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if so. Otherwise, I'd like to obs.
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On March 16 2018 15:09 Alakaslam wrote: Yeah I imagine, the condition TL Mafia is in? They’ll let you in. If not feel free to shadow me. I'll keep that in mind, thanks.  On March 16 2018 15:36 Vivax wrote: Did you submit an application and psych eval to blazinghand? Oh my, was that necessary. Would you be so kind as to direct me to the application form. My psych evaluation might take a while to materialize though, need to | ||
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On March 20 2018 10:30 Tictock wrote: Hi ykl. I hope you are prepared for how quickly this game is likely to pick up. People usually throw out votes super early around here to kinda get the ball rolling, though it is up to you to determine how serious these votes are. + Show Spoiler + Hint: Koshi's votes are not likely to be very serious It sounds like you might be familiar with Forum Mafia, do you play on another site? Eh, its fine. The filter just isolates posters right? pretty useful feature, the rest of the site could use it. I've never played forum-based before, just other versions of Mafia. Anyway, so that this isn't just a pointless spam post. I don't think I like the weird posting style darthfoley is using, seems like a deliberate attempt to muddy up waters for no good reason. I don't like the early call out from Conversion or ExO-, both are very weak reads based off almost no data. I don't think either are scum but I think you'd be chasing down the wrong path. | ||
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On March 20 2018 10:58 Mocsta wrote: PING. What gives this impression other than TMI. Post 9 / 12 I don't think either are acting scummy by trying to get the ball rolling but they're doing so with really shitty reasons? | ||
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On March 20 2018 11:07 Alakaslam wrote: Pffffffffffft no sson. Trying to get the ball rolling is a great way to hide- by rowing the boat and singing “Holhiro, Duwiiduwiidii...” all the way to Naziland and scum victory. Scum can be passive and active, and frankly had Mocsta not pointed out your stance there I’d be going after Conversion atm. That's a pretty fair point and I guess I'm more used to passive scum. It seems horrifically weird that you want to go out that early to accuse someone when you're scum and draw attention. IDK, I usually read that as "good but dumb". Also, I don't mind if you want to put suspicion on me, my posts haven't been great and I'm trying to work out how this goes. Just make sure to read other people too. | ||
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On March 20 2018 11:22 Alakaslam wrote: See this is more valid. Let us lynch ykl I Vote this now Hmm, you want to vote for me but you can't check the voting thread to see if Moosy actually voted for himself there? This seems quite weird. | ||
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On March 20 2018 11:27 Alakaslam wrote: HMM YOU FUCKING SHITS CAN SHIT ON ME FOR NOT LOOKING AT THE VOTE THREAD BUT YOU CANT READ MY OWN VOTE WHEN I was motivated enough to migrate Holy shit if you all are this pedantic and paranoid no wonder you scumread Noobking, runoff fear from last game holy shit. Eh, horrible timing. Also you seem to be able to spam a lot of youtube videos for someone that struggles to even open up 2 threads on the forums on your phone. Guess its a lot easier to juggle two apps on mobile eh? | ||
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On March 20 2018 11:35 Alakaslam wrote: Like I said, I’m the biggest hypocrite here 😉 Makes it quite hard to have a logical flow if there's 4 or 5 post in between my every reply to you, sorry. Call out was not really fair to you. I didn't actually notice the vote thread updating then. | ||
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On March 20 2018 12:01 Mocsta wrote: Hi ykl, Above is a gross simplification. Refering to #232 TMI related to you expressing that: Ex0, Conversion, Moosey & n00bking are all "chasing down the wrong path". This does not only infer they are all not scum. But that they are also all town - enough that further info is not needed. Your explanation since does not address the Moosey/n00bking element either. Post 10 / 14 Ah, that's pretty weird. Intention was only to say ExO- and Conversion are chasing down the wrong path, bad wording from my part. I wouldn't say that no further info is needed and they are all confirmed town, just that I don't read either of them as "scum" at the moment and that when I made the post, neither case was particularly well thought out? I really don't have much to say about Moosy or n00bking. Moosy has been trying to off himself, which screams someone that really doesn't want to play the game or is frustrated about something, could swing either way to be honest? I don't think what he's doing is helpful at the moment but its ignorable. n00bking, I really got more interested in the last post he made. Completely ignored the scumread from Conversion and does not seem to want to interact with him at all, instead makes a quick side track to challenge Ticktock instead. | ||
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Yeah, slightly. Nice deflect though, would you still want to address why you choose to completely ignore the person that's scum reading and voting for you? I'm also having a hard time seeing where you are voting for makes sense. You apparently scumread both me and disformation but never really provided a good explanation as to why you think Koshi's vote on disformation is a good case at all to the point where you'd follow that vote instead. | ||
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On March 20 2018 16:00 Mocsta wrote: Rayn, Work with me on ykl please. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/532111-classic-mafia?user=ykl On one hand, I find ykl to be calm, open and displaying a bona fide motivation to contribute. On the other hand, I find the content to be very reactive, and in some ways, forced. I can see this coming from town or scum - what are you current thoughts? + Show Spoiler [ykl thoughts] + #232 still feels to me like TMI - DF may be annoying a few people, but ykl is the only that states he is muddying up waters. - The Convo/Ex0 read I still find an odd position to hold; as forum/IRL games both have players capable of "getting the ball rolling" as scum. My only pause is that many players do treat this as a heuristic - So it is not necessarily a false claim to state. #260 alludes to the heuristic being based on experience. So I could drop that convo/Ex0 read as a scum tell in isolation. #269 is an odd interpretation of events and the addition of "misguided" requires ykl to assume I think n00bking is scum. This is against what ykl has communicated as a read, which I believe, should trigger a query to me. #279 can be interpreted as mimicking thread sentiment at worst, or a change of opinion with new knowledge at best. Suddenly, moosy/NK are considered scummy. Interestingly enough, should this not also result in an adjustment to Ex0 and Conversion who have now called out scummy people? #286 now inserts OMGUS as a reason to consider NK. Perhaps was already tending towards this outcome in #269. post 12 / 15 (Sorry, small aside, what's an OMGUS?) | ||
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On March 20 2018 16:19 Mocsta wrote: This is too cute I had to burn a post. But not adding this to the tally. OMGUS = Oh My God You Suck. Basically, Player A votes Player B. Player B goes.. ohh my god.. Player A is totally scum because how could anyone think I am scum. Player B then votes Player A - hence OMGUS. perhaps rsoultin was right and you are a newbie. Or you two successfully gamed me in the scumQT. btw, QT = quicktopic LOLLOLOLOLOLSorry to burn your post quota like that but that actually did fly over my head. Now to actually add to the conversation, I'm slightly more interested in the post where you scumread Ticktock, I'm not really seeing where you're drawing the conclusion that he is one from, care to help elaborate? I know you unvoted but it would still help if you can provide the reasoning behind what prompted you to do so in the first place. | ||
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Sorry, I tend to check LD from work but got stuck in an extended meeting earlier. I'll get caught up ASAP. | ||
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On March 21 2018 12:09 n00bKing wrote: lol, nearly ALL of the pressure ykl received was prompted by me. It is not my fault that he was protected by two other players, and then LEFT. The game structure only allows for me to generate so much pressure on another player, you know? I've done what I can, and it's a lot more than the many players who are neither driving discussion nor commenting on discussion nor even VOTING. Oh, I do NOT expect that number to increase. Not if those players are competent. I am always a terrible early lynch candidate, which is why I've only been lynched Day 1 ONE time. Ever. And no, I wasn't scum. And no, the town did not manage to win without me. Uhm, quick reply to this since I was picking through your filter. Err, no? The only legit pressure I got was from Mocsta much earlier. You did a single line of "more votes on ykl will be nice" into a dismissive statement when I asked something. Granted, I wasn't really around to follow up on this after, which was my bad so it didn't pan out completely. But how is someone supposed to answer this: On March 20 2018 17:23 n00bKing wrote: "Still?" I don't think I ever offered any indication that I was interested in addressing that. If I end up having something to say to Conversion, I'll do so. "Instead?" Like, instead of following some other vote? Which vote was I supposed to follow "instead?" Without immediately devolving into a shitflinging fest that contributes nothing? | ||
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Only skimming through Mocsta's and that's a vig claim huh. Not sure how to process that but I can't see this as anything other than a bad move if true. Need a quick break, I'm gonna come back later and read the other stuff. | ||
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On March 21 2018 17:36 n00bKing wrote: Maybe we'll find out, as soon as you answer it? Fine, if you want to be that way: Why are you voting for disformation instead of me when you're clearly scumreading both of us? I didn't see what the case on disformation was that led a straight vote. Are you happy now. | ||
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On March 21 2018 21:56 disformation wrote: rayn's overall filter is kinda meh. doesn't look horrible on a glance, but has not a lot of impact either. his reason to vote me checks out. also seems to be very busy. rayn has fooled me before though so i'll reserve the right to some paranoia. not sure if i would want to lynch him for that d1, but if his filter is still meh and he has had no impact on a later day, i would heavily recommend lynching him. Wait what, you wouldn't want to lynch him but recommend others lynching? explain?? | ||
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On March 21 2018 22:00 ykl wrote: Wait what, you wouldn't want to lynch him but recommend others lynching? explain?? Wait fuck, misread what you were trying to say, sorry. | ||
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On March 22 2018 07:50 rsoultin wrote: Took you four minutes to formulate this sentence did it? Nope, tablet just sucks at loading and typing. | ||
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Quick reply to n00bking firstly: I was kind of hesitating on the first day vote, that was quite terrible and came about since I woke up at 6am trying to do a last minute decision before the deadline at 7am my time. Probably not the best of ideas. I made a snap judgement between the front runners and it was pretty much that. I'm also not too sure where you're reading fear from tbh, I've been nothing but very open and the fear/dodging that you want to attribute to me was more lack of time just having to keep up with the thread. And also: "instead" of putting your vote on me. So general game stuff: Going by the flip on Holyflare and Vivax and assuming that both were targeted because their reads were on track, there's probably a pool of KelsierSC, Koshi, rsoultin, raynpelikoneet, ticktock, fecalfeast there? I'd try and filter them out one by one later to take a look. Can anyone point out which page was the start of the rels push, I want reread what the heck happened there since I was slightly sleep dazed and reading off a tablet. | ||
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Its not really a complicated thought process. Scum notices them getting suspected -> scum panics -> scum kills to get people off their trail. Its pretty much the simplest conclusion possible and probably the dumbest one but I'm a really stupid person so I'll go with this first before considering the paranoia theory that they were targeted because they're wrong to sow some confusion. Unless you have a better suggestion for me to look into, I'll give it my utmost consideration. | ||
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