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On April 20 2018 21:10 Holyflare wrote:
You can't talk to me about throwing the game either. You've been saying everything myself and calix have been saying is specifically mafia orientated when it's likely just not.
because you say I’m misrepresenting it when I know I’m not!
actually stepping back, us butting heads is what made me reread. I reread a lot because I was so confused.
Anyway ignore the balance aspect for a second and hear me out. We clearly don’t agree on the balance aspect and you can’t say that it isn’t possible because I’ve literally hosted a game with that many blues.
these are the only things that you need to think about
1. why would I be so sure vivax would live yesterday
2. if I were scum why would I shoot vivax and then claim I’m a jailer who protted him on the same night. If I were scum I could’ve just shot Tube and gotten you lynched with rayn.
there are plenty of other reasons too but these are the main ones
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And how does mafia know your role to rb you if they think tube is a blue veteran in the world you're saying 4 blues exist?
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like seriously just put yourself in my shoes this game.
n1 I thought you were scum, protted vivax and surprised GB (??) died instead. So I treated you as town. I actually then flipped on Vivax because he seemed to not be reading any of my posts. I more or less 100% read rayn as town because he caught exactly the same things I did on ever, and his play on d2 was really good. and because of that waffled on you (honestly for shitty team balance reasons but w/e)
out of the two claims I initially thought exo was scummy because the check didn’t make sense since I thought you were both town. But exo didn’t seem scum either so I figured I would just let it be and see how it played out.
however I was suspicious of both you and calix for crumbs because if one of you then claimed I would have certainly claimed myself. that’s one reason why I was talking about outing the cop and why I said I thought you voting rayn in that fashion was scummy.
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On April 20 2018 21:25 Holyflare wrote:
And how does mafia know your role to rb you if they think tube is a blue veteran in the world you're saying 4 blues exist?
mafia knows I’m not lying because vivax died and I just claimed.
tube obviously is not town vet here anymore which is why 1. he didn’t die and 2. why Vivax died. They RBed me
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##vote Holyflare
As i said i don't really have anything to add and it's up to you to decide Tubesock. I could write all kinds of shiny post like HF is doing but it won't change anything. All the information is in the thread already. If you have some questions i will have time this evening or tomorrow in the morning.
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##unvote
wait what the fuck is going on here?
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On April 20 2018 21:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What is this CH?
your worst nightmare
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On April 20 2018 21:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##vote Holyflare
As i said i don't really have anything to add and it's up to you to decide Tubesock. I could write all kinds of shiny post like HF is doing but it won't change anything. All the information is in the thread already. If you have some questions i will have time this evening or tomorrow in the morning.
Look at this guy that doesn't give a shit about reading the thread with his pre-determined statements.
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On April 20 2018 21:27 currentlyhomeless wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2018 21:25 Holyflare wrote:
And how does mafia know your role to rb you if they think tube is a blue veteran in the world you're saying 4 blues exist? mafia knows I’m not lying because vivax died and I just claimed. tube obviously is not town vet here anymore which is why 1. he didn’t die and 2. why Vivax died. They RBed me
Why did you claim though? It's not to throw shade on anyone, you claiming doesn't change my alignment?
In fact if you got rbd last night and tube was also blue like you spent the day talking about there'd be 0% chance I'm mafia because you would have been role copped and I wouldn't be pushing someone that would claim jk. Calix too.
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idk what is happening but i don't believe that claim.
##vote currentlyhomeless
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On April 20 2018 21:39 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2018 21:27 currentlyhomeless wrote:On April 20 2018 21:25 Holyflare wrote:
And how does mafia know your role to rb you if they think tube is a blue veteran in the world you're saying 4 blues exist? mafia knows I’m not lying because vivax died and I just claimed. tube obviously is not town vet here anymore which is why 1. he didn’t die and 2. why Vivax died. They RBed me Why did you claim though? It's not to throw shade on anyone, you claiming doesn't change my alignment? In fact if you got rbd last night and tube was also blue like you spent the day talking about there'd be 0% chance I'm mafia because you would have been role copped and I wouldn't be pushing someone that would claim jk. Calix too.
I don’t actually follow what you are saying here.
I waffled between snap claiming after I read the daypost (which incidentally I posted before reading it) and waiting to claim.
I decided to wait because I wanted to see what tube would do. If I snap claimed I felt I had less chance of getting a good read on tube’s alignment. at the time I thought either you are scum with calix or you are scum with tube. I knew tube would be around when I am so I decided okay, let’s talk. but he refused. he’s straight up not considering alternatives.
as for why I didn’t wait until the next day to claim, I knew that claiming today would force people to talk today and allow us to solve the game today. Also given that I now basically knew tube was scum after he spent several hours not posting at all, claiming now would also force his scum buddy to talk, and if tube is certainly scum then you being town actually is plausible and even probably the most likely because tube was not around for lynch.
and again I don’t follow the last part. maybe they rolecopped me? why would that have anything to do with my claim timing
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On April 20 2018 21:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
idk what is happening but i don't believe that claim.
##vote currentlyhomeless
uhh rofl
there’s a red check between you and HF and you vote me
yeah okay
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oh I see what you mean.
you’re saying I should have assumed I got rolecopped after vivax died and so immediately thought you were town after flip?
I actually didn’t think about the possibility of a rolecop, I didn’t really think about why I would be RBed at all actually. And even if I figured I got rolecopped I don’t think my immediate conclusion would have been “HF must be town” because I was too tunneled to think about what that would mean.
also not like either of you pushed me d4 anyway.
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Fuck if this game is decided by a miller. That will be really sad. 
But the only motivation i can come up with for CH is that he knows he already won. He isn't making any sense with any person as mafia to do that, but there is absolutely no town motivation ever to do that, and he is not a jailkeeper.
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On April 20 2018 22:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:Fuck if this game is decided by a miller. That will be really sad. But the only motivation i can come up with for CH is that he knows he already won. He isn't making any sense with any person as mafia to do that, but there is absolutely no town motivation ever to do that, and he is not a jailkeeper.
it’s a manner claim? rofl
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I know Holyflare will never allow that, never.
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anyway off to bed. as I am busy tomorrow morning and evening I’ll only have a few hours, feel free to ask whatever you want in the meantime
the scum clearly don’t want to discuss anything
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There is nothing to discuss, you claimed mafia.
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This thread makes me understand why people become alcoholics. Because I am way too sober for whatever nonsense is going down here.
But I still want rayn dead. Gotta resolve those cop checks before we hopefully head into our last LYLO and resolve Veteran vs Jailer...
There is too much role WIFOM this game. Annoying.
It's been a really busy day for me today and I'm also enjoying the rare bout of sunshine in the UK. I'll be back with some actual thoughts this evening.
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