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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 24 2018 22:14 GMT
#2541
On March 25 2018 07:07 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2018 07:03 n00bKing wrote:
On March 25 2018 06:54 rsoultin wrote:
Also am fully aware people can do more than one thing at a time.

The problem with your vote is
1) it seemed to come out of nowhere
2) your explanation for it came well after the fact
3) it was on your only counterwagon while you only seemed interested in discussing other things

#1 - Good. The more it looked that way, the better.
#2 - Good. Already explained.
#3 - FALSE. There could be no such thing as a "counterwagon" to me at the time I placed the vote. I had zero votes cast against me, and had no reason to suspect I might BE a wagon on Day 2.
On March 25 2018 06:54 rsoultin wrote:
why is there some great need for secrecy regarding your opinion on [Moosy's] alignment?

Because I don't suffer from the same "diarrhea of the mouth" problem as so many other players here. I don't make the mistake of throwing around information about which surviving players I have "slightly above null" vs. which ones are "townleans" vs. which ones are hard "townreads." I'm not interested in lynching him on Day 2. 'nuff said.


I'm gonna be frank with you. The last player who made this assertion was scum by a mile. And the scum motivation for keeping reads close to the chest, especially during the day phase, is also blindingly obvious. If you've stated this mindset of yours before, I suggest you link the game/post to me, because I've got less than an hour to poke into that and I can't guarantee I'd find it.

Also, fair regarding the vote @.@ I'm a numbnuts.



I'm having the worst time keeping timings right in my head. Yeah, the whole thing around the tt vote is significantly less scummy, especially considering you came in with your reason also before the votes started piling up by the timestamps.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
March 24 2018 22:15 GMT
#2542
On March 25 2018 07:07 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2018 07:03 n00bKing wrote:
On March 25 2018 06:54 rsoultin wrote:
Also am fully aware people can do more than one thing at a time.

The problem with your vote is
1) it seemed to come out of nowhere
2) your explanation for it came well after the fact
3) it was on your only counterwagon while you only seemed interested in discussing other things

#1 - Good. The more it looked that way, the better.
#2 - Good. Already explained.
#3 - FALSE. There could be no such thing as a "counterwagon" to me at the time I placed the vote. I had zero votes cast against me, and had no reason to suspect I might BE a wagon on Day 2.
On March 25 2018 06:54 rsoultin wrote:
why is there some great need for secrecy regarding your opinion on [Moosy's] alignment?

Because I don't suffer from the same "diarrhea of the mouth" problem as so many other players here. I don't make the mistake of throwing around information about which surviving players I have "slightly above null" vs. which ones are "townleans" vs. which ones are hard "townreads." I'm not interested in lynching him on Day 2. 'nuff said.


I'm gonna be frank with you. The last player who made this assertion was scum by a mile. And the scum motivation for keeping reads close to the chest, especially during the day phase, is also blindingly obvious. If you've stated this mindset of yours before, I suggest you link the game/post to me, because I've got less than an hour to poke into that and I can't guarantee I'd find it.

Also, fair regarding the vote @.@ I'm a numbnuts

Maybe this will help.

On March 21 2018 13:44 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 13:30 Alakaslam wrote:
List post more often scum than not though. Careful calling them good m8

Yeah. I don't think I've ever made a "most trusted to least trusted" list, as Town. Only as scum, and only when I was really motivated to get other players to follow suit. And if I'm Town, I am probably never going to ask you who you've got firmly stuck in your "townpile." I don't need to know who your strongest townreads are, just who your scumreads are. And you don't need to know about my strongest townreads either.

But if I'm scum? Yeah, THEN I want to know who is in your townpile. THEN I want to know who EVERYone has in their townpile. If I'm scum, I'd like to see a list post from everybody. I might even want to see that badly enough to post one myself.

Unfortunately, on THIS site, those types of list posts are a mistake made SO frequently by town players, that you can't really scumread anyone for doing it.

rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 24 2018 22:16 GMT
#2543
Meh, and it's 45 minutes before deadline and this thread is deeeeeaaad as dead can be. I still want a link to the game/post where you've shown this mindset before, NK. Actually, the game. Multiple games would be even better.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 24 2018 22:17 GMT
#2544
On March 25 2018 07:15 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2018 07:07 rsoultin wrote:
On March 25 2018 07:03 n00bKing wrote:
On March 25 2018 06:54 rsoultin wrote:
Also am fully aware people can do more than one thing at a time.

The problem with your vote is
1) it seemed to come out of nowhere
2) your explanation for it came well after the fact
3) it was on your only counterwagon while you only seemed interested in discussing other things

#1 - Good. The more it looked that way, the better.
#2 - Good. Already explained.
#3 - FALSE. There could be no such thing as a "counterwagon" to me at the time I placed the vote. I had zero votes cast against me, and had no reason to suspect I might BE a wagon on Day 2.
On March 25 2018 06:54 rsoultin wrote:
why is there some great need for secrecy regarding your opinion on [Moosy's] alignment?

Because I don't suffer from the same "diarrhea of the mouth" problem as so many other players here. I don't make the mistake of throwing around information about which surviving players I have "slightly above null" vs. which ones are "townleans" vs. which ones are hard "townreads." I'm not interested in lynching him on Day 2. 'nuff said.


I'm gonna be frank with you. The last player who made this assertion was scum by a mile. And the scum motivation for keeping reads close to the chest, especially during the day phase, is also blindingly obvious. If you've stated this mindset of yours before, I suggest you link the game/post to me, because I've got less than an hour to poke into that and I can't guarantee I'd find it.

Also, fair regarding the vote @.@ I'm a numbnuts

Maybe this will help.

Show nested quote +
On March 21 2018 13:44 n00bKing wrote:
On March 21 2018 13:30 Alakaslam wrote:
List post more often scum than not though. Careful calling them good m8

Yeah. I don't think I've ever made a "most trusted to least trusted" list, as Town. Only as scum, and only when I was really motivated to get other players to follow suit. And if I'm Town, I am probably never going to ask you who you've got firmly stuck in your "townpile." I don't need to know who your strongest townreads are, just who your scumreads are. And you don't need to know about my strongest townreads either.

But if I'm scum? Yeah, THEN I want to know who is in your townpile. THEN I want to know who EVERYone has in their townpile. If I'm scum, I'd like to see a list post from everybody. I might even want to see that badly enough to post one myself.

Unfortunately, on THIS site, those types of list posts are a mistake made SO frequently by town players, that you can't really scumread anyone for doing it.



I've seen this before. I think from this game? That's not helpful. And if it's from last game it's also not.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
March 24 2018 22:20 GMT
#2545
On May 02 2016 19:31 Palmar wrote:
If a person claims blue to save himself ALWAYS, ALWAYS lynch him. It is always the right play.

I don't really agree. It depends on other factors too.

Oh, and on that note, I'm a blue role.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 24 2018 22:20 GMT
#2546
which one
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 24 2018 22:20 GMT
#2547
The thing about Palmar is I sincerely hope he's town. I'll probably explain why later. And I posthumously don't disagree with rayn's post on him.

I'm not sure that I'm super happy with an FF vote but that may be the only reasonable place to go, because I'm not feeling TT as scum and feel that FF has a better chance to flip that way. Just don't trust my ability to read him at all.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 24 2018 22:21 GMT
#2548
Oh ya i didn't do ticktock
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 24 2018 22:22 GMT
#2549
On March 25 2018 07:20 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2016 19:31 Palmar wrote:
If a person claims blue to save himself ALWAYS, ALWAYS lynch him. It is always the right play.

I don't really agree. It depends on other factors too.

Oh, and on that note, I'm a blue role.


@.@

this claim
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
March 24 2018 22:23 GMT
#2550
On March 25 2018 07:20 Fecalfeast wrote:
which one

I'm the Nunya.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
March 24 2018 22:23 GMT
#2551
On March 25 2018 07:20 rsoultin wrote:
The thing about Palmar is I sincerely hope he's town. I'll probably explain why later. And I posthumously don't disagree with rayn's post on him.

I'm not sure that I'm super happy with an FF vote but that may be the only reasonable place to go, because I'm not feeling TT as scum and feel that FF has a better chance to flip that way. Just don't trust my ability to read him at all.

Alright, fair enough.

##Unvote

##Vote: FecalFeast

rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 24 2018 22:24 GMT
#2552
Pft >< now I'm seriously considering lynching you again. Why wait this long?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
March 24 2018 22:27 GMT
#2553
On March 25 2018 07:24 rsoultin wrote:
Why wait this long?

shrug? I've claimed less than 10 minutes before deadline before.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 24 2018 22:28 GMT
#2554
On March 25 2018 07:04 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2018 06:58 Mocsta wrote:
Tina

Did nk ever get back to u on ?slam?

Thete was sometjing he suggssted you remind him of?


??

If you're referring to the question that I asked slam regarding NK, NK said he had points that he'd bring up after Slam answered. Slam hasn't.

Or are you referring to something else?

Also, please see my question for you regarding your association dichotomies. Were those based primarily on the Rels wagon?

Yes yhat was the nk thing

Please point me to post id
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 24 2018 22:30 GMT
#2555
On March 25 2018 07:27 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2018 07:24 rsoultin wrote:
Why wait this long?

shrug? I've claimed less than 10 minutes before deadline before.

-facedesks-

And you've been the biggest wagon the majority of the phase? I don't know that people will even come back to notice your claim, for one. Secondly, it will be a scramble for all of the lazies.

And third, I'm inclined to lynch you anyway if you don't make a hard claim, including night actions. Which may not matter if no one comes back as it is \o/
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 22:32 GMT
#2556
On March 25 2018 05:14 Fecalfeast wrote:
We'll see. I just refilled my coffee and my SO is leaving for the rest of the day so the conditions are perfect


Funny this happened right before my post about FF giving some content
I can take that responsibility.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 24 2018 22:32 GMT
#2557
On March 24 2018 17:21 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 16:39 Alakaslam wrote:
Dammit.

I recognize the only reason I am so peeved by your arrogance is because of the extent of my own.

But man you can’t get anywhere in this game humbly. I recognize that now.

But there comes that point where you are being blinded by it, that’s just more than I like to see, idk.


-pokes- you seem to have a pretty good handle on noob. I'm not clear on your posts...do you think he's scum this game? It seems like maybe you don't.

You were talking about how they played on the other site and scum basically playing chicken shit. What bugs me most about noob is his focus on afkers to the exclusion of everything but his counterwagon this phase. Am I wrong to be bugged by that? I.e. is that just how he's been taught to scumhunt on the other site because scum there are chicken shit?


You do realize that you made me filter dive myself, which you could have easily done, for something that I see no relevance in whatsoever?

If this is important, out with it. Otherwise help.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 24 2018 22:33 GMT
#2558
On March 25 2018 07:23 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2018 07:20 Fecalfeast wrote:
which one

I'm the Nunya.
whats a nunya?

n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
March 24 2018 22:34 GMT
#2559
On March 25 2018 07:33 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2018 07:23 n00bKing wrote:
On March 25 2018 07:20 Fecalfeast wrote:
which one

I'm the Nunya.
whats a nunya?

My role PM:
+ Show Spoiler +
You are the town Nunya Bizness.

Don't tell other players your role.

rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 24 2018 22:36 GMT
#2560
On March 25 2018 07:32 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 17:21 rsoultin wrote:
On March 24 2018 16:39 Alakaslam wrote:
Dammit.

I recognize the only reason I am so peeved by your arrogance is because of the extent of my own.

But man you can’t get anywhere in this game humbly. I recognize that now.

But there comes that point where you are being blinded by it, that’s just more than I like to see, idk.


-pokes- you seem to have a pretty good handle on noob. I'm not clear on your posts...do you think he's scum this game? It seems like maybe you don't.

You were talking about how they played on the other site and scum basically playing chicken shit. What bugs me most about noob is his focus on afkers to the exclusion of everything but his counterwagon this phase. Am I wrong to be bugged by that? I.e. is that just how he's been taught to scumhunt on the other site because scum there are chicken shit?


You do realize that you made me filter dive myself, which you could have easily done, for something that I see no relevance in whatsoever?

If this is important, out with it. Otherwise help.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/532111-classic-mafia?page=120#2395
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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