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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 22:37 GMT
#2561
On March 25 2018 06:30 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2018 05:53 Tictock wrote:
Still feel ok lynching noob, though he finally put out some real content that felt ok, I really hated that post about me. And this palmar push feels more like he knows he needs to change gears and just has his sights on Palmar now than a real read.

If that doesn't feel like a real read, then I guess you haven't ever seen one.


Probably not from you, nope.

I have however been confirmed Town in at least one game with good reads. So I am familiar with them.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 22:38 GMT
#2562
On March 25 2018 06:51 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2018 04:12 rsoultin wrote:
Noob still hasn't answered my questions -_-

I feel like there was really only one. It more or less amounted to "what did you discern from the night actions?" Unfortunately, we've had very little information about what the night actions actually were, and the analysis is made more difficult by not knowing how many mafia there are. (Again, that sure would be handy to know!)
I haven't had time to complete that analysis, as it takes actual effort. Skimming someone's meta is something I can do while doing something at the same time that isn't game-related. Responding to a bunch of posts in the thread is something that takes almost no time, because I am usually posting from a legit keyboard, and type over 90wpm. I can post comments on other posts almost as quickly as I generate thoughts about them. Analyzing what it means that Vivax and HF appear to have been the night-kill targets is a whole other kind of animal.
That said, from what I did get to of the comments from Vivax and HF on other players, other players' comments on Vivax and HF, and mixing in some inductive reasoning, I think HF and Vivax being the night-kills would help me feel better about Exo, mocsta, and Kelsier being town. And to a lesser extent, also Tictock. (So my vote on him was only about the fact that he's had bad posts throughout every stage of the game. I voted for him despite the night results, and not because of them.)
Meanwhile, HF and Vivax being the night-kills would make me more suspicious of Palmar, and you. And to a lesser extent, also Koshi and FecalFeast.
Not knowing how many mafia there are is a problem again here also, because the fewer of them there are, the more weight you can put on what each one's "desirable kills" would be, based on their play. But I think another factor is that if there is an overbearing personality on the scum team (like a Palmar, for example) then I could see it not mattering what the "desirable kills" would be for potential teammates like ykl or FecalFeast. Palmar might just browbeat them into whatever Night Actions he wanted anyway.
Palmar's meta looks slightly scum-indicative to me. His posts in this game (independent of the nightkills or his meta) already felt slightly scummy to me. The fact that he so powerfully scumreads someone I know to be Town does not help anything. Do I find anything in his filter that makes Vivax and Holyflare undesirable Night-kills for him? I do not. Do I think it would make sense for him to eliminate those targets, as maybe being players who have played with him a lot and could potentially use his meta history against him? Yeah, I could possibly see that. So that's the player I would flip today, were it my choice.


Never reading this post.
I can take that responsibility.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 24 2018 22:38 GMT
#2563
On March 25 2018 07:34 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2018 07:33 Mocsta wrote:
On March 25 2018 07:23 n00bKing wrote:
On March 25 2018 07:20 Fecalfeast wrote:
which one

I'm the Nunya.
whats a nunya?

My role PM:
+ Show Spoiler +
You are the town Nunya Bizness.

Don't tell other players your role.


Whatva stiff joke

Scumslip...
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 24 2018 22:38 GMT
#2564
I'm not moving until you hard claim.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 24 2018 22:40 GMT
#2565
On March 25 2018 07:38 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2018 07:34 n00bKing wrote:
On March 25 2018 07:33 Mocsta wrote:
On March 25 2018 07:23 n00bKing wrote:
On March 25 2018 07:20 Fecalfeast wrote:
which one

I'm the Nunya.
whats a nunya?

My role PM:
+ Show Spoiler +
You are the town Nunya Bizness.

Don't tell other players your role.


Whatva stiff joke

Scumslip...


You're drunk again, aren't you?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 22:41 GMT
#2566
On March 25 2018 07:11 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2018 07:01 rsoultin wrote:
On March 25 2018 06:51 n00bKing wrote:
On March 25 2018 04:12 rsoultin wrote:
Noob still hasn't answered my questions -_-

I feel like there was really only one. It more or less amounted to "what did you discern from the night actions?" Unfortunately, we've had very little information about what the night actions actually were, and the analysis is made more difficult by not knowing how many mafia there are. (Again, that sure would be handy to know!)
I haven't had time to complete that analysis, as it takes actual effort. Skimming someone's meta is something I can do while doing something at the same time that isn't game-related. Responding to a bunch of posts in the thread is something that takes almost no time, because I am usually posting from a legit keyboard, and type over 90wpm. I can post comments on other posts almost as quickly as I generate thoughts about them. Analyzing what it means that Vivax and HF appear to have been the night-kill targets is a whole other kind of animal.
That said, from what I did get to of the comments from Vivax and HF on other players, other players' comments on Vivax and HF, and mixing in some inductive reasoning, I think HF and Vivax being the night-kills would help me feel better about Exo, mocsta, and Kelsier being town. And to a lesser extent, also Tictock. (So my vote on him was only about the fact that he's had bad posts throughout every stage of the game. I voted for him despite the night results, and not because of them.)
Meanwhile, HF and Vivax being the night-kills would make me more suspicious of Palmar, and you. And to a lesser extent, also Koshi and FecalFeast.
Not knowing how many mafia there are is a problem again here also, because the fewer of them there are, the more weight you can put on what each one's "desirable kills" would be, based on their play. But I think another factor is that if there is an overbearing personality on the scum team (like a Palmar, for example) then I could see it not mattering what the "desirable kills" would be for potential teammates like ykl or FecalFeast. Palmar might just browbeat them into whatever Night Actions he wanted anyway.
Palmar's meta looks slightly scum-indicative to me. His posts in this game (independent of the nightkills or his meta) already felt slightly scummy to me. The fact that he so powerfully scumreads someone I know to be Town does not help anything. Do I find anything in his filter that makes Vivax and Holyflare undesirable Night-kills for him? I do not. Do I think it would make sense for him to eliminate those targets, as maybe being players who have played with him a lot and could potentially use his meta history against him? Yeah, I could possibly see that. So that's the player I would flip today, were it my choice.

You are doing something really wonky here with your timing. First you 'don't have time to complete the analysis', then HF and Vivax 'make you feel better about TT', but you voted him 'despite' those results? How can you vote someone despite something that you hadn't looked into yet?

Sure, I could have worded that better. I have initial impressions of what the nightkills will mean about some other players. Gut-based, instinct stuff, before I check. Sixth sense told me the nightkills were going to look good for Tictock, I voted for him "despite" that. After the analysis I did confirmed what sixth sense told me, I kept my vote on him for a while longer "despite" that. (Again, which kills Tictock would like may not matter, if there were an overbearing personality on the team with him controlling decisions.) I completed enough of the analysis to draw other conclusions from the nightkills (as listed above), but did not complete the process entirely.


Wait, how did the NK’s look good for me?
I can take that responsibility.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 24 2018 22:41 GMT
#2567
##Unvote
##Vote: Noobking
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 24 2018 22:42 GMT
#2568
well noobking told me it'd be scummy if I waffled on lynching blues who claim to save themselves.

so I guess I gotta stay the course ^^

(this is a bullshit claim, any slow-play claim is always mafia, if he was actually town and was willing to use this to defend himself, he'd have both claimed long ago, and also not done this bullshit "i'll maybe tell you what blue I am teehee")
Computer says mafia
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 22:43 GMT
#2569
On March 25 2018 07:20 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2016 19:31 Palmar wrote:
If a person claims blue to save himself ALWAYS, ALWAYS lynch him. It is always the right play.

I don't really agree. It depends on other factors too.

Oh, and on that note, I'm a blue role.


Don’t buy this.

Probably just tunneled, but it’s so desperate.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 22:44 GMT
#2570
On March 25 2018 07:27 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2018 07:24 rsoultin wrote:
Why wait this long?

shrug? I've claimed less than 10 minutes before deadline before.


This is a dismissal not an answer.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 22:47 GMT
#2571
Stay the course everyone this here is mafia flipping time.

Then dude who prob should just obs for a bit flipping time.

Then it’s my weekend so don’t expect much from me! Yay!
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 22:49 GMT
#2572
Just gunna also say pre-emptively that NK wasywilling to swap to FF till the end or ever actually push him.

FF is almost certainly mafia if NK flips red.
I can take that responsibility.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
March 24 2018 22:49 GMT
#2573
On March 25 2018 07:47 Tictock wrote:
Then it’s my weekend so don’t expect much from me! Yay!

Never have, never will.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 22:50 GMT
#2574
Lol, that should be “wasn’t willing”
I can take that responsibility.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 24 2018 22:51 GMT
#2575
On March 25 2018 07:49 Tictock wrote:
Just gunna also say pre-emptively that NK wasywilling to swap to FF till the end or ever actually push him.

FF is almost certainly mafia if NK flips red.


Wouldn't shock me at all, especially with him leaving FF off his 'afkers we should consider killing' list
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 22:51 GMT
#2576
On March 25 2018 07:49 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2018 07:47 Tictock wrote:
Then it’s my weekend so don’t expect much from me! Yay!

Never have, never will.


Aww thanks buddy.

Glad you stay around here to help make TL mafia. A better place.
I can take that responsibility.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
March 24 2018 22:52 GMT
#2577
On March 25 2018 07:51 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2018 07:49 n00bKing wrote:
On March 25 2018 07:47 Tictock wrote:
Then it’s my weekend so don’t expect much from me! Yay!

Never have, never will.

Aww thanks buddy.

Glad you stay around here to help make TL mafia. A better place.

Not all things can be redeemed. Not even by Mafia Jesus.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 22:53 GMT
#2578
On March 25 2018 07:52 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2018 07:51 Tictock wrote:
On March 25 2018 07:49 n00bKing wrote:
On March 25 2018 07:47 Tictock wrote:
Then it’s my weekend so don’t expect much from me! Yay!

Never have, never will.

Aww thanks buddy.

Glad you stay around here to help make TL mafia. A better place.

Not all things can be redeemed. Not even by Mafia Jesus.


Baby seal accepted.
I can take that responsibility.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 24 2018 22:53 GMT
#2579
On March 25 2018 07:52 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2018 07:51 Tictock wrote:
On March 25 2018 07:49 n00bKing wrote:
On March 25 2018 07:47 Tictock wrote:
Then it’s my weekend so don’t expect much from me! Yay!

Never have, never will.

Aww thanks buddy.

Glad you stay around here to help make TL mafia. A better place.

Not all things can be redeemed. Not even by Mafia Jesus.

You call yourself King.

But what is a King to a God?
Computer says mafia
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 24 2018 22:54 GMT
#2580
On March 25 2018 07:53 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2018 07:52 n00bKing wrote:
On March 25 2018 07:51 Tictock wrote:
On March 25 2018 07:49 n00bKing wrote:
On March 25 2018 07:47 Tictock wrote:
Then it’s my weekend so don’t expect much from me! Yay!

Never have, never will.

Aww thanks buddy.

Glad you stay around here to help make TL mafia. A better place.

Not all things can be redeemed. Not even by Mafia Jesus.

You call yourself King.

But what is a King to a God?

Pwrhaps a propaganda device for the masses?
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