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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 22 2018 13:28 GMT
#1661
oh and do consider:

if HF is right on noobking it makes him more towny, because he made a correct case for the correct reasons on mafia.
if HF is wrong, that doesn't really say anything. Townies are wrong all the time. If he's wrong, it's time to look at his other reads and contributions. Being wrong isn't scummy.
Computer says mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 22 2018 13:30 GMT
#1662
On March 22 2018 22:18 Conversion wrote:
@HF the only thing that doesn’t make sense from scum!Mocsta os why he would look to change wagons so much when he had a real threat of being lynched. like tbh if he just went for easy wagons I would have gone on him


????? Are you mafia.

Mocsta only changed wagons ONCE when he entered after waking up to YOU and then joined the wagon on rels. What wagon hopping did he do?
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
March 22 2018 13:33 GMT
#1663
On March 22 2018 22:30 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 22:18 Conversion wrote:
@HF the only thing that doesn’t make sense from scum!Mocsta os why he would look to change wagons so much when he had a real threat of being lynched. like tbh if he just went for easy wagons I would have gone on him


????? Are you mafia.

Mocsta only changed wagons ONCE when he entered after waking up to YOU and then joined the wagon on rels. What wagon hopping did he do?


yes I am mafia and I am going to shoot you tomorrow

anyways, I thought he jumped more than just on Rels. let me actually take a look
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 22 2018 13:35 GMT
#1664
#1659
Good post

As an aside.
I slowed down on n00b after filter diving.

N00b is verbose as both alignments and i just felt it was too painful to decipher

Thrn second half of day1 n00b was slightly less focused on theorycrafting so have left alone to see what pans out


I think i still prefer an exo lynch
Cant get over that first post
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
March 22 2018 13:35 GMT
#1665
hm. I guess it’s NAI since Rels wagon picked up enough steam and my wagon lost steam but yeah hejust jumped once
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 22 2018 13:37 GMT
#1666
On March 22 2018 22:33 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 22:30 Holyflare wrote:
On March 22 2018 22:18 Conversion wrote:
@HF the only thing that doesn’t make sense from scum!Mocsta os why he would look to change wagons so much when he had a real threat of being lynched. like tbh if he just went for easy wagons I would have gone on him


????? Are you mafia.

Mocsta only changed wagons ONCE when he entered after waking up to YOU and then joined the wagon on rels. What wagon hopping did he do?


yes I am mafia and I am going to shoot you tomorrow

anyways, I thought he jumped more than just on Rels. let me actually take a look

Wtf... this is bizairre


You said at the timr you wouldnt vote me back as you thought i was town

Like... very strong feeling during stressful moment.
I dont know how you are now at this point??
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 22 2018 13:38 GMT
#1667
On March 22 2018 07:28 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 07:27 Mocsta wrote:
i have to vote conversion at this point just to save myself ffs.
i dont think i filter-dived him before, so taking a leap of faith.

wtf is going on.


Relax, buddy. I won't vote you to save myself. I believe you are town and this wagon picking up steam is definitely not pure, so I think town will be able to get mafia out of it.

This one
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 22 2018 13:38 GMT
#1668
On March 22 2018 22:33 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 22:30 Holyflare wrote:
On March 22 2018 22:18 Conversion wrote:
@HF the only thing that doesn’t make sense from scum!Mocsta os why he would look to change wagons so much when he had a real threat of being lynched. like tbh if he just went for easy wagons I would have gone on him


????? Are you mafia.

Mocsta only changed wagons ONCE when he entered after waking up to YOU and then joined the wagon on rels. What wagon hopping did he do?


yes I am mafia and I am going to shoot you tomorrow

anyways, I thought he jumped more than just on Rels. let me actually take a look


weak fake scumclaim with no humorous effect noted.
Computer says mafia
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 22 2018 13:40 GMT
#1669
On March 22 2018 22:38 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 22:33 Conversion wrote:
On March 22 2018 22:30 Holyflare wrote:
On March 22 2018 22:18 Conversion wrote:
@HF the only thing that doesn’t make sense from scum!Mocsta os why he would look to change wagons so much when he had a real threat of being lynched. like tbh if he just went for easy wagons I would have gone on him


????? Are you mafia.

Mocsta only changed wagons ONCE when he entered after waking up to YOU and then joined the wagon on rels. What wagon hopping did he do?


yes I am mafia and I am going to shoot you tomorrow

anyways, I thought he jumped more than just on Rels. let me actually take a look


weak fake scumclaim with no humorous effect noted.

Lol according to ya vig priority lynch he doesnt qualify lol

Not confirmed and not lying and not lurker

;p
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
March 22 2018 13:41 GMT
#1670
On March 22 2018 22:38 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 07:28 Conversion wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:27 Mocsta wrote:
i have to vote conversion at this point just to save myself ffs.
i dont think i filter-dived him before, so taking a leap of faith.

wtf is going on.


Relax, buddy. I won't vote you to save myself. I believe you are town and this wagon picking up steam is definitely not pure, so I think town will be able to get mafia out of it.

This one


I wouldn’t vote you to save myself, but I’d vote you (in hindsight) if you stuck onto me like opportunistic scum. I didn’t see you that in that light now and I am trying to see other possibilities with Rels flipping town. I also am not really typing well on my phone. Going to get on a laptop
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
March 22 2018 13:41 GMT
#1671
On March 22 2018 21:54 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 21:15 n00bKing wrote:
Or should they not kill anyone, hold their shot, and hope to get off a shot later in the game?


I think there's two approaches here I would consider:

Shoot Disinfo. Operate on the assumption that Scum won't target him for KP going into Night 1. If he's telling the truth I'll know then. Especially with the way the voting went (chaos after he blue claimed) maybe could use his thoughts and my own thoughts to formulate an educated opinion on who is scum. And if he was lying, easy scum dead.


Alternatively I might shoot Vivax. Might just be OMGUS but I don't think Vivax has scum hunted this game. I think his post have largely distracted town and can't make sense coming from a towny point of view. He's scum reading both myself and Keslier -- this doesn't make sense in my opinion. Particularly with the discussion I had with Keslier earlier in the day. And I don't think he's ever given a good explanation.

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 22 2018 03:32 Calix wrote:

Day 1 Vote Count



disformation [5]: Koshi, n00bking, KelsierSC, raynpelikoneet, Holyflare
n00bking [4]: Conversion, Holyflare, Mocsta, MoosyDoosy, Tictock, Fecalfeast, disformation
KelsierSC [2]: ExO_, darthfoley
rsoultin [1]: Alakaslam, Rels
ExO_ [1]: Vivax, Tictock, MoosyDoosy
Alakaslam [1]: rsoultin
Rels [1]: Mocsta
ykl [0]: Alakaslam
Mocsta [0]: MoosyDoosy
Tictock [0]: Mocsta, MoosyDoosy
Palmar [0]: Koshi

Not Voting [5]: ykl, Palmar, sicklucker, disformation, Alakaslam


disformation is currently the lynch.

The deadline is Wednesday, Mar 21 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in .

If there is an error in the vote count, let us know via PM.


On March 22 2018 03:48 Vivax wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote KelsierSC




At the time, Keslier is the 3rd wagon but 2 votes behind. He hops on the wagon with me, his primary scum read all game. I'm just not sure I believe if he really thinks I'm scum he's going to hop on a wagon with me to try to get traction for a new target (or just throw his vote away on 3rd party).


So Vivax or Disinfo. I feel like if I was a better player I would go with Disinfo because potentially more information could be learned by confirming he's blue. However I personally would be more likely to go with Vivxa: I think he's likely to be scum.

Thanks. A potential flaw in your disformation plan is that, again, he could be a mafia Veteran. So I think that would keep him from being a good Vigilante target, even aside from the talk of how a Vigilante is better off shooting into the trash-tier people who aren't really playing.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 22 2018 13:41 GMT
#1672
On March 22 2018 22:18 Conversion wrote:
@HF the only thing that doesn’t make sense from scum!Mocsta os why he would look to change wagons so much when he had a real threat of being lynched. like tbh if he just went for easy wagons I would have gone on him

This is so weird... technically you were an easy wagon??

Why are yoy doing this?
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 22 2018 13:41 GMT
#1673
On March 22 2018 22:40 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 22:38 Palmar wrote:
On March 22 2018 22:33 Conversion wrote:
On March 22 2018 22:30 Holyflare wrote:
On March 22 2018 22:18 Conversion wrote:
@HF the only thing that doesn’t make sense from scum!Mocsta os why he would look to change wagons so much when he had a real threat of being lynched. like tbh if he just went for easy wagons I would have gone on him


????? Are you mafia.

Mocsta only changed wagons ONCE when he entered after waking up to YOU and then joined the wagon on rels. What wagon hopping did he do?


yes I am mafia and I am going to shoot you tomorrow

anyways, I thought he jumped more than just on Rels. let me actually take a look


weak fake scumclaim with no humorous effect noted.

Lol according to ya vig priority lynch he doesnt qualify lol

Not confirmed and not lying and not lurker

;p


sure, but that doesn't mean I'm disallowed to talk about mafia.

I tend to die on n1, so I like saying things.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 22 2018 13:42 GMT
#1674
although to be fair, conversion is close to being a lurker, he has no memorable interactions I can think of
Computer says mafia
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
March 22 2018 13:43 GMT
#1675
On March 22 2018 22:41 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 22:18 Conversion wrote:
@HF the only thing that doesn’t make sense from scum!Mocsta os why he would look to change wagons so much when he had a real threat of being lynched. like tbh if he just went for easy wagons I would have gone on him

This is so weird... technically you were an easy wagon??

Why are yoy doing this?


I was an easy wagon? Most people had me at a “I’ll lynch Conversion over x since I am not getting my primary lynch,” it randomly picked up steam, and then 6 people jumped on me in a mater of minutes. Maybe 1-2 people had actual reasons on why they thought I was scum on my wagon
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
March 22 2018 13:43 GMT
#1676
On March 22 2018 22:25 Palmar wrote:
I haven't read hf's reasons for thinking mocsta is mafia, but I have no big reasons to think mocsta is scum outside of his very weak entry. Someone asked me if Mocsta dropping the post restriction is more town or scum, and I think it's more likely to be town, as I don't think he was ever in any real danger of being lynched.

Yeah, that was me who asked you that, and apparently you agree with the evaluation I posted.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 22 2018 13:44 GMT
#1677
On March 22 2018 22:41 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2018 22:38 Mocsta wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:28 Conversion wrote:
On March 22 2018 07:27 Mocsta wrote:
i have to vote conversion at this point just to save myself ffs.
i dont think i filter-dived him before, so taking a leap of faith.

wtf is going on.


Relax, buddy. I won't vote you to save myself. I believe you are town and this wagon picking up steam is definitely not pure, so I think town will be able to get mafia out of it.

This one


I wouldn’t vote you to save myself, but I’d vote you (in hindsight) if you stuck onto me like opportunistic scum. I didn’t see you that in that light now and I am trying to see other possibilities with Rels flipping town. I also am not really typing well on my phone. Going to get on a laptop

Ahh makes sense
Carry on

You not countervoting was a town tell to me. Phew

What do you think about rels and rsoultin?
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
March 22 2018 13:44 GMT
#1678
matter of minutes is an exaggeration, but it happened fast
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 22 2018 13:46 GMT
#1679
On March 22 2018 22:44 Conversion wrote:
matter of minutes is an exaggeration, but it happened fast
indeed.
I remeber it like it was this morning.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
March 22 2018 13:49 GMT
#1680
On March 22 2018 22:42 Palmar wrote:
although to be fair, conversion is close to being a lurker, he has no memorable interactions I can think of


This is a correct evaluation and where I should be in most people’s minds, IMO.

I will play more seriously now for whatever that counts for.
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