EPTMoosy should be shot
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Palmar
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Holyflare
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rsoultin
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On March 21 2018 07:22 Mocsta wrote: Is it really? Seems half-arsed to me now that I have seen the HF addition. I didnt realise prior that all scum read quotes have moosy being annoying or scummy in common. With that deduction, moosy has dropped town points for me.. just like DF went serious for a couple posts to convey something. I really think moosy should have stopped trolling for at least a handful of posts as well. It's how he used to scumhunt -shrugs- I just read six of his old games while deciding to lynch him last game. And yes, HF is right. There's not much sense in lynching him for something retarded that he also does more as town. | ||
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Conversion
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His entrance on how many mafia => strategy changing was a horrible post. How is that NAI? Why would a town anyone care about how many mafia there are? Vivax's "bait" was not a townie post to me either, and I don't really feel like casing his posts as they're rather short to consume and read. I'm going to filter dive other people when I get home. Sticking to my n00b vote. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22634 Posts
On March 21 2018 07:31 Holyflare wrote: Thanks captain obvious. Explain to me why the two people voting ksc are mafia | ||
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Palmar
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
So when I spoke to Moosy about trolling etc that was without knowledge of you on p28. Now that I have caught up: I like the mindmeld. Not specifically the action, but rather, the tone. Welcome to my hard town circle. Palmar, im the vig btw. Dont care to say it because mafia dont have a RB. | ||
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Mocsta
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(1) I have an important dinner tonight so wont be able to critically read anything (2) Where I work has been thrown in an unplanned shutdown.. I really dont know if I can commit the time to apply critical thought. I still think Day1 comes down to resolutions on the big topics: Slam Moosy Ex0/KSC, Koshi/Disfo/n00bking, DF Rest is probably side distractions. My current (albeit loose) thoughts are: Above null pile (Ex0_, rsoultin, vivax, rayn, Kelsier, ykl, disinfo, Palmar Null pile (HF, Conversion, Slam, darthfoley, Rels, tictock, sicklucker, koshi, moosy) Below null pile (n00bking) Of the above null, I feel least strong about disinfo as its based on a heuristic that is gut feel only. Conversion is in null pile as I havent focused on anything he has said. Slam I would still need to meta-dive. DF I actually like, but I give pause since so many others have issue. I wouldnt lynch today, and would prefer not to use a bullet on. tictock is in null pile as I was surprised by the content since waking. Maybe im selfish, but I was quite surprised he didnt ask me anything. moosy i agree is not on the table Day1. Could be easy mislynch; so focus on other scum team. Apologies to leave it like this. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
On March 21 2018 07:39 Conversion wrote: nope they did not.did rels or sicklurker even post? must have been a quick filter dive yeah it was. basically dived rels, sicklucker, Darthfoley, rayn and moosy. Only content in darthfoley and moosy  | ||
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On March 20 2018 19:51 KelsierSC wrote: yeh it's not good. I don't know what it means alignment wise. I feel that if you're town you just have fun as town whereas if you rolled mafia the second time in 3 games and you wanted to make things fun fun yourself/hide you would make a persona. I can't say it makes him town or mafia but if I had to pick I would say it is more scum sided. Don't really agree, personally. How does the persona help him hide, if how annoying it is becomes a topic of conversation? I also haven't known scum players to normally be bored enough that they have to do anything like inventing a persona, in order to keep themselves entertained. Drawing a scum role should never be boring, it's pulling a town role that's boring. (I believe someone already said early in this thread that they pulled a town role and it's boring.) I haven't seen many people invent a role like this for themselves, but when they have, they've been town (and then they've been asked to cut it out, much like what's been happening to darthfoley here.) So while we mostly agree that it doesn't point too strongly in either direction, if *I* had to pick I would say it is more of a town indicator. | ||
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On March 21 2018 07:37 Mocsta wrote: Palmar, im the vig btw. Dont care to say it because mafia dont have a RB. lolwut | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
Rsoul feels off to me this game as well, but I’m not sure so can quite put my finger on it. She is spending a lot of energy on Slam and comparing his play between this game and last. I find this to be an iffy meta read as Slam replaced in last game so there is bound to be large differences in his play. I am also leaning more Town on Slam myself, so part of this might just be that I disagree. I don’t think Disinfo deserves the votes he is getting, so far his posts seem to be in his town range. I really haven’t seen anything from him that seems scummy. Though I would like to see him a bit more involved. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9389 Posts
On March 21 2018 07:54 n00bKing wrote: This monologue is pointless - as both of you are debating YOUR values on how to play the game. Not what Darthfoley is actually doing with the roleplay.Don't really agree, personally. How does the persona help him hide, if how annoying it is becomes a topic of conversation? I also haven't known scum players to normally be bored enough that they have to do anything like inventing a persona, in order to keep themselves entertained. Drawing a scum role should never be boring, it's pulling a town role that's boring. (I believe someone already said early in this thread that they pulled a town role and it's boring.) I haven't seen many people invent a role like this for themselves, but when they have, they've been town (and then they've been asked to cut it out, much like what's been happening to darthfoley here.) So while we mostly agree that it doesn't point too strongly in either direction, if *I* had to pick I would say it is more of a town indicator. I would rather see that either of you furnish quotes that express town or scum motivation, then additional comments on the above. | ||
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On March 20 2018 20:05 Holyflare wrote: Last game where noobking was mafia he just focused on "scum reading" me in an attempt to shit up the thread and cause confusion instead of calling people town or mafia and giving reasons False. I called someone mafia (you) and gave reasons. I didn't try to shit up the thread OR cause confusion, I only tried to help Moosy escape the Noose by trying to put someone else into it. Like, EVERY word of what you're saying is wrong. On March 20 2018 20:05 Holyflare wrote: His play style as mafia (from a one game meta) was to ONLY point out logical fallacies and never actually scum hunt or see why people would make those mistakes. Pointing out logical fallacies and inconsistencies IS scumhunting. Scum have difficulty keeping their logic consistent because their needs change. Scum employ logical fallacies to push agendas that aren't actually logical. The only reason I pursued these things as scum is because it matches proper town play. Every time you encounter one of my arguments that you don't like (and/or cannot refute) you try to hand-wave it away as "semantics." I gave clear and precise reasoning for why what Exo did was town-indicative. You don't have to agree, but you sure can't win the point by just running away and crying "semantics!" Your style of argumentation would be useless even to a middle school debate team. IF you're Town in this game, just stay out of my way, and wait for me to drag your dead weight across the finish line. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
On March 21 2018 07:09 MoosyDoosy wrote: Holyflare is also in my lynch pool I forgot about him + Show Spoiler + On March 20 2018 17:09 Holyflare wrote: I also think moosy is scummy because the only person to "call him out" was exo and apparently he felt enough pressure/angst to vote himself off of that. Don't know whether I should listen to mafia moosy's post last game on whether he's reformed and base things off that or not though. Was initially a town read for being happy but now not. also disformation is in my lynch pool + Show Spoiler + On March 20 2018 09:42 disformation wrote: just for the record: moosy asking bout the setup is fairly nai. totally in his town range. On March 20 2018 16:38 disformation wrote: oh and for the record moosy voting himself is totally nai too. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
On March 21 2018 07:22 Mocsta wrote: Is it really? Seems half-arsed to me now that I have seen the HF addition. I didnt realise prior that all scum read quotes have moosy being annoying or scummy in common. With that deduction, moosy has dropped town points for me.. just like DF went serious for a couple posts to convey something. I really think moosy should have stopped trolling for at least a handful of posts as well. lol | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
##Unvote ##Vote: ExO_ Again, I'm down to sheep wagons on ykl, Tictock, Mocsta, Holyflare, disfo (meh), noobking, and Slam atm. | ||
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