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Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 09 2018 04:36 GMT
#321
Eversince,

“Skynx is alright.” So does that mean you agree with his case? But you said Rayne and GB are town? Was it something else Skynx said? What exactly was “alright”?

Same with Damdred. (Obviously he didn’t make a case though).
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
April 09 2018 04:39 GMT
#322
No, I think his case is garbage. But he himself admit that he didn't understand much. With how much Calix was pushing Rayn it kind of makes sense. I don't see an agenda behind it...
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 09 2018 04:47 GMT
#323
On April 09 2018 13:39 Eversince wrote:
No, I think his case is garbage. But he himself admit that he didn't understand much. With how much Calix was pushing Rayn it kind of makes sense. I don't see an agenda behind it...


Hmm. It looked pretty opportunistic to me. It was after Rayne was already getting some heat from Calex (even GB was getting some of it). At the time they were safe targets for mafia to come in with a case and look productive. You’re right it was garbage. And overexplainy on pretty simple concepts. But him not understand what was going on makes it more scummy don’t you think? Wouldn’t town want to figure out a little bit of what’s going on before they throw out a case? I think he may have thrown out a case just to throw something out.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 09 2018 04:48 GMT
#324
Did you see a town agenda?
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
April 09 2018 04:50 GMT
#325
But he did nothing with it? If it came from mafia Skynx I assume his team would be behind him? It was just a wall post that everyone seems to dismiss. You see what I'm saying?
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
April 09 2018 04:54 GMT
#326
To explain town point of view:

'See's all these points agains't Rayn.'
Is caught in the moment. Filters. Sees what he's already biased to.
Follows it.

GB read is wierder. I'll have to double check that. But I dunno, seemed innocent to me.
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
April 09 2018 04:55 GMT
#327
and if I remember this correctly GB seemed to stall out on some points. I thought nothing of it after re-filtering him I think he's town. But I skimmed before I caught up and thought I saw something from him I'd question. But now that I'm back downstairs and have re-read it he seems fine. So I just mis-read.
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Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 09 2018 05:00 GMT
#328
On April 09 2018 13:50 Eversince wrote:
But he did nothing with it? If it came from mafia Skynx I assume his team would be behind him? It was just a wall post that everyone seems to dismiss. You see what I'm saying?


I see what you’re saying. I don’t agree his team would back him though.

The more I think about it the more I think he’s scum.

##Vote: Skynx
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
April 09 2018 05:02 GMT
#329
And to answer the other end of your post. I think town might be more inclined to push out a case. Town sees what ever is thrown in front of them. We only have that to work with. If we see something, bias or not, and feel like the picture snaps in front of us. Town is way more likely to comment on it. Mafia generally try to refer to each other and get on the same page to collaborate.
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
April 09 2018 05:04 GMT
#330
Fair enough sir, I still think your town so I hope you look at other people. I sadly don't have a strong scum read to try to direct you towards.
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
April 09 2018 05:05 GMT
#331
and actually to add to that. Rayn was getting some pressure from lots of people. Most didn't commit. So why wouldn't mafia try to rally around it?
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
April 09 2018 05:06 GMT
#332
Rayn is a really strong player... If he can be removed early why would mafia not try?
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
April 09 2018 05:07 GMT
#333
Shit, the more I think about this the more I think Skynx can't be mafia. There is a realm that he could of been. But unless HF is mafia and shit the bed, I don't see it.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 09 2018 05:11 GMT
#334
On April 09 2018 14:05 Eversince wrote:
and actually to add to that. Rayn was getting some pressure from lots of people. Most didn't commit. So why wouldn't mafia try to rally around it?


I think where we disagree is the amount of coordination mafia actually does. And that changes our worldview. I’m saying Skynx saw heat on Rayn and took the opportunity to try to get him killed. It also makes him look productive. Maybe the other mafiates weren’t around. Maybe they already did rally and saw they were the only ones trying. My experience though mafia likes to help kill people but makes town do most the work. Calex was doing most the work, Skynx just added a little push.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 09 2018 05:12 GMT
#335
Anyone else you want to talk about?
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
April 09 2018 05:15 GMT
#336
On April 09 2018 14:11 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2018 14:05 Eversince wrote:
and actually to add to that. Rayn was getting some pressure from lots of people. Most didn't commit. So why wouldn't mafia try to rally around it?


I think where we disagree is the amount of coordination mafia actually does. And that changes our worldview. I’m saying Skynx saw heat on Rayn and took the opportunity to try to get him killed. It also makes him look productive. Maybe the other mafiates weren’t around. Maybe they already did rally and saw they were the only ones trying. My experience though mafia likes to help kill people but makes town do most the work. Calex was doing most the work, Skynx just added a little push.


I don't see Calix as mafia. Skynx's post on GB/Rayn got no traction at all. I'll assume with 13 players there is at least 3 mafia. For it to gain no traction when most active are skeptical of Rayn just seems wrong to me.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
April 09 2018 05:17 GMT
#337
What do you think about HF/Exo/noob/CH/
Oats etc? I don't have experience playing with anyone but HF/
Oats. I don't think HF is mafia but I'm trying to not overthink things from now... I will end up tunneled lol.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 09 2018 05:18 GMT
#338
On April 09 2018 12:39 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2018 12:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 09 2018 12:27 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 09 2018 11:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
Vivax is forgettable, i had to look at his filter to see what was up and yeah theres nothing much, not gonna lynch today though


To be fair, I think he may be a good lynch. I have no reason to actually townread him and Calix at least is active.

Answer me this, please: isn't it possible that Calix, as town, is simply reevaluating her read on rayn ?

not townread =/= scum.

that reevaluation was drawn way out, i could see it coming from a mile away which means it was constructed and fake.


So, if Calix flips red, does that mean Rayn is also mafia?

No
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 09 2018 05:18 GMT
#339
On April 09 2018 12:40 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok, ok
Oats

Can you make a list of your reads atm?

No
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
April 09 2018 05:19 GMT
#340
On April 09 2018 14:15 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2018 14:11 Tubesock wrote:
On April 09 2018 14:05 Eversince wrote:
and actually to add to that. Rayn was getting some pressure from lots of people. Most didn't commit. So why wouldn't mafia try to rally around it?


I think where we disagree is the amount of coordination mafia actually does. And that changes our worldview. I’m saying Skynx saw heat on Rayn and took the opportunity to try to get him killed. It also makes him look productive. Maybe the other mafiates weren’t around. Maybe they already did rally and saw they were the only ones trying. My experience though mafia likes to help kill people but makes town do most the work. Calex was doing most the work, Skynx just added a little push.


I don't see Calix as mafia. Skynx's post on GB/Rayn got no traction at all. I'll assume with 13 players there is at least 3 mafia. For it to gain no traction when most active are skeptical of Rayn just seems wrong to me.

Er what? Do you think there's anything particularly wrong with the case itself?
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