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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 21 2018 01:37 GMT
#661
On March 21 2018 10:35 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 10:31 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 21 2018 10:29 Tictock wrote:
Almost caught up. Well still ~5 pages behind, but home now and got everything that was distracting me out of the way.

@ KSC
Right now I am fairly comfortable calling you, Rayn, Vivax, and HF town. Nothing great as to why, just level of effort, tone, and investedness from you guys makes it fairly likely you are all town. At the very least I think you are all off the table for lynch today.

I am also fairly convinced Moosy is scum. He is the read I mentioned awhile ago.

Basically Moosy's mood has done a complete 180 from his initial bit of spam, which was more in line with what I'd expect from a town!Moosy. As far as I can tell he forced his initial bit of spam to make some kind of effort, but really can't be bothered to play scum twice in a row.

His latest bouts of posts are more emo shit, and his scum list at the end of pg 28 is just OMGUS. I'd expect a town!Moosy to be happy and at least a bit trolly for having rolled Town this game, but I just see a disgruntled person reluctantly playing.

I didn't want to post this read earlier as there is clearly something going on with Moosy given his /out and somewhat reluctant re/in, but I'm betting it was just fear of rolling scum in this large of a game having just lost as scum.

This post is almost correct except I enjoy playing Mafia and I hate playing VT

Actually scrap that. Tictock's post is complete garbage like Mocsta's earlier post on me. Both have no idea what the point of my activity at the start of the game was and why my list is the way it is.
Educate me. cos Wikipedia classifies moose/elk are the largest species in the deer family.. bruh
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 21 2018 01:38 GMT
#662
On March 21 2018 10:37 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 10:35 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 21 2018 10:31 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 21 2018 10:29 Tictock wrote:
Almost caught up. Well still ~5 pages behind, but home now and got everything that was distracting me out of the way.

@ KSC
Right now I am fairly comfortable calling you, Rayn, Vivax, and HF town. Nothing great as to why, just level of effort, tone, and investedness from you guys makes it fairly likely you are all town. At the very least I think you are all off the table for lynch today.

I am also fairly convinced Moosy is scum. He is the read I mentioned awhile ago.

Basically Moosy's mood has done a complete 180 from his initial bit of spam, which was more in line with what I'd expect from a town!Moosy. As far as I can tell he forced his initial bit of spam to make some kind of effort, but really can't be bothered to play scum twice in a row.

His latest bouts of posts are more emo shit, and his scum list at the end of pg 28 is just OMGUS. I'd expect a town!Moosy to be happy and at least a bit trolly for having rolled Town this game, but I just see a disgruntled person reluctantly playing.

I didn't want to post this read earlier as there is clearly something going on with Moosy given his /out and somewhat reluctant re/in, but I'm betting it was just fear of rolling scum in this large of a game having just lost as scum.

This post is almost correct except I enjoy playing Mafia and I hate playing VT

Actually scrap that. Tictock's post is complete garbage like Mocsta's earlier post on me. Both have no idea what the point of my activity at the start of the game was and why my list is the way it is.
Educate me. cos Wikipedia classifies moose/elk are the largest species in the deer family.. bruh

Just because moose are in the deer family doesn't mean they're deer....
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 21 2018 01:39 GMT
#663
On March 21 2018 07:35 Palmar wrote:
Also ff is not trustworthy


I assume this is you calling FF scum?

I don't know who in their right mind would make any decision based on what FF says. Or why you would be worried that people might listen to FF for that matter.
I can take that responsibility.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 21 2018 01:40 GMT
#664
On March 21 2018 10:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 10:37 Mocsta wrote:
On March 21 2018 10:35 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 21 2018 10:31 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 21 2018 10:29 Tictock wrote:
Almost caught up. Well still ~5 pages behind, but home now and got everything that was distracting me out of the way.

@ KSC
Right now I am fairly comfortable calling you, Rayn, Vivax, and HF town. Nothing great as to why, just level of effort, tone, and investedness from you guys makes it fairly likely you are all town. At the very least I think you are all off the table for lynch today.

I am also fairly convinced Moosy is scum. He is the read I mentioned awhile ago.

Basically Moosy's mood has done a complete 180 from his initial bit of spam, which was more in line with what I'd expect from a town!Moosy. As far as I can tell he forced his initial bit of spam to make some kind of effort, but really can't be bothered to play scum twice in a row.

His latest bouts of posts are more emo shit, and his scum list at the end of pg 28 is just OMGUS. I'd expect a town!Moosy to be happy and at least a bit trolly for having rolled Town this game, but I just see a disgruntled person reluctantly playing.

I didn't want to post this read earlier as there is clearly something going on with Moosy given his /out and somewhat reluctant re/in, but I'm betting it was just fear of rolling scum in this large of a game having just lost as scum.

This post is almost correct except I enjoy playing Mafia and I hate playing VT

Actually scrap that. Tictock's post is complete garbage like Mocsta's earlier post on me. Both have no idea what the point of my activity at the start of the game was and why my list is the way it is.
Educate me. cos Wikipedia classifies moose/elk are the largest species in the deer family.. bruh

Just because moose are in the deer family doesn't mean they're deer....
Au contraire. I was referring to the biological family vs the species

So with that misunderstanding out of the way. Please educate me on what you were seeking to achieve with the start of game; and scum list.

Im all ears.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 21 2018 01:41 GMT
#665
On March 21 2018 10:39 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 07:35 Palmar wrote:
Also ff is not trustworthy


I assume this is you calling FF scum?

I don't know who in their right mind would make any decision based on what FF says. Or why you would be worried that people might listen to FF for that matter.

Smartest post about me ever
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 21 2018 01:47 GMT
#666
On March 21 2018 07:46 Mocsta wrote:

tictock is in null pile as I was surprised by the content since waking. Maybe im selfish, but I was quite surprised he didnt ask me anything.


?

I don't give a shit you temp scum read me (for pretty meh reasons), and I'm leaning town on you atm.

Got bigger fish bro.

I am surprised you agree with the notion of leaving Moosy off the lynch block today though. Not that he is my top scum read or dying to lynch him myself, but I do think he has a pretty good chance of being mafia at this point.

Idk, just weird to see multiple people take this "ignore Moosy" stance.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 21 2018 01:50 GMT
#667
Eh, I should hold off posting till I'm all caught up.

Just finished pg 30 and now I'm less sure of my Moosy read >.<
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 21 2018 01:51 GMT
#668
On March 21 2018 08:15 Fecalfeast wrote:
Hot take moose is actually town


Can't resist...

I'm creeped out by this mind-meld.
I can take that responsibility.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 21 2018 01:51 GMT
#669
On March 21 2018 10:40 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 10:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 21 2018 10:37 Mocsta wrote:
On March 21 2018 10:35 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 21 2018 10:31 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 21 2018 10:29 Tictock wrote:
Almost caught up. Well still ~5 pages behind, but home now and got everything that was distracting me out of the way.

@ KSC
Right now I am fairly comfortable calling you, Rayn, Vivax, and HF town. Nothing great as to why, just level of effort, tone, and investedness from you guys makes it fairly likely you are all town. At the very least I think you are all off the table for lynch today.

I am also fairly convinced Moosy is scum. He is the read I mentioned awhile ago.

Basically Moosy's mood has done a complete 180 from his initial bit of spam, which was more in line with what I'd expect from a town!Moosy. As far as I can tell he forced his initial bit of spam to make some kind of effort, but really can't be bothered to play scum twice in a row.

His latest bouts of posts are more emo shit, and his scum list at the end of pg 28 is just OMGUS. I'd expect a town!Moosy to be happy and at least a bit trolly for having rolled Town this game, but I just see a disgruntled person reluctantly playing.

I didn't want to post this read earlier as there is clearly something going on with Moosy given his /out and somewhat reluctant re/in, but I'm betting it was just fear of rolling scum in this large of a game having just lost as scum.

This post is almost correct except I enjoy playing Mafia and I hate playing VT

Actually scrap that. Tictock's post is complete garbage like Mocsta's earlier post on me. Both have no idea what the point of my activity at the start of the game was and why my list is the way it is.
Educate me. cos Wikipedia classifies moose/elk are the largest species in the deer family.. bruh

Just because moose are in the deer family doesn't mean they're deer....
Au contraire. I was referring to the biological family vs the species

So with that misunderstanding out of the way. Please educate me on what you were seeking to achieve with the start of game; and scum list.

Im all ears.

There's 20 people in this game. A lot. Some that have played with me before some that have not. So I can safely employ my early trolling strat in order to bait reactions. 100% of the time one Mafia at the very least always goes after me. This has never not been true so far.

So I shitposted at the start and saw what people wrote on me. The reason why my lynch pool is as broad as it is atm is because I know there's a Mafia in there. I'm going to vote only in my pool and that's all.

Pool here:
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On March 21 2018 08:08 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 07:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 21 2018 06:04 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Mafia is in:

ykl, ExO_, Tictock, Mocsta

ykl
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On March 20 2018 12:16 ykl wrote:
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On March 20 2018 12:01 Mocsta wrote:
On March 20 2018 11:32 ykl wrote:
Also, the whole reason Mocsta even called me out to begin with was that I thought Conversion's early call on n00bking was misguided.
Hi ykl,
Above is a gross simplification.

Refering to #232
TMI related to you expressing that: Ex0, Conversion, Moosey & n00bking are all "chasing down the wrong path".

This does not only infer they are all not scum. But that they are also all town - enough that further info is not needed.

Your explanation since does not address the Moosey/n00bking element either.

Post 10 / 14






Ah, that's pretty weird. Intention was only to say ExO- and Conversion are chasing down the wrong path, bad wording from my part. I wouldn't say that no further info is needed and they are all confirmed town, just that I don't read either of them as "scum" at the moment and that when I made the post, neither case was particularly well thought out?

I really don't have much to say about Moosy or n00bking. Moosy has been trying to off himself, which screams someone that really doesn't want to play the game or is frustrated about something, could swing either way to be honest? I don't think what he's doing is helpful at the moment but its ignorable.

n00bking, I really got more interested in the last post he made. Completely ignored the scumread from Conversion and does not seem to want to interact with him at all, instead makes a quick side track to challenge Ticktock instead.


ExO_
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On March 20 2018 08:09 ExO_ wrote:
Moosy I’m going to try my best to assess you fairly,
but damn you’re like a hyperactive kid in a Candy store.

But you come into the thread saying you need someone to explain the setup because you can’t be arsed to read it....after you /out earlier because of number of players.

Scum leaning on you for this reason.


On March 20 2018 10:40 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 08:57 Vivax wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:09 ExO_ wrote:
Moosy I’m going to try my best to assess you fairly,
but damn you’re like a hyperactive kid in a Candy store.

But you come into the thread saying you need someone to explain the setup because you can’t be arsed to read it....after you /out earlier because of number of players.

Scum leaning on you for this reason.


I think this is an awful reason to scumread Moosy. ExO picked the first inconsistency he could find.

And what is it even?

Moosy scum lean cause he wanted setup explained but he /outed earlier because of the amount of players and if he does the first he can't do the latter??? I don't even see the connection between the two sentences.



My theory is if he’s /outing because of number of players he’s probably read the setup. And on a personal note it annoys me how moosy can take the time to post a bunch of filler candy crap, but not read the setup



Tictock
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On March 20 2018 11:32 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 11:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 20 2018 10:40 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:57 Vivax wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:09 ExO_ wrote:
Moosy I’m going to try my best to assess you fairly,
but damn you’re like a hyperactive kid in a Candy store.

But you come into the thread saying you need someone to explain the setup because you can’t be arsed to read it....after you /out earlier because of number of players.

Scum leaning on you for this reason.


I think this is an awful reason to scumread Moosy. ExO picked the first inconsistency he could find.

And what is it even?

Moosy scum lean cause he wanted setup explained but he /outed earlier because of the amount of players and if he does the first he can't do the latter??? I don't even see the connection between the two sentences.



My theory is if he’s /outing because of number of players he’s probably read the setup. And on a personal note it annoys me how moosy can take the time to post a bunch of filler candy crap, but not read the setup

##Vote: MoosyDoosy


Stop doing this moosy.

You've done it as town and as scum last game, also it is against the rules of the game. It literally means nothing and is a waste of space.


Mocsta
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 20 2018 08:05 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 08:00 Tictock wrote:
Please insert Alignment Indicative opening here.

Thanks.

FILTER STARTS HERE
+1
This made me laugh (almost out loud).

Moosey annoying me already.
20 people is already a lot of filter to have to go through, let alone this spam.

No further thoughts worth sharing.

Post 1 / 7



I would also sheep alakaslam, noobking.

Holyflare is also in my lynch pool I forgot about him

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On March 20 2018 17:09 Holyflare wrote:
I also think moosy is scummy because the only person to "call him out" was exo and apparently he felt enough pressure/angst to vote himself off of that. Don't know whether I should listen to mafia moosy's post last game on whether he's reformed and base things off that or not though.

Was initially a town read for being happy but now not.

also disformation is in my lynch pool

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On March 20 2018 09:42 disformation wrote:
just for the record: moosy asking bout the setup is fairly nai. totally in his town range.


On March 20 2018 16:38 disformation wrote:
oh and for the record moosy voting himself is totally nai too.


The reason why Tictock's post here:
On March 21 2018 10:29 Tictock wrote:
Almost caught up. Well still ~5 pages behind, but home now and got everything that was distracting me out of the way.

@ KSC
Right now I am fairly comfortable calling you, Rayn, Vivax, and HF town. Nothing great as to why, just level of effort, tone, and investedness from you guys makes it fairly likely you are all town. At the very least I think you are all off the table for lynch today.

I am also fairly convinced Moosy is scum. He is the read I mentioned awhile ago.

Basically Moosy's mood has done a complete 180 from his initial bit of spam, which was more in line with what I'd expect from a town!Moosy. As far as I can tell he forced his initial bit of spam to make some kind of effort, but really can't be bothered to play scum twice in a row.

His latest bouts of posts are more emo shit, and his scum list at the end of pg 28 is just OMGUS. I'd expect a town!Moosy to be happy and at least a bit trolly for having rolled Town this game, but I just see a disgruntled person reluctantly playing.

I didn't want to post this read earlier as there is clearly something going on with Moosy given his /out and somewhat reluctant re/in, but I'm betting it was just fear of rolling scum in this large of a game having just lost as scum.

is complete garbage is because I'm not making my pool out of OMGUS. It's just a pool of people that reacted to my bait. It's completely reasonable to go for me but that's what makes them Mafia going for low hanging fruit.

His read on my tone as "emo shit" is completely wrong because I prefer playing mafia to town. Also if I was mafia again this game I would exactly emulate my way of playing from last game so as to mess with people and pull the reformed card. But I hate using meta arguments tbh.

On March 21 2018 07:10 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 06:04 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Mafia is in:

ykl, ExO_, Tictock, Mocsta

ykl
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 20 2018 12:16 ykl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 12:01 Mocsta wrote:
On March 20 2018 11:32 ykl wrote:
Also, the whole reason Mocsta even called me out to begin with was that I thought Conversion's early call on n00bking was misguided.
Hi ykl,
Above is a gross simplification.

Refering to #232
TMI related to you expressing that: Ex0, Conversion, Moosey & n00bking are all "chasing down the wrong path".

This does not only infer they are all not scum. But that they are also all town - enough that further info is not needed.

Your explanation since does not address the Moosey/n00bking element either.

Post 10 / 14






Ah, that's pretty weird. Intention was only to say ExO- and Conversion are chasing down the wrong path, bad wording from my part. I wouldn't say that no further info is needed and they are all confirmed town, just that I don't read either of them as "scum" at the moment and that when I made the post, neither case was particularly well thought out?

I really don't have much to say about Moosy or n00bking. Moosy has been trying to off himself, which screams someone that really doesn't want to play the game or is frustrated about something, could swing either way to be honest? I don't think what he's doing is helpful at the moment but its ignorable.

n00bking, I really got more interested in the last post he made. Completely ignored the scumread from Conversion and does not seem to want to interact with him at all, instead makes a quick side track to challenge Ticktock instead.


ExO_
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 20 2018 08:09 ExO_ wrote:
Moosy I’m going to try my best to assess you fairly,
but damn you’re like a hyperactive kid in a Candy store.

But you come into the thread saying you need someone to explain the setup because you can’t be arsed to read it....after you /out earlier because of number of players.

Scum leaning on you for this reason.


On March 20 2018 10:40 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 08:57 Vivax wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:09 ExO_ wrote:
Moosy I’m going to try my best to assess you fairly,
but damn you’re like a hyperactive kid in a Candy store.

But you come into the thread saying you need someone to explain the setup because you can’t be arsed to read it....after you /out earlier because of number of players.

Scum leaning on you for this reason.


I think this is an awful reason to scumread Moosy. ExO picked the first inconsistency he could find.

And what is it even?

Moosy scum lean cause he wanted setup explained but he /outed earlier because of the amount of players and if he does the first he can't do the latter??? I don't even see the connection between the two sentences.



My theory is if he’s /outing because of number of players he’s probably read the setup. And on a personal note it annoys me how moosy can take the time to post a bunch of filler candy crap, but not read the setup



Tictock
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 20 2018 11:32 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 11:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 20 2018 10:40 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:57 Vivax wrote:
On March 20 2018 08:09 ExO_ wrote:
Moosy I’m going to try my best to assess you fairly,
but damn you’re like a hyperactive kid in a Candy store.

But you come into the thread saying you need someone to explain the setup because you can’t be arsed to read it....after you /out earlier because of number of players.

Scum leaning on you for this reason.


I think this is an awful reason to scumread Moosy. ExO picked the first inconsistency he could find.

And what is it even?

Moosy scum lean cause he wanted setup explained but he /outed earlier because of the amount of players and if he does the first he can't do the latter??? I don't even see the connection between the two sentences.



My theory is if he’s /outing because of number of players he’s probably read the setup. And on a personal note it annoys me how moosy can take the time to post a bunch of filler candy crap, but not read the setup

##Vote: MoosyDoosy


Stop doing this moosy.

You've done it as town and as scum last game, also it is against the rules of the game. It literally means nothing and is a waste of space.


Mocsta
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 20 2018 08:05 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 08:00 Tictock wrote:
Please insert Alignment Indicative opening here.

Thanks.

FILTER STARTS HERE
+1
This made me laugh (almost out loud).

Moosey annoying me already.
20 people is already a lot of filter to have to go through, let alone this spam.

No further thoughts worth sharing.

Post 1 / 7



I would also sheep alakaslam, noobking.
Can you please confirm if this is real content or trolling?

Like dude... I thought you said you were a reformed person.
I don't know you, haven't played with you; however, everything this game is indicating otherwise.

If its real content, fine. Im happy to talk about it - e.g. why is there a focus on the initial content of players? How does this meld with the later stages of content... How does me + ykl work as a team? How does ExO + tictock work as a team?

If trolling as town, all you are doing with this is creating more attention to you; and distracting others from lynch scum.

Which is it?

This post from you is as equally wrong because I'm not forming a scum team or doing any deep analysis. I'm doing my job which is to be bait.

Anyway, I'm pretty set for D1 atm, having my lynch pool. I'm just going to play like Fecalfeast now and sheep people within my lynch pool.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 21 2018 01:51 GMT
#670
On March 21 2018 10:47 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 07:46 Mocsta wrote:

tictock is in null pile as I was surprised by the content since waking. Maybe im selfish, but I was quite surprised he didnt ask me anything.


?

I don't give a shit you temp scum read me (for pretty meh reasons), and I'm leaning town on you atm.

Got bigger fish bro.

I am surprised you agree with the notion of leaving Moosy off the lynch block today though. Not that he is my top scum read or dying to lynch him myself, but I do think he has a pretty good chance of being mafia at this point.

Idk, just weird to see multiple people take this "ignore Moosy" stance.
I cant speak for others, but my opinion is 2-fold.

(1) Most trolling mafia dont have the balls to keep it up for an entire cycle. At some point there is a need to survive.
I dont know Moosy well enough to understand if this tell applies, but, i can give benefit of the doubt for 1 cycle.

(2) I am expecting between 4 and 5 mafia. Even if Moosy was mafia, i think there is enough content this Day1 to have a successful lynch outside moosy.

(1) + (2) leads to dont vote moosy this cycle - but still try to grab info.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 21 2018 01:53 GMT
#671
Now if I WERE to employ OMGUS instead of my bait strategy it would be this:

##Unvote
##Vote: Mocsta
##Unvote
##Vote: Tictock
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 21 2018 02:00 GMT
#672
#669
Hi Moosy

I like that post, and while plan is "different". Its certainly not what I would consider scummy.

I think you can refine the concept better by applying a stricter filter when determining "mafia trying to get you."
Of the 6 in your pool; the only TWO who said you were scummy is ExO_ and HF.
Annoying or frustrated does not equate to scum.

As townies, we only have our vote, so I will respect this plans of yours.
However, I would appreciate if you could respect me back and share your (updated) opinion of n00bking.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 21 2018 02:03 GMT
#673
On March 21 2018 11:00 Mocsta wrote:
#669
Hi Moosy

I like that post, and while plan is "different". Its certainly not what I would consider scummy.

I think you can refine the concept better by applying a stricter filter when determining "mafia trying to get you."
Of the 6 in your pool; the only TWO who said you were scummy is ExO_ and HF.
Annoying or frustrated does not equate to scum.

As townies, we only have our vote, so I will respect this plans of yours.
However, I would appreciate if you could respect me back and share your (updated) opinion of n00bking.

Sure. I'll even throw in an explanation for Alakaslam.

Noobking/Slam didn't respond to my bait at the start. The reason why they're there is from tone reads.

Slam's tone reads forced to me and completely different from the last game I played with him. A lot of people already picked up on this.

Noobking goes from setup to picking at what other people are saying which is exactly what he did when I was scum with him last game. The only way I see him being town is because he hasn't really used excessive OMGUS arguments so far. So I would be fine with sheeping a wagon on him.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 21 2018 02:03 GMT
#674
On March 21 2018 08:57 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 05:10 rsoultin wrote:
Also idk his first post asking how many mafia there are really rubs me the wrong way. What strategic desicions could knowing that help inform on D1/D2?

Here's a strategic decision that would be informed on D2 by knowing how many mafia the game started with: WHO TO LYNCH. If you know how many members of the mafia there are, you know how many kills they can execute. Then you can see if any are "missing." If you don't know how many to expect, then a healer doesn't know whether to have added trust toward the target he healed. A roleblocker or jailkeeper doesn't know whether to have added suspicion toward their own target. Circumstantial evidence yielded by the night results will very often outweigh whatever inclinations players previously had, about who "seemed" town and who "seemed" scummy. Instead of the pure guessing game of Day 1, you have hard data to work with...IF you know how many mafia members there are. So it's CRITICAL information. Unfortunately, the OP doesn't even give us a RANGE of possible answers. There's literally nothing keeping this from being an 11/9 setup at this point. Or 19/1.


Reasonable assumption that there are more than 3 mafia but less than 6(ok maybe 6 if town has quite a few PRs), why would you throw out the ridiculous #'s you did at the end of your post?

I agree with HF, this shit you keep posting just feels like arguing for the sake of arguing. Nothing I have seen from you looks like actual scum hunting, or at least all your arguing seems to have given you no leads as you seem content to have sheeped koshi 4 hours into the game.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 21 2018 02:08 GMT
#675
On March 21 2018 09:17 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 07:59 Mocsta wrote:
On March 21 2018 07:54 n00bKing wrote:
On March 20 2018 19:51 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 20 2018 19:36 Palmar wrote:
df's roleplaying is some of the worst I've ever seen.

yeh it's not good. I don't know what it means alignment wise. I feel that if you're town you just have fun as town whereas if you rolled mafia the second time in 3 games and you wanted to make things fun fun yourself/hide you would make a persona. I can't say it makes him town or mafia but if I had to pick I would say it is more scum sided.

Don't really agree, personally. How does the persona help him hide, if how annoying it is becomes a topic of conversation? I also haven't known scum players to normally be bored enough that they have to do anything like inventing a persona, in order to keep themselves entertained. Drawing a scum role should never be boring, it's pulling a town role that's boring. (I believe someone already said early in this thread that they pulled a town role and it's boring.) I haven't seen many people invent a role like this for themselves, but when they have, they've been town (and then they've been asked to cut it out, much like what's been happening to darthfoley here.) So while we mostly agree that it doesn't point too strongly in either direction, if *I* had to pick I would say it is more of a town indicator.
This monologue is pointless - as both of you are debating YOUR values on how to play the game. Not what Darthfoley is actually doing with the roleplay.

What is that even supposed to mean? He's not doing anything with the roleplay. Roleplay doesn't DO anything. The discussion is of whether the use of roleplay is scum-indicative or town-indicative. Kelsier thought scum would be more likely to "hide" by making a persona. I asked how the persona is supposed to help him hide, when I think the opposite is actually true, and that it draws attention. And when I say that it's something I've seen from Town but not from Scum, that has nothing to do with my "values on how to play the game." It's just real-world, lived experience.


Lol, you literally answered your own question, ya know?

Scum: I'm gunna do weird shit, kus only town does weird shit!

Noobking: Wow, look at that townie, doing weird shit...

Scum: Success!
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 21 2018 02:12 GMT
#676
On March 21 2018 09:47 n00bKing wrote:
I'm the last person who needs the rules and roles quoted to me. As shown in the order of operations, the mafia roleblock would be enforced before a vigilante shot. And there is exactly no reason for you to assume they do not have a roleblocker. Or a jailkeeper.

So let's all just hope you're not a town vigilante. Because if you are, you've done a very stupid thing.


I will agree with NK here.

From OP
- The following roles can be used and can be of any alignment: Veteran, Roleblocker, Doctor, Jailkeeper, Role Cop, Vanilla Cop, Tracker, Watcher, Vigilante, Vanilla.


However, I think we are overlooking something important here.

Mocsta just dumb-telled himself town!
I can take that responsibility.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 21 2018 02:18 GMT
#677
tictock #676
its not really something important. No one accused me of not being town.

moose #673
im confused (in a pleasant way i suppose).
I thought you were saying prior that slam/n00b are town (or you will at least mirror their vote).
what you wrote indicates suspicion against both players (in particular compared to last game).

So is it fair to comment that you lynch pool is {ykl, mocsta, exo, disfo, HF, tictock} and now {slam, n00b}??
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 21 2018 02:18 GMT
#678
On March 21 2018 10:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 09:53 Conversion wrote:
funny you mention skill because if you’re town you’re the one getting scum read, not me

but you’re scum and it’s really cute that you try to quantify skill at a forum mafia game as literally no one thinks you’re good LOL

I just wanted to point out I really hate this type of post from people.


Who cares Moosy, you never listen when other people tell you they hate what you do.
On March 21 2018 05:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 11:32 Tictock wrote:
On March 20 2018 11:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:

##Vote: MoosyDoosy


Stop doing this moosy.

You've done it as town and as scum last game, also it is against the rules of the game. It literally means nothing and is a waste of space.

##Vote:MoosyDoosy

I can take that responsibility.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 21 2018 02:21 GMT
#679
On March 21 2018 10:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
why is mocsta saying mafia can't have roleblocker?

It says roleblocker in the role pms list
it says roleblocker in my role pm
FTFY
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 21 2018 02:22 GMT
#680
i meant to say mafia role pm
sigh
fail.
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