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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 12 2018 23:23 GMT
#1838
On April 13 2018 08:22 currentlyhomeless wrote:
if rayn is scum and has a gun we lose with a mislynch tomorrow

so we cannot mislynch tomorrow


Look at this guy calculating how many mislynches are left.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 12 2018 23:26 GMT
#1843
On April 13 2018 08:25 currentlyhomeless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2018 08:23 Holyflare wrote:
On April 13 2018 08:14 currentlyhomeless wrote:
this game sucks

On April 13 2018 05:34 Holyflare wrote:
On April 13 2018 04:44 Vivax wrote:
Eager to see who dies tonight though. Might just narrow it down enough to end up solving the game. My money is on Oats, CH or myself even though Oats was easily pocketed by HF.

HF hard town read by entire town should die here if he's actually town but it's not going to happen.


Just give up, I'm never gonna let you lynch me. Find a new push to endlessly whine about.


HF pls explain this post


Do you have any tangible reasons why vivax scum reads anybody in this game? I sure don't. If he stops whining about me to everyone in the game then he's forced to actually produce content.


this was not the answer I expected but ok

so you still think vivax is scum


Dunno really. I don't actually have a town read.

I think I'm too blinded by him being this subpar. I want to lynch exo the most. I think.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 12 2018 23:31 GMT
#1849
On April 13 2018 08:28 currentlyhomeless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2018 08:26 Holyflare wrote:
On April 13 2018 08:25 currentlyhomeless wrote:
On April 13 2018 08:23 Holyflare wrote:
On April 13 2018 08:14 currentlyhomeless wrote:
this game sucks

On April 13 2018 05:34 Holyflare wrote:
On April 13 2018 04:44 Vivax wrote:
Eager to see who dies tonight though. Might just narrow it down enough to end up solving the game. My money is on Oats, CH or myself even though Oats was easily pocketed by HF.

HF hard town read by entire town should die here if he's actually town but it's not going to happen.


Just give up, I'm never gonna let you lynch me. Find a new push to endlessly whine about.


HF pls explain this post


Do you have any tangible reasons why vivax scum reads anybody in this game? I sure don't. If he stops whining about me to everyone in the game then he's forced to actually produce content.


this was not the answer I expected but ok

so you still think vivax is scum


Dunno really. I don't actually have a town read.

I think I'm too blinded by him being this subpar. I want to lynch exo the most. I think.


hf i think you are a smart person

i think as town you would do the right thing here

so why is it that you considered that rayn is scum wit a gun but didn’t consider that we can just lynch rayn tomorrow

if rayn is scum and he has a gun, we just lose as soon as we mislynch one more. if we lynch rayn and rayn is actually town we go to LYLO sure but if we are wrong about rayn we lose

that’s fucked


Rather just lynch someone I actually think is mafia rather than a remote possibility.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 12 2018 23:46 GMT
#1854
Don't be a dick.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 12 2018 23:54 GMT
#1857
I'm just lynching exo.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 13 2018 00:02 GMT
#1860
My god.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 13 2018 00:03 GMT
#1861
You're the most boring player in this game vivax. If you're town you royally fucked up.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 13 2018 06:00 GMT
#1872
On April 13 2018 13:07 currentlyhomeless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2018 12:59 Vivax wrote:
On April 13 2018 12:36 ExO_ wrote:
I really believed HF was genuine after EoD Day1, but today has been a Giant Shit show. Far too willing to just accept this lynch, and try to just set me up as the next target.

Vivax is the person making the most sense here. I'm thinking HF/Rayn paired and maybe Calix as scum team.

Sheeping you Vivax.


Really appreciate that feedback as a welcome change especially considering I'm playing a modestly assholeish almost like in old times but it's not calix, it's Oats. Calix softed blue I recently noticed so should die tonight is my guess.

hf + rayn makes perfect sense though. Also explains why rayn hasn't been all over HF this game yet even after noticing him pushing me for some bs reason regarding the things that didn't add up about ES.

Either way need to convince the townies that are corrupted by HFs charming malice which I would guess are calix tube and very tentatively skynx and even CH who was kind of my last bastion of hope before you showed up.

Damdred slot is coinflippy but I still feel good about him from our early interaction and him speaking up against my lynch.

Dunno, maybe you can come up with a way to drill through those skulls.


in case it wasnt clear atm i’m not really townreading hf

his play is too stupid to be town here imo and he freely admitted he isnt reading


And what instances in this game show that I'm "not reading" and my play is "stupid"?

It's nice to throw out rhetoric but at least back it up. You listed exo as your scum read just like I did, you don't even scum read rayn (just like I do) but say we should lynch him, voted es today because it made sense.

So why this now?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 13 2018 06:04 GMT
#1873
On April 13 2018 12:36 ExO_ wrote:
I really believed HF was genuine after EoD Day1, but today has been a Giant Shit show. Far too willing to just accept this lynch, and try to just set me up as the next target.

Vivax is the person making the most sense here. I'm thinking HF/Rayn paired and maybe Calix as scum team.

Sheeping you Vivax.


And why is he making the most sense? What has he said that has convinced you? I don't think I've seen an actual reason for vivax's reads since day 1 and now you're sheeping him?

Why was this lynch a giant shit show? Why did you blindly think es was town when you had the massive bit I highlighted in red about missing the gb night kill?

Why did you ignore when I posted the mafia motivation for es to make that mistake?

Where is your scum read on skynx magically gone?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 13 2018 06:13 GMT
#1875
This game is fucking stupid that we even contemplate killing rayn because of a gun situation that could have easily just been resolved if literally anyone else in the game was gunsmith.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 13 2018 06:14 GMT
#1876
On April 13 2018 15:13 Calix wrote:
Probably can’t post until after EON again.

Just want to ask one thing. Can people who think ExO is town or who do not have ExO in their scum teams explain why he is town? I do not see it.

I looked at some of his recent town games and think you guys should too. Because the way he posts and gives scum reads has changed IMO. I know he said he was trying to tunnel less in Classic Mafia but even there his style is not the same.

But maybe I am confirmation biasing myself.


Why?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 13 2018 06:27 GMT
#1878
On April 13 2018 15:16 currentlyhomeless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2018 15:00 Holyflare wrote:
On April 13 2018 13:07 currentlyhomeless wrote:
On April 13 2018 12:59 Vivax wrote:
On April 13 2018 12:36 ExO_ wrote:
I really believed HF was genuine after EoD Day1, but today has been a Giant Shit show. Far too willing to just accept this lynch, and try to just set me up as the next target.

Vivax is the person making the most sense here. I'm thinking HF/Rayn paired and maybe Calix as scum team.

Sheeping you Vivax.


Really appreciate that feedback as a welcome change especially considering I'm playing a modestly assholeish almost like in old times but it's not calix, it's Oats. Calix softed blue I recently noticed so should die tonight is my guess.

hf + rayn makes perfect sense though. Also explains why rayn hasn't been all over HF this game yet even after noticing him pushing me for some bs reason regarding the things that didn't add up about ES.

Either way need to convince the townies that are corrupted by HFs charming malice which I would guess are calix tube and very tentatively skynx and even CH who was kind of my last bastion of hope before you showed up.

Damdred slot is coinflippy but I still feel good about him from our early interaction and him speaking up against my lynch.

Dunno, maybe you can come up with a way to drill through those skulls.


in case it wasnt clear atm i’m not really townreading hf

his play is too stupid to be town here imo and he freely admitted he isnt reading


And what instances in this game show that I'm "not reading" and my play is "stupid"?

It's nice to throw out rhetoric but at least back it up. You listed exo as your scum read just like I did, you don't even scum read rayn (just like I do) but say we should lynch him, voted es today because it made sense.

So why this now?


ok this post right here, this is bs

i listed exo as my scum read? when the fuck did i do that? at some point with ever being scum i thought exo was also scum but with ever flipping town that association is useless

i even talked about how i am reading tube as town but i dont think more than one of skynx, exo, and calix can be scum

guess you didnt read that huh


Scum is in tube, Skynx, exo. You think tube is too bad to be scum so that leaves scum in exo or skynx.

On April 12 2018 07:45 currentlyhomeless wrote:
holy shit what is this game just sheep me already. why are people still talking about whether i am kush or sicklicker or blazinghand? if you read the 1st 2nd and 3rd words of 3 of my posts you will see who I am

half the players are playing for scum win condition

last few pages are just wtf go to n2 this is a waste of space

i’m gonna go wash my genitals now since i have to go to work

eversince is scum since they didnt read daypost but knew only 1 nk. when ever flips scum we kill exo cause the posts sound smart but the conclsion is scummy


This is what you've said about exo previously. Ever flipping scum or town has nothing to do with exo's post conclusions being scummy, they are just scummy without her alignment.

You haven't said anything about skynx being mafia iirc. Ergo exo is your only mafia read. You say exo/skynx/calix doesn't have scum v scum interactions but you previously throw shade at me and ignore me casing calix pretty damn hard. Hard enough that she would have been the lynch today if ever actually talked about guns. You see me pushing exo on inconsistencies about lynching es that are bull shit. Skynx doesn't feature in your scum read other than poe. Ergo you pick and choose your scum reads arbitrarily on nonsense and get offended when someone calls you out.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 13 2018 06:27 GMT
#1879
On April 13 2018 15:16 currentlyhomeless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2018 15:00 Holyflare wrote:
On April 13 2018 13:07 currentlyhomeless wrote:
On April 13 2018 12:59 Vivax wrote:
On April 13 2018 12:36 ExO_ wrote:
I really believed HF was genuine after EoD Day1, but today has been a Giant Shit show. Far too willing to just accept this lynch, and try to just set me up as the next target.

Vivax is the person making the most sense here. I'm thinking HF/Rayn paired and maybe Calix as scum team.

Sheeping you Vivax.


Really appreciate that feedback as a welcome change especially considering I'm playing a modestly assholeish almost like in old times but it's not calix, it's Oats. Calix softed blue I recently noticed so should die tonight is my guess.

hf + rayn makes perfect sense though. Also explains why rayn hasn't been all over HF this game yet even after noticing him pushing me for some bs reason regarding the things that didn't add up about ES.

Either way need to convince the townies that are corrupted by HFs charming malice which I would guess are calix tube and very tentatively skynx and even CH who was kind of my last bastion of hope before you showed up.

Damdred slot is coinflippy but I still feel good about him from our early interaction and him speaking up against my lynch.

Dunno, maybe you can come up with a way to drill through those skulls.


in case it wasnt clear atm i’m not really townreading hf

his play is too stupid to be town here imo and he freely admitted he isnt reading


And what instances in this game show that I'm "not reading" and my play is "stupid"?

It's nice to throw out rhetoric but at least back it up. You listed exo as your scum read just like I did, you don't even scum read rayn (just like I do) but say we should lynch him, voted es today because it made sense.

So why this now?


ok this post right here, this is bs

i listed exo as my scum read? when the fuck did i do that? at some point with ever being scum i thought exo was also scum but with ever flipping town that association is useless

i even talked about how i am reading tube as town but i dont think more than one of skynx, exo, and calix can be scum

guess you didnt read that huh


Let's just forget this post is a giant dodge of the questions I asked so I'll repeat them.

And what instances in this game show that I'm "not reading" and my play is "stupid"?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 13 2018 06:29 GMT
#1880
Me not reading properly or misremembering something isn't even a scum tell. In fact it's the exact thing I've been pushed for in the past 3 town games I've been in. Maybe you should give them a read.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 13 2018 06:43 GMT
#1881
This entire conversation is even pointless. I haven't listed you as a scum read, I'm merely pointing out inconsistencies that you haven't even explained because you're trying to jump on the hf is mafia bandwagon.
So explain them and get on my level.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 13 2018 06:48 GMT
#1883
Exo is mafia because he has espoused all day and all night that I'm town non-stop and that he would sheep me. He acknowledges that I scum read Eversince but he thinks that she is NOT going to flip town but that's ok. So, when Eversince flipped town and everything in his mind should be confirmed and I haven't done anything differently he completely drops the read on me.

He was even voting calix, the person that I cased and thought was the most likely to flip mafia if es was town.

Apparently I have fallen off since day 1 but he shows no evidence that he ever thought that, no qualms about my play at all until multiple people start throwing my name around. Nothing should have changed for him.

Combined with his es thoughts being the scummiest I am very sure he is mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 13 2018 06:49 GMT
#1885
Are you fucking stupid? How is it the best play if I don't think rayn is mafia to lynch rayn?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 13 2018 06:51 GMT
#1887
On April 13 2018 15:48 currentlyhomeless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2018 15:43 Holyflare wrote:
This entire conversation is even pointless. I haven't listed you as a scum read, I'm merely pointing out inconsistencies that you haven't even explained because you're trying to jump on the hf is mafia bandwagon.
So explain them and get on my level.


what kind of horseshit is this

i agree, it is a waste of time. since you seem to already know rayn will flip scum, fuck the policy lynch, let’s lynch you tomorrow

if i die tn pls lynch hf

On April 13 2018 07:41 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2018 07:40 Holyflare wrote:
On April 13 2018 07:39 Vivax wrote:
Do you even have a single townread HF?


I don't actually lol.


Probably rayn tbh.

On April 13 2018 08:21 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2018 05:45 Holyflare wrote:
rayn probably ends up being mafia with a gun now though or some pointless bull shit

Show nested quote +
On April 13 2018 05:48 Holyflare wrote:
nah probably not


It was definitely not pessimistic rhetoric or anything.


What a load of shit.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 13 2018 06:54 GMT
#1889
On April 13 2018 12:36 ExO_ wrote:
I really believed HF was genuine after EoD Day1, but today has been a Giant Shit show. Far too willing to just accept this lynch, and try to just set me up as the next target.

Vivax is the person making the most sense here. I'm thinking HF/Rayn paired and maybe Calix as scum team
.

Sheeping you Vivax.


He's gone from saying he's sheeping me and I'm definitely town and he already thought Eversince was going to flip town :

On April 12 2018 05:28 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2018 05:22 Calix wrote:
On April 12 2018 05:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
lol if mafia is just not voting at the moment


Actually possible too, lmao.

On April 12 2018 05:18 ExO_ wrote:
On April 12 2018 04:43 Holyflare wrote:
On April 12 2018 04:15 Calix wrote:
On April 12 2018 04:11 Holyflare wrote:
Hang on.

Es is always the kill here. If she's mafia it might confirm a sk alive too.


Huh?


If ES is mafia she knows there's one night kill but NOT that it was glowingbear. It might be because their shot got blocked or because mafia didn't kill glowingbear.



This would require ES as scum to assume their KP went through and not bother to read the night 1 post....on top of faking everything else. Its TOO many things that have to happen for ES to be scum that involve a combination of knowledge and faking.

It doesn’t seem likely to me. It’s like pairing water and oil, it just doesn’t mix together in my mind. I think ES far more likely is just a town struggling on TL for the first time


Nobody said she's faking all her mistakes about Gunsmith. I think Oats is the only person who ever suggested Eversince was 'trying to act too bad to be scum' and he doesn't even think that anymore. It's been established that she could fuck up with reading comprehension as any alignment. Get with the times innit.

Eversince has played more than one game on TL, lol?

Why are you more focused on defending Eversince than finding scum or engaging with your scum reads?


Because I believe ES is town. I didn’t realize ES hadn’t played before on TL, I thought I read this was first time playing on TL. and I mistaken?

I’ve never been great at reading scum. Right now I’m suspicious of You, Rayn, Vivax. I think I can definetely see you and Rayn together. What I’m more certain of tho is that
HF is town, and ES is town. And I think HF thinks ES is probably scum. So I think its important I try to defend ES since I don’t think ES is scum. Other than that Ill probably be sheeping HF.



Nothing has changed at all.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 13 2018 06:55 GMT
#1890
On April 13 2018 15:53 currentlyhomeless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2018 15:49 Holyflare wrote:
Are you fucking stupid? How is it the best play if I don't think rayn is mafia to lynch rayn?


you said it yourself if rayn has a gun we lose

the only way to prevent a mislynch lose scenario on d3 is to kill the player who might have a gun cause hes scum and lied about not having it

like yea we can go kill a scum too if we have a red check or some other semi confirmed shit but thats why the policy lynch is optimal, it makes sure we dont lose instantly



And that's where your opinion and mine differs. Policy is a weak cop out when I'd much rather just be right and lynch my mafia reads. Not going to change my mind.
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