont lose instantly



And that's where your opinion and mine differs. Policy is a weak cop out when I'd much rather just be right and lynch my mafia reads. Not going to change my mind.
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 13 2018 06:56 GMT
#1891
like if you are town this is why im getting pissed off

why would you call me stupid when the whole fucking time i have been saying its a policy lynch

i even fucking agree with you, i actually dont really believe rayn would flip scum here. however my certainty is maybe 70-80%. it would need to be higher for me to say yea lets just risk the whole game.

if rayn is town actually i expect he would agree with me here and actually help us win the game
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 13 2018 06:58 GMT
#1892
On April 13 2018 15:54 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2018 12:36 ExO_ wrote:
I really believed HF was genuine after EoD Day1, but today has been a Giant Shit show. Far too willing to just accept this lynch, and try to just set me up as the next target.

Vivax is the person making the most sense here. I'm thinking HF/Rayn paired and maybe Calix as scum team
.

Sheeping you Vivax.


He's gone from saying he's sheeping me and I'm definitely town and he already thought Eversince was going to flip town :

Show nested quote +
On April 12 2018 05:28 ExO_ wrote:
On April 12 2018 05:22 Calix wrote:
On April 12 2018 05:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
lol if mafia is just not voting at the moment


Actually possible too, lmao.

On April 12 2018 05:18 ExO_ wrote:
On April 12 2018 04:43 Holyflare wrote:
On April 12 2018 04:15 Calix wrote:
On April 12 2018 04:11 Holyflare wrote:
Hang on.

Es is always the kill here. If she's mafia it might confirm a sk alive too.


Huh?


If ES is mafia she knows there's one night kill but NOT that it was glowingbear. It might be because their shot got blocked or because mafia didn't kill glowingbear.



This would require ES as scum to assume their KP went through and not bother to read the night 1 post....on top of faking everything else. Its TOO many things that have to happen for ES to be scum that involve a combination of knowledge and faking.

It doesn’t seem likely to me. It’s like pairing water and oil, it just doesn’t mix together in my mind. I think ES far more likely is just a town struggling on TL for the first time


Nobody said she's faking all her mistakes about Gunsmith. I think Oats is the only person who ever suggested Eversince was 'trying to act too bad to be scum' and he doesn't even think that anymore. It's been established that she could fuck up with reading comprehension as any alignment. Get with the times innit.

Eversince has played more than one game on TL, lol?

Why are you more focused on defending Eversince than finding scum or engaging with your scum reads?


Because I believe ES is town. I didn’t realize ES hadn’t played before on TL, I thought I read this was first time playing on TL. and I mistaken?

I’ve never been great at reading scum. Right now I’m suspicious of You, Rayn, Vivax. I think I can definetely see you and Rayn together. What I’m more certain of tho is that
HF is town, and ES is town. And I think HF thinks ES is probably scum. So I think its important I try to defend ES since I don’t think ES is scum. Other than that Ill probably be sheeping HF.



Nothing has changed at all.


ok i see what you are saying now. and i agree, that flop makes no sense.

do you think exo is the most likely player to flip scum at this point? do you still think vivax is scum? calix?

i guess exo vivax calix is possible but i actually dont think vivax is scum here either
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 13 2018 06:59 GMT
#1893
I'm calling you stupid because you're saying it's the optimal play and aren't giving any other alternatives and you're arguing that it's the optimal play instead when you don't even scum read the guy. You're also calling me mafia. Which IS stupid.

So talk about exo/skynx/calix/tube or just don't interact with me because I won't stop calling you stupid if you're going to call me mafia when I voted on the wagon that made sense yesterday.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 13 2018 07:00 GMT
#1894
I haven't thought vivax was mafia for a while actually but I just didn't have the guts to say it and I'm low key hedging.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 13 2018 07:04 GMT
#1895
I hardcore waffle on calix too. I can't wrap my head around the wagons being so close when eversince was such an easy lynch for mafia to sit on. So many people showed face and tmi on es to what... Sit on their partner calix?

But then it's also fucking retarded if she's town to tmi on es too because there's no point??

The afk excuses from calix, a person that posts usually non stop are becoming way too abundant though. The deadline stuff day 1 also weighs on my mind too.

The thing that gives me pause is that she basically shares my scum reads?

I realise this post says nothing and it's just rambling what's on my mind.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 13 2018 07:10 GMT
#1896
On April 13 2018 16:00 Holyflare wrote:
I haven't thought vivax was mafia for a while actually but I just didn't have the guts to say it and I'm low key hedging.


Actually nah I take this back. I thought he wasn't mafia during the day because of sheeping on es but after she's town he might well be. He didn't give a shit who wrote about the Eversince catch, he literally doesn't care about figuring out who could be town or not because of it and je attributed it to rayn. He hasn't had a concrete reason to scum read anyone in the game at ANY point imo.
currentlyhomeless
Profile Joined April 2018
Japan405 Posts
April 13 2018 07:18 GMT
#1897
flood control...

btw this whole game i have been phone posting so sorry for my shrtiy formatting and ranty thoughts. its a pain in the ass to go quote more than one or two things at once

On April 13 2018 15:59 Holyflare wrote:
I'm calling you stupid because you're saying it's the optimal play and aren't giving any other alternatives and you're arguing that it's the optimal play instead when you don't even scum read the guy. You're also calling me mafia. Which IS stupid.

So talk about exo/skynx/calix/tube or just don't interact with me because I won't stop calling you stupid if you're going to call me mafia when I voted on the wagon that made sense yesterday.


then dont imply i am mafia and then when called out back off with some shady shit. if you are town and you recognize youre just shitting up the thread then maybe its time to step back and consider that i am literally the only person consistently trying to figurethus game out. maybe if it semeed like you were trying to help me instead of jump down my throat i wouldnt be seeing red

So talk about exo/skynx/calix/tube or just don't interact with me because I won't stop calling you stupid if you're going to call me mafia when I voted on the wagon that made sense yesterday.


fine, lets consider alternatives

from exo skynx calix tube i’m gonna throw tube out cause we’re not lynching him tomorrow

of the remaining 3 like i said earlier probably only 1, max 2 can be scum. personally if i had to pick one right now it would be exo simply based on the two posts you showed just now. i never noticed the flop and its actually quite blatant.

if you had asked me like an hour ago i would have said skynx.

the reason is because I went back and reread gb’s posts to try and decipher why the fuck he would die n1 because it literally made no sense to me, i actually thought he had a good chance of being scum. gb was pretty suspicious of skynx and earlier on he was attacking calix too, but for the most part later his focus was skynx.

and actually part of my doubt on rayn is also because one of the only other players that gb read as scum was rayn.

however i think despite looking very similar, skynx has had way more pressure and attention for whatwver reason than exo.

and for calix as i said before fuck reading calix’s posts. whats interesting though is that lately calix hasnt posted much

on vivax, i toneread him pretty strongly town but actually in the back of my head i am bothered by how he seems to constantly be slow on the uptake for thread events

like him not realising what i said about ever was a pretty bug wtf. rayn looked a lot better in my eyes when he gave me credit for it but vivax looked worse for not realising that it was me pushing ever for different reasoms than the initial claim problems

but my gut reads vivax town and some of his posts gave e the feeling that he is actually trying to figure out the game and not scum faking.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 13 2018 07:35 GMT
#1898
its so stupid to lynch rayn tmr just because he might be mafia and he might have a gun
No gg, No skill.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 13 2018 07:36 GMT
#1899
Fuck it. Medic heal ch and then I can die and let vivax actually do stuff. If I don't die they'll have to kill rayn if he's town which helps policy or reveal actual info about someone else.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 13 2018 07:38 GMT
#1900
im actually not reading CH's stuff because no
No gg, No skill.
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